This Is Sure to Anger the Entire Boston Area

Boston has a glorious racial history when compared to just about any US city with a sizable black population. Bad points incluide a busing riot and a guy blaming sa murder in the 1980s on a black (which never happens elsewhere). Positives include the Underground Railroad, the first black US Army regiments, the first black hockey and basketball p-layers, and the Abolition movement that forced Lincoln to free the slaves. Boston has had a white riot to defend a black runaway slave who was being seized and forcibly shipped back to Virginia, which is fairly unique in US History. Any brother who snbobs Boston in favor of, say, Atl;anta- which we had to burn to the ground to get them to release their slaves- deserves his lower socioeconomic status.

To deny the racial tension and the very deep racial divide in Boston because of some events that occurred during Antebellum America and the Civil War is a straight-up white-washing of history, pardon the pun.You cannot be serious, Frenchy.Talk to the black people who’ve taken over South Boston from the Irish and ask them if they don’t feel like they’re still not discriminated against.You know what’s funny?  I was born on Long Island, but raised just about my whole life in metro Atlanta.  I consider myself as Southern as sweet tea and fried squash.  But you know where I’ve heard people utter the "n-word" most often?Either in the North, or from people who spent their whole lives in the north, particularly from Boston and New York.Another funny thing, when describing other ethnicities such as Puerto Ricans, etc, I’ve heard them create offensive slurs around the "n-word," much the same as people call Arabs "sand n—-ers."Plus, you’ve got your history entirely wrong, and are taking the actions of a very few amount of people to try and prove your ridiculous point.The facts of the matter are, neither the North nor the South particularly cared about black people.  While the abolition movement existed in the North, they did in no way believe blacks to be the equal of whites, nor did they believe that they deserved the same rights and privledges, or citizenship.  They believed that God was against slavery, that’s it.  They fully bought into the black inferiority myth just as much as those in the South did.Getting back to the Irish in South Boston.  In the late 1800’s during the thrust of the Industrial Revolution through WWII, the Irish and Italians in Boston didn’t get along.  They still don’t to a point.But there was and is always some things they can agree on, like as much as they hated and hate each other, they hate the black people more.As for the love of black basketball players that you offer as evidence… are you frakking serious?Why don’t you read Bill Russell’s biography sometime to find out things that happened to him.He moved into a white neighborhood in Boston, and his white neighbors broke into his house, destroyed all of his possessions, and then defecated on his bed because he had the audacity to live in a white neighborhood.In fact, you can think of a black athlete in Boston in the 50’s, 60’s, 70’s, and even 80’s as kind of a paid slave.Oh yeah, the white Bostonians loved them when they were on the court.  But move into the house next door?  Go to eat at the same restaurant?  No effing way!Why do you think Robert Parrish never spoke to the media?  He suffered his slings and arrows in silence and with dignity much like Jackie Robinson.You, Frenchy, are a complete and utter moron.  You have no clue, refuse to see the truth for what it is, and you’ve totally rewritten history to try and fit your deluded argument, which is actually what I’m most pi$$ed about, as a historian."You" needed to burn Atlanta to the ground to make us give up our slaves?Idiot, please!

A) People from Atlanta can’t use the N word… the 35% of the population there that is black (remember, the people you enslaved stuck around after) would kill you… rightfully so……..

B) The only South Boston being taken over by blacks is in Virginia…….

C) Christ, kid… where did you learn history??? Some southern school? The history of the period is one of New England abolition against Southern slave-ocracy. Look up William Garrison or Frederick Douglass before you pipe off next time…..

D) Maybe we Yankees invented and exclusively use terms like "Sand n word," but I’d bet safer if I put that one on the half of the coutnry that fought and bled to protect their state’s rights to hold another human being in slavery…..

E) Bill Russell (who was made the first black coach in the NBA) did have some problems in the 60s, but he did so at a time when a Georgian had to get up and sit in the back of the bus. Think he’d trade his "troubles" for the ones suffered at, say, Rosewood? My god, man… study this stuff….

F) Robert Parish was loved in Boston, and got an easy ride from our normally rabid media when he beat his wife or got caught getting drugs in the mail….

