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      <title>Thursday's Frosty Mug</title>
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          Yes, Randy Wolf is a Brewer now.
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&lt;p&gt;Some things to read while &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.mordantorange.com/mo/?p=1034&quot;&gt;remembering that &quot;port&quot; is &quot;left.&quot;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Welcome to day one of the Randy Wolf era (&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.brewcrewball.com/2009/12/9/1193186/wolf-to-sign&quot;&gt;FanShot&lt;/a&gt;). He'll make $29.5 million over the next three seasons, plus an option for 2010. Reaction to the deal has come from everywhere:&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.millerparkdrunk.com/baseball/brewers-sign-best-available-free-agent/&quot;&gt;Miller Park Drunk&lt;/a&gt; credits the Brewers for signing the best available free agent.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://quevedobuffet.blogspot.com/2009/12/done-deal.html&quot;&gt;Master Reid of Quevedo at the Buffet&lt;/a&gt; says it's a gamble the Brewers had to take at this point.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/wolf-signs-with-milwaukee/&quot;&gt;Erik Manning of FanGraphs&lt;/a&gt; explains why this deal shouldn't be compared to the Jeff Suppan signing.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Jordan &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.brewcrewball.com/2009/12/9/1193704/thoughts-on-the-brewers-signing&quot;&gt;also offered his thoughts&lt;/a&gt; on that topic, and reasonable expectations for Wolf.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://twitter.com/AdamMcCalvy/statuses/6508277575&quot;&gt;Adam McCalvy noted&lt;/a&gt; that Wolf's deal is the third richest for a pitcher in team history.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://jorgesaysno.blogspot.com/2009/12/brewers-are-going-for-it-in-2010.html&quot;&gt;Jorge Says No!&lt;/a&gt; says the Brewers are &quot;going for it&quot; in 2010.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.babeslovebaseball.com/2009/12/30-million-for-randy-wolf.html&quot;&gt;Babes Love Baseball&lt;/a&gt; thinks the Brewers overpaid for him.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.aarongleeman.com/2009_12_06_baseballblog_archive.html#5434498395133529709&quot;&gt;Aaron Gleeman&lt;/a&gt; says he'd rather have the deal Rich Harden signed with the Rangers.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Wolf's contract inspired Rob Neyer to write a &lt;a href=&quot;http://espn.go.com/blog/sweetspot/post/_/id/1709/the-meaning-of-randy-wolf-part-1&quot;&gt;two&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://espn.go.com/blog/sweetspot/post/_/id/1713/the-meaning-of-randy-wolf-part-2&quot;&gt;parter&lt;/a&gt; on the economics of player salaries.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Meanwhile, &lt;a href=&quot;http://diamondleung.tumblr.com/post/276700353/i-dont-live-in-a-cave-ive-read-plenty-of-things&quot;&gt;Diamond Leung&lt;/a&gt; has a quote from Wolf about the divorce situation with the McCourts that might have led to Wolf's departure from Los Angeles.&lt;/li&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;But, the Brewers weren't done there: They decided to burn a little extra money by overpaying for bullpen help. The result is a &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/latroy-hawkins-a-brewer/&quot;&gt;two-year, $7.5 million deal for LaTroy Hawkins&lt;/a&gt; (&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.brewcrewball.com/2009/12/9/1193357/twitter-ken-rosenthal-latroy&quot;&gt;FanShot&lt;/a&gt;). The move ensures the Brewers will have at least three pitchers in their bullpen earning more than $3.5 million next season (Hoffman, Riske and now Hawkins), as well as two pitchers with closing experience, both of which are 37 or older. Two more links on Hawkins: one good, one bad.&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://twitter.com/aarongleeman/statuses/6506139550&quot;&gt;Aaron Gleeman&lt;/a&gt; notes that Hawkins has posted a 3.35 ERA over the last six seasons, in 379 innings.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://twitter.com/brianmctaggart/status/6508100954&quot;&gt;Brian McTaggart&lt;/a&gt; quoted Hawkins as being &quot;very disappointed&quot; about leaving Houston, which is pretty much exactly what you don't want to hear from a guy you just threw a lot of perfectly good money at.&lt;/li&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;Both signings and a few other topics came up in Doug Melvin's MLB Network interview last night, which &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.brewcrewball.com/2009/12/9/1192008/making-your-00-face-shortstop&quot;&gt;Tristarscoop chronicled for us&lt;/a&gt;, in case you missed it.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Since then, Doug Melvin's had an interesting 12 hours or so. First, a valet &lt;a href=&quot;http://twitter.com/Haudricourt/statuses/6519305968&quot;&gt;lost the keys to his car&lt;/a&gt;. Then, after presumably getting a ride back to the meetings, Melvin &lt;a href=&quot;http://twitter.com/AdamMcCalvy/status/6532931863&quot;&gt;raised his offer to Craig Counsell&lt;/a&gt;. Melvin seems confident a deal will get done, and if he's saying so, that means he's pretty sure. Counsell &lt;a href=&quot;http://marksheldon.mlblogs.com/archives/2009/12/interest_in_counsell_talked_to.html&quot;&gt;has also spoken to the Reds&lt;/a&gt;, but it doesn't sound like there's much happening there.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Meanwhile, what once looked like a sure thing still isn't done: Mark Mulder remains unsigned, and now the Royals &lt;a href=&quot;http://twitter.com/KCKaegel/status/6512443855&quot;&gt;are also showing interest&lt;/a&gt; in his services.(h/t &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2009/12/odds-ends-yankees-boras.html?utm_source=feedburner&amp;utm_medium=feed&amp;utm_campaign=Feed%3A+MlbTradeRumors+%28MLB+Trade+Rumors%29&amp;utm_content=Google+Reader&quot;&gt;MLB Trade Rumors&lt;/a&gt;)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The Brewers also filled one more spot on their 40 man roster, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.baseballamerica.com/blog/prospects/?p=7345&quot;&gt;selecting Indians lefty Chuck Lofgren&lt;/a&gt; in the Rule 5 Draft (&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.brewcrewball.com/2009/12/10/1194429/brewers-select-chuck-lofgren-in&quot;&gt;FanShot&lt;/a&gt;). In a later post, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.baseballamerica.com/blog/prospects/?p=7355&quot;&gt;Baseball America&lt;/a&gt; called him one of the best stories taken. It sounds like he's had a rough couple of years, but he's a big, athletic lefty who throws hard (90-93), so he's exactly the kind of pitcher the Brewers should be seeking out to work with Rick Peterson.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Can't get enough Triple G? Batter's Box Interactive has some photos from a &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.battersbox.ca/article.php?story=20091209224649909&quot;&gt;Gregg Zaun at bat in Toronto&lt;/a&gt; last season. Zaun was also the starting point for today's Thursday Thinker: stop back for that at noon.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;You still have a few hours to cast your vote for a &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.brewcrewball.com/2009/12/8/1189997/making-your-00-face-second-base&quot;&gt;second baseman&lt;/a&gt; on our BCB All Decade Team. Voting for that position closes at 4 today. Prince Fielder officially became the first Brewer elected to the team yesterday. Voting for a &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.brewcrewball.com/2009/12/9/1192008/making-your-00-face-shortstop&quot;&gt;shortstop&lt;/a&gt; opened yesterday and closes at 4 tomorrow. Voting at third base, perhaps the most &lt;strike&gt;depressing&lt;/strike&gt; interesting choice on the team, will open at 4 today.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Around baseball:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20091209&amp;content_id=7788976&amp;vkey=news_mlb&amp;fext=.jsp&amp;c_id=mlb&quot;&gt;Astros:&lt;/a&gt; Acquired reliever Matt Lindstrom from the Marlins for two minor leaguers and a PTBNL, and &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.crawfishboxes.com/2009/12/9/1194073/fast-eddy-keeps-going-astros-ink&quot;&gt;signed Brandon Lyon&lt;/a&gt; to a three year, $15 million deal.&lt;a href=&quot;http://blog.seattlepi.com/baseball/archives/187796.asp?source=mypi&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Mariners:&lt;/a&gt; Signed Corey Patterson to a minor league deal. (&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.brewcrewball.com/2009/12/9/1193994/bye-bye-corey-patterson&quot;&gt;FanShot&lt;/a&gt;) Also &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2009/12/mariners-sign-josh-wilson.html?utm_source=feedburner&amp;utm_medium=feed&amp;utm_campaign=Feed%3A+MlbTradeRumors+%28MLB+Trade+Rumors%29&amp;utm_content=Google+Reader&quot;&gt;re-signed infielder Josh Wilson&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.metsblog.com/2009/12/10/news-mets-renegotiate-hanry-blancos-contract/?utm_source=feedburner&amp;utm_medium=feed&amp;utm_campaign=Feed%3A+metsblogfeed+%28MetsBlog.com%29&amp;utm_content=Google+Reader&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Mets:&lt;/a&gt; Re-negotiated their contract with Henry Blanco, due to concerns over the health of his shoulder.&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.statesman.com/sports/content/sports/stories/other/2009/12/10/1210baseball.html&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Orioles:&lt;/a&gt; Acquired Kevin Millwood from the Rangers for reliever Chris Ray and a PTBNL.