Derek Fisher said Friday that NBA lockout talks broke down after the owners, led by commissioner David Stern, essentially presented a "take it or leave it" proposal to split basketball-related income 50-50. Fisher told reporters covering the lockout meetings that he cannot sell a 50-50 split and owner-requested changes to the salary cap system to his players.
The talks have now broken up three times in October over the owners' unwillingness to move beyond a 50-50 revenue split. Fisher said that the players are down to 52.5 percent; the previous collective bargaining agreement allotted 57 percent of basketball-related income, about $3.8 billion last season, to players in the aggregate.
The two sides are about $100 million per season apart. The league has already cancelled 100 regular season games, and reports suggest Stern will cancel an additional 102 games -- all scheduled contests through November 28 -- later Friday.
Stern is scheduled to speak to reporters Friday evening.
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Players do realize that
The way revenue is split now means the league may have to fold teams, thus costing them jobs right? I mean how is 50/50 unfair?
The player I would like least at #9 would be my sister’s cat, Captain Creamsicle. She does have a great work ethic and agility, but I’m really concerned that at 9 lbs., she’s too small to play safety in the NFL. She also bites way too often on play action and is easily distracted by someone waving string in the crowd. Lastly, her wonderlic score was pretty awful, answering "meow meow meow" for most of the questions- Dr. Brackish Okun
by mob16151 on Oct 28, 2011 7:03 PM EDT reply actions
Once you start folding teams...
..you’re admitting your franchises have less value than you purport them to be.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on Oct 28, 2011 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions
When your losing money
you have to do what you have to do.
The player I would like least at #9 would be my sister’s cat, Captain Creamsicle. She does have a great work ethic and agility, but I’m really concerned that at 9 lbs., she’s too small to play safety in the NFL. She also bites way too often on play action and is easily distracted by someone waving string in the crowd. Lastly, her wonderlic score was pretty awful, answering "meow meow meow" for most of the questions- Dr. Brackish Okun
by mob16151 on Oct 28, 2011 8:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh the losing money argument.
This is precious. Next your gonna tell me I should feel sorry for all these poor wealthy owners who have the serious net worth to purchase franchises.
No mas. If it was up to me, I’d lock all these guys in a burning arena until they agreed to a reasonable deal (like 51% of BRI for the players) and admit that what they are doing is basically the NBA version of a real estate scam. It’s probably a good thing it’s not up to me.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on Oct 28, 2011 8:15 PM EDT up reply actions
the teams that are "candidates for contraction"
are likely those teams which would lose less money with a canceled season than with games played under the system last year….
by thewiz06 on Oct 28, 2011 9:48 PM EDT up reply actions
That argument is not actually backed up by facts
And if it was true (that the current 57/43 split would cause teams to fold), why is 50/50 the magic salvation number? Why not 53/47 or 52/48?
Why don’t the owners fully open their books if they are indeed losing as much money as they say they are? Wouldn’t that give them a huge boost in support from the public if it were actually the case?
by otis29 on Oct 29, 2011 10:43 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
You know
that the 47/53 offers and whatnot are coming if this keeps dragging out.
The player I would like least at #9 would be my sister’s cat, Captain Creamsicle. She does have a great work ethic and agility, but I’m really concerned that at 9 lbs., she’s too small to play safety in the NFL. She also bites way too often on play action and is easily distracted by someone waving string in the crowd. Lastly, her wonderlic score was pretty awful, answering "meow meow meow" for most of the questions- Dr. Brackish Okun
by mob16151 on Nov 1, 2011 11:10 PM EDT up reply actions
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/columns/story?columnist=coon_larry&page=NBAFinancials-110630
Good read, and personally make ’s me lean towards the owners side of the equasion.
The player I would like least at #9 would be my sister’s cat, Captain Creamsicle. She does have a great work ethic and agility, but I’m really concerned that at 9 lbs., she’s too small to play safety in the NFL. She also bites way too often on play action and is easily distracted by someone waving string in the crowd. Lastly, her wonderlic score was pretty awful, answering "meow meow meow" for most of the questions- Dr. Brackish Okun
by mob16151 on Oct 28, 2011 10:38 PM EDT reply actions
Not that I dislike Coon or necessarily think his message misses the boat....
…but what does a piece on July 12th have much to do with today? Especially when the stated losses by the NBA has come down from 370 million to 300 million. Am I supposed to really believe that there is a real number the NBA is telling us?
The answer is I don’t trust the NBA or the NBPA, but the NBPA has a goal that at least I understand: A reasonable system for their players. Which guides their negotiating strategy to say the least.
I guess I’m confused. It seems to me you are looking for reasons to be a pro-owner than by being swayed by a particular argument that makes you feel compelled to support a side.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on Oct 29, 2011 12:35 AM EDT up reply actions
I think that the NBA business model is broken
And it needs to be fixed. And I don’t believe the 52/48 split is equitable. I think those numbers are almost like a lunatic running the asylum type deal. Basically the players proposed 52/48 split is this lockouts equivalent, to Latrell Sprewells I cant afford to feed my kids statement of the last one.
The player I would like least at #9 would be my sister’s cat, Captain Creamsicle. She does have a great work ethic and agility, but I’m really concerned that at 9 lbs., she’s too small to play safety in the NFL. She also bites way too often on play action and is easily distracted by someone waving string in the crowd. Lastly, her wonderlic score was pretty awful, answering "meow meow meow" for most of the questions- Dr. Brackish Okun
by mob16151 on Nov 1, 2011 11:15 PM EDT up reply actions
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