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Would You Like To Stroke Kobe Bryant's Ego This Afternoon?

When you reach a certain level in any profession, you earn the right to dictate the way the media covers you. Because when you're the best at something, you become so essential to any meaningful story about that profession, reporters simply can't afford to piss you off, and risk losing access. Michael Jordan had it that way, Tiger Woods did for a while, and Kobe Bryant's no different. That's just the way works.

But come on, guys, this is getting ridiculous. Not Kobe-Pilgrim-ridiculous, but close.

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Remember a few years ago when Kobe flat-out refused to shoot during the second half of a Game 7 against Phoenix? Yes? Well, you misremembered, according to Kobe and the LA Times:

So what happened?

"To get back in the game, we needed somebody else to start making shots," Bryant said. "I was just trying to get the other guys going, turn the momentum around." [...]

'"I really tried to help everyone else, it just never happened, we missed shots, they got run-outs, three, three, three, and all of the sudden, the game was out of reach," Bryant said. "I had been successful doing that before, other guys start making shots, the energy picks up, we get back in the game. But nobody saw those games."

That came from Bill Plaschke, and two days after enjoying that precious access, he wrote this:

Well, Monday night, after watching a golden rage pour out of him like pure lava from jagged and smoldering rocks, here's what I think.

This is Kobe with a bigger chip on his shoulder than in his knee. This is Kobe holding a memory as painful as his finger. This is, on or off the court, the most unstoppable Kobe that anybody can encounter. [...]

You want to pin the Lakers' previous postseason failures against the Suns under his watch on him? Pin this -- 40 points in 35 minutes on 23 shots, wow after wow after wow.

And... wow, indeed. Does the L.A. media hand out kneepads in the press room?

Then today, ESPN Los Angeles chimes in to back Kobe's account of that old Game 7:

Bryant, who took only three shots in the second half of Game 7, is largely thought to have given up that night. Analyst Charles Barkley called the Lakers' star "selfish" after the game, suggesting he was passing up shot attempts to make the point that his teammates couldn't win without his scoring. [...]

It was reasonable, given Kobe's ability to take over a game and his recent history of putting up big lines against the Suns, to focus on his point production and offensive aggressiveness. But it may have missed the point of his attack.

With all due respect to the reporters involved, what's next? As Slam's Ryan Jones joked, while we're at it, are we also going to pretend Kobe never went to Colorado that summer? These are the facts: Kobe scored 23 points in the first half of that Game 7, and in the second half, as his team's season was going up in flames, he wound up taking 3 shots.

It was a telling performance as to Kobe's character. After Phil Jackson stressed ball movement at halftime, with the Lakers losing, there was Kobe throwing up his hands, saying with his play, "Here! I'll try it your way!" Whether you think he's grown since then or he'll always be that same, petulant superstar, it did happen. You can't just erase history. Right?

Hmm. Depends on who you talk to, I guess.

...And whether that person is trying to get Kobe Bryant to talk to him.

(Also, a note to LeBron: If you're taking your recent playoff failure hard, don't worry too much. In five years it'll be like that terrible Game 5 simply never happened.)

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Obviously you don't read Plaschke consistenly

Plaschke is the most fickle writer on the times staff. His aim is to sell newspapers and try to pull people’s heartstrings and push their buttons. One minute he;s on the Laker bandwagon the next he’s not. The only times he writes about the Lakers are during the playoffs or after a HUGE game.

Stick to Mark Heisler, Mike Bresnahan and Brad Turner if you don’t want the ridiculous.

Plaschke does not represent the LA media. Plaschke is a circus clown.

that aside

I find it hard to believe that Kobe would purposely lose a game 7. Kobe Bryant sabotaging his own team over something petty makes little sense to me.


After Phil Jackson stressed ball movement at halftime, with the Lakers losing, there was Kobe throwing up his hands, saying with his play, “Here! I’ll try it your way!”

So you’re going after Kobe for listening to his coach and not totally disregarding him?