G) Atlanta, which was fighting to keep a third of their population in bondage, was destroyed by General Sherman, who- when we talk Civil War- is considered to be "us" by northerners………

H) Again, check your history, you Lost Cause apologist douche. Tell me where I’ver said something inaccurate.

I) You’re a historian????

Personally, I am not a big fan of the red sox but i think i need to stand up for them here. Baseball teams pick the best players they can to put on their roster in order to compete. If these players are white, great. If these players are black, or of another minority, then that’s great too. There shouldn’t be a certain percentage of each race on every team, that’s just ridiculous. Teams choose players because of their skill not their race. If the best players that the red sox have happen to be white, that doesn’t mean the team is racist or that the city of Boston is racist. Ken Rosenthal is obviously looking for attention because he is in no position to make such an accusation. Oh by the way, lets not forget about Big Papi…

Papi is actually a cleverly disguised Irishman.

god i hate the redsox but to call the organization racist is absurd? Couldnt the same be siad about the mets only we could say they’re not white enough? Hey heres an idea, i’m the owner of a baseball team, my job is to win and sell tickets, that probly would mean i would put the best players for the least amount of money overall out there playing, who cares if they’re white black or latin, as long as we’re winning and people are comming to the park isnt that the ultimate goal?  how do people like him get a job as a baseball columnist?

Your facts are a hodge-podge, mish-mash and a severe cliff-notes melting down of the many intricate reasons why the nation descended into Civil War in 1861.No, you don’t have your history right.  What you have are many common misconceptions.Once again, while slavery was an issue, it was by no means the only issue, and for you to paint the North as the black saviors who loved the poor slaves and wanted them to be able to have equality and rights and citizenship and all of these wonderful things is an outright fabrication.Once again, the vast majority of people in the North couldn’t give too s—ts about the slaves.The ones who did by no means thought that the slaves were the equals of whites, and the majority of them were against the slaves gaining citizenship.  They certainly didn’t see them as equals, and bought whole heartedly into the concept of white supremacy.  They believed slavery to be against God’s will, therefore slavery was evil.I know it’s difficult for someone such as yourself to be able to sift through nuances such as that, with your Boston’s not racist because of stuff that happened in the Civil War delusions, but you really, really have no frakking clue what you’re talking about.As for the South being a "slave-ocracy," this just adds to your ignorance.  The fact is, that the average Confederate Soldier fighting in the war didn’t own a single slave, let along many, and didn’t know anyone who did.  They had more in common with the simple yeoman farmers of the North than anyone else.What there was, on their behalf, was a belief that their state was their country.  Much like Lee’s refusal to take up arms against his "country" of Virginia, the vast majority of Confederate soldiers didn’t acknowledge the United States as their country.  They knew the home they lived in, in Georgia, the Carolinas, etc.In fact, this sentiment was a great detriment to the government of the CSA as a whole, as instead of pooling together their resources, as the US was able to do, each CSA state jealously held onto what they had.  This was a big problem with Texas, which most believe seceded with the idea of once again becoming their own Republic again and had no real loyalty to the CSA.   Armies were regional, and although there was a general command structure, the facts were, if a regiment from Georgia which joined Lee’s Army of Northern Virginia wanted to leave to go back home, they did so.Confederacies rarely work, as evidenced at the US’s first go around as a loose confederacy under the Articles of Confederation.Anyways… the point being, your history is bad.  It is overly simplified, and in some points, such as your assertions that blacks haven’t entered into Southie, that black athletes were uniformly treated well in Boston, that the North in the Antebellum period and the Civil War was some kind of haven for blacks, and that all of these people in the north loved blacks and believed blacks equal to them and whatever b.s. you’re shoveling, well, they’re either figments of your moron imagination, or you really don’t know any better.Facts are, you don’t know what you’re talking about.Oh, and nice mention of Rosewood.  You saw that movie, too?  Like you actually know any of the history that belongs there.Again, you point to what’s wrong in other places, which was never called into question, to try and get people from understanding what’s been festering in Boston for years and years and years.Interesting tactic, but I don’t buy it.  Facts are facts.  You pointing at bad behavior of someone else doesn’t excuse bad behavior by you, or in this case, Boston as a totally racist city, which it is.

