No, Lane Kiffin, You Can't Do That Either

Kiffin better produce right away for TN….cuz he is really making a lot of waves and enemies.

Thank ESPN. My guess? They knew sitting in while Kiffin met with a recruit was a violation (They’ve been in this business long enough to know), but how awesome for them, if they can be present for an actual secondary violation by the notorious Kid Kiffin??

How about commenting on this? Kiffin was polite and diplomatic when asked about Oakland. The Raiders organization, however, released a statement that should embarrass any Raider fan, and proved beyond a doubt, what everybody already knows about Al Davis — he’s a dick.

It is Kiffin’s job to know the rules, not ESPN’s.  I am willing to bet he had prior knowledge that ESPN was going to be in his office that day.  I am willing to be he knew that the recruits were going to be in his office that day.  I am willing to be there are places other than his office at the time that the recruits could have been while ESPN was present.  I am willing to bet he was once again uneducated enough in the rules to know what they were.  And finally, I am willing to bet that he thought having ESPN in his office when the recruits walked in was gonna impress the recruits, thus him allowing it to happen in the first place.

Kiffin may turn out to be the next Bear Bryant or Vince Lombardi, who knows?  He definitely has people talking about Tennessee, but he better win or people will be laughing at Tennessee instead of just talking about them.  I am sure he would like to spin it that he planned for all that stuff to happen and such, but he just doesn’t come across as a guy that seems to know what he is doing or that he strategicly planned any of it to get Tennessee on the lips of everyone else in the country.

To everyone other than Volunteer fans, he looks like a guy trying to figure it out as he goes.  Then again, maybe he will be the one laughing at all of us in the end.

Kiffin-the only guy who can make Al Davis look like a genius.

Kiffin is learning the hard way that the stuff you get away with at SC doesn’t fly in the SEC.

No one ever said anything about Saban and his 20+ violations his first year.  Yeah Kiffin has to know about this stuff, but there are thousands of things to know and you can’t get them all right.  ESPN is at fault on this one, too.

First off f*ck ESPN. The "world wide leader of sports" knows the rules. If rivals.com knows the rules, then they do. They knowingly set Kiffin up. Secondly, no one is talking about Tennessee, their talking about Lane Kiffin, who doesn’t have a clue.

Who cares?  That’s a violation??  How stupid.  I don’t get all the hate on this guy.  I sure hope the SEC beats him this season because if he wins its going to be hilarious!

Wow, poor old Kiffy-po just cannot win. Mabye he should take a chill-pill. A lot of this secondary violation stuff is kinda crazy anyway. At least it makes for an interesting off season in college football.

Fool me once-shame on you.  Fool me twice-shame on me.  If Al Davis has hired the person stay away from them once they leave the Raider program.  Kiffin has basically put himself in a position where he needs to win a BCS Bowl to make up for everything he has done.

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With as much money as Tennessee is paying this clown, you’d think they would have invested in a rules expert/lawyer/tutor for Kiffin and his new crew.  Screw up once, okay, you’re new, beginner’s mistake.  You keep screwing up, making headline after headline, and you start to look incompetent.

Given the choice of sane or crazy, which would you label Lane Kiffin and Al Davis?  Maybe both are crazy.

Remember this is a guy who bragged about only missing one question on the NCAA recruiting test. It turns out he took it online and with each additional careless secondary it looks more and more like he used the ‘Florida State method’ for online test taking.

Who will last longer as a NCAA Head Coach…..Isiah Thomas or Lane Kiffin? One has to wonder if Lane will last the season the way he keeps breaking rules for all to see and shooting his mouth off every chance he gets.

I honestly don’t know if Kiffin is just that arrogant to believe nothing will happen to him or Tennessee or if he is just that stupid to not understand the rules.  Hey, I agree, the rule itself is stupid, but I lost that argument with the cop who flagged me going 60 on the 45mph road. 