"Attitude reflect leadership, captain" - Big Jules

There is hate and there is "get the fuck out of my way, I've got a parade to get to" - Cool Dudes on May 12, 2010 10:11 PM PDT

http://twitter.com/KBZinLA

by KBZ on May 19, 2010 4:45 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Right on KBZ

A bit of a contradiction right KBZ?

by Ray DLC on May 19, 2010 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

There's a difference

between heeding a coach’s instruction and taking that instruction to the extreme. That’s been a patented Kobe move for a whole lot of his career. I actually think he’s gotten past those antics, but it was definitely an issue in that game and others.

by Andrew Sharp on May 19, 2010 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

I see your point

but if i remember correctly the Lakers were down about 20 even when Kobe was shooting.

If Kobe’s way wasn’t working then why not completely buy into the gameplan but forth by his coach. I think he gave up more than he engaged in petty antics.

"Attitude reflect leadership, captain" - Big Jules

There is hate and there is "get the fuck out of my way, I've got a parade to get to" - Cool Dudes on May 12, 2010 10:11 PM PDT

http://twitter.com/KBZinLA

by KBZ on May 19, 2010 6:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

put*

"Attitude reflect leadership, captain" - Big Jules

There is hate and there is "get the fuck out of my way, I've got a parade to get to" - Cool Dudes on May 12, 2010 10:11 PM PDT

http://twitter.com/KBZinLA

by KBZ on May 19, 2010 6:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

LOL

at this kobe hater getting her panties in a twist because her hero Lebron couldn’t get the job done once again. w Try talking about current events that are relevant to to what’s going on today. This clown can’t say anything negative about kobe’s current play so she brings up a 5 year old story. What are you going to write about next? hurricane katrina since the weather has been so nice? LOL at you and your writing ability

by wavenstein on May 19, 2010 5:58 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Well, that was easy

I’ll show you how easy:

Kobe is a horrible human being! He eats children for breakfast! Flee the selfish basketball monster with no character!

"This is not a game for boys. This is a game for men." - Phil Jackson

by Gil Meriken on May 19, 2010 6:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Eh?

I don’t really understand your post….

"Why are you behaving like such an American?"
--David Stern

by Jacob Grinyer on May 19, 2010 6:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

He was doing what you did

You responded with sarcasm and derision, not actually responding to any actual points.

He did the same thing to you, making the point that you actually said nothing useful, and did not make a single valid point.

The implied message is that next time, you might try actually arguing the facts, rather than mocking those involved in the discussion.

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by Josh Tucker on May 19, 2010 7:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

JOSH TUCKER SIGHTING

Come back to SSnR!

The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist.

by Justin N. on May 20, 2010 1:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

Okay

To pop in, at least…

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by Josh Tucker on May 21, 2010 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

One - Slam's Ryan Jones is a known and unabashed Lebron supporter and has a personal dislike for Kobe

Which doesn’t entirely negate his opinion, but it’s definitely something to think about.

Two – There is no history to re-write, because this is what Kobe said right after the game (if it wasn’t right after it was a week after), and others have repeated it. It is not a matter of “history” that he “gave up” in that game. That is an opinion, and not necessarily a correct one.

Three – Kobe has indeed looked to his to team for support in games before, and they have come back – this happened to be a game where it got away from the Lakers quickly. Please give the Suns some credit for that. As you know, he did score 23 points in the first half, and his team was still down by 20, so that obviously was not working.

Four –

It was a telling performance as to Kobe’s character
As far as I can tell, Kobe’s “character” as a player is championship caliber. If it takes character to win titles as a main contributor to a title basketball team, Kobe has that in spades.