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.gaslampball.com/2009/12/9/1193515/padres-request-unconditional&quot;&gt;Padres:&lt;/a&gt; Released pitcher Eulogio de la Cruz.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://blogs.suntimes.com/sportsprose/2009/12/rangers_close_to_deal_for_rich.html&quot;&gt;Rangers:&lt;/a&gt; Agreed to terms on a one year, $7.5 million deal with Rich Harden, with a club option for 2011 and &lt;a href=&quot;http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=4730311&amp;campaign=rss&amp;source=MLBHeadlines&quot;&gt;acquired Mike Lowell&lt;/a&gt; from the Red Sox for catcher Max Ramirez.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20091210&amp;content_id=7791568&amp;vkey=news_mlb&amp;fext=.jsp&amp;c_id=mlb&quot;&gt;Rays:&lt;/a&gt; Acquired Rafael Soriano from the Braves for reliever Jesse Chavez.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2009/12/red-sox-acquire-boof-bonser.html?utm_source=feedburner&amp;utm_medium=feed&amp;utm_campaign=Feed%3A+MlbTradeRumors+%28MLB+Trade+Rumors%29&amp;utm_content=Google+Reader&quot;&gt;Red Sox:&lt;/a&gt; Acquired Boof Bonser from the Twins for a PTBNL or cash.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://kaegel.mlblogs.com/archives/2009/12/royals_release_dh_mike_jacobs.html&quot;&gt;Royals:&lt;/a&gt; Released Mike Jacobs and pitcher John Bale&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.blessyouboys.com/2009/12/9/1193715/freddy-dolsi-dusty-ryan-designated&quot;&gt;Tigers:&lt;/a&gt; Designated pitcher Freddy Dolsi and catcher Dusty Ryan for assignment.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Two former Brewers continue to search for work, and for once I'd rather have Jay Gibbons. Jason Kendall has &lt;a href=&quot;http://albethke.blogspot.com/2009/12/bob-dutton-reports-that-former-brewers.html&quot;&gt;received a two-year offer from the Royals&lt;/a&gt;, while Gibbons&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&quot;http://twitter.com/jaysonst/statuses/6514568418&quot;&gt;is drawing interest from the Dodgers&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;While some players are looking for new teams. J.J. Hardy is busy making friends with his. He recently &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.twincities.com/ci_13959883?source=most_viewed&quot;&gt;played in Harmon Killebrew's golf tournament&lt;/a&gt;, and the Hall of Famer had some nice things to say about him.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Easily the biggest trade at the meetings so far has been the three way deal involving the Tigers, Yankees and D-Backs. A lot of people are burying Arizona for giving up on Max Scherzer, but &lt;a href=&quot;http://baseballanalysts.com/archives/2009/12/ok_in_arizona.php&quot;&gt;Patrick Sullivan of The Baseball Analysts&lt;/a&gt; and I agree: The Diamondbacks might come out ahead in this deal, trading a pitcher with an unsure future for two that might pitch in their rotation this season. Meanwhile, no one seems to mention that the Yankees traded two starters and a center fielder for one player.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Ever wonder what folks in minor league front offices do during the offseason? I don't know, but the Timber Rattlers' &lt;a href=&quot;http://rattler-radio.blogspot.com/2009/12/premier-episode.html&quot;&gt;premiere episode of The Offseason&lt;/a&gt; would suggest they have some time on their hands.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;With Jason Kendall gone, I guess we probably won't be talking about plunkings as much, and that's probably ok. With that said, Jeremy Greenhouse of The Baseball Analysts has &lt;a href=&quot;http://baseballanalysts.com/archives/2009/12/crowding_the_pl.php&quot;&gt;a look at the probability of getting hit by a pitch&lt;/a&gt;, and what matchups and velocities make a batter most likely to get plunked.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It's been a pretty busy week at the Winter Meetings, and the flow of information has been dizzying at times. Just imagine how fast information would flow out &lt;a href=&quot;http://bases.nbcsports.com/2009/12/great-moments-in-technology.html.php&quot;&gt;if the internet was working&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Still looking for a gift for someone this holiday season? I might have a suggestion for you. &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.bosmovie.com/&quot;&gt;Boys of Summer&lt;/a&gt; is a documentary chronicling Robert Cochrane and his father's summer long road trip to visit all 30 major league parks. The film is now available on DVD for the first time, with all proceeds going to the Michael J. Fox Foundation to help support research on Parkinson's Disease.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;On this day in 1986, the Brewers sent Tim Crews and Tim Leary to the Dodgers for first baseman Greg Brock. Brock would go on to hit .261/.348/.387 over five seasons as a Brewer.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Happy birthday today to Doug Henry, who turns 46. Henry pitched the first four seasons of his major league career (1991-1994) as a Brewer, racking up 61 saves.&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;With the '00's almost behind us, it's time to take a look back and work together to make a BCB All Decade team for the '00s. Each day, we'll tackle a new position, and we'll have our 25 man roster complete sometime around the 1st of the year.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The concept here is pretty simple. Each day, I'll give you a list of candidates: For position players, it's the full list of players who appeared in at least 100 games at the position during the '00s. You'll have 48 hours to vote. Voting for our first position, first base, is officially closed, and &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sbnation.com/mlb/players/839/Prince_Fielder&quot; class=&quot;sbn-auto-link&quot;&gt;Prince Fielder&lt;/a&gt; is the first member of the team. Voting for second base opened yesterday and will close at 4 pm tomorrow.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Today, we continue to work our way around the infield. Here are the candidates at shortstop:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sbnation.com/mlb/players/32584/Jose_Hernandez&quot; class=&quot;sbn-auto-link&quot;&gt;Jose Hernandez&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;Seasons as a Brewer: &lt;/b&gt;3, 2000-2002&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;Slash line as a Brewer: &lt;/b&gt;.261/.324/.434&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;UZR (Fielding) as a Brewer:&lt;/b&gt; +4.7 runs*&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;WAR as a Brewer: &lt;/b&gt;5.8&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;* - FanGraphs only has UZR data dating back to 2002, so only Hernandez's 2002 season is included here.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sbnation.com/mlb/players/349/Mark_Loretta&quot; class=&quot;sbn-auto-link&quot;&gt;Mark Loretta&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;Seasons as a Brewer: &lt;/b&gt;3, 2000-2002*&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;Slash line as a Brewer: &lt;/b&gt;.281/.348/.374&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;UZR (Fielding) as a Brewer: &lt;/b&gt;-2.7 runs**&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;WAR as a Brewer: &lt;/b&gt;1.8&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;* - Loretta was also a Brewer from 1995-1999, but those numbers aren't included here.&lt;br /&gt;** - Again, FanGraphs only has UZR data from 2002 forward, so only Loretta's 2002 season is included here.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sbnation.com/mlb/players/1048/Bill_Hall&quot; class=&quot;sbn-auto-link&quot;&gt;Bill Hall&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;Seasons as a Brewer: &lt;/b&gt;8, 2002-2009*&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;Slash line as a Brewer: &lt;/b&gt;.253/.312/.446&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;UZR (Fielding) as a Brewer: &lt;/b&gt;+2.3 runs&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;WAR as a Brewer: &lt;/b&gt;7.3&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt; &lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;* - Hall only played shortstop in five seasons, from 2002-2006.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sbnation.com/mlb/players/868/Royce_Clayton&quot; class=&quot;sbn-auto-link&quot;&gt;Royce Clayton&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;Seasons as a Brewer: &lt;/b&gt;1, 2003&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;Slash line as a Brewer: &lt;/b&gt;.228/.301/.333&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;UZR (Fielding) as a Brewer: &lt;/b&gt;+1.6 runs&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;WAR as a Brewer: &lt;/b&gt;-0.3&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sbnation.com/mlb/players/846/Craig_Counsell&quot; class=&quot;sbn-auto-link&quot;&gt;Craig Counsell&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;Seasons as a Brewer: &lt;/b&gt;4, 2004, 2007-2009&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;Slash line as a Brewer: &lt;/b&gt;.247/.341/.338&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;UZR (Fielding) as a Brewer: &lt;/b&gt;+8.1 runs&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;WAR as a Brewer: &lt;/b&gt;5.0&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sbnation.com/mlb/players/837/J_J_Hardy&quot; class=&quot;sbn-auto-link&quot;&gt;J.J. Hardy&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;Seasons as a Brewer: &lt;/b&gt;5, 2005-2009&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;Slash line as a Brewer: &lt;/b&gt;.262/.323/.428&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;UZR (Fielding) as a Brewer: &lt;/b&gt;+38.3 runs&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;WAR as a Brewer: &lt;/b&gt;8.6&lt;/p&gt;

