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Shoals Unlimited: Age Limit May Protect the Kids

Discussions about the NBA age limit almost invariably involve the short-term, specifically the run-up to the draft and the year or two that follow. David Stern's edict from above put a stop to a lot of this. But the conversation has continued, mutated to fit the new landscape of under-aged players. Can you realistically keep a LeBron-like talent out of the league for one token season? Has Brandon Jennings' bumpy season in Rome helped or hurt his stock? Does Jeremy Tyler's decision mean the end of the world as we know it?

However, we're also now getting to look at how the careers of high school draftees play out over the long-term. Kevin Garnett kicked off the revolution by going fifth in 1995 -- nearly 14 years ago. The generation of NBA players that had preps-to-pro as an option are veterans with extensive track records and definite tendencies. Or at least enough of them are that we can wonder what, if any, effect this decision has had on their careers. With several of these guys playing key roles in these playoffs, it's worth asking what we should expect of them -- and what getting drafted out of high school has to do with it.

Most obviously, players like Garnett and Kobe Bryant have been around forever. Bryant will turn 31 this summer, and yet he's been a perennial All-Star since 1998. During that time, he's also managed to collect those three rings and last year's MVP. For anyone else, this would be a Hall of Fame career. Because of KB24's early start, though, there's still another phase yet to come; in Bryant's likely exceptional case, it also happens to be a second, more mature, prime. After that, he could leave at the top of his game, or hang on for a farewell stint, maybe still in search of that elusive Shaq-less championship. When you view KG through this same lens, his transformative effect on the Celtics becomes all the more impressive.

And, at the risk of totally blowing your mind, what happens if LeBron's just now beginning the second act of a four-act reign of terror?

At the same time, though, many of the biggest names that came out of high school are thought of as injury-prone or fragile. Tracy McGrady's legacy may hang in the balance with this Portland/Houston series; Tyson Chandler, so key to the Hornets' past success, is barely himself; and Jermaine O'Neal has returned from NBA purgatory to give the Miami Heat a consistent second option -- again, that luxury of getting a second, third, and fourth act. It would be easy to draw a connection between extra-long careers and players breaking down. But McGrady, Chandler, and O'Neal all played sparingly in their first few seasons. What's more, Jonathan Bender, Darius Miles, Amare Stoudemire, Shaun Livingston, Andrew Bynum, and Martell Webster, among others, have had their career ended or marred by injuries.

The NFL always has insisted, with good reason, that their age limit keeps players from joining the pro ranks before they are physically ready. We've all seen how skinny those teens were when they shook Stern's hand; we figured it might keep them on the bench for a year or two. What we never figured was that, with the exception of physical specimens like LeBron (but Amare was one of those wasn't he?), young players' bodies might need at least a year to transition between high school and the pros. Whether or not they're getting significant playing time, they go up against grown men in practice, and also have to deal with a far more demanding schedule (and the travel that goes with it). If the rookie wall is real, at least anecdotally, why wouldn't it be even more serious for kids just out of the 12th grade?

What's more, what about Greg Oden and Gerald Wallace, one-and-dones who have had problems staying on the floor? Forget about honor, values and dignity; if student-athletes are forced to stick around till age 20, it could very well have more to do with their physical well-being than how polished they can become in the coach-centric environment of NCAA ball. Although common sense would seem to indicate that more time in college means less time in the pros, it might well be the case that the opposite is true.

While cynics have consistently said the age limit is about marketing and name recognition, purists insist it makes for more refined players and moralists don't like teens making millions, this angle might provide the best rationale. Stern himself has suggested that physical maturity might be a factor. Looking over the past decade, there's ample evidence to support this claim. That's why, when Brandon Jennings says Europe helps because he plays against grown men, or Jeremy Tyler points to obnoxious high school triple-teams as a reason to drop out and head to Europe, we need to figure out if they aren't hurting, not helping, their respective futures.

