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Ohio State Fans Finally Hate Someone More Than Ryan Hamby

Tyler Moeller just had brain surgery because some guy punched him at a Florida bar, and the Columbus Dispatch dug out the guy's name.

Ohio State fans are noted for their decorum and perspective, at least insofar as they seem to totally lack both. Ohio State fans sent death threats to one of their own players who had the misfortune to drop a touchdown against Texas. They send death threats when the order something medium rare and it comes out well-done.

Who thinks this is going to go well? Everyone? Yeah, probably everyone.

McQuaide told the Times that Decker, 27, of Kenneth City, Fla., began receiving death threats from irate Ohio State fans yesterday, once his name became public.

Death threats: check. Bombardment of employer with outrage?

Decker’s lawyer said Wednesday that his client is receiving death threats from irate Buckeye fans after college football blogs put his personal information online. The threats have been made to his cell phone, his e-mail, even to the title company where Decker works, they said. “They’ve been calling his supervisors ... and threatening him all day long,” said St. Petersburg defense attorney Sean McQuaid.

Aaand check again. Next up: poop in a cooler and mail it to his address, which people are posting wily-nilly on every Ohio State blog with comments or nobly letting everyone know that a quick google search turns up his address and phone number but allowing your "better judgment" to prevail and keeping the information to yourself. I know it's the internet, but uh ...

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August 19th, 2009 at 4:04 pm i want this guy spitting blood! its time to go to treasure island and burn down the gators sports bar with ralph in it!!

... that's one of three types of comments being left. The other two: egging on these guys and posts that specifically state they don't think anyone should harass this guy but did you know a quick Google search turns up his address, phone number, and fun biographical tidbits like his wedding invitation?

There's no lesson here unless you were under the misapprehension that a public relations campaign would change the dark underbelly of Ohio State fandom. It's the reasonable fans'—of which there are plenty—cross to bear.

Since there's no lesson, how about a question: is this responsible journalism? Is it newsworthy that the guy who punched Tyler Moeller has a name and is the kind of guy who hangs around bars punching people and racking up misdemeanor arrests? It doesn't sound like he deserves any sympathy, but at some point the news value of this guy's name is outweighed by the potential for further violence.

I'm not saying it is. I'm not saying it isn't. But I wonder if anyone thought about it.

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"Ohio State fans are noted for their decorum and perspective, at least insofar as they seem to totally lack both."

"the dark underbelly of Ohio State
fandom."

geeesh.

thanks a lot Brian.

every group of fans has their black sheep…  every one.
and based on this guys rap sheet he deserves every bit of crap that flies his way.
This all goes back to the fact that no other fanbase has taken so much crap as OSU fans have taken in the last 3 years.  It’s funny – everyone else acts like 5yr olds for 3 yrs and then they point out our fanbase for defending our own against a punk with a criminal track record.

Uh…   isn’t hamby still alive?

a lot of bark and not a lot of bite…   at least that is for our fans(not the tm mind you even though I know you’re thinking it)…  he!!, I haven’t seen a fight at an Ohio State game in 25 years.

seriously brian, thanks for (*^#%#%^ nothing.  If I had a dollar for every 17 year old fan that represented his team and his fanbase poorly, I could have bought the sporting news and espn and the Donald Trump empire.

It’s laughable after you consider what may be the fact behind this assault… which is some under-punished criminal Florida fan finding out there’s a ‘Buckeye’ in the house and starting (*#^%….  then waiting till he turns his head the slightest little bit and nearly KILLING HIM….   talk about us threatening to kill this guy….  look at Tylers freakin head!!

by buckifreak on Aug 20, 2009 5:20 PM EDT reply actions  

"Ohio State fans are noted for their decorum and perspective, at least insofar as they seem to totally lack both."

"the dark underbelly of Ohio State
fandom."

geeesh.

thanks a lot Brian.

every group of fans has their black sheep…  every one.
and based on this guys rap sheet he deserves every bit of crap that flies his way.
This all goes back to the fact that no other fanbase has taken so much crap as OSU fans have taken in the last 3 years.  It’s funny – everyone else acts like 5yr olds for 3 yrs and then they point out our fanbase for defending our own against a punk with a criminal track record.