  


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      <author>Jesse</author>
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&lt;h4&gt;Sure, it's a rumor-filled week that generally leads to nothing.&amp;nbsp; But it's still a rumor-filled week, and to me that equals fun.&lt;/h4&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sbnation.com/mlb/teams/MIN&quot; class=&quot;sbn-auto-link&quot;&gt;Twins&lt;/a&gt; Needs&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Second Base&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Third Base&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Starting Pitcher&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Bench Depth&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sbnation.com/mlb/players/648/Joe_Mauer&quot; class=&quot;sbn-auto-link&quot;&gt;Joe Mauer&lt;/a&gt; Extension&lt;/li&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;Between LEN III and Joe C., the Twins have been tied to a few names already this off-season:&amp;nbsp; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sbnation.com/mlb/players/700/Mark_DeRosa&quot; class=&quot;sbn-auto-link&quot;&gt;Mark DeRosa&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sbnation.com/mlb/players/71/Rich_Harden&quot; class=&quot;sbn-auto-link&quot;&gt;Rich Harden&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sbnation.com/mlb/players/854/Adrian_Beltre&quot; class=&quot;sbn-auto-link&quot;&gt;Adrian Beltre&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sbnation.com/mlb/players/1063/Jarrod_Washburn&quot; class=&quot;sbn-auto-link&quot;&gt;Jarrod Washburn&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sbnation.com/mlb/players/685/Orlando_Hudson&quot; class=&quot;sbn-auto-link&quot;&gt;Orlando Hudson&lt;/a&gt;.&amp;nbsp; There has been little speculation fueled by comments from the front office, although this has been commonplace during the Bill Smith era.&amp;nbsp; Now entering his third Winter Meetings and in the best position to win since taking on the role of General Manager, it will be interesting to see if the rumors lead to anything concrete this season.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Obviously the Twins are still in the market for at least one infielder after picking up &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sbnation.com/mlb/players/837/J_J_Hardy&quot; class=&quot;sbn-auto-link&quot;&gt;J.J. Hardy&lt;/a&gt; a few weeks ago, and the recent (and early) signings of &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sbnation.com/mlb/players/636/Chone_Figgins&quot; class=&quot;sbn-auto-link&quot;&gt;Chone Figgins&lt;/a&gt; (four years, $36 million), &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sbnation.com/mlb/players/273/Placido_Polanco&quot; class=&quot;sbn-auto-link&quot;&gt;Placido Polanco&lt;/a&gt; (three years, $18 million) and &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sbnation.com/mlb/players/61/Marco_Scutaro&quot; class=&quot;sbn-auto-link&quot;&gt;Marco Scutaro&lt;/a&gt; (two years, $12.5 million with an option for more) seem to set the market for starting infielders.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Considering the combination of age and history I feel like all three teams overpaid, on either years or dollars or both.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.twinkietown.com/2008/12/7/684285/winter-meetings-primer-200&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;Last season at this time&lt;/a&gt; there was a lot of talk surrounding &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sbnation.com/mlb/players/91/Casey_Blake&quot; class=&quot;sbn-auto-link&quot;&gt;Casey Blake&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sbnation.com/mlb/players/491/Garrett_Atkins&quot; class=&quot;sbn-auto-link&quot;&gt;Garrett Atkins&lt;/a&gt;, and there's been nothing quite like that this season.&amp;nbsp; This front office, and I've said it before, plays things notoriously close to the vest.&amp;nbsp; Sure, it might not make for interesting discussion fodder, but it serves the best interests of the team.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;A vast majority of the time all of the rumors and speculation lead to absolutely nothing during the week of the Winter Meetings.&amp;nbsp; The common theme is for teams to read each other and, if possible, lay a foundation for things to happen over the following weeks.&amp;nbsp; But that doesn't mean we won't hear some interesting tidbits over the next few days.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;Names of Interest &lt;i&gt;(after the break)&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;


  
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;Adrian Beltre&lt;/b&gt; - With the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sbnation.com/mlb/teams/PHI&quot; class=&quot;sbn-auto-link&quot;&gt;Phillies&lt;/a&gt; signing Polanco, one of the Twins main competetors for the free agent third baseman may have just taken themselves out of the market.&amp;nbsp; The biggest issue surrounding Beltre is Scott Boraas and his $10 million per year asking price.&amp;nbsp; Even for his glove, I'm not sure Minnesota is going to fork out that kind of money for Beltre.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;Mark DeRosa&lt;/b&gt; - He's also been rumored to be asking for nearly $10 million per season.&amp;nbsp; Yikes.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;Josh Johnson&lt;/b&gt; - The &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sbnation.com/mlb/teams/FLA&quot; class=&quot;sbn-auto-link&quot;&gt;Marlins&lt;/a&gt; have said that Johnson won't be traded this off-season, but it's always hard to tell what's truth and what's posturing.&amp;nbsp; If his name comes up this week, or at anytime over the next couple of months, I'll be listening.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;Rich Harden&lt;/b&gt; - Along with &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sbnation.com/mlb/players/1053/Ben_Sheets&quot; class=&quot;sbn-auto-link&quot;&gt;Ben Sheets&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sbnation.com/mlb/players/32/Erik_Bedard&quot; class=&quot;sbn-auto-link&quot;&gt;Erik Bedard&lt;/a&gt;, it will be interesting to see how much teams are willing to gamble on these guys.&amp;nbsp; Will the Twins maintain their interest in Harden?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sbnation.com/mlb/players/32402/Jed_Lowrie&quot; class=&quot;sbn-auto-link&quot;&gt;Jed Lowrie&lt;/a&gt; - With the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sbnation.com/mlb/teams/BOS&quot; class=&quot;sbn-auto-link&quot;&gt;Red Sox&lt;/a&gt; the proud owners of a Scutaro, will he be on the block?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sbnation.com/mlb/players/631/Carl_Pavano&quot; class=&quot;sbn-auto-link&quot;&gt;Carl Pavano&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;- Will he accept arbitration?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sbnation.com/mlb/players/426/Dan_Uggla&quot; class=&quot;sbn-auto-link&quot;&gt;Dan Uggla&lt;/a&gt; -&amp;nbsp; The Marlins second baseman has been linked to about half of the teams in baseball at some point over the last couple of months, although no team has been connected more often than the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sbnation.com/mlb/teams/SFG&quot; class=&quot;sbn-auto-link&quot;&gt;Giants&lt;/a&gt;.&amp;nbsp; His offense as a second baseman is superior, and in spite of his defense is still probably a three-win player.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;In Closing&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The Winter Meetings this season aren't set to be quite as interesting as they were the last couple of seasons, if only because the first thing on everyone's mind isn't really who else the front office can bring in but who can they sign to an extension.&amp;nbsp; &quot;&lt;a href=&quot;http://blogs2.startribune.com/blogs/neal/2009/12/03/afternoon-briefing/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;General discussions&lt;/a&gt;&quot; between the Twins and Mauer have begun, but nothing hard core so far, so stay tuned.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It's an exciting time of year.&amp;nbsp; Be sure to keep checking back here for the latest rumblings and grumblings.&lt;/p&gt;
  


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        &lt;label for=&quot;poll_option_263064&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;option&quot;&gt;They'll pull off some kind of a trade&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/label&gt;&lt;/li&gt;

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        &lt;label for=&quot;poll_option_263065&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;option&quot;&gt;They'll lay foundations for discussions after the meetings&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/label&gt;&lt;/li&gt;

