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by Adam Jacobi • May 1, 2010 8:23 PM EDT
Here's what a South Bend television station said yesterday:
A source in St. Louis familiar with the situation told NewsCenter 16 Thursday afternoon that Missouri will leave the Big XII and soon join the Big 10. Other schools expected to follow the Tigers are Syracuse, Pitt, Rutgers and Nebraska.
It would be foolish to take this report at face value. First of all, this isn't the first time anonymous sources have reared their heads in the expansion talks. Remember when the Lawrence Journal-World reported that Big Ten was targeting Texas? Squashed. And when the Chicago Tribune reported that the Big Ten was operating on an accelerated schedule and that an announcement was imminent? Squashed. And when Colin Cowherd reported that UConn was a lock? Squashed.
So when a South Bend television station (at a school that doesn't even join the conference in this scenario, mind you) purports to have the break on the final expansion picture, well, we owe it to ourselves to find the report dubious at best.
Further, the wording of the second half of the report--"Other schools expected to follow the Tigers are Syracuse, Pitt, Rutgers and Nebraska"--is so vague that it's effectively meaningless. Expected by whom? How is this any different from run-of-the-mill speculation (or, in less polite terms, guessing)?
This isn't to say that Missouri won't join the Big Ten or that any or all of the other four teams won't follow suit, mind you. If we were to put odds on the different candidates for expansion, Missouri would be near the top, and the other four schools would probably round out the top five. As guesses go, it's relatively safe.
But there's no way that the report is, at this point, true. The Big Ten just announced last week that the accelerated timetable was bogus and that they were still operating on a 12-18 month timetable. Perhaps someone in St. Louis is certain that Missouri will leave if asked, but there's no way it's a done deal on both sides at this point--not when the conference hasn't even entered into formal negotiations.
So ignore this report, ignore Tom Dienhart's four-division plan based on "buzz" (nice code word for "other people's speculation"), ignore everything without a name attached to it. Then someday down the road--maybe not until after next basketball season--we'll get word from the conference that there'll be a press conference that Monday. At that point, it's time to listen to reports coming from different press outlets. Until then, be prepared for these reports to crop up every week or two, and prepare for them to mean nothing.
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Never thought I'd live in a world where you can't trust unnamed sources
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by Sean Keeley on May 2, 2010 12:45 AM EDT reply actions
The unnamed source.
I love the unnamed source, or a source close to the situation that wishes to remain anonymus. All the teams listed but Pitt make sense.
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by whardiek on May 2, 2010 11:53 AM EDT reply actions
Actually, not....
After Notre Dame, Pitt is the first choice. Allthough it is money, money, money, a lot of Big 10 people watnt a couple teams that fit a couple other “bills”. Geographic footprint and Big 10 history and ties to the Big 10, I know PSU have the tv covered in Pitt. However, Pitt has been to 4 Rose Bowls, after Notre Dame, Pitt would be higher than anyone, in “combined games” against the Big Ten, their schedule in the 40’s 50’s 60’s after ND,PSU,WVU, was almost exculsively filled in with Big Ten teams, they were almost in the Big Ten in the 50’s. Top AAU school, U.S. News and World Report top 20 univ, rivalry with PSU, after Notre Dame, Pitt is the almost “lock”. No, not for any big money, Rutgers and Syracuse can do that with new t.v. markets, but I will bet anyone a chocolate chip cookie, that,unless Notre Dame somehow goes in as the 12th and only team, Pitt will be a lock to be involved in a 14 or 16 team conference. Done deal !!
by ITSGETTINGNEARDARK on May 2, 2010 10:05 PM EDT reply actions
Nobody but Penn State wants anything to do Pitt.
None of the other 10 teams care about expanding east. Missouri would be an even worse choice then Iowa State. I see Nebraska as a most viable option out of the Big 12. Back to Pitt though, another big reason why the won’t be invited is because they wouldn’t open up any new markets. PSU owns that state. If the Big 10 expands east, it will most likely end up being Rutgers or Syracuse, my preference being Syracuse.
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by White Lightning on May 3, 2010 12:22 AM EDT up reply actions
Pitt isnt top 20, its in the 50s/60s range.
by meatybob on May 3, 2010 6:41 PM EDT up reply actions
U.S. News and World Report top 20 univ
Top 20 in the Northeast?
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by Brian Favat on May 5, 2010 10:50 AM EDT up reply actions
Wrong
No, Pitt is in, move along….
by ITSGETTINGNEARDARK on May 3, 2010 1:08 AM EDT reply actions
Do you have any concrete evidence of this "lock"?
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by White Lightning on May 3, 2010 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions
And frankly....
Most Pitt people don’t want anything to do with you…Other than the people at the top for money. But, the fans, want nothing to do with your second rate basketball conference, as for football, yes, the Big East is tenth rate, but, for those that are in, much easier to get to the BCS than joining some hodgepodge 16 team conference. No, Pitt is coming, to the dismay of many of us……….ya know, take Notre Dame and be done with it as far as many of us our concerened. You’ve got quite a big head, for mediocre football, yes, 10 times better than the Big East’s, but, compared to the S.E.C., I mean, c’mon.
by ITSGETTINGNEARDARK on May 3, 2010 1:16 AM EDT reply actions
I guess I'm confused
When you say “your” second rate basketball conference, don’t you mean both of ours, I see from your profile that you must be a Michigan State fan, and for your information I personally don’t anything to do with Notre Dame, they are pretty mediocre all around at this point. Also at this point, the SEC is not that far ahead of the Big 10, or even (as much as it pains me to say it) the Big 12, the SEC is lot like the Big 12, a couple of premier teams and a bunch of other teams who think they are better than they really are.
Tigers love pepper... they hate cinnamon.
by White Lightning on May 3, 2010 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions
grammer fail
Tigers love pepper... they hate cinnamon.
by White Lightning on May 4, 2010 5:59 PM EDT up reply actions
It's a known fact
that Big 10 football is second rate. The whole country knows it, OSU, PSU and the little nine!!
by ITSGETTINGNEARDARK on May 3, 2010 4:23 PM EDT reply actions
Actually the only people that claim that,
would be those of the SEC persuasion.
Tigers love pepper... they hate cinnamon.
by White Lightning on May 3, 2010 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions
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