I point to the North merely as the ones who freed the slaves, not as their lovers. I can basically quote Lincoln… "Just because I don’t want to enslave this woman doesn’t mean that I want to marry her."

I love the Southern dodge about State’s Rights. I agree with it, insofar as it means "right to keep slaves."

I’m not seeing how your statement about the south failing to properly utilize their resources leads to me being wrong about Garrisson and Douglass, but whatever keeps you typing….

As for the rest…

- Southie is still overwhelmingly Irish Catholic, and will be for some time. Even there, the blacks tend to be on the Dorchester side.

- Black athletes were treated poorly in Boston, but at least they were allowed to use the water fountain and stuff.

- The North actually was a haven for blacks during the slavery era. That’s why they ran this way, my friend… rather than, say, to Georgia.

- We were less of the "blacks are equals" than "blacks shouldn’t be kept as slaves."

- I never actually saw the movie Rosewood.. I read about it in history  books, just like you didn’t.

- Please, point out the errors in my facts I’ve listed. Deny Douglass, Garrisson, the 54th Massachusetts, the Underground Railroad, the basketball and hockey groundbreaking, etc…

- We may or may not be better, although  make some strong arguments. We definitely can’t be proven to be any worse, however. As a Georgian, you should be as ashamed of your ancestors as I am proud of mine.

I’m off to bed, so we can pick this up tomorrow. i suggest that you spend the time between then and now studying some history.

if you mean the over-simplified McDonald’s version of the events you’re clinging to, no, I think I’ll leave that to you.

I think we need more blacks in the NBA and NFL. Baseball takes too much time to learn. The 2 carat diamond earring market is starting to slump. And who is gonna make it rain now that Pacman is gone? Come on now, doesnt everyone want to see more people like Dwight Howard make $85 million for 5 years  and then refuse to recognize the national anthem. I mean, really, you know how many kilos of coke Travis Henry could line up for all that? And that what we all really need right now, right?

Wow looks like another HATE FILLED ANGRY SOUTHERNER pissed off at a person from the north. I was in the US Navy for 4 years and was stationed in the South. I never knew how bad Hate and Racism was until I lived in the South. Im an Irish Italian from Boston. I grew up and we would joke around and say the N word just to be cool, I know this is ignorant and not very cool, but when push comes to shove we do not hate blacks, we have no reason to. The South really does HATE! They got there asses kicked big time. They not only Hate Blacks, but hate whites from the north as well. This is most likely due to there asses being kicked and there having to lick our boots after the war was won! I saw the anger and hate that brimmed from the southerners I was stationed with. They were so sneaky about it. Always talking behind there backs. They took for granted that because I was white I also hated blacks. I could only take so much of there bullshit and finally stood up and began hanging out with the blacks. The white northerners had no problem that, but the southerners wouldnt even talk to me. Anyways it fun watching Le, etat, c,est, moi punishing you expert 40. What a laff, once again the North kicks the Souths ass. Some things never change.

I could come out here and lay down some stereotypes and racial epithets but all I’ve decided on is: look, the Red Sox are winners.  They proved it with two World Series victories.  They sign the people who help them WIN.  If they all happen to white, well then, what’s the big deal?

Ask Ken Rosenthal. He spewed the ugly comments. Obviously he needs some attention. He can’t right anything good, so he has to try and invoke us with a something that will OPEN OUR EYES! Anyone can grab attention. Its the same as running in a room of people and yelling FIRE!! Everyone will look! But Ken, cmon is that the best you can do? Oh wait , I guess it is otherwise you would have written an article that is good, not one that is full of lies and bullkaka. What we can do is ignore him. Not read what he writes. Wait thats what we were doing and the reason he was ranting and spewing these lies! Well how unfortunate for FOX. They actually let the article be published. This will not only degrade his credability, but Foxs’ as well.

This absurd!!!

Too white!?! Give me a friggin’ break!!! Did Ken get hit in the head with a line drive foul ball recently while doing a dugout report?

If Ken is basing his notion on the fact that there are relatively few blacks on the Red Sox roster, then he needs to enlarge his vision because the number of blacks attempting to play baseball professionally has steadily declined over the last 20 years.

