Ortiz, Ramirez Allegedly on 2003 PED List; It's Time To Just Release 'The List'

Dead on! Stop this name-by-name release business, and just publish the whole thing. This has gone on long enough.

And when they finally release the list and punish the players on the list, release the names of the lawyers who were speaking "anonymously because the testing information is under seal by a court order" so they can be punished, too.

Yes!  This just makes no sense.  I would bet if someone on this list criticized Selig their name would be out next week.  Selig thought his big expensive investigation/report would end this… but it’s just bringing up more and more crap.

good article

I have said it since 2004… "It’s not just Bonds it’s the entire league, Bonds is just better then everyone else" fans said I had no proof.. My response was that I am a personal trainer and now have been since for 6 years and have seen it first hand for a long time especially with the football players high school- pro. 100% of them are taking some sort of ped. I have yet to meet one football player who is not taking a ped. NOT ONE! As for the major league baseball players I sat down 3 years ago with 3 of my buddies after our fantasy draft and a few beers we decided to take the entire MLB from 2003 .. 4 of us drafting 20 rounds, whoever gets the most right wins the 80 dollar pot all players who played in the majors that year are up for grabs these are the guys I drafted… Bonds, Sheffield, Clemens, Ortiz, Nevin, Percival, Nomar, Durazo, Salmon, Spezio, Thomas, Lee, Finley, Hafner, Galaraga, Mcgriff, Jeter, Pena, Posada and Juan gone.. Other notables I would have drafted would have been Pudge, Gilses, Stairs, Klesko, Sanders, Alou, Helton, V.Wells, Sexson, Chavez, T Clark, Boone, Schmidt, Dotel, Rivera, Alomar, Mesa, Thome, Wagner, Krod and Brown …..

They can’t release the list!  Neither the union nor MLB can do so without leaving themselves wide open to be sued by the players on the list who have not yet been exposed.  That’s the problem…both MLB and the Players Union promised confidentiality to the players if they cooperated with the 2003 testing.

So now what?? You black ball Bonds for what?? using steroids? wow.. Since nothing Bonds did counts do you take away the Sox world series which we all know is not won without steroid users Is this a part of the curse?? Was it right to black ball Bonds when he had at least 2 years left as a DH It’s all a joke. Fans called for Bonds to be banned from the game and Giants fans were called crazy for cheering a "cheat" but again I promise just like Arod/Afraud or Manny or Sheffield or Pudge or Tejada or Giambi fans will love him as soon as he hits another home run.. DOUBLE STANDARDS??? Can someone explain to me just like Arod – how Pujols is clean  and going to "save baseball"  lets hear it ! because I will tell you your wrong with more then valid points and we can argue back and forth Cardinal fans..Tell me how the biggest strongest, best hitter in the league is the only one that hasn’t used steroids. Please people lets finally get real and admit that Gntsfan24 has been right all along. I love it.

    I agree with everybody else, release the names. Or better yet if the players still to be named would just come on down!! This dribbling out of a name here & there is the most cowardly thing I’ve seen yet. The sooner all this comes out in the open, the quicker MLB can get on down the road from this era. Also it would let the players who were ACTUALLY clean get out from under that umbrella of taint.

PAPPI On Roids? "Wow who would of thunk it? Didn’t  Pappi say when arod got caught, That players who get caught using roids should be ban from baseball? Well Big Roids Pappi what do you have to say now? can’t wait to hear from the big mounth schilling now!

PAPPI On Roids? "Wow who would of thunk it? Didn’t  Pappi say when arod got caught, That players who get caught using roids should be ban from baseball? Well Big Roids Pappi what do you have to say now? can’t wait to hear from  schilling now!

I’m just glad that baseball has been clean all of these days after the compiliation of the "list". I’m also glad that I just found out that the tooth fairy is real…and she’s freakin’ hot.

What a surprise, the year they win their first world series, it turns out their two dominant batters were juiced. Another tainted Boston championship. they Must have attended the Belichek school of cheating.

i wish this list would just become public so the whispering of players will stop, i mean most people could guess most of the names on that list..Ortiz was no shock at all

Albert Pujols? Is he the only power hitter to be clean.  I doubt it, but he has yet to be implicated.

  MLB should come out and say we are going to release the list in a week, so that gives EVERYONE on the list to come clean. I gotta agree with what has been said earlier , ENOUGH of the name by name every couple of months . If you have released just a couple of "BIG NAMES" , then you should also be putting out the other names too.

It’s nothing short of amazing how cavalier many of you are about the violation of a sealed document, guessing those who think this is a positive are the same geniuses who pissed all over the USA during these last 8 years of Bush/Ashcroft/Gonzalez civil-liberties violations with comments like ‘if you have nothing to hide, you shouldn’t mind the Government listening to your phone conversations, etc.’ The point being, YOU are the problem that needs to be cut out of society, not the solution you believe yourselves to be. The FELONY here is the release of these names, the coincidence that the released players happen to be prominent minorities who make serious coin and have already done what they will do to pad the wallets of their organizations. Will John Henry volunteer to take an assessed value for the Red Sox at a 2002 level, which is 100’s of millions of dollars below what it worth after Manny delivered the only two championships the Red Sox have seen or are likely to see in multiple generations? Will the ownership who wish to alter the salary structure volunteer to return every dime of profit from sales and turnstiles associated with Barry, Alex, Manny, Papi?The owners want an NFL style situation, where they hold all the leverage and pocket coin, regardless of franchise specific productivity and a free enterprise system where the player commands what his production and marketability demands will never allow this. The NFL has deliberately taken its product down, there is no comparison between the talent laden pre-cap era clubs like the Bears, ‘86 Giants, Cowboys, 49ers and the watered down ’system’ clubs in the post cap era, but the networks still sell ads and nobody seems to care, so the owners say ‘hurrah!’, but this is a system that has resulted in the premiere franchise of the era having its second biggest ‘star’ be the head coach for his ability to elevate role players and fit them into a team concept, which works a hell of a lot better when you don’t have to compete with a higher-revenue team who can spend what they MAKE on their own product.

Is really anybody surprised at this……Pleas release all the names so we dont have to go through this crap every 3 months….What a joke……They should take alll state from these players and the teams they were on should loose the titles they won…I think its fair you have a one cheater on the field it should make it illegal and it should be an automatic forfeit………What a shame

Obviously the union didn’t protect A-rod, Big Papi, Manny, Bonds, Segui, and Grimsley from having their names revealed. So why should it focus on protecting the other 98 positive tests? I say just release the names so we can get this thing over with. ‘The List’ is like an annoying unrhythmic dripping faucet, with its ‘drip…drip….drip drip drip…drip….drip’ of names that are released every 2-3 months like clockwork. This only mean the next name will be released in time for the playoffs.

Release the list and break the emotioal hold it has on true baseball fans.