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      <title>The Weekend Mug, now with more Australians!  And another Canadian!</title>
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      <author>NoahJ</author>
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&lt;p&gt;Some things to read while on &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.collegehumor.com/article:1794889&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;a social networking site far, far away.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;So far this is my second week doing the weekend post.&amp;nbsp; My first weekend was immediately after the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sbnation.com/mlb/players/904/Carlos_Gomez&quot; class=&quot;sbn-auto-link&quot;&gt;Carlos Gomez&lt;/a&gt; trade, and this weekend comes after the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sbnation.com/mlb/teams/MIL&quot; class=&quot;sbn-auto-link&quot;&gt;Brewers&lt;/a&gt; announce signing &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sbnation.com/mlb/players/867/Gregg_Zaun&quot; class=&quot;sbn-auto-link&quot;&gt;Gregg Zaun&lt;/a&gt;.&amp;nbsp; It's my turn again the weekend following Christmas, so maybe Brewers fans can be expecting a Christmas present from Doug Melvin and the gang.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;About the Zaun signing:&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;li&gt;Adam McCalvy tells us that Zaun &lt;a href=&quot;http://twitter.com/AdamMcCalvy/statuses/6346929741&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;was assured the starting catching spot&lt;/a&gt;.&amp;nbsp; Zaun has played more than 110 games only once in his career and more than 100 games four times, and he's not getting any younger.&amp;nbsp; There should be plenty of opportunities for whoever the backup catcher should be.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Right Field Bleachers &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.rightfieldbleachers.com/?p=5877&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;thinks that backup will be either Mike Rivera or George Kottaras&lt;/a&gt;, with the idea being another year of minor league polishing for &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sbnation.com/mlb/players/48582/Angel_Salome&quot; class=&quot;sbn-auto-link&quot;&gt;Angel Salome&lt;/a&gt; and Jonathon Lucroy.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;In Between Hops &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.inbetweenhops.com/2009/12/brewers-sign-gregg-zzzzzzzaun.html&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;likens Zaun to a cheaper Jason Kendall&lt;/a&gt;.&amp;nbsp; Neither is very good at hitting (some would claim they are atrocious), but over the last three years, Zaun has been Kendalls slight superior in OBP and has been significantly better slugging.&amp;nbsp; Zaun did this in close to half of the plate appearances of Kendall.&amp;nbsp; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;I think that View From Bernie's Chalet &lt;a href=&quot;http://viewfrombernieschalet.blogspot.com/2009/12/miller-park-will-be-zaunbieland-in-2010.html&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;is more excited about the end of the Jason Kendall era&lt;/a&gt; than for the signing of Zaun.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Brewers! Brewers! Keep Turning Up the Heat! &lt;a href=&quot;http://danandsteve.com/2009/12/04/bring-your-z-game/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;finds the signing to be strange&lt;/a&gt; and suggests that Milwaukee had enough readily available options.&amp;nbsp; Personally, I prefer having someone like Zaun around.&amp;nbsp; I don't think that Rivera would be a viable option to start the whole season, and the other options (Kottaras, Lucroy and Salome) are all younger and could really struggle, particularly Lucroy who would be skipping triple-A.&amp;nbsp; I think that I would like Lucroy to either back up Zaun for the first couple months of the season (like I said, there should be plenty of opportunities) or for him to be called up sometime in June provided he isn't massively struggling in Nashville.&amp;nbsp; Gradually working in what appears to be the heir apparent to the Catchers position seems like a much better idea than throwing him straight into the fire.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;And the Grand National Championships thinks &lt;a href=&quot;http://cakerockstheparty.blogspot.com/2009/12/gregg-zaun.html&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;this is the most logical move in the history of sports.&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Oh, and if I ever met Gregg Zaun, he does &lt;a href=&quot;http://brewcitysports.blogspot.com/2009/12/holy-fucking-shit-brewers-land-gregg.html&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;not look like a guy I would want to piss off&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/li&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;Also from the Grand National Championships, they believe that re-signing &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sbnation.com/mlb/players/846/Craig_Counsell&quot; class=&quot;sbn-auto-link&quot;&gt;Craig Counsell&lt;/a&gt;--who Doug Melvin &lt;a href=&quot;http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20091204&amp;content_id=7756488&amp;vkey=news_mlb&amp;fext=.jsp&amp;c_id=mlb&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;has made an offer to&lt;/a&gt;--would &lt;a href=&quot;http://cakerockstheparty.blogspot.com/2009/12/you-know-what.html&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;be a bad idea and suggests signing someone like Esteban German instead&lt;/a&gt;.&amp;nbsp; If we were to go with someone else, I think that going with someone in house (like &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sbnation.com/mlb/players/34168/Adam_Heether&quot; class=&quot;sbn-auto-link&quot;&gt;Adam Heether&lt;/a&gt;) would be just as good as signing someone from outside the organization.&amp;nbsp; I also think that a player like Craig Counsell is a boon to any team, though, and would serve as a very very good mentor to &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sbnation.com/mlb/players/31609/Alcides_Escobar&quot; class=&quot;sbn-auto-link&quot;&gt;Alcides Escobar&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The Brewers also signed former Diamondback and full-time Australian Trent &lt;strike&gt;Durrington&lt;/strike&gt; Oltjean...&lt;a href=&quot;http://brewcitysports.blogspot.com/2009/12/pretty-sure-brewers-just-reacquired.html&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;whichever&lt;/a&gt;.&amp;nbsp; Brew City Sports tried to reach him for comment, but unfortunately, Oltjean was too busy doing&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&quot;http://brewcitysports.blogspot.com/2009/12/holy-fucking-shit-brewers-land-trent.html&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;Australian type activities&lt;/a&gt;.&amp;nbsp; Oltjean is expected to provide protection for Ryan Braun in the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.azsnakepit.com/2009/12/4/1186205/oeltjen-signs-with-brewers-hearts&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;cuteness batting order&lt;/a&gt; after the departure of &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sbnation.com/mlb/players/837/J_J_Hardy&quot; class=&quot;sbn-auto-link&quot;&gt;J.J. Hardy&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;For those hoping that the Brewers decide to pursue &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sbnation.com/mlb/players/923/Brad_Penny&quot; class=&quot;sbn-auto-link&quot;&gt;Brad Penny&lt;/a&gt;, the bad news is that he &lt;a href=&quot;http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=4715676&amp;campaign=rss&amp;source=MLBHeadlines&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;rejected a one year offer to stay with the GIants&lt;/a&gt;.&amp;nbsp; So it looks like any team that wants to sign him would either have to offer multiple years or a pretty significant--and guarenteed--amount of money for one year.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In Between Hops &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.inbetweenhops.com/2009/12/rise-and-fall-of-billy-hall.html&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;reminds us again &lt;/a&gt;of the comparison that can be made between &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sbnation.com/mlb/players/31596/Casey_McGehee&quot; class=&quot;sbn-auto-link&quot;&gt;Casey McGehee&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sbnation.com/mlb/players/1048/Bill_Hall&quot; class=&quot;sbn-auto-link&quot;&gt;Bill Hall&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Around the Majors:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sbnation.com/mlb/teams/ATL&quot; class=&quot;sbn-auto-link&quot;&gt;Atlanta Braves&lt;/a&gt;:&amp;nbsp; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sbnation.com/mlb/players/966/Rafael_Soriano&quot; class=&quot;sbn-auto-link&quot;&gt;Rafael Soriano&lt;/a&gt; is considering &lt;a href=&quot;http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=4717127&amp;campaign=rss&amp;source=MLBHeadlines&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;accepting their offer of arbitration&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sbnation.com/mlb/teams/CHC&quot; class=&quot;sbn-auto-link&quot;&gt;Chicago Cubs&lt;/a&gt;:&amp;nbsp; Could announce a signing of &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sbnation.com/mlb/players/200/Mike_Cameron&quot; class=&quot;sbn-auto-link&quot;&gt;Mike Cameron&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.lonestarball.com/2009/12/5/1187310/cubs-could-announce-a-deal-with&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;as soon as Monday&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sbnation.com/mlb/teams/HOU&quot; class=&quot;sbn-auto-link&quot;&gt;Houston Astros&lt;/a&gt;: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.crawfishboxes.com/2009/12/5/1187023/astros-sign-sf-pitcher-sadowskly&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;Signed former&lt;/a&gt; Giant Ryan Sadowski&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sbnation.com/mlb/teams/KAN&quot; class=&quot;sbn-auto-link&quot;&gt;Kansas City Royals&lt;/a&gt;:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2009/12/royals-close-to-signing-arguelles.html&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt; Signed Cuban lefty &lt;/a&gt;Noel Arguelles&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sbnation.com/mlb/teams/MIN&quot; class=&quot;sbn-auto-link&quot;&gt;Minnesota Twins&lt;/a&gt;: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2009/12/miguel-sano-officially-signs-with-twins.html?utm_source=feedburner&amp;utm_medium=feed&amp;utm_campaign=Feed%3A+MlbTradeRumors+%28MLB+Trade+Rumors%29&amp;utm_content=Google+Reader&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;Signed 16 year old Dominican Shortstop&lt;/a&gt; Miguel Sano.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sbnation.com/mlb/teams/SEA&quot; class=&quot;sbn-auto-link&quot;&gt;Seattle Mariners&lt;/a&gt; and Jack Z: Signed Chone Figgins to &lt;a href=&quot;http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/sports/2010428817_apbbamarinersfiggins.html&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;a $36MM, 4 year deal.&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;If you were disappointed when they announced they were shutting down production, good news!&amp;nbsp; A movie adaptation of Moneyball&lt;a href=&quot;http://bases.nbcsports.com/2009/12/moneyball-movie-back-on-track.html.php&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt; is going to be back underway&lt;/a&gt;!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Oh, and potentially the most exciting news of the day, Metsblog cites Will Carroll of Baseball Prospectus as saying that&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.metsblog.com/2009/12/04/buzz-big-mlb-announcement-at-winter-meetings/?utm_source=feedburner&amp;utm_medium=feed&amp;utm_campaign=Feed%3A+metsblogfeed+%28MetsBlog.com%29&amp;utm_content=Google+Reader&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt; there will be two big announcements at the winter meetings&lt;/a&gt; that will be way bigger than &quot;any player signing or news made during&quot;.&amp;nbsp; I don't have any idea what it could be, so feel free to speculate.&lt;/p&gt;

  


