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Brian Kelly Isn't Recruiting Like Charlie Weis. Isn't That The Point?

Now that it's over and done, the strangest thing about Charlie Weis' tenure as Notre Dame's head coach was that a career NFL assistant who made his name on Xs and Os was a demonic recruiter but inept at all the technical details that make football players not terrible. This set Weis up for epic failure, since by year four of his regime he was rolling around with epically talented teams that did things like lose to Syracuse.

Brian Kelly, on the other hand, created a BCS team out of hay and a spare mannequin arm. He's been a college head coach going on 20 years. He could not be more different from Weis if you had constructed him entirely for that purpose ... and his recruiting is off to a somewhat rocky start. Notre Dame has lost commitments from a couple of touted recruits—Indiana DE Blake Leuders and Florida RB Giovanni Bernard—since Kelly's hire and lost mega-DE Chris Martin to Cal when Weis got fired.

Meanwhile, the guys they've picked up and gone after since then have not exactly been blue chips. They grabbed Austin Collinsworth—yes, Cris Collinsworth's son—and are probably going to get a couple of anonymous quarterback recruits named Luke Massa and Derek Roback. Roback is a Toledo commit; Massa was a Cincinnati commit. These guys are not Jimmy Clausen and they're odd additions to a class that already has two quarterbacks. Though Notre Dame is still in on a few big fish, they're probably not going to get any of them other than Ohio offensive lineman Matt James.

So ... yeah. Notre Dame's recruiting appears to be taking a step back from the days of Weisian rampage in favor of more three-star sorts that Kelly figures will fit in his system. As per usual, the Nation is not happy:

Don't get me wrong, I think this class, right now, is scary, especially when paired with last years. That said, if there's one undersold market in college football it's recruiting kids who play different positions. …

Kelly told ND he was going to do just that and it appears he's doing it... I just hope it's not going to be at the expense of recruiting kids who are already standouts at their positions. This is not justifying the overall class, I'm noting some areas that I think Kelly has already screwed up for a post signing day column.

Nervous in DC

The overall tenor there is one of concern and alarm. But… isn't this what you wanted? Okay, probably not. You wanted a thunderous combination of Urban Meyer, Nick Saban, and Bob Stoops. But given what we know about Brian Kelly's ability to find gold in scrap metal and Charlie Weis' inability to do anything other than bloviate, maybe judgment should be reserved. Or you could give him a 10-year contract for losing to USC, I guess.

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It’s a sad day when Italians like Giovanni Bernard spurn a Catholic school for Florida sun.

by L'etat, c'est moi on Jan 27, 2010 5:52 PM EST reply actions  

Brian, not to be too critical, but could you maybe have put the loss of recruits in some perspective? How well have other major programs fared during transitions? Is three decommits higher or lower than average? As an Irish fan, I’m pretty unconcerned – I’m in the camp that thinks that Kelly himself was our most important get this season – but I’d like to see some comparison and analysis. I know printing vitriol from the Nation is easy and frequently entertaining (those guys are scary crazy) but I kind of expect slightly higher discourse here.

by protocoach on Jan 27, 2010 6:40 PM EST reply actions  

I will never cease to be amused by B. Cook’s devoted vigilence when monitoring the myopic, knee-jerk reactions on NDNation’s message boards, while ignoring or actively encouraging activity of the same type on his own blog’s boards.  Let it never be said that sports hate is not the purest, most irrational form of hate.

by eirishis on Jan 28, 2010 10:56 AM EST reply actions  

@eirishis

You call shutting down the message boards to all but the most trusted users on his blog after losses to Illinois and Ohio State ignoring or encouraging knee-jerk reactions?

Your description of Brian could not be further off the mark. He actively disdains that type of activity, which is why his blog has such stringent rules re: posting.

I think your reaction to this post is the same kind of knee-jerk reaction that you accuse Mr. Cook of ignoring or actively encourageing

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by MCHammer3420 on Jan 28, 2010 11:08 AM EST reply actions  

@MCHammer:

(a) So, trusted users don’t have kneejerk reactions?  Last I checked, the guys at NDNation are frequent posters too.  Even those who are rational 90% of the time go off the reservation occasionally.  That said, since a more frequent critique of Brian is that he shuts off debate (his site, his right), your response is fair and I concede.

(b) The point of my post, however, was to point out that Brian’s hate of ND leads to fairly obsessive/irrational monitoring of NDNation message boards as if they accurately represent ND’s fan base.  I read Brian’s blog because, though I dislike Michigan, I appreciate his writing and insight.  Brian reads NDNation for little purpose than to ridicule opposing fans.  There’s a difference.

by eirishis on Jan 28, 2010 12:40 PM EST reply actions  

Just an opinion, but the top eschelon of BCS teams like, USC, UF, OU, LSU, OSU etc have a combination of very talented 4 & 5 Star recruits and a great staff of assistants who develope that talent over 4-5 years—and sometimes only 3 years when they leave early for the NFL.

Reading about Kelly’s history shows he has a good eye for talent (Dan Lefeavour-Pike— Mardy Gilyard etc), he has a staff who can certainly develope it and he had been actually getting some 4 star talent at Cincy recently.

As long as he competes with all of the other top programs for the 3-4-5 Star talent from his new position at Notre Dame, he should make them very competitive.

This year—"it is what it is" as far as trying to close out a recruiting class that he inherited after two 6-6 seasons and a 3-9 one before that.

If he shows real progress and excitement this Fall—-all that bad history will fade quickly and they should do very well for the 2011 class of recruits and going forward.

by CollegeFootball#1 on Jan 29, 2010 8:29 PM EST reply actions  

I wouldn’t worry too much about losing recruits this year.  If it is only three recruits, that’s not too bad.  If he has a 7 win season or better this year, the recruits will come pouring in.  I bet he turns ND around in 3 years or less.  The schedule is a little tougher this year, so I wouldn’t expect 9 wins.  UC won 33 games in the last 3 years, he’ll figure out a way to do that at ND with better talent.

by Hillbilly Deluxe on Feb 1, 2010 2:52 PM EST reply actions  

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