Uh…   isn’t hamby still alive?

a lot of bark and not a lot of bite…   at least that is for our fans(not the tm mind you even though I know you’re thinking it)…  he!!, I haven’t seen a fight at an Ohio State game in 25 years.

seriously brian, thanks for (*^#%#%^ nothing.  If I had a dollar for every 17 year old fan that represented his team and his fanbase poorly, I could have bought the sporting news and espn and the Donald Trump empire.

It’s laughable after you consider what may be the fact behind this assault… which is some under-punished criminal Florida fan finding out there’s a ‘Buckeye’ in the house and starting (*#^%….  then waiting till he turns his head the slightest little bit and nearly KILLING HIM….   talk about us threatening to kill this guy….  look at Tylers freakin head!!

by buckifreak on Aug 20, 2009 5:24 PM EDT reply actions  

to quote Tom Berenger

"Well, I guess there’s only one thing left to do….
                   WIN THE WHOLE FRICKIN THING"

by buckifreak on Aug 20, 2009 5:25 PM EDT reply actions  

Let me get this straight….The SportingNews has a glorified story titled "Miami’s Back!" b/c a kid gets his jaw broken and now you say there should be more responsible journalism???  Give me a break.  As far as I’m concerned I hope some tOSU guy goes over there and whoops this guy up good. The guy wants to play with fire, let him burn.Fight on! 

by SailorGabe on Aug 20, 2009 5:44 PM EDT reply actions  

It’s a good thing we have a little thing in this country called Due Process, otherwise it sounds like our buddy Freak would get a few of his buds and go get some old-fashioned payback on this dude. That is after "you consider the fact behind this assault". Maybe we should just get up a lynch mob? Save the justice system the time? This guy is so clearly guilty. Why bother with it?

by CrimsonTider on Aug 20, 2009 5:45 PM EDT reply actions  

I frankly do not see the humor here.  Some guy sucker punches
a kid and leaves him with 3 holes drilled through his skull and you
think it is funny?  Wow.  This kid, who probably had a pro career in
front of him, will now probably never play football again because some
douche decided that he didn’t like Ohio State.  Decker is a trouble
maker and a liar and has been for years.  He lied to his attorney even,
who has the audacity to defend his lies. Funny, not one single witness
backed up his version of the story. Some fans may be going a little
overboard with their talk, but I am truly amazed that the State of Florida
could only bring a misdemeanor charge against a guy who has a history
of violence, is an idiot, and may have kept a kid from earning millions
of dollars.  Decker is a loser and a little fear isn’t going to hurt him and it probably won’t even stop him from doing it again.

by osubest on Aug 20, 2009 6:31 PM EDT reply actions  

best:1) We don’t know that the kid was sucker punched. This is the story his Mom is telling and that he is telling. It might be a good idea to let the system sort it out before you announce the findings.2) You need to read the article in today’s Columbus Dispatch. There IS a witness that says that the two men were jawing at each other and while he stops short of saying Moeller has any blame, he in no way suggests the Decker guy is 100% to blame either.3) Alcohol was clearly a factor and will be a consideration when sorting through everyone’s statements, including the uncle, the sister, the alleged perp, the witnesses, and so on.4) The charge is a misdemeanor but will be upgraded to felony if the police determine that the perp intended to do serious bodily harm.5) Be glad you never had your name out on the internet for everyone to decide your guilt or innocence before you had a chance to defend yourself. We have a little thing here called due process. Maybe you have heard of it.

by CrimsonTider on Aug 20, 2009 7:07 PM EDT reply actions  

Crimson Tider, you did notice that only one person got arrested, right?
And yes, they found one Gator fan that stuck up for Decker.  The rest
of the people all said he started it and sucker punched the kid. Do you
really think that if it was a fair fight, Moeller would have been knocked
out by him?  Hardly.  No one who knows Tyler Moeller would ever say
he is a fighter.  He is a tremendous kid. Decker on the other hand,
has a long history of fighting and punching.  He is a loud mouth bully
who revels in that sort of thing.  Did you get a look at his booking shot?
He couldn’t even wipe the grin off of his face for that.  He thinks he is
a star.  So now that he is getting a little heat, he is "afraid."  Wow,
maybe he should have thought of the consequences before he decided
to end a kid’s career and leave him with a permanent brain injury.
Sorry, I have no sympathy for Decker.  This is a way of life for him and
he chose the consequences.

by osubest on Aug 20, 2009 7:15 PM EDT reply actions  

"…Our honor defend, we’ll fight to the end for O-Hi-O."

