Another Model Better than the BCS: Tournament of Champions

So…..are we supposed to wait around until the FCS decides its (not it’s) champion? Mid-December? Why? To fill out the field with Montana instead of Florida? Someone should just create a 12th conference, then.

I’m seen plenty of playoff systems for college football, but this one is just awful. The FCS Champ? Are you kidding? You’re just trying to be cute now Dan. Any system that wouldn’t include Florida this year has no merit.

You could try telling Florida not to choke…or maybe schedule a not so cupcake schedule so they could be ready for a big game. 

They should adopt the Royal Rumble format, although I don’t know how you’d manifest that in football.

embarrassing.  the bcs works.  alabamas the best team in the nation and they will win the bcs title jan 7th so stop crying about a playoff.

Here’s my question:  why even include the FCS champ?  Why not just make it an 11-team playoff, with 5 teams having a bye into the quarterfinals and the other six playing for the remaining spots.

Love the idea of including just the conference champs, though.

the bcs doesn’t work, it’s a joke, anyone who says it does work, your drinking kool-aid, how does it work when you could have not one but two 14-0 teams if boise st beats tcu, and oh yeah tcu also played clemson, at clemson and virgina, texas played utep,ucf,wyoming.

the reason why tcu had no chance was the pre-season polls, if the bcs really wanted to be taken seriously and college football, they would at least wait until 4-6 weeks into the season, tcu pre-season was 17 and had no chance because of pre-season polls

Good thinking, don’t like The FCS inclusion at all, but adding each conference champion is a very good idea. Nice Work! No doubt, this is a tough nut to crack.

In one week, I’m going to post the solution on my Blog. 

What everyone forgets is div 2 and fcs schools play a 16 team tournament so why not fbs schools> your telling me academis are more importat to florida then they are to montana? are u kidding me. Oh or injuries to fcs and div 2 players dont matter cause hey they wont play in nfl anyways? thats sarcasm by the way. my point is go to a 16 team tournament like everyone else stop with all the stupid excuses adn just do it. That way we finally get a real national champ. Oh ncaa could cut back games from 12 reg season to 10 or 11 even to make it work its not like they need to play 12 game seasons. If u have a playoff and no playoff teams could stillg o to bowls. no one reallyw atches the low bowls anyways.

One thing to say about the BCS…it is better than the system we had before (remember when a national champion was arbitrarily decided upon?). It is clearly imperfect, but I don’t know if we really need a 12-team playoff. 

Imagine the outrage and disrespect a team that enters your little tournament at #12 would generate if they won! Right now, it seems like we could all agree on four great teams. Sure, some would get left out, but the order of those four hardly matters. So, a four team ‘playoff’ might be more reasonable.

Something needs to be done, and this shakedown ain’t it.  Still, a fine idea…if not ideal.

4080, no the b.s-BCS doesn’t work. Just look at the Fiesta Bowl & Sugar Bowl match up’s. The Sugar Bowl trophy should just be handed to Florida right now. Don’t even bother playing the game because the Gators will crush the coach-less Bearcats. And to pair up the two non-BCS school’s is just a slap in the face to both programs.

Until you show the finances generated from this type of playoff and how a big time school earns MORE money, this is dead in the water.  You must also take in account the transfer of ad money away from traditional bowls (which you claim will continue). 

You can postulate all you want about which format is best or how to seed the participants.  It doesn’t matter until you SHOW ME THE MONEY.

I am working on a better model that would encompass 8 teams, use the BCS rankings and not tax any schools schedules…watch my blog between now and next tuesday

In a playoff format that is legit, Florida would have no place in the picture, and neither would my Iowa Hawkeyes. If a team doesn’t win its own conference, it shouldn’t deserve a shot at the title. I don’t care if the put the Sun Belt champ in the playoffs. But anyone who doesn’t win their conference shouldn’t be given a shot to win the national championship.

And I hate when Cowlishaw points out the lack of championship games in some conferences. So what? The Big Ten is the only one you can gripe about, since we don’t play everyone AND we don’t have a CCG. But Cincy and Oregon are legit, seeing as how the Pac-10 and Big East teams play everyone in their conference every year. They don’t NEED a championship game, because it’s decided in the regular season. Ever wonder why there’s rarely a debate about those two conferences’ champions? Because no one can complain. You either got beat by the champ, or you lost more games than they did. It’s that simple.

I have said  we need an 8 team mini playoff in place of BCS version top 2.  But What I have said is create 2 more BCS bowls, 4 present plus 2 more, to be completed NLT Jan2nd.  Thats 12 slots, 6 big 6 automatic slots and at least 2 non big 6 slots, leaving 4 at large. So have 6 winners.  Then have BCS final poll or better have NCAA or special group select and seed 8 teams for mini playoff AFTER bowls. The original 6 serve as part of playoff, better win  to go on.  Be 1-8, 2-7 etc, and start same week present BCS championship game is now.  There would be a possibilty of some one who didn’t get to play in original 6 bowls to sneak in after bowls.  Plus keep rule NO conference can have more thtwo teams at one time. Conference could lose one in orig 6 bowls but lose one and one sneak in.  Just don’t mess with other Dec bowls.  To many teams can’t get into big game and those bowls are great for them and gives team more authorized practice time.  I just think 4 week is too long, mini 8 is 4-2-1 making a total of 13 BCS games , more revenue and better type champion. Have to play during week, pro playoff, but last , championship game could be played on weekend before  Super Bowl….Why not?, BB goes from NOV thru Mar/Apr and Baseball plays mostly after school year over…. would only be 4 and 2 teams going past present time of BCS championship. Some of the 12 Team conf’s say heck we gotta play each other in championship game, well thats there fault, making game for revenue and exposure, I think that conference where ALL play each other every year is a better representation of a conference champion , everyone play each other, period…Happy Holidays to all….. just my small input, remember key is to encrease to 6 BCS bowls then have good selection process quickly seeding 8 teams after bowls……

I kinda like it.  I agree that if you are not a conference champion, you have no business playing for the National Championship, and I am a Gator fan.