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What about Euro players, who never bothered with collegiate or even high school play?  If your concern over the durability of preps-to-pros players holds up, then shouldn’t Euros all fall apart before they turn 30?  Dirk’s played 76+ games for the last ten seasons, and Pau and Parker haven’t had any serious injury problems.  Older Euros like Vlade Divac had exceptionally injury-free and lengthy careers.  (Ginobili doesn’t count, his style of play can explain his health issues.)  Are Euros just better conditioned than young American players?

by rondoftw on Apr 30, 2009 12:58 PM EDT reply actions  

Seasons in the Euro leagues are not as long as the NBA’s seasons, it’s not even close. 

I think the real problem with this analysis is that it doesn’t have a control.  What is the liklihood of ANY player have long term injury issues compared to the players who come directly out of high school?  I think that comparison would be necessary to support an argument that high school players are more likely to be injured as a result of joining the NBA before their bodies have matured.  I suspect that playing basketball is simply a dangerous sport which is going to injur players over the course of a 10 year career.  The kids will get hurt playing, but so will everyone else. 

by bellison22 on Apr 30, 2009 1:20 PM EDT reply actions  

Actually if you want to talk about Euro players with injuries Tony Parker is a good example. He has had fairly chronic ankle problems throughout his career. It should also be noted that most of those Euro players are trained heavily from as early as 14 or 15. High School players in the US don’t have the same luxury.

The truth is that the vast majority of kids who went straight to the NBA had short and unremarkable careers. They were not mature enough mentally, physically, and their basketball IQ was not up to the level of players who had played in the NBA. Nobody who was around for the golden age of basketball from the 70’s to the mid 90’s will deny that having a complete college resume under their belts made these players better.

by njm1314 on Apr 30, 2009 4:01 PM EDT reply actions  

Actually, if you look at a full list, you’d be surprised at how high the success rate is. Remember, the group is self-selecting (and behind that, dictated by team interest). And while we may think of Kwame Brown as a bust relative to where he was drafted, he’s still in the league. And a ridiculous percentage of them went on to be All-Stars (given the smaller pool you’re working with there).

by bethlehemshoals.tsn on Apr 30, 2009 4:06 PM EDT reply actions  

lets see sam bowie, bill walton, grant hill were injury plagues. dawkins started young and had a lengthy and productive career. the "evidence" on this is too anecdotal. looking at this years body types, however, stephen curry still looks like a kid while blake griffin is obviusly a man. its a rough physical sport with the average career lasting less then 5 years and your "evidence" is just all over the place. as an old school curmudgeon i enjoy the 2 or 3 year players in college but it is no more appropriate to deny one and dones or hs players the opportunity to go pro than it woud have been to insist tiget play longer at stanford. many of us have changed our goals and dreams over lengthy working lives, give the young people the same shot.

by george32 on May 1, 2009 10:13 AM EDT reply actions  

None of those guys came out of high school. And those examples span three decades.

by bethlehemshoals.tsn on May 1, 2009 10:37 AM EDT reply actions  

The other more rational way to look at this is that if Chandler had been forced to play 2 years of college or so, he would have lost 2 years of income if he ultimately has to hang it up early because of injury.  It’s more reasonable to assume that these guys have a certain number of miles like NFL running backs, and that playing college ball is taking from, rather than adding to, the number of productive years they can have in the NBA. 

by tkbone on May 1, 2009 11:30 AM EDT reply actions  

From above: "Although common sense would seem to indicate that more time in college
means less time in the pros, it might well be the case that the
opposite is true."

by bethlehemshoals.tsn on May 1, 2009 11:37 AM EDT reply actions  

Aren’t the best trainers in the pros?  So the recevery would be more detailed and timely than say a HS or college kid because you’re a team’s asset. Futher investigation into injuries sustained in HS and their impact on the preps to pros would be more conclusive.  For instance Leon Powe.  If he hadn’t sustained the knee injuries in HS he was targeted as a prep to pro with LBJ.  Instead he went to Cal to "rehab" and was selected well after he’d been projected if not for the knee injury in HS.   

by ldukea on May 1, 2009 4:20 PM EDT reply actions  

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