Mark McGwire Did Steroids, Now Let the Cheaters in the Hall of Fame

I agree Shoeless Joe Jackson and Pete Rose (especially) should be in the Hall of Fame, but I completely disagree when you talk about steroid users being inducted. What message is that sending to young athletes? The reason for steroids is to perform at a greater level, which in turn earns them more fame and a larger contract. If you can use steroids, gain popularity and wealth, and still get into the Hall of Fame, what message is that sending the youth? Whatever it takes. Steroids are illegal, and therefore, steroid users should be punished for their actions. They should be banned from the Hall of Fame.

Ban these Roid heads. Send the message that they will not be tolerated.

would you ban the players from the 70’s who used ampehtemines, or how about these hyocritcal baseball writers, who vote in a admitted cheater, gaylord perry, who bragged about throwing a spit ball, or how about dennis eckersley, who used to be a drunk, his own admission, or how about early writers who voted in ty cobb, who was a known racsit.  These writers never seemed to have a problem with morals, and or only now coming around to it, and oh by the way when mcgwire played, steroids and androsteindione were legal in baseball, and they weren’t banned until 2002

 Let them in… but they should have to perform a great feat of strength at the presentation ceremony. The goal here is to get it so that the players have to do several cycles of the chronic steroids before attending. Then, as they take the stage with no shirt, they have to rip a New York City phone book in half or bite through a junkyard dog chain.

If they can do the trick, they get in… no questions asked. If they fail, they have to walk out of Cooperstown while people throw garbage at them.

They cheated to get up to the Hall… they should have to EARN getting in.

No…it is NOT time to let cheaters into the HOF…not now, not ever!

The cheaters got their reward with the tons of money that they were paid as a result of their cheating…the applause of the crowds…the multi-million endorsements…and all that goes with these things.

They took the quick and easy way to make the big bucks and win the acclaim of the crowds…and that is all that they deserve.

They do not deserve to be inducted into the HOF with those who earned their way in as a result of their hard work and accomplishments.

Both he and Harry Reid are ’truly sorry" on the very same day. oh ok, lets just forget everything. Sorry they got caught, not sorry they did it or said it. Thats what sorry means today.

I don’t know if this is what Dan Levy is trying to say or not, but nothing is sacred in baseball anymore.  Maybe what he’s trying to say is that now that we know so many players were juiced, but, since we don’t know for sure which ones, that we should just assume that most players have been cheating all this time.  The real point here is that records in baseball don’t even matter anymore.I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again….it took a player 30 years to break Ruth’s home run record and the 30 more for McGwire to do it.   However; it wasn’t just McGwire.  It was Sosa and Bonds.  A record that stood for years was suddenly being broke year after year.  It was obvious something changed and now that I know what it was, I simply don’t care anymore.  It’s only a matter of time before every record is broken by a juiced player.  So, yeah, give them the record and the hall because neither of them mean anything to me anymore.

          The HOF is for people that will be remembered far after they finish playing game.So they should let Mcgwire,Rose,Shoeless Joe and anyone else that is still talked about after their playing days.But on their plaque should be noted that they cheated or gambled on the sport or whatever they did wrong. That way fans years from know will know what type of people theses scumbags really were in life.

I think you have to have standards and you can’t keep backsliding. These players did things that damage the game and in no way should we keep lowering the standard. They knew what they did was wrong and they made the choice to do what they did anyway. Forgiving these players doesn’t mean we throw out the standards.

Let them in, but built a separate wing to the Hall and name it "those whose put up gaudy stats and whose integrity some have and may deem "questionable". Too much? OK then. KEEP THEM OUT!

pete rose should be in and we all know it for a fact.

Anyone who followed Mcgwires career while he was in Oakland knew he was doing something. Look at his rookie card and then fast forward 10 years, the change was dramatic and no amount of weight lifting/diet could have brought that kind of change. At the time the media and baseball didn’t care as long as they got what they wanted: A good story to bring the public back after the BS strike that alienated quite a few fans. They didn’t care when he was bashing HR’s and breaking records and they have no right to care now.

Who cares baseball sucks. 

Barry Bonds was twice the player McGuire ever was….

In my opinion McGwire should be in the hall of fame. Let’s remember that as a rookie in 1987 he hit 49 homeruns, so the steroids helped but he had the power or talent to hit them. Also when this guys used steroids it wasn’t a banned substance by MLB, by this i’m not saying steroids are good because i’m against them in every way and i’m glad they’re suspending players that uses them and hope they continue with this policy, BUT still it wasn’t illegal at the time so technically what they did wasn’t illegal.

The Hall of Fame is a museum.  McGwire, Pete, Shoeless Joe, Bonds, Clemens…they all belong in Cooperstown.  They were all huge historical figures in their respective eras.  If you want a holy shrine, go to the Vatican or Mecca.

If Big Head Bonds is allowed in the Hall of Fame then McGwire should get in there. However, in my opinion, neither of them belong there.  Both are cheaters….but at least McGwire finally had the courage to admit it.

And, for the record, the Home Run King is Hank Aaron and the single season home run record holder is Roger Maris.  Until a ’roid free player beats the records of Aaron and Maris they should be considered the record holders. 

Steroids or not, Mc Gwire is not a HOFer.  He hit a bunch of homers, but that is it.  He has about as many strikeouts as hits, and he was a below average fielder.  The HOF is supposed to be a special place for special players.  Mcgwire’s career just does not add up. 

LSUSMCR is right.  The only special thing about McGwire’s career is that few years when he hit so many home runs.  Otherwise he was a good, but not great player who probably would be a marginla HOF candidate at best.  So to put him in would be purely rewarding him for taking roids.

McGwire nor Clemens nor Bonds should be allowed anywhere near the HOF….  ..and in the next ten yrs… elect Griffey.. he’s the only current power hitter who belongs..  In fact Griffey should be celebrated to the max for his accomplishments.. esp in light of his injuries he suffered.. (see McGwire)

Hey PABGAR, steroids were illegal to use and possess in the US without a prescription so that they weren’t banned by baseball is irrelevent. McGwire doesn’t belong in the HOF, he has one number that stands out, 583 HRs and that number is tainted. His .263 average and good but not great runs and RBI totals (also tainted) don’t measure up.

I agree with the comments about Perry who was very boastful about cheating. I know that’s inside the lines and that’s different. Still they’ve banned greenies in the alst couple of eyars and EVERY single player before then was taking them. Steriods weren’t against against MLB rules anyway so it’s not like he was breaking any baseball rules. Then if we use their illegiality in the real world we’d have to then kick out every player who used coke all the time in the 80’s (read: everyone).

How about this: remove all HOF inductees from the last 30 years and replace them all with one person:  Dr. John Ziegler.

steelheadr, there were a couple others who aren’t looked at as ‘roiders.  Along with Griffey, Frank Thomas and Jim Thome pass the "eye" test.  I’m not a White Sox fan, just those two are the first to come to mind.