F-U, Brian Cook.  F-U, CrimsonTired.

There is video on YouTube of Florida Gator fans lighting stuff on fire in the street after beating Ohio State, then getting their pictures taken with smiling Gainsville Firemen next to the fire truck.

And how could anyone forget this:  http://www.sportingnews.com/blog/the_sporting_blog/entry/view/14510/lsu-bama_game_leads_to_trash_talk,_homicide

We don’t need to take extra sh*t from you d-bags because there are angry Ohio State fans who ALLEGEDLY sent hate messages to a complete sh*thouse who NOT ALLEGEDLY, BUT DID end the season for one of our starting linebackers in a bar.

by BuckeyeXB on Aug 20, 2009 7:27 PM EDT reply actions  

Best:Yes, he got arrested. I am sure that means he’s guilty right? Oh and here’s another way of telling if he’s guilty—let’s look at his mugshot! I didn’t comment on what sort of kid Tyler Moeller is. I have no idea. He may be the best behaved kid who ever played college football. All I am saying is that is is ridiculous and absord for you or anyone else to pronounce this Decker guy guilty before you have the necessary information to do that. And no, it is NOT ok for OSU fans to be calling this guy at his office and on his cell phone and making death threats. Talkl about chicken s—t? That is the very definition of it.And this long history of fighting and punching you say Decker has? You might want to post it, because I have seen nothing like that. I saw a domestic violence CHARGE that was dropped and a few fishing violations. Maybe he punches the fish?

by CrimsonTider on Aug 20, 2009 8:17 PM EDT reply actions  

Best:Yes, he got arrested. I am sure that means he’s guilty right? Oh and here’s another way of telling if he’s guilty—let’s look at his mugshot! I didn’t comment on what sort of kid Tyler Moeller is. I have no idea. He may be the best behaved kid who ever played college football. All I am saying is that is is ridiculous and absord for you or anyone else to pronounce this Decker guy guilty before you have the necessary information to do that. And no, it is NOT ok for OSU fans to be calling this guy at his office and on his cell phone and making death threats. Talkl about chicken s—t? That is the very definition of it.And this long history of fighting and punching you say Decker has? You might want to post it, because I have seen nothing like that. I saw a domestic violence CHARGE that was dropped and a few fishing violations. Maybe he punches the fish?

by CrimsonTider on Aug 20, 2009 10:09 PM EDT reply actions  

TSN is The TMZ of sports. 

by Hippi-Kat on Aug 20, 2009 10:12 PM EDT reply actions  

Crimson, I live 5 miles from this jerk and my son lives 2 streets away
from him and it is common knowledge that he just randomly does
this kind of stuff.  If every incident turned into an arrest, he would
never see the light of day.  I seriously doubt that he has received
death threats.  That is his word, which obviously is not worth much.
If he is truly getting death threats, then go to the police and let them
take care of it. They can trace cell phone calls.  But he has not done that,which would make me think that once again, he is not telling the truth.  Calling his place of work is not cool and I would not condone that.
But your blowing off what he did is not cool either.  Do you realize that
this kid has permanent brain damage?  He will probably never get to
play football again and will be prone to seizures, more concussions,
etc. for the rest of his life because of this punk.  Did you see his booking picture?  He thinks he is a rock star because of what he did.
And now he is trying to get sympathy by claiming that the Big Bad
Buckeye Fans are coming to get him.  BS!  Prove it! At worst, maybe some of those phone calls will wipe that sh*t eating grin off his face.

by osubest on Aug 20, 2009 10:42 PM EDT reply actions  

This sounds about par for the course for O$U fans.

by intotheblue on Aug 20, 2009 11:13 PM EDT reply actions  

@Hippi-Kat: How is a story about fans accosting someone who assaulted an Ohio State player anything remotely like TMZ?

by littmann.tsn on Aug 20, 2009 11:21 PM EDT reply actions  

F*ck you Brian.

by 4silverrings on Aug 20, 2009 11:29 PM EDT reply actions  

Is Brian Cook someone that tSN hired from a temp agency as part of their cost cutting measures? If something like this had happened to an LSU or Florida player the perp would already be squealing like a pig tied down in some swamp rat’s airboat.  