The people blaming ESPN remind me of the athletes that blame their private physicians when they fail drug tests.  Just like the athletes, it’s the coach’s responsibility to know the recruiting rules, not ESPN’s.  After all, that’s why the coaches are required to take and pass the NCAA’s recruiting exam before they can begin recruiting (you know, that exam that Steve Spurrier accused Kiffin of not taking; with all the violations, maybe he was right.)

Kiffin was a sympathetic figure last fall when he was fired by the Raiders and Al Davis held that press conference.  He has severely damaged that goodwill, and has started to make Davis look like he was right.

But the bottom line for Kiffin is going to be on the field (assuming that there are not any primary violations or other things that get the program in seriously hot water with the NCAA.)   As a Dawg fan, I of course hope he fails; and if he does, the UT fans and administation are not likely to give him a long leash….

Blah blah blah, just a bunch of filling up column space, during the off-season.

Some great coaches are kooky, some bad coaches are as straight as an arrow.

This is all just a bunch of “blah blah blah I have nothing else to write about so I’ll shovel this crap until the season starts” manure.

We won’t know anything until the man actually coaches a few games.

Kiffin is like one of those spoiled children running around Willie Wonka’s chocolate factory; give him a few minutes and he will arrogantly break another rule. And hey, the Vols even wear oompaloompa orange!

ESPN is not to blame for this, Kiffin is…period. This isn’t Lane Kiffin’s first NCAA rodeo as he was the rising star on Pete Carroll’s staff at USC before he flamed out the Raiders gig. He has recruited plenty of players and should know what a secondary violation is, yet he continually commits them..and every time he does the UT faithful try their hardest to lay the blame at someone else’s feet. Maybe Lane Kiffin should spend more time paying attention to what he’s doing than trying to find fault at South Carolina, Georgia, or Florida.

Somebody needs to get Kiffin a rule book. This is embarassing for everyone. This is what happens IMHO when you hire a coach for the wrong reasons (the right reason is of course competancy). They hired a spokesmodel not a football coach. They deserve what they get.

Somebody needs to get Kiffin a rule book. This is embarassing for everyone. This is what happens IMHO when you hire a coach for the wrong reasons (the right reason is of course competancy). They hired a spokesmodel not a football coach. They deserve what they get.

Here’s an idea for the NCAA Infractions committee. Have one of your investigators be issued an office at the SEC offices. Be sure he has 24/7 access to a flight to Knoxville to keep up with the things going on at UT. C’mon guys, do a little research before you agree to things!! This isn’t the NFL!! (Yet!!!)

no suprise, this guy is a clown and a joke of a coach

here’s hoping he crashes and burns

espn’s up to their ass-holey shenanigans once again. Is anyone really surprised?

i read somewhere ohio st has something like 300 2nd vil. over the last 5 years or so. it seems that these viol. are pointless. it gets our program in the news, so i could care less.

What about the two prospective recruits who were in the clip now sitting at home thinking, "look at me, I’m on ESPN, with Lane and Monte Kiffin!"  To land a stud db or two, well, that is worth a couple dozen secondary violations in my book.  I’m sure CLK knew and used it to his advantage.

Maybe the NCAA instead of recording these "secondary," violations should think about maybe punishing Tennessee for running such a second rate mickey mouse operation. Is there any amount of secondary violations that will eventually have consequences attached?

And to these Tennessee fans who think that anything that gets your name out there is good. You guys need to grow up and take the rose color glasses off. Arkansas got there name out there when the fans turned on Houston Nutt and Bobby Petrion bolted mid season. Michigan was all over the news last season with Rich Rodriguez’s lawsuit from West Virginia. Heck South Florida was in the news when their former players were tragically lost at sea during that fishing trip. It doesn’t equate to good things for your program just because people are talking about you!

You are TENNESSEE are you that desperate for headlines that you let this smarmy little snake oil salesman break every NCAA rule and make fools out of everyone? Apparently.