Ken also seems to completely have forgotten about the Latin and Asian players on the Red Sox and in Major League Baseball in general.

As I stated in a comment regarding Tim McCarver’s comments last week entitled "Beating A Dead Horse", these asinine comments are being made (first by McCarver and now by Rosenthal) because the baseball part of Fox Sports are under intense pressure to deliver strong ratings numbers since there has been negative return on their investment to air these post-season games for years now, and a shake up in the #1 Announce Team is imminent. Joe Buck is safe, since he is the face of Fox Sports. In my opinion Tim McCarver’s comments were made to try and save his job, and Ken Rosenthal’s comments were meant to try and draw enough attention to himself to try and take Tim’s job.

This is absurd!!!

Too white!?! Give me a friggin’ break!!! Did Ken get hit in the head with a line drive foul ball recently while doing a dugout report?

If Ken is basing his notion on the fact that there are relatively few blacks on the Red Sox roster, then he needs to enlarge his vision because the number of blacks attempting to play baseball professionally has steadily declined over the last 20 years.

Ken also seems to completely have forgotten about the Latin and Asian players on the Red Sox and in Major League Baseball in general.

As I stated in a comment regarding Tim McCarver’s comments last week entitled "Beating A Dead Horse", these asinine comments are being made (first by McCarver and now by Rosenthal) because the baseball part of Fox Sports are under intense pressure to deliver strong ratings numbers since there has been negative return on their investment to air these post-season games for years now, and a shake up in the #1 Announce Team is imminent. Joe Buck is safe, since he is the face of Fox Sports. In my opinion Tim McCarver’s comments were made to try and save his job, and Ken Rosenthal’s comments were meant to try and draw enough attention to himself to try and take Tim’s job.

someone please take rosenthal’s pen away from him for the rest of senseless life.  he’s a complete fool.

No seriously please take his pen away.  Rosenthal you sir are a dolt.  Next time you announce the lineup make sure you introduce Papi and CoCo as McOrtiz and O’Crisp.

No seriously please take his pen away.  Rosenthal you sir are a dolt.  Next time you announce the Red Sox lineup make sure you introduce Papi and CoCo as McOrtiz and O’Crisp to make us frighten racist honkies in Boston more comfortable.

The real question that needs to be asked is – what’s so worthwhile about "diversity" to begin with? 

What is there in a sports team or a sport where being "all white" or "all anything" is wrong?  If the Tennessee Titans are ever considered "all black" because they have a history of signing black quarterbacks from their Oiler days (Warren Moon, Steve McNair, Vince Young), so what?  Moon, McNair, and even Young won a lot of games for the team.  Isn’t that what matters most?

I want to be the federally mandated white posse member for The Game or someone of that stature.

How come no one ever writes an article about whether a NBA team is too black? To compare the north to the south is ridiculous and if you want to, why don’t you start with comparing how many people have confederate flags in their yard or on their cars in both sections of the country. Their is racism everywhere. Whites hating black, blacks hating white, asians and latinos hating blacks, blacks hating latinos and the muslims hating us all. No one is better than the other, but the problem is there is always someone waiting to put the blame on someone else. Everyone should just be proud to be an American, because that is what we all have in common, no matter the color of one’s skin.

I am by no means a Red Sox fan but thats total bs…if a guy didnt want to sign with a team because they were "too white" then he’s got his own set of problems.  The same could be said but opposite for the Mets that they are "too Hispanic" but that would be considered racist wouldn’t it?

   Get over yourselves. This isn’t the History Blog. The sox are not racist, there just the Best.

What’s really interesting here is this: when you listen to the 3 guys (Byrd, Bay, Kotsay) the Sox traded for from the trade deadline through the waiver period, every one of them said they wanted the opportunity to play for a championship.  Nothing about money or contract term.

Manny, on the other hand, was all about the money.  Getting a promise from the Red Sox that they wouldn’t exercise the team option for 2009 because he wanted the chance to make more money somewhere else.

I’ve always said I wanted players in Boston who wanted to play here.  If minority players don’t want the chance to play with a championship club they can sign with the Mets…and continue to play golf in October.