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      <author>Ben Buchanan</author>
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&lt;p style=&quot;margin-bottom: 0in;&quot;&gt;Last year, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sbnation.com/mlb/players/61/Marco_Scutaro&quot; class=&quot;sbn-auto-link&quot;&gt;Marco Scutaro&lt;/a&gt; posted a line of .282/.379/.409, well above his production during any other year of his career to date. Given that this happened at age 34 with a slightly inflated BABIP and an unusually low GB:FB rate, it seems likely that Scutaro will fail to live up to those numbers this year. Bill James, for one, predicts he will regress to a .264/.347/.381 hitter.&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p style=&quot;margin-bottom: 0in;&quot;&gt;When talking about the shortstop position on this team, one has to temper their expectations. While we would all like to have Hanley back, or be able to pencil &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sbnation.com/mlb/players/493/Troy_Tulowitzki&quot; class=&quot;sbn-auto-link&quot;&gt;Troy Tulowitzki&lt;/a&gt; into a lineup, that simply isn't a realistic scenario. What we are confronted with instead is a team which received a .656 OPS from the various men who manned the position last year. One which has had player after player make game-deciding errors.&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p style=&quot;margin-bottom: 0in;&quot;&gt;And what were our options to fix this? &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sbnation.com/mlb/players/837/J_J_Hardy&quot; class=&quot;sbn-auto-link&quot;&gt;J.J. Hardy&lt;/a&gt; got snatched up quickly by the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sbnation.com/mlb/teams/MIN&quot; class=&quot;sbn-auto-link&quot;&gt;Twins&lt;/a&gt;. The front office is unwilling to trust &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sbnation.com/mlb/players/32402/Jed_Lowrie&quot; class=&quot;sbn-auto-link&quot;&gt;Jed Lowrie&lt;/a&gt; until he has convinced them he can still hit from the left side. Many seemed downright &lt;i&gt;excited &lt;/i&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-style: normal;&quot;&gt;to settle for a defensive-replacement type shortstop and accept a big old hole in the 9-spot again, or to try kooky experimental options which involved sacrificing &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sbnation.com/mlb/players/173/Dustin_Pedroia&quot; class=&quot;sbn-auto-link&quot;&gt;Dustin Pedroia&lt;/a&gt;'s extraordinary defense at second by moving him to a position his arm isn't suited for.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p style=&quot;margin-bottom: 0in;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-style: normal;&quot;&gt;If you ask me, that would be settling. Scutaro is not.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p style=&quot;margin-bottom: 0in;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-style: normal;&quot;&gt;What Marco Scutaro brings to the table is average. Not batting average, but just being average. It doesn't sound nice&amp;mdash;it's the antithesis of flashy&amp;mdash;but it is average at a position where our play has been anything but for the last 5 years. This is a position where Nick Green's random hot streak actually gave us hope.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p style=&quot;margin-bottom: 0in;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-style: normal;&quot;&gt;On offense, Scutaro is not going to kill the ball. If he manages to slug .400 he'll be overachieving. But he does avoid that black-hole designation. While many aspects that contributed to Scutaro's career year are subject to regression, I for one don't believe that his plate discipline is one of them. Scutaro has maintained an OBP over .330 for the last 4 years, and I wouldn't be surprised if it stayed north of .350 this year as he continues to make pitchers work and takes advantage of walks. .379 might be a bit high to maintain, but we don't need that from a #9 hitter. We just need him to be average.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p style=&quot;margin-bottom: 0in;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-style: normal;&quot;&gt;Scutaro's defense should also be, at worst, average. While a cursory glance at his fielding RAR shows inconsistency in the past, Scutaro has spent the last 2500-or-so innings playing average-to-great defense. Going even further in depth, there's definitely a suggestion that Scutaro benefits from consistent playing time. His range at shortstop has never been impressive, only once (2008) breaking into positive numbers. What's made him into an average fielding shortstop of late is that he's not hurting himself via the error, going from .3 runs below average in 2006, to .6 above average in 2007, 1.9 above in 2008, and finally 4.6 above in 2009. What we're left with now is a guy who, while he may not get to every ball, will turn the ones he does get to into outs at a consistent rate. No more frusturation of Renteria or Lugo. No excitement, either. Just consistency.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p style=&quot;margin-bottom: 0in;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-style: normal;&quot;&gt;And who knows, maybe we get lucky. It's worth noting that Marco Scutaro DID post a wOBA of .354 last year. That he was worth 11.2 fielding runs above average in 2008. The potential is there just like it was for, say, a J.J. Hardy. Scutaro &lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;can&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-style: normal;&quot;&gt; be great like he was last year. He can be worth $20 million where we're only paying him 5. But the important point to take away from it all is that we don't need him to be. Critics of this deal claim Theo is trying to capture lightning in a bottle the way he did with Lugo, but nothing could be further from the truth. Instead, Epstein is trying to put out a 5-year-old wildfire by getting someone we can depend on to be, if nothing else, average.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

  


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&lt;p&gt;&lt;img src=&quot;http://www.blessyouboys.com/images/admin/stripes_box.jpg&quot; /&gt;&amp;nbsp; This week at &lt;i&gt;Mack Avenue &lt;span class=&quot;sbn-auto-link&quot;&gt;Tigers&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;, &lt;b&gt;Kurt Mensching&lt;/b&gt; takes an in-depth look at &lt;b&gt;Dave Dombrowski&lt;/b&gt;'s work as general manager since he's been in charge of the Tigers. &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.mackavenuetigers.com/home/2009/11/30/dombrowski-series-introducing-the-gambler.html&quot;&gt;How does he approach his work&lt;/a&gt;? How has he remade the franchise in &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.mackavenuetigers.com/home/2009/11/30/dombrowski-series-a-history-of-the-tigers-2001-2009.html&quot;&gt;his eight years&lt;/a&gt; with Detroit? How has he developed &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.mackavenuetigers.com/home/2009/11/30/dombrowski-series-developing-the-organization.html&quot;&gt;the minor league system&lt;/a&gt;? What is his approach to &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.mackavenuetigers.com/home/2009/12/1/dombrowski-a-look-at-his-trade-philosophies-and-results.html?utm_source=feedburner&amp;utm_medium=feed&amp;utm_campaign=Feed%3A+mackavenuetigers+%28Mack+Avenue+Tigers%3A+A+Detroit+Tigers+Blog%29&amp;utm_content=Google+Reader&quot;&gt;making trades&lt;/a&gt;?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Dombrowski's taken quite a bit of criticism so far this offseason, so this &quot;big picture&quot; look at his tenure as Tigers' GM comes at the right time. And maybe it clues us in as to what can be expected in the weeks to come.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;img src=&quot;http://www.blessyouboys.com/images/admin/stripes_box.jpg&quot; /&gt;&amp;nbsp; The &lt;i&gt;Chicago Tribune&lt;/i&gt;'s &lt;b&gt;Phil Rogers&lt;/b&gt; had &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/chi-29-rogers-whispers-nov29,0,2947061.column&quot;&gt;three Tigers-related notes &lt;/a&gt;in his Sunday &quot;Whispers&quot; column: 1) The &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sbnation.com/mlb/teams/MIL&quot; class=&quot;sbn-auto-link&quot;&gt;Brewers&lt;/a&gt; were interested in &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sbnation.com/mlb/players/272/Curtis_Granderson&quot; class=&quot;sbn-auto-link&quot;&gt;Curtis Granderson&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt; before they dealt &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sbnation.com/mlb/players/837/J_J_Hardy&quot; class=&quot;sbn-auto-link&quot;&gt;J.J. Hardy&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt; to the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sbnation.com/mlb/teams/MIN&quot; class=&quot;sbn-auto-link&quot;&gt;Twins&lt;/a&gt;, but Detroit wanted more than a shortstop in return. 2) The &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sbnation.com/mlb/teams/CHC&quot; class=&quot;sbn-auto-link&quot;&gt;Cubs&lt;/a&gt; want Granderson, but not at the cost of &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sbnation.com/mlb/players/704/Carlos_Marmol&quot; class=&quot;sbn-auto-link&quot;&gt;Carlos Marmol&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt; or &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sbnation.com/mlb/players/70863/Starlin_Castro&quot; class=&quot;sbn-auto-link&quot;&gt;Starlin Castro&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;. 3) The Tigers are one of several teams scouting &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sbnation.com/mlb/players/794/Jake_Fox&quot; class=&quot;sbn-auto-link&quot;&gt;Jake Fox&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/b&gt;(11 homers in 241 plate appearances this year).&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;img src=&quot;http://www.blessyouboys.com/images/admin/stripes_box.jpg&quot; /&gt;&amp;nbsp; If Granderson was traded, &lt;a href=&quot;http://beck.mlblogs.com/archives/2009/11/ramirez_to_replace_granderson.html&quot;&gt;who takes over in centerfield&lt;/a&gt;? &lt;b&gt;Jason Beck&lt;/b&gt; addresses this question, and eliminates &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sbnation.com/mlb/players/31847/Wilkin_Ramirez&quot; class=&quot;sbn-auto-link&quot;&gt;Wilkin Ramirez&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt; from consideration. Mostly because he's played all of two games in center during his minor league career.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Beck also says signing a veteran centerfielder, such as &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sbnation.com/mlb/players/200/Mike_Cameron&quot; class=&quot;sbn-auto-link&quot;&gt;Mike Cameron&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;, would be another possibility. (I wish Detroit would sign Cameron to play left field.) But Cameron made $10 million this season. Even if he took a pay cut, he'd probably cost more than Granderson.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;img src=&quot;http://www.blessyouboys.com/images/admin/stripes_box.jpg&quot; /&gt;&amp;nbsp; One more note from Beck: The &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sbnation.com/mlb/teams/DET&quot;&gt;Tigers&lt;/a&gt; received&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&quot;http://twitter.com/beckjason/status/6211988156&quot;&gt;$590,731.18&lt;/a&gt; in postseason shares for their second-place finish in the AL Central. (The Twins got &lt;span class=&quot;status-body&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;entry-content&quot;&gt;$1,772,193.48 for winning the division.)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;