Good god how the mighty have fallen. Have some respect for yourselves.

Obviously, Kiffen is willing to violate any and all minor rules to get an edge in recruiting, because he knows the NCAA will do nothing as long as it’s a ‘minor’ infraction. I think he read the rule book very well; he may just be crazy like a fox.

There is one good thing about being an Auburn fan, were not Tennessee fans. 

Kiffin`s got the orange volunteer nation seeing red right now! Daddy Monte better have a talk with his little boy!

I don’t believe Kiffin is "crazy like a fox."  I think this dude is a moron of monumental proportions.

It is a crying shame – although NOT a Tennessee fan, I always had a tremendous amount of respect for Fullmer. 

It is sad to see a once respected SEC program run by this bozo.

I have also circled Saturday, September 19th on my calender.    

You people amaze me. Kiffin isn’t a moron. He knows what he’s doing. You don’t get where he’s been, or where he is, by being an idiot.

I’ve seen enough of him with the players, and enough of him speaking, to recognize the fact that he is a natural leader. As a retired military officer, I know a little about that subject, and how to recognize people with leadership skills.

I don’t know how he’ll work out yet as our head coach, but so far he’s done everything he said he would do, and everything he was hired to do.

Perhaps somebody should mention, when talking about secondary violations, that in 2007, the Big Televen had almost 200 recruiting violations between them. Nobody cared then, and nobody cares now. There just seem to be an awful lot of haters out there.

x-pert, you said, "If Al Davis has hired the person stay away from them once they leave the Raider program." Yeah, Gruden and Calllahan should never have been hired by another NFL owner. If anything, being fired by Al Davis should be considered a glowing endorsement.

dag962, you had a tremendous amount of respect for Fulmer, but not enough to be able to spell his name?

So, Kiffin is the anti-christ because his staff may have committed 5 secondary violations in his first six months. Well, where was all the fuss when Clemson committed 13 in six months?

http://www.independentmail.com/news/2008/feb/15/clemson-university-reports-13-secondary-violations/

You people amaze me. Kiffin isn’t a moron. He knows what he’s doing.
You don’t get where he’s been, or where he is, by being an idiot.

Allow me to counterpoint that:

Exhibit A) George W. Bush

:D

Just sayin’.

He’s record better be more impressive then his perfect violation record.  Can’t recall a new head coach at a major program getting the boot in a year because he’s a complete boob.

Can’t recall a new head coach at a major program getting the boot in a year because he’s a complete boob.

Actually, didn’t Bama have one of those who didn’t ever even coach a game before he was canned??

Once again, do you people not understand what a secondary violation is? There are a thousand little rules, and no coach at any program is really aware of all of them. I guarantee you that. That’s why every program has a compliance office. The people in that office aren’t there to prevent these violations, only to determine if something is one after the fact, and if so, report it to the conference, and/or the NCAA, depending on what level it is. EVERY program has these things happening. Sometimes it happens because a booster, or even just a fan, posts something on a website that is against the rules. Sometimes the coach himself says something that is. Sometimes a player does it. Sometimes it’s a university employee, or even a member of the media.

I personally think the ones where the coaches plan an event that is against the rules are tough to excuse, even if the rule itself is stupid. Those are the ones that the coaches could clear with the compliance office beforehand. The others, which usually make up the majority, are the ones that should just be written off. Those are the ones like when an assistant, who’s responsible for posting the coach’s latest news to fans on his twitter, mentions a recruit’s name, not realizing it’s illegal.

This particular one involving ESPN, I could go either way. Maybe ESPN knew and could have helped Kif out. Maybe both of them knew, and Kif figured it would kinda fire up the recruit to be on ESPN, so he’d do it anyway. Who knows? Only Kif, I suppose.

Kiffin is getting UT into the spotlight, which is good, but come this fall, the Vols are going to be destroyed by most SEC teams.  Eric Berry is the only hope UT has this year.  Also, Raptor Jesus hates Kiffin.

