Shanoff's WUC: Even MJ Says LeBron Is No MJ

There’s only ONE Air Jordan. Not Kobe, not LeBron. As a matter of fact I wish these idiotic comparisons would just stop once and for all. And how about waiting until LeBron ACTUALLY WINS A TITLE before comparing him to the greats of the game?  Remind me how many first team all NBA selections, scoring titles, league mvps, defensive mvps & Finals mvps Kobe has. And Kobe has a great chance to get his sixth ring next year. And if Kobe does that that’s ALL HE WILL HAVE IN COMMON WITH MJ. Jordan is the greatest NBAer of all time, end of discussion. And no way in H*LL can anyone ever say that Kobe is bar none the second greatest NBAer of all time.

jordan is the best player i have ever seen. what’s funny is…no one is even close. mike didn’t want to win…he was POSSESSED by winning. if you know the story of him trying to choke steve kerr to death…FOR BEATING HIM AT MONOPOLY…well, that’s all you need to know. these kids today are spoiled and soft…they would stand no chance.

Keep this is mind.  Jordan didn’t win crap until Bird retired b/c of his back and Magic was diagnosed with HIV.  Jordan was great sure, but don’t forget he played in a major TV market (Chicago), had Scottie Pippen, and didn’t have to battle Magic and Bird in their primes anymore.  That was the difference. 

gabe…you forgetting the fact that he didn’t win until he got by the pistons ??

"Jordan didn’t win crap until Bird retired b/c back & MAGIC WAS DIAGNOSED WITH HIV."

Gabe, remind me again WHO did Jordan beat to win his first title in ‘91. Do you even know? The Bulls beat Magic’s Lakers in 5 THEN at the start of the ‘91-’92 season Magic announced he had HIV.

Great WRONG statement!!!!!

Gabe. Jordan is the sole reason why certain Hall of famers don’t have rings. One of the greatest Centers all time, Hakeem, only got one when Jordan retired. Micheal comes back and wins three more. What are you talking about?

How disappointing that MJ had to step in IT.  It being this Lebron / Heat hate-a-thon.  MJ waited so long to spill the hate and for what?  WEAK and FAIL MJ. 

His statement reminds me of old timers trying to stay relevant by making comments often tainted by the green monster:

-They make too much money today and don’t respect the game like we did.
-They don’t play fundamental skills like we did.
-They are all about the money now.
-Add what MJ just said.

I could break down MJ comments but I won’t.  If you know B-Ball at all and it’s recent history involving MJ, you would know that he didn’t do it alone either and sadly does not credit others brought to his team to help him win.

He also played in Chicago, a mecca for big sports as Kobe and the Celtics greats and the NY greats do.  He did not play in the graveyard called Cleveland.  Had he being drafted in nowhere town and then offered to move his ass to Chicago he would have done it in a lickety split.

MJ, you should have stayed out of this drama.  LBJ is not threatening your  legacy.  Kobe is.  And Kobe won’t be given his 6th ring unless he goes to battle with Miami.  You should be thankful.  And yes, no need to advertise the games Carolina v. Miami.  Those games will be a sellout and you will make more money.   

Also, Russell behaved like a gentleman and was quiet giving the new NBA kid (that was you Mike) his due.  Did you learn anything.

BTW:  It is Kobe Bryant who thinks himself the New MJ.  His mannerisms of late, licking his lips, playing with his tongue out all remind me of attributes of MJ when he used to play.  Needless to say, Kobe is safe from criticism for now because folks are too busy piling on LBJ and Miami.

Bill Russell was THA MAN.  MJ a distant third.

How disappointing that MJ had to step in IT.  It being this Lebron / Heat hate-a-thon.  MJ waited so long to spill the hate and for what?  WEAK and FAIL MJ. 

His statement reminds me of old timers trying to stay relevant by making comments often tainted by the green monster:

-They make too much money today and don’t respect the game like we did.
-They don’t play fundamental skills like we did.
-They are all about the money now.
-Add what MJ just said.

I could break down MJ comments but I won’t.  If you know B-Ball at all and it’s recent history involving MJ, you would know that he didn’t do it alone either and sadly does not credit others brought to his team to help him win.

He also played in Chicago, a mecca for big sports as Kobe does in LA and the Celtics greats i Boston, and the NY Knicks greats In NY.  He did not play in a graveyard called Cleveland.  Had he being drafted in nowhere town and then offered to move his ass to Chicago he would have done it in a lickety split.

MJ, you should have stayed out of this drama.  LBJ is not threatening your  legacy.  Kobe is.  And Kobe won’t be given his 6th ring unless he goes to battle with Miami.  You should be thankful.  And yes, no need to advertise the games Carolina v. Miami.  Those games will be a sellout and you will make more money.   

Also, Russell behaved like a gentleman and was quiet giving the new NBA kid (that was you Mike) his due.  Did you learn anything.

BTW:  It is Kobe Bryant who thinks himself the New MJ.  His mannerisms of late, licking his lips, playing with his tongue out all remind me of attributes of MJ when he used to play.  Needless to say, Kobe is safe from criticism for now because folks are too busy piling on LBJ and Miami.