  
&lt;p&gt;&lt;img src=&quot;http://www.blessyouboys.com/images/admin/stripes_box.jpg&quot; /&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;i&gt;Big League Stew&lt;/i&gt; ranked the &lt;a href=&quot;http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/blog/big_league_stew/post/Bonds-756th-leads-the-decade-s-biggest-big-mom?urn=mlb,203435&quot;&gt;10 best &quot;big moment&quot; home runs&lt;/a&gt; of the past decade. &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sbnation.com/mlb/players/275/Magglio_Ordonez&quot; class=&quot;sbn-auto-link&quot;&gt;Magglio Ordonez&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;'s 2006 ALCS-winning homer is on the list. But would you have ranked it higher or lower, or did 'Duk get it just about right?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;img src=&quot;http://www.blessyouboys.com/images/admin/stripes_box.jpg&quot; /&gt;&amp;nbsp; Top prospect rankings are en vogue this time of year. &lt;b&gt;Lynn Henning&lt;/b&gt; takes a crack with &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.detnews.com/article/20091128/SPORTS0104/911280389/1129/rss15&quot;&gt;his top 20 Tigers prospects&lt;/a&gt;, and it's interesting to compare his list to others. &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sbnation.com/mlb/players/61108/Casper_Wells&quot; class=&quot;sbn-auto-link&quot;&gt;Casper Wells&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;, for example, rates higher with Henning than &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=9796&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;Kevin Goldstein&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;img src=&quot;http://www.blessyouboys.com/images/admin/stripes_box.jpg&quot; /&gt;&amp;nbsp; If eight teams are interested in reliever &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sbnation.com/mlb/players/937/Takashi_Saito&quot; class=&quot;sbn-auto-link&quot;&gt;Takashi Saito&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;, as &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.npbtracker.com/2009/11/free-agents-saito-nishi-kobayashi/&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;NPB Tracker&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/a&gt; says (I'm going to trust their translation), could the Tigers be one of them? This year with the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sbnation.com/mlb/teams/BOS&quot; class=&quot;sbn-auto-link&quot;&gt;Red Sox&lt;/a&gt;, Saito struck out 52 and walked 25 in 55.2 innings. He posted a 3-3 record and 2.43 ERA, all for $1.5 million.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;(via &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2009/11/eight-teams-interested-in-takashi-saito.html&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;MLB Trade Rumors&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/a&gt;)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;img src=&quot;http://www.blessyouboys.com/images/admin/stripes_box.jpg&quot; /&gt;&amp;nbsp; This isn't Tigers-related, but &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.waynefontes.com/&quot;&gt;Big Al&lt;/a&gt;'s our buddy, so we link to him when we can. His explanation of &lt;a href=&quot;http://blog.mlive.com/its-just-sports/2009/11/chronicling_the_most_annoying.html&quot;&gt;the most annoying types&lt;/a&gt; of Lions fans is spot-on. And unfortunately, it hits a little close to home with me. I often talk about how the Lions have broken me as a fan and I intend to switch my allegiances elsewhere.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In my defense, however, as much as I talk about becoming a Seahawks or Jets fan, to name a couple of dalliances, I never actually follow through. I wish I could quit the Lions.&lt;/p&gt;
  


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      <author>Charlie</author>
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&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/story/12585816/save-this-franchise-brewers-will-require-a-little-magic-to-repair/rss&quot;&gt;Here's&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;an interesting (and fun-to-read) article about the problems the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sbnation.com/mlb/teams/MIL&quot; class=&quot;sbn-auto-link&quot;&gt;Brewers&lt;/a&gt; are facing this offseason. As much as I and others have presented the Brewers as a good example for the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sbnation.com/mlb/teams/PIT&quot; class=&quot;sbn-auto-link&quot;&gt;Pirates&lt;/a&gt; franchise, a dose of reality is in order. Their core of young stars burst onto the scene about as brightly as anyone could have hoped a couple years ago, but now they're getting expensive quickly. When they were trying to contend, they signed a number of players (&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sbnation.com/mlb/players/1051/Jeff_Suppan&quot; class=&quot;sbn-auto-link&quot;&gt;Jeff Suppan&lt;/a&gt; in particular) to contracts that now would be mildly annoying to a team like the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sbnation.com/mlb/teams/NYM&quot; class=&quot;sbn-auto-link&quot;&gt;Mets&lt;/a&gt; or the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sbnation.com/mlb/teams/CHC&quot; class=&quot;sbn-auto-link&quot;&gt;Cubs&lt;/a&gt;, but are a big problem for the Brewers. Several of their core players (&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sbnation.com/mlb/players/837/J_J_Hardy&quot; class=&quot;sbn-auto-link&quot;&gt;J.J. Hardy&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sbnation.com/mlb/players/1048/Bill_Hall&quot; class=&quot;sbn-auto-link&quot;&gt;Bill Hall&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sbnation.com/mlb/players/841/Corey_Hart&quot; class=&quot;sbn-auto-link&quot;&gt;Corey Hart&lt;/a&gt;) stalled after putting in a couple of good seasons, and now Milwaukee is pondering life without them. &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sbnation.com/mlb/players/1053/Ben_Sheets&quot; class=&quot;sbn-auto-link&quot;&gt;Ben Sheets&lt;/a&gt; is now a free agent. The back of the Brewers' rotation is uninspiring at best. They don't really have a catcher. Without major changes, they're probably hoping just to play .500 ball next year.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;They haven't been run perfectly. The Suppan contract was a terrible idea from the start, for example. But for a team to get as much right as the Brewers have the past five years and still be struggling seems unfair. They've added significant value to Major League Baseball as a whole by developing stars like Sheets, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sbnation.com/mlb/players/1052/Yovani_Gallardo&quot; class=&quot;sbn-auto-link&quot;&gt;Yovani Gallardo&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sbnation.com/mlb/players/839/Prince_Fielder&quot; class=&quot;sbn-auto-link&quot;&gt;Prince Fielder&lt;/a&gt;, and Ryan Braun. They've also spent relatively lavishly for a team in their situation. And they're still floundering.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It's not right. The Pirates have no one but themselves to blame for most of their current problems, but that could change in a few years. And even if Neal Huntington's plans work well, the Pirates will still probably looking at the Brewers' last few seasons--a couple of winning seasons, maybe a playoff appearance. For those things to happen would obviously be great, in a way, but that hardly seems like enough.&lt;/p&gt;
  


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Some things to read while &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.mordantorange.com/mo/?p=983&quot;&gt;getting the dog more fiber&lt;/a&gt;.

&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;While it's hardly Earth-shattering, the Brewers made an interesting move yesterday, &lt;a href=&quot;http://brewersbeat.mlblogs.com/archives/2009/11/brewers_claim_catcher_kottaras.html&quot;&gt;claiming catcher George Kottaras off waivers&lt;/a&gt; from Boston (&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.brewcrewball.com/2009/11/18/1163515/brewers-claim-george-kottoras-off&quot;&gt;FanShot&lt;/a&gt;). Kottaras is 26 and a former top prospect in the Padres organization. He reportedly requested his release, as he wasn't going to get much playing time with both Jason Varitek and Victor Martinez back in Boston next season. Here's a quick list of things to know about him:

&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;He appeared in three games for the Red Sox in 2008, but saw his first significant MLB action in 2009, when he hit .237/.308/.387 in 107 PAs (45 games).&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;He's spent parts of the last four seasons in AAA, hitting .239/.331/.424.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;He's out of options, so he'll either have to make the team in spring training or be placed on waivers.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;He's left handed. The other three Brewer catchers on the 40-man roster (Mike Rivera, Angel Salome and Jonathan Lucroy) are all righties.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;

Doug Melvin acknowledged that this move was made for depth, not because he sees Kottaras as a front line catcher in 2010. With that said, this move probably isn't good news for Mike Rivera. Rivera is 33 and eligible for arbitration for the first time this offseason, and the Brewers may see Kottaras as a player who could provide similar production for less money. With that said, &lt;a href=&quot;http://brewcitysports.blogspot.com/2009/11/holy-fucking-shit-brewers-sign-george.html&quot;&gt;Brew City Sports&lt;/a&gt; isn't too excited about him.

&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Kottaras wasn't the only player added to the roster yesterday: &lt;a href=&quot;http://brewersbeat.mlblogs.com/archives/2009/11/cain_rivas_get_40-man_spots.html&quot;&gt;Lorenzo Cain and pitcher Amaury Rivas&lt;/a&gt; were also added to the 40-man roster to protect them from the Rule 5 Draft in December (&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.brewcrewball.com/2009/11/18/1163121/lorenzo-cain-amaury-rivas-added-to&quot;&gt;FanShot&lt;/a&gt;). The Brewers still have four open spots on the roster, so they could feasibly add another player or two before tomorrow's deadline.

&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Unless another waiver claim comes up, it could be a quiet day today. Doug Melvin said the Brewers &lt;a href=&quot;http://brewersbeat.mlblogs.com/archives/2009/11/melvin_expects_counsell_co_to.html&quot;&gt;aren't likely to reach a deal&lt;/a&gt; with any of their pending free agents before they're allowed to negotiate with other teams tomorrow.