Its the one thing about the NFL that Kinda bothers me (non Division champs can win the whole thing through the Wild Card route, but I don’t have a solution for that)

Players don’t get hurt at the end of the year!

this model still doesn’t have Florida in it and they could beat anyone anygivin sat. so i still am not a fan of this completely. i do like parts but would rather see the top 16 teams in football rankings get in and let the best one win

winning your conference shouldn’t be so relied on, watch march madness and you will see that sometimes the best teams may lose some games early or late bc of injury or whatever it may be but they win it all and are the best team at the end of the year.

I like the 16 team playoff.  11 Conference champs….and 5 WC teams (no matter the conference).  You could even use the BCS rankings to help find the final 5 teams to keep them in the loop. 

But lets not talk about 17 games….who cares….some high school teams play 15 games, so what the big deal about 17 for college football. 

You could even take away the 12th game that you added a couple of years ago. 

And if you are really concerned about the amount of games, take away the conference championship game…after all there would be a playoff system to determine the real champ.  Now I just eliminated 2 games to get College Football down to 15 games…….just like high school!

For everyone’s information there is 12 FBS conferences but BCS only recognizes 6. But I would take the 12 Conference Champs and 4 at larges to have a playoff. Also have a 10 or 11 game regular season.

Sorry, the BCS isn’t as bad as everyone claims it is. It’s just ignorant to believe that a 16 team playoff is realistic. Why is CFB so great? Because of how awesome the regular season is. That Texas/Nebraska game? Meaningless with a 16 team playoff for Texas. Alabama/Florida, meaningless. The only situation that I’ll accept is a plus-1. Anything more than that cheapens CFB in a big way. 

It isn’t changing for the next four years at least.Can we please agree to limit the outraged comments and the oh-so-original playoff format postings by half.  How many times can you say the same thing over and over again?  There has to be something else we can talk about.  ——————————————————-By the way, for those of you with short memories, or who are so young that they don’t remember, the BCS was created by the 6 BCS conferences and Notre Dame to try to create 1-2 match-up in a bowl.  It wasn’t created to give minor programs a chance to prove themselves.  It has certainly proven profitable and news-worthy.  College football was big in the 80s, but not like this.  People payed attention to their conference, with a little bit of attention given to the top teams from other parts of the country.  The BCS has created an environment in which people are very interested in teams from all over the country, even the ones in the WAC and MWC.  It’s been good for college football and the fans.Oh, and yes, they did get it right this year.

The BCS was created to make the big conferences millions of dollars. Period. If it was all about #1 vs. #2, then those "minor" programs would actually get a fair shake. It’s all about the money, and more specifically, it’s all about the Big 6 and ND getting their money.

And given the way that the system works, it did get it right this year. Texas didn’t do anything to lose its ranking. But I also think that TCU should have been matched up against Florida. I wouldn’t put it past the head men of the BCS to pay off the Fiesta Bowl to keep the ugly stepchildren in their place, just so some BCS league team (specifically Florida) doesn’t risk getting embarrassed like Okalhoma and Alabama. That’s not a slight to Boise State and Utah. But it’s embarrassing for teams and leagues who think of themselves as vastly superior.

I would be so bold to suggest only six confrences and call that DI. All confrences would have 12 teams and a Conf CG. That leaves seven openings for mid majors. ND could join the Big East along with PSU (PSU belongs in the Big East,It’s more natural.) Cincy could Join the B10 with maybee Iowa state or Nebraska.Leaving the way for TCU to join the B12. BYU and BSU can join the P10. I would say it would be an open tryout for the rest to fill the remaining spots. Have the CCG’s be played the fri and sat after Thanksgiving. Take a week off and start the Playoff of the six champions and two at large.One game on Friday and three on sat. $5 mil to the 1st round loser $7mil to the winner. $10 mil to semifinal loser $12 mil to the winner. Take a week off and have the rest of the bowl games and build it up to the NCG tobe played on Jan 1. The two 2nd rd losers can play in another bowl if the school chooses. 1st rd losers are out. Think of all the great games to be squeezed in in a two week period.

Of course we would need a sponsor, say.. I don’t know…ESPN (They seem to want a playoff). Also home field to the higher seed! I think alowing a Conf champ to get an automatic bid would allow for better non conf games. Also having 6 conf instead of 11 makes for better cometition. For the ones left out…it’s a tough world, no one said it would be fair.

Love it Dan, just take out the FCS Champ and add one at large bid and we are done. This is one of the few playoff scenarios that actually makes sense. Anything less than a 12 team playoff would be psychotic, we can’t fairly pick ten BCS bowl entrees now, therefor we have to up the number.