Black College Football Head Coaches: Hey, Now There Are Some!

but when will there be one legged,Asian midget women coaching?

If John Thompson is still working somewhere, he should count as 1.7 black coaches, due to his great physical presence.

I want to know what Jaek thinks…?

I think the existing comments show how much anyone cares about this as a "real issue".

If coaches have the ability to get the job done , they get hired. AD’s need wins and pro owners need wins and if Klingons could win national championships they would be well represented in the coaching ranks.  

so i guess that’s why chan gailey keeps getting hired.

same old game if you are a minority coach you will have to take the worst job possible at best you can hope for louisville, but this is more comfort than racism AD’s are more comfortable with people that look like them and will continue to hire them in that capacityalong with talent. In ten years maybe with people living in more diverse areas this stuff will change 

jmac2000 you hit it perfectly. To the "smart-ass" who suggests that even "Klingons" would get hired I present to you exhibit A: Chan Gailey!!!! What has HE done to warrant job after job???? Be careful before you answer because a few posts ago you suggested that WINNING somehow factors in. If so, then "qualify" the Gailey hiring because winning certainly isn’t involved in THAT equation. Listen, blacks want to see good football too so we are not saying go out and give ANY job to ANY black no not at all but we are asking that you include blacks in the ranks of the coaches because there are those who should/could be good coaches. I’m from Louisville so I’ve seen this issue up close. They hired Ron Cooper, he was TERRIBLE and the program hit the bottom. alright, fire his ass!!!!! Don’t let the Cardinal on the door hit you in the ass on your way out!!!! John Smith came in and saved the program. us blacks were totally ok with that. If the black coach isn’t a good coach then get rid of him but at least give SOME the opportunity. We really hope that Charlie Strong works out because our team has went from a very good BCS Bowl game winning team to one of the worst teams in the country in ONLY THREE YEARS under Steve Kragthorpe. (Oh by the way, Steve Kragthorpe is white!!!!!)

The black Klingons in the later Star Trek movies with the bald guy as the captain are proof positive that Spock f*cked Uhuruh. Nothing else is, as they say, logical.

Wasn’t Joker Phillips named Rich Brooks’ successor-in-waiting a couple years ago?

Every time a black coach gets hired P.C white guilt writers completely focus on the race of the coach and ignore anything they have done in coaching.
They write these condescending little articles that insult the intelligence of all races. Act like "minority coaches" are like special retards who have got some disability and how "evil white sports directors" have denied them jobs.

Well there arent any asian ,hispanic or transvestite coaches either.
There isnt much diversity in the playing staff of teams. Its only blacks who  need to be emotionally babied by all these sad do-gooders.

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another wasted story on the same non-topic

First of all sinner78 blacks dont need to be coddled on this issue it’s a legit argument that in a sport where most of the players are black yet they only make up 1% of coaching. You are right on the nature of this article though interesting that the writer would use the word kind as if something was given. Another thing you dont get to decide for other people what their concern is, it might be a non story to you but it’s big deal to others like me. Competent blacks deserve the same chance for a job as competent whites but if they dont get it done deserve to be fired the same which is why randy shannon is on the hot seat right now

To those with comments about asians or any other people not represented you dont see many of them on the feild either so it’s a bad comparison try again

I’m not sure I buy all this.  Best qualified for the job usually gets it.  As long as we have any ethnic group claiming discrimination, it will always exist.  Racism has become an excuse b/c it’s easy…not necessarily b/c it exists in any given situation.

Blacks comprise a minority of the population, but a majority of the football athletes.  Blacks are therefore more comitted to and/or better at the game of football than whites.  This is widely accepted.

Evidently, however, a similar line of argument is not be pursued with regard to whites and coaching.  But why is that?  I for one do not know.

But I’d sure like to see some comprensive data to justify the continual reappearance and sinister undertones of this story.  Moreover, let’s see the press actually use that data to identify the bad guys for once.

That’s when we’ll know that the writers and pundits are serious about this issue.  As it is, it just seems like a template story that’s written over and over to placate the forces of conventional wisdom and political correctness. 