&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The neverending saga of Mark Mulder continues. Today, Tom H. says it &lt;a href=&quot;http://twitter.com/Haudricourt/statuses/5837818003&quot;&gt;would be a huge upset&lt;/a&gt; if Mark Mulder isn't a Brewer next spring. The only thing that moves slower than these negotiations is another Brewer free agent, Claudio Vargas.

&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Meanwhile, the field of contenders might be narrowing for Jarrod Washburn. &lt;a href=&quot;http://blog.thenewstribune.com/mariners/2009/11/18/on-washburns-radar-mariners-twins-brewers/&quot;&gt;Larry Larue of The Tacoma News Tribune&lt;/a&gt; says Washburn has expressed interest in playing for the Brewers, but is also considering the Twins and wouldn't mind returning to the Mariners (&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.brewcrewball.com/2009/11/18/1163582/washburns-interested-in-the-brewers&quot;&gt;FanShot&lt;/a&gt;).

&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;On another free agent front with mild Brewer interest: &lt;a href=&quot;http://fromthedugout.freedomblogging.com/2009/11/18/poll-who-will-sign-lackey/41049/&quot;&gt;The OC Register&lt;/a&gt; has a poll asking readers where John Lackey will sign. As of this writing, the Brewers were tied for ninth in the voting.

&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;As for moves that have already been made, Rubie Q &lt;a href=&quot;http://quevedobuffet.blogspot.com/2009/11/after-further-review-why-i-still-hate.html&quot;&gt;is still not happy&lt;/a&gt; about the J.J. Hardy deal, but Miller Park Drunk &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.millerparkdrunk.com/baseball/jj-hardy-step-by-step/&quot;&gt;takes a look at the similarities&lt;/a&gt; between Hardy's career path and the path of one of his top comparisons.

&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Down in the minors, we have stadium news in Appleton, where the Timber Rattlers are &lt;a href=&quot;http://rattler-radio.blogspot.com/2009/11/i-hope-this-was-worth-wait.html&quot;&gt;doing some renovations&lt;/a&gt; this offseason. They're moving the bullpens into the outfield to add some new seats (including an All-You-Can-Eat section), and adding a sand beach general admission area in right field.

&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;No transactions of note today, so I'll move straight into the other notes:

&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Zach Greinke recently won the AL Cy Young Award, surprising no one, with an incredible season. &lt;a href=&quot;http://danandsteve.com/2009/11/19/2009-zach-greinke-vs-2004-ben-sheets/&quot;&gt;Keep Turning up The Heat!&lt;/a&gt; compared Greinke's 2009 season to Ben Sheets' 2004 performance, and it's closer than you might think.

&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If you have hours to kill and would love to read Rollie Fingers talking about all things baseball (and his new book), then &lt;a href=&quot;http://thedugoutdoctors.com/2009/11/rollies-follies-an-interview-with-the-hall-of-fame-author/?utm_source=feedburner&amp;utm_medium=feed&amp;utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheDugoutDoctors+%28The+Dugout+Doctors%29&amp;utm_content=Google+Reader&quot;&gt;this Dugout Doctors interview&lt;/a&gt; was written with you in mind. 

&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Just a few weeks ago, I mentioned the debut of the Florida Winter Baseball League, and the possibility that it could be a game-changer for American players looking for the opportunity to sharpen their skills without leaving the US. As it turns out, the Caribbean leagues won't have much to worry about, as FWBL &lt;a href=&quot;http://rattler-radio.blogspot.com/2009/11/15-games.html&quot;&gt;has canceled the remainder of the season&lt;/a&gt; after just 15 games. So much for that idea. 

&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Maybe the new goal can be &quot;no games in November:&quot; Bud Selig is reportedly &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.usatoday.com/sports/baseball/2009-11-18-selig-playoff-schedule_N.htm&quot;&gt;looking into the possibility&lt;/a&gt; of eliminating some postseason off days to attempt to move things along a bit.

&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;On this day in 1976, the Brewers signed Sal Bando as a free agent. Bando spent the final five seasons of his career in Milwaukee, hitting .250/.335/.382. He would later return as GM and spend most of the 90's digging a hole the Brewers would need another decade to dig out of.

&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;No Brewer birthdays today, but happy birthday to &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/m/morgajo01.shtml?redir&quot;&gt;the other Joe Morgan&lt;/a&gt;, who played in 13 games for the 1959 Milwaukee Braves and turns 79.

&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Oh, and every high school newspaper reporter makes this mistake once, but apparently some don't learn from it: &lt;a href=&quot;http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/blog/big_league_stew/post/-Idiot-paper-notes-unusual-spelling-of-Phillies?urn=mlb,203523&quot;&gt;Calling a player an idiot&lt;/a&gt; in &quot;not for print&quot; notes in your story is never a good idea.

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      <author>Jesse</author>
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&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;The &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sbnation.com/mlb/teams/MIN&quot; class=&quot;sbn-auto-link&quot;&gt;Twins&lt;/a&gt; now have &lt;a href=&quot;http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=tIn6UNnQQrmryUesyK0wSwg&amp;output=html&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;approximately $62 million committed to eight players&lt;/a&gt; who are under contract for 2010, and with &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sbnation.com/mlb/players/837/J_J_Hardy&quot; class=&quot;sbn-auto-link&quot;&gt;J.J. Hardy&lt;/a&gt;'s estimated arbitration salary likely somewhere around $6 million &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.twinkietown.com/2009/9/24/1053637/minnesota-twins-2010-roster&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;Minnesota will have approximately $17 million&lt;/a&gt; to shell out to their arb-eligible players.&amp;nbsp; Even with a payroll which would open the year at over $80 million for the first time in frachise history the organization is still in a position to add some payroll.&amp;nbsp; How much?&amp;nbsp; Probably not too much.&amp;nbsp; But with third base, second base and two rotation spots up for grabs there's no doubt the front office will continue on their quest to improve the team.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Minnesota has picked up a bit of a stigma as an organization that likes to rely on bargain-bin veterans to flesh out their roster, and there hasn't been a shortage of that philosophy applied to the starting rotation over the last few years.&amp;nbsp; Do your ears still flush red when you think of &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sbnation.com/mlb/players/659/Ramon_Ortiz&quot; class=&quot;sbn-auto-link&quot;&gt;Ramon Ortiz&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sbnation.com/mlb/players/748/Sidney_Ponson&quot; class=&quot;sbn-auto-link&quot;&gt;Sidney Ponson&lt;/a&gt;?&amp;nbsp; Or maybe &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sbnation.com/mlb/players/759/Livan_Hernandez&quot; class=&quot;sbn-auto-link&quot;&gt;Livan Hernandez&lt;/a&gt; still has you a bit baffled?&amp;nbsp; Those moves, at the time, were railroaded for the quality of the player rather than the organization's decision to bring in veteran help, although there was also a strong belief that a rotation centered around &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sbnation.com/mlb/players/733/Johan_Santana&quot; class=&quot;sbn-auto-link&quot;&gt;Johan Santana&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sbnation.com/mlb/players/1197/Francisco_Liriano&quot; class=&quot;sbn-auto-link&quot;&gt;Francisco Liriano&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sbnation.com/mlb/players/742/Scott_Baker&quot; class=&quot;sbn-auto-link&quot;&gt;Scott Baker&lt;/a&gt; would be just fine.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The front office agreed with us last winter, and they stayed fully in-house when constructing their rotation.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Things can change a lot in the span of a year.&amp;nbsp; An area of strength going coming out of 2008 is a bit of a weakness, or at the very least not nearly as deep as we thought it would be, coming out of 2009.&amp;nbsp; For a team that will always look to get the most value for their dollar, if they do choose to supplement the rotation in the free agent market, their highest reward scenarios might center around these guys.&amp;nbsp; Read all about them after the break.&lt;/p&gt;