"This is not a game for boys. This is a game for men." - Phil Jackson

by Gil Meriken on May 19, 2010 6:22 PM EDT reply actions  

well said

everything andrew sharp said in his article is his opinion, yet hes perpetuating it as fact. thats ridiculous. especially since the entire article is about distorting the “truth” when it comes to kobe. the only person that really knows what happened that night is kobe, and he has said his piece. of course it is up to sharp and everyone else on this earth to choose whether you believe kobe, but please dont come writing this dribble perpetuating it as “facts” and “history” when you cant prove it either way.

i personally dont think kobe would give up in a game 7, but thats my opinion based on things that have been said and my own observations. just as it is sharps OPINION that he did in fact give up.

and i mean seriously, every reporter would fall all over themselves if the superstar of their home team just put up 40 points on the “much improved defense” of the suns…..in the conference finals……its just common sense. kobe did what he wanted in game one, and it impresses people. get over it. people say the same thing about lebron, peirce, nash or whomever every time they do it too.

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by silverstreak3k on May 19, 2010 6:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

kobe scored 40

he scored 40 in game 1! who can hate on THAT!?!? let’s see what he can pull of in game 2.

http://www.3n1sports.com/basketball/kobe-scores-40-in-game-1

by 3n1sports.com on May 19, 2010 6:26 PM EDT reply actions  

Some examples

Taken from http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-heisler-lakers-20100519,0,5376211.column?page=2

Not that it can’t happen. Wilt Chamberlain didn’t shoot from the field in the second half of his last game as a 76er, the Game 7 loss to the Celtics in 1968.

Michael Jordan took eight shots in a pivotal Game 5 loss to Detroit with the 1990 East finals tied, 2-2, after being asked to pass.

IF you want to characterize Kobe’s performance as “tanking”, fine, then hopefully you will be consistent and label Wilt and MJ as “tankers” as well.

"This is not a game for boys. This is a game for men." - Phil Jackson

by Gil Meriken on May 19, 2010 6:36 PM EDT reply actions  

Someone want to explain this to me?

In the first half, Kobe went off, and the Lakers were destroyed. In the second half, Kobe didn’t score, and the Lakers were destroyed.

…How, exactly, does that prove any point at all?

I’m sorry, but if I was Kobe and I wanted to prove a point about how much my team needs my scoring, I wouldn’t do it on a night when my scoring hadn’t actually been helpful.

I’d wait until a night when my scoring was keeping us in the game, then I’d refuse to shoot in the second half and watch us get blown out. THEN it would be clear that my scoring was needed.

It’s so painfully obvious that he was not trying to prove a point, because the event itself did not actually support that point!

Strength & Honor
It's good to be the Champs

by Josh Tucker on May 19, 2010 6:51 PM EDT reply actions  

So you have two options here:

You can interpret it one of two ways:

  1. Kobe chose to make a point about how badly the Lakers need his scoring on a night when it would result in him losing (which is about the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard) … even though it would have been obvious that in this particular game, doing so would not have supported his position, since his scoring did not help them in the first half.
  2. Kobe saw that being halfway to 50 points at halftime had gotten them nowhere. He also recognized that every single time he scored big against Phoenix, the Lakers were solidly beaten — while also recognizing that every time they had beaten Phoenix, it had been because he had played the facilitator and gotten his teammates going. Therefore, he chose to do the latter. It didn’t work, but he took his best shot at doing the thing most likely to result in a win.

Let’s see, which scenario seems more likely? Which one actually makes even the least amount of sense?

What Andrew Sharp has failed to do, here, is recognize that they were beaten just as badly in the first half.

in the second half, as his team’s season was going up in flames, he wound up taking 3 shots

Hey genius — in the first half, when Kobe scored 23 … his team’s season was going up in flames then, too. What did you want him to do — just keep doing the same thing, even though it wasn’t working and, as you say, his team’s season was about to end?

Strength & Honor
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by Josh Tucker on May 19, 2010 6:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good to see your name, Josh!

And we miss your signature 16…15…14…13…12…11…10 …9…8 …

In fact, I think I will take up that sig as an homage!

"This is not a game for boys. This is a game for men." - Phil Jackson

by Gil Meriken on May 19, 2010 7:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not really, actually

It just that the post was less about discussing a game from 5 years ago than it was talking about journalists tendency to go easy on Kobe—or any superstars, really.