And what good does that do…for anyone?!?!

 Best qualified for the usually gets it is BS average white coaches get second jobs before young blacks get a shot which is why we see people like chan gailey. Your answer of people claiming discrimination is the problem and not the actual discrimination is nonsense but as I said before this is more a problem of comfort with people with the same backround than outright racism. 
    To Hyacinth House that whole post is just crazy talk the poor class of any society is always better at the more dangerous sports because they have less to lose hence the amount of great jewish and italien boxers in the early days of the US along with the euro basketball players of today who are not told they cant make it like white kids in the USA

Re: Malcolm Chomsky:

You say there is a disproportionate number of blacks in football because "the poor class of any society is always better at the more dangerous sports because they have less to lose."
 
Fine.

Then why are there so many blacks in college basketball?  That’s not a dangerous sport.
Or in college Track and Field?  That’s not a dangerous sport, either.

Affluent white people have little to lose participating in basketball or track.  Yet, there are still disproportionate numbers of black ladies and gentlemen in these sports.  And they perform magnificently.

I suspect that blacks are in fact more comitted to/better than these activities than others.  That’s why they make the team.  And I suspect the same goes for football.

Your argument is ineffective.

Isn’t it great that we have a media keeping count of every black coach that is hired, they must feel so much better about themselves.  What really needs to be addressed is the lack of white running backs and wide receivers in football.  Also, with all the spread offenses now there are diminishing white numbers at QB too!

Prod im sure you would like to believe it’s just the media but this conversation goes on in barbershops all over the country. Hyacinth real good post but it does not change my argument the subject was dangerous sports now if you wanna switch to track or basketball fine. I would say we celebrate the jackie robinson’s of the world because they break barriers there will be more white athletes in the nba and track soonwho will be looked at like jackie I think the problem is when you dont see many people who look like you it stops a lot of people from chasing that goal but as normal as it is oi see kids of different colors at the same school that lack of confidense will be gone. Thats what I think what I know is Larry, Jerry west,Nash,Dirk all  get it done so no i dont believe that any race makes  better athletes and when you consider most athletic white kids in america  play baseball you cant really judge them on something they are not chasing

Norm Chomsky, it is the media and people like yourself that are keeping count, the rest of the country only cares about winning no matter what their coach looks like.  My comments about the lack of whites in certain postions is sarcasm.  If political correctness did not rule the day, making sure they shut up real conversation about race, we could all agree that blacks run faster and jump higer than most other races.  Not racist, just a fact and as far as baseball, most blacks do not want anything to do with the sport any more, they would rather play football or basketball.

Look prod the main problem you are having is confusing opinion with fact  a lot of people think blacks run faster and jump higher that doesn’t make it true much in the same way they think all Asians are good at math and other dumb ideas like that. Then you showed the same blinders with your perspective of it’s just people like myself who think a certain way then you lie by saying I didn’t include performance in my thinking of course winning is always more important but to ignore things when they are wrong is coward behavior. For example if the bills hired schottenheimer or cowher it wouldn’t be a problem but the fact that gailey gets a head job after being fired from his last two before others get a first shot  means people are not paranoid it’s as plain as day you just choose not to see it.

Much like we took the biggest, strongest blacks out of Africa to tend to the sugarcane and cotton, and then weeded out the weaklings on the Middle Passage… we trolled Europe looking for really well-organized guys to run eifficient, profit-generating farms and factories. The lesser white guys were weeded out by Capitalism. Now we have a NBA stocked with their descendants. For 50 years or so, we have been valuing athleticism over fundamentals. Rightfully so… I can drive my Volvo really well, but I’m not going to win the Daytona 500 in it.So, the NBA is taking in guys for physical traits. These guys don’t have to study book-learnin’ that hard, because they only need one year of school. They are millionaires at 23, so they don’t really have to work on any social skills beyond hiring an accountant and throwing money at strippers. They retire at 35 or so, and have little motivation to keep travelling with the circus. They’d (ex-NBA players) make rotten coaches.No one offered Karl Malone a coaching job when he retired. No one offered John Stockton one, either.What you want is a Bellichick…. a kid who grew up wanting to do nothing other than coach. White guys are more likely to have role models in that regard. Still, there’s kids out there now who think Doc Rivers rules, and those kids will grow up one day.In fact, the numbers are actually sort of encouraging. Before 1965 or so, there was no black NBA coach out there for a black any kid to look up to. Once Bill Russell and Lenny Wilkins and Al Attles started coaching, kids had coaches they could relate to. Since then, blacks make up a greater % of coaches in the NBA than they do a % of the US population.And that number goes up if you count Vinny Del Negro. Larry Brown’s name will appease a really dumb Mexican, too.