At this point, all I’m going to do is just shake my head.  Granted this does seem like a bit of a set up job by ESPN to get Kiffin and UT in some more hot water but at the same time, he should have known better.  It’s almost a ****ed if you, ****ed if you don’t situation.  It’s not a huge deal by any means.  It’s one of those, "Awww, seriously?  Come on," kind of things.  Give him credit where it’s due though.  He’s kept UT in the spotlight and I do see that side of it now.  Great job there.

I’m just glad that it’s almost down to the point where all the talk is going to end and we’re going to get down to business.  Here’s to only two months left to go through until the real sports season starts. 

What I love is the the fact that Kiffin hasn’t done **** yet, but he’s running his mouth like he owns the SEC.  Accusing other coaches of cheating while committing violations himself.  Dude is such an assclown.

I hate Kiffin with a passion, but as long as the NCAA allows blatant rule-breaking, what can you do?  Why even have these "secondary violations" in the rulebook at all when no penalties are enforced when they are broken?

Yeah, real easy coming from a Bama fan whose coach had 30 secondary violations in his first year. Kiffin still has 24 more left to go if that is the standard.

ha! Seriously?  how bout your coach gets a win before you start talking trash about other coaches in the SEC.  Kiffin won’t sniff a SEC East championship for years… if at all!

What proof do you have? Nobody knows that. Based on his record in college, he was a winner at USC, and has now brought in the best staff ever in the SEC. He recruited great players and had success at USC, and he has shown he is a great recruiter now here in knoxville, so success will follow. Get off his jock.

Best staff ever??  Saban has pulled in back to back number 1 recruiting classes, plus went 12-2 last year.  How many wins does Kiffin have in the SEC? 0! What he did at USC means nothing here in the SEC.  If Berry wasn’t on that team I’d say they wouldn’t win 4 games this year… hell they might not win 4 games WITH Berry this year. 

Ever heard of Monte Kiffin? He invented  all the great NFL defenses down there. Eddie Gran? Why do you think Bryce Brown signed with us? Lance Thompson even bolted from Bama. Hahaha

Lance Thompson also swore to put up a wall around Memphis too, and we’ve been cherry picking recruits since because Saban doesn’t give a ****.  Also Monte Kiffin is a great DC, but do you think all the retards at UT will be able to pick up that complex defense effectively in so little time?  Doubt it.  Your defense is Eric Berry, no one else on your team is good.  And having Monte Kiffin doesn’t solve the fact that JOHNATHON CROMPTON is your QB!  You guys are screwed, and we’ll spank your ass like the past 2 years.  And Bryce Brown will be dead running behind that line against Rolando McClain, Donte Hightower, and Terrence Cody. 

You’re wrong Eric Berry isn’t good. He’s great! He’s the best safety to ever play college football. And with Monte here , we ain’t the same ol’ pushovers anymore. He’ll have JPW’s flunky scrambling into the waiting arms of Ben Martin or Chris Walker. Good luck there.

McElroy won’t have to scramble anywhere.  He’s just going to hand the ball off and let Ingram and Richardson trample that piece of **** you call the UT defense.  Monte will probably be dead before the season starts anyways… he’s at least 120 years old.

Monte may be old, but at least he ain’t a midget. I’ll be surprised if he can read the names McElroy or Jackson on the back of their jersies from that distance. He won’t know which dummy he has in the game scrambling for his life. Saban could learn a thing or two from Monte.

Like how to raise a douchebag son?

What a douche

Kiffen will do anything to get a kid to UT. Incuding trotting his wife around like she is a GD hooker.

It’s not like anything will come of it. He’s a buffoon, but the NCAA is far more of a joke than Kiffen could ever be in how they handle violations, secondary or otherwise.

All Hail  Raptor Jesus

Kiffin is awesome, I hope he drifts from program to program so we never lose the constant entertainment.

Allah Saurus doesnt hold a candle to Raptor Jesus

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