Hey genius — in the first half, when Kobe scored 23 … his team’s season was going up in flames then, too. What did you want him to do — just keep doing the same thing, even though it wasn’t working and, as you say, his team’s season was about to end?

This—in addition to be needlessly “dickish” and obnoxious—completely overlooks Kobe’s willful passiveness that day, but whatever. Remember it however you want. Again: this wasn’t about tearing down Kobe… It was more about writers that suck up to stars and ignore obvious flaws.

by Andrew Sharp on May 19, 2010 9:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

I must rec

For thoroughness.

"This is not a game for boys. This is a game for men." - Phil Jackson

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by Gil Meriken on May 20, 2010 1:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

FTG

for the green

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by Justin N. on May 20, 2010 2:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

Let me add

That while your claim that writers suck up to stars may be valid, you did not choose an example that embodies that phenomenon.

You could have talked about writers covering up for Tiger Woods’ dalliances, or Michael Jordan’s now well known, but rarely documented escapades back in Chicago, but instead you picked this example involving Kobe Bryant and an event that actually involves the game of basketball, not some personal flaw in Kobe’s life.

"This is not a game for boys. This is a game for men." - Phil Jackson

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by Gil Meriken on May 20, 2010 1:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

And one more thought

Indeed, there are writers who suck up to Kobe and go easy on him … but not in this case.

And when has Kobe ever earned the reputation of having writers go easy on him? I can name more easily the writers that seem to bear a personal grudge against him, than I can writers that won’t say anything negative about him.

"This is not a game for boys. This is a game for men." - Phil Jackson

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by Gil Meriken on May 20, 2010 2:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

Dude, give it up

I know a beatdown when I see one

I can't tell if Phil Jackson is playing 3D chess and is 10 moves ahead of us or if he's just goddamn senile...

by Mike1204 on May 31, 2010 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh snap!

It’s the playoffs, isn’t it? Well then. The Sig is Back.

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by Josh Tucker on May 19, 2010 7:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

=)

It’s also good to see your name pop up, Josh, and not just the Sig. It’s nostalgic and brings back memories of respectkobe.com.

by hertagnism on May 20, 2010 1:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

Guys, you have methodically, thoroughly destroyed this flawed-since-the-start post.

BRAVO!.

"I was just letting the shots fly. You know, I don't leave any bullets in the chamber."

"Everything negative- pressure, challenges- is all an opportunity for me to rise."

-Kobe Bryant

A mantra for all athletes.

by TrojanRam on May 20, 2010 4:58 PM EDT reply actions  

Man...

Funny what logic and thought-out arguments can do to such a poorly written and thought out article.

Some people juggle geese.

by Tagath on May 20, 2010 11:44 PM EDT reply actions  

Wow...

this was embarrassing.

by Beko on May 21, 2010 10:54 AM EDT reply actions  

by ‘this’ I mean ‘that’, but by that it still returns to this. ah whatever, come on, you and I both know what it means.

by Beko on May 21, 2010 10:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

rotfl, Josh really embarrassed this clown.

"Just by the aura of D.J. Mbenga being there, the shot missed."

by shaqfor3 on May 22, 2010 2:47 AM EDT reply actions  

Very true.

One would think that editorial staff could actually… well, you know… “write”… and be able to keep from hoisting up their opinions as truths. What an unmitigated disaster to have the founder of an SB blog destroy you (as an ‘editor’)!

The half-crazed ramblings of a Lakers fanatic living in Japan...

by With Malice on May 22, 2010 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

More ownage

http://www.silverscreenandroll.com/2010/5/31/1483824/kobe-exorcises-his-phoenix-born

"Our deepest fear is not that we are inadequate. Our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure."

http://www.silverscreenandroll.com/ - Visit, and be loved. Troll, and die a painful death. =]]

by Saurav A. Das on Jun 2, 2010 11:30 AM EDT reply actions  

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