The reason black athletes succeed in basketball, track, baseball, and football is because those are the sports available to them. Poor minorities generally grow up in the inner city where they have basketball courts and ball diamonds. If they lived out in the suburbs and had access to tennis courts and country clubs there would be more Tiger Woods and Williams sisters in those sports as well. And most importantly, unlike thier white counterparts whose parents will pay the tuition to get them to college, the black athlete is more commited to sports because they see it as a way out.

Good post Paul brown to the MOI guy what you are saying sounds good in theory but there is nothing proven there the NBA is a different story with coaching because basketball is about motivation then strategy while football is the other way. So Doc is a great coach because guys play for him  when it comes to X’s and Os’s teams know what everybody else runs so the NBA is about having motivated better talent. As far as coaching being about the less athletic guys that’s true and there are a lot of blacks who cant cut it athletically who pursue coaching the same way as whites and if they are good deserve a shot the same way.  Your whole idea of the middle passage weeding out the weaklings is just dumb it was more of pack as many as you can so the survivors are just the guys that made it. Also the strongest argument is off because the slaves they bought were warriors who lost a war and the slaves that were captured were the tribes pushed to live on the coast by stronger tribes and if this nonsense you stated  was true we would be importing all pro talent from Africa

The guys who survived the Middle Passage were the strongest of the strong. If you were a slave trader, would you buy weak slaves? Of course not. The true weeding happened on the African shore, but the ships also eliminated weaker victims. The ones they couldn’t sell were sacrificed in something known as the Annual Custom.

We did import our all pro sports talent from Africa, Malcolm… we just did it in the 1700s. It would be interesting to check every black in every sport to see who came here via slave ships against who immigrated willingly. Remember…we only took 10-20 million slaves into America… a roughly equal number were shipped out via the Red Sea and Indian Ocean. Many more slaves were kept by the Africans themselves.

Africa has nothing left to give the sports world, aside from marathon runners and World Cup quarterfinalists. They were bled dry by the slave trade.

Know that only half of the slaves came via African-on-African military conquest… the other half came from the poor/crazy/criminal sections of the slave trading African country.

Don’t get too upset by my comment, though. The whole thing started with me thinking up the Vinny Del Negro joke, and I just filled in backwards from the last line. While the best humor has truth in it, my goal was an extended setup for the VDN joke.

Still…the only blatantly untrue part was the part about really organized Europeans. I just made that one up. The exact opposite is true.

Very interesting turn this topic has taken but your argument of Africa makes no sense there are a lot of tribes with 100% African blood so again I say if what you said was true they would be imported for sports.  The other way your argument falls apart is the slave trade was not a choice of quality it was quantity because they knew only so many would live, these trips were for profit so they grabbed what they could you also make the mistake of saying they came from crazy areas not true slavery in Africa was different from what the euros had they lived more like the serfs of Europe the slavery created in America was a different monster and the Africans did not know the treatment the men they sold would endure not to say that they weren’t bastards for what they did but there was a difference 

A) The purity of African blood was never questioned. We never imported white people there (aside from the Boers), you fool.

We took hundreds of thousands of slaves into the US, and those slaves had children for hundreds of years… that’s more than enough to stock 3 major sports, one hip-hop industry, and 1,000 prisons. Why import people who don’t speak the language and don’t play the sport, unless an African soccer coach stumbles across an Olajuwon?

