Feb 25, 2012; Fort Myers, FL, USA; Boston Red Sox manager Bobby Valentine (25) during infield practice at spring training at JetBlue Park. Mandatory Credit: Steve Mitchell-US PRESSWIRE

Bobby Valentine Already Annoying His Players?

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Josh Beckett Responds To Curt Schilling About Bobby Valentine, Sort Of

Bobby Valentine is the strong sort, he's taken over the Boston Red Sox, and he's inherited a ballclub that had some pretty well-publicized clubhouse and discipline issues late in the 2011 regular season. Valentine was expected to lay down the law from the get-go, and lay down the law, he has. It can be unpleasant when your boss lays the law down on top of you, though, and Curt Schilling recently reported - reported? - that things were "going bad", that some Red Sox players were being rubbed the wrong way by Valentine's methods. I really wish I'd come up with a better way to phrase that.

Problems in Boston? Again? Not so fast, perhaps. Josh Beckett went on some radio show, and during the course of his interview he said a few things about Valentine and Schilling. I'll transcribe. On Valentine:

He's been great, you know. I mean, he definitely makes us pay attention to the small things, that's for sure.

On Schilling:

I haven't seen him around this year. Is he one of our pitchers?

I haven't seen him around this year. I didn't know he was going to be one of our pitchers.

I haven't seen him around here though. I think if somebody knew that much they'd probably be a little closer to it.

As far as him speaking about how things are being run here, I haven't seen him around here this year to where he would know that much.

Hard-hitting, insightful interview. Josh Beckett hasn't seen Curt Schilling around this year. He didn't know Schilling would be one of the team's pitchers.

Beckett, I guess, hasn't heard of sources. It's possible, if not probable, that some real-life Red Sox sources expressed their discontent with Valentine, or passed along the discontent of others. I doubt that Schilling just made something up. But it wouldn't be a shock to learn that Schilling might have exaggerated, and perhaps more significantly, this is still basically Valentine's first month with the team. He is a very different manager from Terry Francona, and one would figure there would be an adjustment period. Red Sox players right now are adjusting to Bobby Valentine, and they might not like every part of that. But then the adjustment will be complete, and they'll perform more or less like themselves.

The Red Sox drama has gotten off to an early start, and after the story at the end of 2011, the clubhouse will face impossible scrutiny. The clubhouse will probably not be all that different from most other clubhouses, but if there's even the faint whiff of a problem, you better believe we're going to hear about it. And then we here are probably going to write about it because we're just cogs in the machine, man.


Curt Schilling: Bobby Valentine's Managing Is 'Going Bad'

Reminder: Bobby Valentine is the manager of the Boston Red Sox. It's spring, and our focus is on backup shortstops hitting .400 and starting outfielders hitting .100, and I'm sure we'll all remember these spring performances in a few weeks. But Bobby Valentine is the manager -- wearer of disguises, and inventor of health-conscious sandwich substitutes -- of one of the most prominent teams in baseball. He's a pretty strong personality. How long until some folks get tired of h…

Oh. So, already. From WEEI we have the State of the Curt Schilling address:

Schilling said, "I like Bobby. I like him a lot," after working with Valentine at ESPN last season. However, Schilling said, "I thought that the manager that managed the Mets that I was not a big fan of was now going to be a different manager, and I don't think there's anything different at all. And I don't think that that is going to be conducive to doing well here. There's a lot of things I think that are happening not just from his perspective, but when you talk to these guys -- and I'm still talking to some of these guys -- I don't think this is going well. And I think it's going bad quicker than I expected it to."

Or, to paraphrase: "Like the guy. Figured it would turn to crap at some point. But, man, it escalated quickly!"

Schilling might be a yappy sort, but it's not too far-fetched to think that he talks to one of the seven players who are on the Red Sox now who were also around for Schilling's last season in 2007. These might be the grumblings of a single disgruntled player, or they might be a clubhouse-wide disenchantment. The important thing is that we found out limited information when we probably didn't need to. Thanks, Curt Schilling!

One more nugget from the article: Schilling compares Red Sox shortstop prospect Jose Iglesias to Rey Ordonez:

"I think you're looking at a Rey Ordonez until he matures offensively. And I think Rey Ordonez, had he hit .280, would have been in the Hall of Fame."

And if I had 3,116 strikeouts and a level-79 paladin, I'd be Curt Schilling. But I can't even get dismissive of this comp because I feel like the kids today don't hear enough about Rey Ordonez.


Yankees' Derek Jeter And Alex Rodriguez Respond To Bobby Valentine

On Tuesday, Red Sox manager Bobby Valentine made some comments about Derek Jeter’s play on Jeremy Giambi in the 2001 AL Division Series between the Yankees and Athletics. Largely irrelevant to today, Valentine’s remarks appeared intended to fire up the Red Sox/Yankees rivalry.

Wednesday, Jeter and his teammate Alex Rodriguez (who wasn’t a Yankee in 2001) responded. Or, more correctly, didn’t.


“What do I think?” he said. “I don’t think anything. I really don’t. I have no thoughts whatsoever. I mean, who cares? Why are we talking about this? They must be bored over there. I don’t understand.”


“I’m not going to win many battles when it comes to words,” Rodriguez said. “Especially against Bobby.”

In case you think Jeter wasn’t kidding about not caring, he added:

“I’m indifferent,” Jeter said. “I mean, really. Think about it. We don’t practice it? We do. You guys see it, so I mean, what else can I say? I was out of position? I was where I was supposed to be.