  
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&lt;td class=&quot;td-name td-first&quot;&gt;2009 -                    &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sbnation.com/mlb/players/71/Rich_Harden&quot;&gt;Rich Harden&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
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&lt;td&gt;122&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;td&gt;74&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;td&gt;64&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;td&gt;23&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;td&gt;67&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;td&gt;171&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;td&gt;4.09&lt;/td&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;26 starts in 2009 and 25 starts in 2008--not bad.&amp;nbsp; Then there were the 13 starts in '06 and '07 combined, with 19 starts made in '05.&amp;nbsp; In fact, in Harden's six-plus star-crossed seasons in the majors he has had exactly one full season:&amp;nbsp; 2004.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;A couple of back injuries, a strained left oblique and a rap sheet full of right-arm issues, Harden's inability to keep himself on the mound isn't exactly a secret.&amp;nbsp; Which is why he's even on this list.&amp;nbsp; Anyone who can strike out more than a man per inning while allowing less than a hit per inning, with that kind of fastball and that kind of stuff, is a guy who's makeup has &quot;Ace&quot; dripping out of every pore.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;This past season Harden missed 19 games in May and June due to issues with his back, before coming back and eventually being shut down at the end of September because of his pitching arm.&amp;nbsp; Again.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Obviously he's a risk, but that's why I wanted to talk about these guys.&amp;nbsp; The oblique strains don't bother me--it's the problems (plural) that Harden has had with his rotator cuff and his UCL.&amp;nbsp; His mechanics aren't exactly smooth and without constant training to strengthen and stabalize his cuff I'm worried he could have to resort to Tommy John surgery at any time.&amp;nbsp; But I'm not a doctor.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Harden is likely to garner a lot of guarded interest this off-season, and in spite of his injuries and high pitch count innings could still receive multi-year offers that would be worth double-digit millions easy.&amp;nbsp; Naturally I'm not opposed to the Twins chasing him and signing him to a deal as long as it's done right.&amp;nbsp; While the Twins may not be able to guarantee more money than most of the other clubs out there, offering him a low base with a number of achieveable incentives for games started and innings pitched could make a deal at least tempting.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;My offer:&lt;/b&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;i&gt;Two years with team option for year a third.&lt;/i&gt;&amp;nbsp; 2010:&amp;nbsp; $4 million base ($500K for 12, 17, 22, 27 and 32 starts; $500 K for 100, 125, 150, 175, 200 innings pitched; $9 million possible; $1 million buyout option if less than 100 innings pitched).&amp;nbsp; 2011:&amp;nbsp; $6 million base, same incentives.&amp;nbsp; 2012:&amp;nbsp; $10 million base, same incentives, $1 million buyout.&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;h2&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sbnation.com/mlb/players/1053/Ben_Sheets&quot;&gt;Ben Sheets&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/h2&gt;
&lt;h4 class=&quot;player-position&quot;&gt;#15      /               Pitcher /      &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sbnation.com/mlb/teams/MIL&quot;&gt;Milwaukee Brewers&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/h4&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;&lt;label&gt;Weight:&lt;/label&gt; 225&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;&lt;label&gt;Throws:&lt;/label&gt; R&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;label&gt;Born:&lt;/label&gt; Jul 18, 1978&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;Sheets didn't pitch at all in 2009, and at two years older than Harden would be 32 in 2010.&amp;nbsp; His rap sheet of injuries is even more varied than the Cubs ace, with long stretches of time missed for back injuries, finger injuries and, of course, right arm injuries.&amp;nbsp; This last time around he's had flexor tendon surgery and, if you listen to his agent, would be ready for spring training.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;He doesn't strike out quite as many guys as Harden but he still allows less than a hit per inning, has better control and is far more efficient with his pitches.&amp;nbsp; Prior to this last surgery anyway.&amp;nbsp; Like Harden his fastball is mid to upper-90's, and his breaking balls can break your knees.&amp;nbsp; Prior to this last surgery anyway.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Sheets made 31 starts and pitched 198 innings in 2008 before missing all of '09, but from '05 to '07 he wasn't pitching full years either.&amp;nbsp; From the ages of 23 to 25 though, which may be where some of these problems began for a guy who was at the time a younger pitcher, Sheets made 102 starts and threw more than 670 innings.&amp;nbsp; You could argue he was over-worked, although by the time a guy hits his mid-20's he should be able to handle a full load.&amp;nbsp; I tend to lean away from the over-worked arguement.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Where I see Harden landing with a more high-profile team who is willing to take a chance on him and spend a little more ching, Sheets is the option who already looks like he'll appeal to everybody.&amp;nbsp; Second-tier teams (like the Twins) who still have a little wiggle room might run straight for the former Brewer to avoid getting drawn into a process with Harden.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;My offer:&lt;/b&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;i&gt;One year with a team option for a second&lt;/i&gt;.&amp;nbsp; 2010:&amp;nbsp; $3 million base ($500 K for 11, 22 and 33 starts; $500 K for 100, 125, 150, 175 and 200 innings; $7 million possible).&amp;nbsp; 2011:&amp;nbsp; $5 million base, same incentives, $500K buyout.&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;h2&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sbnation.com/mlb/players/32/Erik_Bedard&quot;&gt;Erik Bedard&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/h2&gt;
&lt;h4 class=&quot;player-position&quot;&gt;#45      /               Pitcher /      &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sbnation.com/mlb/teams/SEA&quot;&gt;Seattle Mariners&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/h4&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;&lt;label&gt;Born:&lt;/label&gt; Mar 06, 1979&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;td class=&quot;td-name td-first&quot;&gt;2009 -                    &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sbnation.com/mlb/players/32/Erik_Bedard&quot;&gt;Erik Bedard&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;td&gt;5-3&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;td&gt;15&lt;/td&gt;
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&lt;td&gt;65&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;td&gt;29&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;td&gt;26&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;td&gt;8&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;td&gt;34&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;td&gt;90&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;td&gt;2.82&lt;/td&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;Bedard had arthroscopic surgery on his left shoulder back in August, repairing what had been a spot of general disrepair.  A torn labrum was the main issue, but the area apparently needed a good clearing.  Apparently he'll be ready for the beginning of the season, but it's the second time in as many years where he made just 15 starts.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;His stuff, just like the stuff of Harden and Sheets, qualifies him as an ace.  He can be a dominant strikeout pitcher at times, although a little streaky even when healthy and not as efficient with his pitches as Sheets.  What had been very low fly-ball numbers increased slightly in Seattle, but his plus fastball and plus breaking ball continued to be his best pitches and were seemingly unaffected.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The biggest issues with the former Mariner and Oriole enigma are his consistency and, just like the other two guys on this list, his inability to stay healthy for a whole season.  His control tends to stray at times as well.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;My offer:&lt;/b&gt; &lt;i&gt; Identical to Sheets' offer&lt;/i&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;h4&gt;Conclusions&lt;/h4&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Clearly there are more guys on the market than these three who could qualify as damaged goods.  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sbnation.com/mlb/players/4316/Mark_Prior&quot; class=&quot;sbn-auto-link&quot;&gt;Mark Prior&lt;/a&gt; is attempting a comeback, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sbnation.com/mlb/players/721/Bartolo_Colon&quot; class=&quot;sbn-auto-link&quot;&gt;Bartolo Colon&lt;/a&gt; is still floating (or sinking) around out there somewhere and even a guy like &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sbnation.com/mlb/players/1091/Noah_Lowry&quot; class=&quot;sbn-auto-link&quot;&gt;Noah Lowry&lt;/a&gt; has some appeal.  But these three guys are the creme of the crop, because they all have the ability to be that elusive Ace pitcher.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Is there a safer option between the three?  Which guy would you prefer, if any?&lt;/p&gt;
  


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      &lt;h5&gt;Rich Harden&lt;/h5&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;Top o' the mornin' to ya...&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;li&gt;Here's a &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.startribune.com/sports/twins/70116622.html?elr=KArksi8cyaiUqCP:iUiD3aPc:_Yyc:aULPQL7PQLanchO7DiUr&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;Q&amp;A with Joe Mauer&lt;/a&gt; over at the Strib online.&amp;nbsp; There are some good quotes, all about his game and his rewards and no contract talk, but if you've read the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sbnation.com/mlb/teams/MIN&quot; class=&quot;sbn-auto-link&quot;&gt;Twins&lt;/a&gt; coverage at the Star Tribune at all this week then you've probably already seen most of this.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;The&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&quot;http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/10357594&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;boys over at FOX Sports&lt;/a&gt; say that the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sbnation.com/mlb/teams/MIL&quot; class=&quot;sbn-auto-link&quot;&gt;Brewers&lt;/a&gt; only went with the Twins after the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sbnation.com/mlb/teams/PIT&quot; class=&quot;sbn-auto-link&quot;&gt;Pirates&lt;/a&gt; tried to pull in &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sbnation.com/mlb/players/837/J_J_Hardy&quot; class=&quot;sbn-auto-link&quot;&gt;J.J. Hardy&lt;/a&gt; with &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sbnation.com/mlb/players/366/Matt_Capps&quot; class=&quot;sbn-auto-link&quot;&gt;Matt Capps&lt;/a&gt; or &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sbnation.com/mlb/players/362/Ryan_Doumit&quot; class=&quot;sbn-auto-link&quot;&gt;Ryan Doumit&lt;/a&gt;.&amp;nbsp; Apparently Milwaukee was looking for either &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sbnation.com/mlb/players/396/Paul_Maholm&quot; class=&quot;sbn-auto-link&quot;&gt;Paul Maholm&lt;/a&gt; or Zack Duke.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.twinkietown.com/2009/11/13/1155868/new-uniforms-on-monday&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;This has already been talked about here&lt;/a&gt;, and there's been a lot of good discussion--the Twins will unveil new-look road uni's (along with &quot;subtle&quot; changes to the home threads) on Monday afternoon.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Be sure to check out &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.twinkietown.com/2009/11/14/1157248/on-roy-ramos-and-risk&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;Han Joelo's gem&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;After a week to get healthy the Vikings are back in action this afternoon.&amp;nbsp; It looks like Antoine Winfield will take another week, but hopefully the Lions won't give the Vikings too much trouble and they won't miss him for one more game.&amp;nbsp; Be sure to head over to &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.dailynorseman.com/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;Daily Norseman&lt;/a&gt; for all your Vikings needs.&lt;/li&gt;
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