Look at it like the NFL draft. Someone’s going to draft Tim Tebow from Florida. The guys left at Florida will still be Gators, but they will now have no Tim Tebow. More Qbs will pop up, but there will be more drafts, too. Likewise, if we "draft" the healthy adult males into slavery, we’re taking the healthy adult males out of that particular area of Africa. The people left behind will still be Africans, Malcolm.

B)  Again, we mined Africa for the stronger members of the tribes there.
Farming cotton and sugarcane is hard work. If you’re shopping for slaves to do this backbreaking labor in the tropics, you’re not going to be like "Give me that asthmatic one… and that one with the crushed foot… and that malnourished guy." You take the ones who you think best stand a chance of surviving the Middle Passage, and ones you think you can sell in Virginia or Brazil afterwards.

While quantity has a quality all its own, you also want to fill that hold with whatever you think will turn the best profit. The ghastly death tolls of the Middle Passage are more a matter of the conditions on the ship than of traders grabbing people with tuberculosis.

The Africans are presenting you with entire captured tribes and a fine smattering of their poor and criminal classes… all culled from hard-working farmers and hunters… you’re gonna be able to get enough strong men, women and children to stock a clipper ship.

C) As for the crazy reference, it makes perfect sense. If you could make a profit while concurrently emptying prisons and taking the insane off the streets, you’d do so. It’s also a nice way of losing your poor people, especially when the work they did is now being performed by slaves you’ve kept for yourselves. Poor people have this tendency to revolt.

D) The slaves that the Euros/Americans wouldn’t buy were frequently sacrificed or executed in large numbers. Others were kept by the Africans themselves as slaves. Granted… ideally, these poor people would have been left alone and not kidnapped… but as bad as harvesting sugar cane is, it beats having your throat slit in the Annual Custom ritual.

Malcolm Chomsky… you share first and last names with great intellectuals… try thinking before you post next time.

I’m pretty sure that the frenchie is one of my all-time favorite posters. The Larry Brown line killed me. Of course, I’m latino, so it may not be as funny to others. As far as all of this other stuff goes… yeah the legacy of slavery is the reason there are so many black athletes. Seems pretty obvious to me. I’ll worry about the fairness of it all when the other minority races are given the same federal booster chairs.

"My science is deep… my blackness is deep."

So you use rumors support your ideas first you say it was the strongest people then when that didn’t fly you say they imported the poor and the crazy. What it comes down to is you want that to be the explanation so bad you cant see the forest for the tree’s eugenics died as a theory years ago by your thinking Kobe and Lisa Leslie having a kid would be an instant hall of famer but it’s just not true you ever seen jordans kid play basketball? Genes don’t work in absolutes.

    Your euro-centric view of history is laughable you speak of them mining Africa as if the slave trade was a complicated matter when in reality it was an endeavor of quantity which is why they were packed the way they were but I’m done with this there is no need to argue with somebody using outdated refuted information.  Jaek you show me these federal booster chairs because I haven’t seen em a more realistic explanation would be athletics are settled on the field there is no backroom where decisions are made like the corporate world which means more blacks will go after something they view as attainable.

Kobe and Lisa Leslie having a kid does not guarantee a HOF offspring…. but it is a near certain guarantee of a big, strong kid… and this is the point I think you’re missing in our slave trade discussion, Malcolm.

You’re applying too much thought into my views of how slaves were traded, while concurrently underestimating the intelligence of the Africans and Euro/Ams running the slave trade back in the day.

They didn’t hold a NFL scouting combine on the shores of Angola or anything, my friend. They just took the bigger/healthier/stronger ones, as they were more likely to fetch a better price in Brazil or Virginia.

And leave Jaek alone… he gave me a compliment  :-D

The funniest thing about this is that you are so sure about it working why don’t Stern and Goodell make you a consultant? match em up with tennis players and the wnba and there it is lebron’s and Dwight freeney’s all over the leagues.  I’m not applying anything to your statement about the trade because what you are saying is just not true either way I’m done talking about this interesting conversation though