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by Chris Mottram • Nov 20, 2009 10:10 AM EST
Allow us to preface this tweet from SI’s Jon Heyman by telling you that this is a man who lobbied for Rick Porcello to win ROY because he had 14 wins and pitched for a team in the pennant chase. Heyman is the posterboy for old-school baseball writer mentality. Which is fine, I guess -- their kind will soon be phased out anyway. But don't call other people dumb for finding statistical flaws in Carpenter's resume:
i dont mean to pick on the voters. but how do 2 of them leave chris carpenter off the ballot entirely? #dumbsportswriters
Will Carroll was one of the two voters who left Carpenter off their ballot. (The other was Keith Law.) Carroll took exception to being called “dumb,” which then prompted an apology from Heyman.
Heyman isn’t alone though. Bryan Burwell at the St. Louis Post-Dispatch is baffled by this new-aged movement to award pitchers based on stats that actually matter instead of wins:
I am not particularly outraged by any of this, but I am confused. […] So tell me again, why is winning not an important stat anymore?
It makes me feel like they’re either trying to out-think themselves or justify their sabermetric fascinations when I hear people tell me that a pitcher’s victories aren’t all that important.
Whatever you do, Mr. Burwell, DO NOT go to this site, where they’re constantly acting upon their dirtiest sabermetric fantasies. It’s a pornographic cesspool of numbers and logic.
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Sabermerics are awesome, but Porcello deserved the ROY
He was a starter, and become arguably the Tigers second best pitcher since Edwin Jackson totally collapsed in his last 6 games. He pitched well enough to get the Tigers into the playoffs, but some coaches won’t bunt even if it will get them the victory.
Oh, and only an idiot would have left Carpenter off his ballot. Leave Wainwright off, sure… but not Carpenter. Lincecum deserved it, but Carp was a close second.
by FranklinBluth26 on Nov 21, 2009 11:09 AM EST reply actions
A SP is more valuable than a reliever but Porcello wasn't even the best rookie SP this year.
No matter which way you cut it he did not deserve to win ROY
by DeJay on Nov 23, 2009 12:14 PM EST up reply actions
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