Earth to Brian: If you want to find a real lack of perspective, look no further than your nearest mirror.

by markmaymustdie on Aug 20, 2009 11:57 PM EDT reply actions  

Once again, Brian Cook proves he’s a piece of **** with nothing but a 5-year old grudge.

  • you, Michigan fan.  **** you in your stupid ass.

by 5inaRow on Aug 21, 2009 1:00 AM EDT reply actions  

There is no condoning what was done to the Ohio State player.  I don’t think anyone is.  It should go without saying that every team’s fanbase has people who would respond with threats, phone calls, etc.  I don’t think that is peculiar to Ohio State.  However, there is no condoning that either.  Regarding the newspaper giving the name of the alleged assailant, every newpaper does that.  It is a matter of public, police records.  Any half-witted journalist can get the name, and if they get the name, it will be published.  I agree with CrimsonTider in that we have courts and a justice system.  Let them handle the issue.  Not only is there the possibility of a criminal case, but a civil case as well.  I am sure justice will be rendered one way or another.

by cadawg on Aug 21, 2009 2:33 AM EDT reply actions  

Best:I am not blowing anything off, and every indication in that this guy is a total D-bag. And it’s probably just common sense that you sjhouldn’t have a stupid grin on your face when you have your mugshot taken (and YES I have seen it). I knew guys like this when I was in my 20s, and they are just typically looking for ways to vent testosterone.As far as permanent brain damage goes, I don’t know where you read that. I know he had surgery a couple of weeks ago, but I thought every indication was that it was successful. His Mom believes he will play again and surely OSU will apply for and get a medical redshirt.Alcohol appears to not only be a factor in the Decker portion of the incident, but with witnesses as well. My guess is that Decker’s attorneys won’t have too much problem raising some sort of reasonable doubt as to the chain of events that led to the actual "sucker punch". I would guess he won’t serve much time (30 days maybe?). But it will seriously screww this guy’s life up. This guy is a pariah now and this will follow him around for many years to come. Deservedly.Nevertheless, as ridiculous as it may seem, even the most ardent fans aren’t doing anyone a service if they threaten the guy because that will make him more sympathetic to a jury.

by CrimsonTider on Aug 21, 2009 8:41 AM EDT reply actions  

Crimson,
I don’t think you understand the seriousness of his head injury.
He has now had 3 holes drilled through his skull.  Those are permanent
holes that won’t reclose. Your brain is a mass that the skull protects.
Would YOU like to get hit hard to see what happens with that? Not to mention that people who have suffered a severe concussion are 70% more likely to suffer another one when hit than those who have not had one. And now they are finding out that people with head concussions such as his are 3 times more likely than normal to get Alzheimers
and other brain abnormalities.  He hit hard enough that he had enough
bleeding on his brain to require drilling thru his skull to relieve the pressure and swelling.  I don’t know about you, but if I were a university, I would not want the responsibility of ever letting that kid on the field again. I am sure his mother is staying upbeat for his sake. Ohio State will honor his scholarship the next two years but I bet you a nickel he will never see the field again.  All because some dumb A-hole wanted to
show what a big shot he was.  And to your point – I am sure that the court system will take care of him.  And I doubt his lies are going to hold up in court. Too many people saw what happened and have already told the cops the truth. These were Florida people even, who didn’t see it the way he told it. Only one of his buddies told it the other way. As for the threats – let him prove it.  I don’t see him taking his happy ass down to the police with his cell phone so they can hear them.  I would rather think he is being his usual self and lying.  He’s got nothing better to do these days.

by osubest on Aug 21, 2009 10:02 AM EDT reply actions  

Well, first of all, I been reading everything I can on this.  And if this Decker sucker punch Tyler Moller to the point, that Tyler Moller had to have head Surgery then hey, maybe he needs to have the crap scare out of him.  then again if he telling his lawyer this, why are we not hearing from the local police down there about this? There are laws against certain forms of harassment. Maybe from what I heard about this Decker, maybe the local law down there, allowing him to sweat so he might learn a lesson who knows.

As for Brian Kelly calling Assault and Battery a "misdemeanor arrests".  Far as I know most Assault and Batteries are classified an Felony.  Serious jail time.  And if this Decker has had arrest before, well anything he does outside of speeding tickets are going to be classified Felonies.