There hasn’t been a single spring training game yet played by either of these teams, and yet we have a war of non-words going on. Fascinating. Here are two more, the words Jeter says he might say to Valentine when the two teams meet next month:

“Hi, Bobby."

Bobby Valentine vs. New York Yankees: Game On

Bobby Valentine isn't shy, and Yankees fans are going to love to hate him. If they don't already.


Terry Francona Says: 'Someone Cut My Legs Out From Under Me'

About two weeks after the Red Sox’ 2011 collapse was complete, the Boston Globe’s Bob Holher wrote an article that made numerous claims about what happened with the Red Sox behind the scenes, including claims that problems in manager Terry Francona’s personal life had affected the team’s play.

Thursday, in an interview on the "Big Show" on Boston radio station WEEI, Francona said that he was "caught off guard" by some of what Hohler wrote:

Francona said that he was under the impression, after talking with reporter Bob Hohler the night before the story ran, that he had corrected the record and that there would be no suggestion that he had an issue with pain medications. And so, he was surprised when reading the story to see that such suggestions remained.

"When I hung up with Bob, I was under the impression that he understood. I could have gotten him to talk to [Dr. Larry Ronan, a Red Sox physician]. I was under the impression that wasn’t part of the story. We definitely got our signals crossed," said Francona. "I would have put up more of a fight [to deny the allegations]."

Hohler’s article has been quite controversial; there appears, from the WEEI story, that there’s still a bit of bad blood and hurt feelings on Francona’s part.

Francona did an unexpectedly good job — given his almost complete lack of experience in the area — filling in as Fox TV analyst during the World Series. The WEEI article notes that Francona might be "considering" similar positions for the 2012 season.

One assumes that he wouldn’t be likely to be assigned to work any games involving the Red Sox. Not for a while, anyway. Not surprisingly, Francona declined to comment on the Red Sox' hire of Bobby Valentine.


Bobby Valentine: The Opposite Of Heart-Broken

At the Thursday press conference introducing the Red Sox' new manager, Bobby Valentine said all the right things.


If Nothing Else, Bobby Valentine Will Be Interesting

Bobby Valentine's never managed a first-place team, but he's entertaining as hell and that's plenty good enough for most of us.


Bobby Valentine, Red Sox Reach Agreement, According To Report

It's been a fun Tuesday for those of us trying to keep up with the Boston Red Sox's managerial search. First, a little background ... The Red Sox's search recently narrowed to Bobby Valentine, Gene Lamont and Torey Lovullo. Lovullo was subsequently ruled out, leaving just two candidates. Now, for Tuesday, we begin with Karl Ravech:

Sources say gene Lamont no longer a candidate to be red sox manager

That report was quickly shot down. Alex Speier:

Red Sox team source says report that Lamont is no longer being considered for manager is "not true."

And then that report was quickly shot down. Mike Lynch:

Red Sox and Bobby Valentine have reached a verbal agreement for him to be the next Sox manager.

I had a lot of words written about the first report, deleted out of frustration. Then I had a lot of words written about the second report, deleted out of frustration. Now you get these words. I hope that you're happy with these words, because you're not getting other words.

In case you read Lynch's tweet and figure that we're still in the rumor-and-sources stage of all this, he's supported by Gordon Edes:

Bobby Valentine will become 45th manager of the Red Sox, according to sources. He is expected here midafternoon Wednesday.

This is all looking very definitive. Edes' tweet cites "sources" and nothing is yet official, but it now seems all but official that Bobby Valentine will take over as the next manager of the Boston Red Sox.

Valentine's background? You're familiar with much of Valentine's background, I imagine. He managed the Rangers from 1985-1992. He managed the Chiba Lotte Marines in 1995. He managed the Mets from 1996-2002. He managed the Marines again from 2004-2009. He went to the World Series in 2000, and won a championship in Japan in 2005. He's recently worked for ESPN.

That's Bobby Valentine's background in a paragraph. As for his managerial tendencies, he's a mixed bag, and he's known for his strong personality that can be a positive or a negative, depending on the situation. It's hard to say how well Valentine will work out in Boston, and there's no way for anybody to know, but, ultimately, the likelihood is that the Red Sox finish with about the same record under Valentine as they would have under Lamont. Now Red Sox fans can put this managerial search behind them and start thinking about things that make a real, measurable difference.


Red Sox Manager Search: Bobby Valentine To Interview Monday, According To Report

Bobby Valentine will meet with Boston Red Sox general manager Ben Cherrington about the team's open managerial position on Monday, according to a report. Valentine's name has been connected to various managerial jobs in recent years, but he has yet to make a return to the bench. However, all that could change if the Red Sox show mutual interest following the reported Monday meeting.

According to ESPN, Valentine's current employer, the Red Sox are taking a hard look at Valentine after Dale Sveum, another candidate, was hired by the Cubs.

The 61-year-old Valentine, who is an ESPN analyst, has emerged as a possible front-runner for the Red Sox job after Boston elected not to offer a job to Dale Sveum, who on Friday became manager of the Chicago Cubs. Sveum was the only candidate on general manager Ben Cherington's publicly announced list of bidders for the job to interview twice, but Cherington has since acknowledged there is at least one other candidate, who has been identified as Valentine, and perhaps more.

We'll be back with more on the Red Sox managerial search as it becomes available. For all your Red Sox news needs, be sure to stop by Over the Monster.


Bobby Valentine, Potential Red Sox Manager

Bobby Valentine hasn't managed for a few years, but all that means is he is available for yet another gig.

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