Bill Russell was THA MAN.  MJ a distant third.

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SailorGabe | Monday, July 19, 2010, 1:30 pm
Keep this is mind. Jordan didn’t win crap until Bird retired b/c of his back and Magic was diagnosed with HIV. Jordan was great sure, but don’t forget he played in a major TV market (Chicago), had Scottie Pippen, and didn’t have to battle Magic and Bird in their primes anymore. That was the difference

Winning the title, means winning the title, no matter who you have to play and don’t have to play. We can follow your logic all the way back to the first NBA game and diminish all teams’ titles! For example; CLE would of won titles IF it wasn’t for Chicago. The Jazz and Suns would of done the same. The fact remains, the BULL S won 6 titles and they earned and won it no matter the other teams rosters, retirees, etc.

At least no one here is saying LeQuitter did not have a team around him at Cleveland, unlike MJ at Chicago. The Cav’s had the best record in the league last year. You don’t do that without having a solid team. But how far you go in the playoffs depends on if everyone wants to play, which LeQuitter did not.

@RhoRhoJordan is always relevant. Simply put, he’s Jordan. As far as your other argument, weak. Jordan played in a much harder NBA than Lebronze. Lebronze has waltzed into the playoffs every year, playing in a weak Eastern Conference. Also, I find it hard to believe that had Jordan fielded a team that consecutively had the best record in the NBA that he would jettison like Lebronze. No one is hating on Bron. You obviously have not watched how many people have spoon fed and coddled this Robin. Each and every year him not winning anything and people slobbing him to no end. No one is hating on him joining the Heat. We are simply pointing out that his legacy is tarnished. Him leaving Cleveland in such a cowardly manner doesn’t help his brand or his name either. He brought this on himself. Jordan ended HOF careers, nuff said. Bron quit on his team. Jordan, as the alpha dog, would have never done that. Thus him winning his first ring at the age of 28. Bronze is only 25.  

jordan always said his greatest accomplishment was keeping ewing and barkley (his 2 best friends)…ringless.

Pantherfan, actually, I think I have a **** good argument and if you don’t see it, I can’t help your myopia.  Jordan was unique as all these guys are in their own way.  As time goes by, while his legend remains, we become enamored of the flavor of the month and player in our lifeline. 

And those are the top 10-20 players in the NBA TODAY.  List them in whatever order you like.  Notice the living legend is not listed regardless of his superiority.  It is only human nature for him to shout:  HEY, I AM STILL HERE YOU KNOW.  And that’s what I meant by relevancy.  But that’s not the point. 

The winning formula NOW is to have at least 2 superstars on a team.  Kobe, Garnett, Magic, et al have ALL won with other great players along side.  That is the point which escapes your beloved MJ who by the way gives Pippen, Kukoc, and others that help make him great NO LOVE. Tsk, tsk.  

If you don’t have 2 or more strongmen on the team, then we will forever have an LA / Celtics Celtics / LA orgy which the media loves.  Miami wants a threesome, and soon, NY will jump in when Paul and Carmelo join Amarie.

You say no one is hating on Lebron.  Read the newspapers from Seattle to freaking London even, all over the net and sports radio shows.  He has his defendors and his detractors.  I have friends from several states who are talking about this thing.  It’s a freaking LBJ hate-a thon. 

I do agree with everyone that he was poorly advised in his announcement. I know what they were trying to do with this drama **** of everything we watch.   We ate it up then realized too late people felt hurt.   

Personally, I think he should fire his hangeron people and his enablers.  When you are told since age 5 you are great, you will believe it ultimately.  Do you think Tiger believes it.  I hope LBJ matures in the company of his friends, Pat Riley and Alonzo Mourning, all who are respected and accomplished people.  He did not have this in Cleveland. 

I don’t give him a pass.  I recognize his shortcomings and only hope he does too to make changes.  I believe in giving people a chance to atone. 

He needed to break it down a bit more before launching that flamethrower.  Had LBJ and Wade ended up in Chicago or NY, you would have celebrated that as some genius move.  But this unprecedented move took people by surprise and now I am witnessing a disease called Heat Derangement Syndrome which I named by the way after the old prez.

BTW, what the f are you talking about championships and age.  You can win one at 18 or closed to when your career ends at 40 or whatever as a player.  There is no rule ascribed to age and champinships. 
How old are you???????

Hey Pantherfan… Would Jordan quit on his team if John Paxson was doin his mama?

RhoRho&nbsp;<div></div><div>The point that escapes you is that Jordan did not give up. He weathered the storm, unlike a player that fielded the best team, league wise, two consecutive seasons in a row.</div><div></div><div>Never has an alpha dog, ever, left a team while in his prime, to go play with another mega star, who is also entering his prime. That coupled with a star. Bron couldn't get it done as a leader so he jettisoned. That's the point. He can't be Mike. I might not be able to help your myopia either, lol.&nbsp;</div><div></div><div> Josh-waNope, Jordan was that competitive. He wanted to be THE guy, unlike bronz.