Do your research will ya!

by Buckspa on Aug 21, 2009 10:38 AM EDT reply actions  

The tonality is sensational, not factual. Also, the subject matter really isn’t anything to make light of. Lots of conjecture, very little substance.

by Hippi-Kat on Aug 21, 2009 12:26 PM EDT reply actions  

"Ohio State fans are noted for their decorum and perspective, at least insofar as they seem to totally lack both."

Nothing like painting with that broad sweeping brush, eh?  I noticed you backed off a touch later in the article by stating "It’s the reasonable fans’—of which there are plenty—cross to bear."  Where was that latter comment in the first 2/3 of you article?  Nowhere… check.

Nice piece of infintile journalism. 

As for media publishing names….. how about the media publishing names (and in some cases home addresses, where their children go to school, etc.) of folks who work for companies that are getting large bonuses all in the name of populism; of people who’ve commited no crimes, nor been charged with anything?  Do you intend to fight the good fight there as well? 

Is it even newsworthy that this guys name was published?  Or is it only newsworthy enough for you to take some shots at OSU’s fanbase?

 

by simplesolution on Aug 21, 2009 12:31 PM EDT reply actions  

CrimsonTired,  why don’t you go worry about your fans murdering LSU fans, like what happened in November of last season.  Please leave the Buckeye dealings to trained professionals.  Thank you for your time, though not for your insight.

by BuckeyeXB on Aug 21, 2009 1:16 PM EDT reply actions  

simplesolution, I think Cook is offering himself up as a replacement for Decker as Buckeye’s most-hated.  People are starting to talk about this sh*tcan article on other blogs.

by BuckeyeXB on Aug 21, 2009 1:18 PM EDT reply actions  

I wonder how many death threats Cook gets after writing this article.   HaHaHa  -

by rwcole on Aug 21, 2009 3:50 PM EDT reply actions  

Brian Cook, you lied about me in this article.  I expect a retraction and an apology.

You linked to my blog, The Buckeye Battle Cry, with a sentence that discusses death threats and bombardments of Ralph Decker’s employer.

You also stated that his address was being posted on "every Ohio State blog".

Not on mine, sir.  Not on mine.

At no time on any page of my blog were there EVER comments made about death threats or calling Decker’s employer.  Hell, a quick search of the entire blog shows that I have been making LOTS of attempts to discuss allowing the law to do their job.

The ONLY information about Decker I have ever posted has been his name and his criminal record, which was posted to show that he is NOT a good guy.

I specifically and intentionally refused to allow ANY comments about his address or phone number to be published on The BBC.

Furthermore, you posted a quote about someone wishing to see Decker spitting blood, and you posted that comment directly after one of your links to my website.  That is misleading at best and NOWHERE on my blog did a comment of that sort EVER appear on The Buckeye Battle Cry.

Comments on my site are moderated, and never was anything like that posted on The BBC.  Unlike your Michigan blog, I do not allow such comments.

I do recall last week, however, when your blog had several commenters claiming that cocaine use was not such a bad thing, right after Michigan’s latest failed QB was kicked off the team for participating in a coke deal that turned into arson.

I expect a retraction and an apology immediately.

by Jeff_at_The_BBC on Aug 21, 2009 4:26 PM EDT reply actions  

@Jeff — I want to apologize, because a simple HTML mistake on my end made it look like we were attributing that comment to your blog, when in reality, Brian pulled it from www.ourhonordefend.com. I had an open tag that sucked some of that block quote into a black hole. My apologies. For what it’s worth, the inflammatory comment that Brian referenced was eventually removed from Our Honor Defend by their moderator, which was obviously the right thing to do.

Thanks,
CL

by littmann.tsn on Aug 21, 2009 4:40 PM EDT reply actions  

Gee, thanks for writing this article Brian, because, as an OSU fan, I think I can safely say we had NO IDEA how a hardcore Michigan fan would weigh in on this incident.

Yes, that sound you heard was Professor Frink’s sarcasm machine asploding.

by PantsMcPants1 on Aug 21, 2009 7:49 PM EDT reply actions  

littmann.tsn – Thanks for the apology.  I do appreciate it.

Could you change the attribution, though?  It still appears that the comments came from The BBC and they did not.

by Jeff_at_The_BBC on Aug 21, 2009 10:36 PM EDT reply actions  

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