Feb 16 4:38p by Jeff Gluck
We're getting bombarded with questions about what Dale Earnhardt Jr.'s practice wreck means for the Daytona 500 starting lineup. Here's what we know:
Where they'll start
– Dale Earnhardt Jr. is still technically the pole-sitter, but he will start at the rear of the field for both Thursday's Gatorade Duel and the Daytona 500. No matter how he finishes in the Duel, he'll have to drop to the back of the pack just prior to the start of the Daytona 500.
– Martin Truex Jr. will go to a backup car and will start his Gatorade Duel in the rear of the field. However, Truex won't start at the rear of the Daytona 500 field. The reason is, Truex isn't technically qualified for the Daytona 500 yet – only Earnhardt Jr. and Jeff Gordon are (as the pole and outside pole winners). So whatever spot Truex earns in the Gatorade Duel, he gets to keep.
– The same goes for Denny Hamlin, who had to change a transmission. He'll start at the rear of the field for his Gatorade Duel race, but can retain whatever position he gets as a result of that race.
Who starts the race?
– Since Earnhardt Jr. remains the "pole-sitter" in name only, the new starter of the race will either be Gordon the driver who wins a Gatorade Duel on Thursday. According to NASCAR, Earnhardt Jr. still has the right to choose whether he starts the race on the inside or outside.
-- Whatever line Earnhardt Jr. chooses, his line will move up once he drops to the rear of the field. So if Earnhardt Jr. chooses the outside, then Earnhardt Jr. could elect to start the race on the outside. If that happened, his Hendrick Motorsports teammate Gordon would start the race on the inside.
-- If Earnhardt Jr. picked the inside for some reason, that person would technically be the No. 3 qualifier for the race but advance to No. 1 when Earnhardt's line moved up. Gordon would stay on the outside pole in the No. 2 spot. Many of you have already noted the eerie possibility of the No. 3 qualifying car starting the Daytona 500 on the 10th anniversary weekend of Dale Earnhardt's death.
Notes on Earnhardt Jr.'s car
-- Earnhardt Jr. is on his third car of Speedweeks. Not only did he wreck his Daytona 500 pole car, but his Bud Shootout car was also wrecked. Since the Bud Shootout car was originally slated to be the Daytona 500 backup car, it was sent back to Charlotte to be repainted (it was previously a brand-new car). So as of now, Earnhardt Jr.'s Daytona 500 car is a former Jeff Gordon chassis that was used in the October Talladega race – Gordon finished eighth. If that car wrecks in the Gatorade Duel, then the Bud Shootout car should be back in Daytona in time for Friday's practice sessions.
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Dale Earnhardt Jr. Wreck: What It Means For Daytona 500 Lineup
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If Dale Jr. can’t improve his position in the Gatorade Duels, I see no point in putting the backup car at risk of getting in a crash or damaged.
Why would he bother?
by WhitePhoenix48 on Feb 16, 2011 4:53 PM EST reply actions
Why wouldn't he?
He’ll still have extras if he somehow wrecks again, and the race data he’ll get from the Duel with the new plate size will be invaluable.
Advance apologies if the contents of this sports-based post offended you. I'm just aiming to educate the masses. My law professor says they're asses.
Panthers '010: Save the Richardson family coffers! We'll take the winning if we stumble into it.
by MichaelProcton on Feb 16, 2011 5:48 PM EST up reply actions
Why do you people insist on saying that Jr WRECKED his car in the Shootout? He did not wreck. He WAS wrecked. Just wording, but it infuriates the he!! out of me.
by factfinder on Feb 16, 2011 5:04 PM EST reply actions
Ha…sorry. It doesn’t mean I was assigning blame. To me, saying “he wrecked” is the same thing as “he got in a wreck.”
by Jeff Gluck on Feb 16, 2011 5:17 PM EST up reply actions
He didn’t wreck himself today either.
by carol-88-fan on Feb 16, 2011 5:18 PM EST up reply actions
I am like you…..he didn’t wreck himself, he was WRECKED!!
by Bev Muskopf on Feb 17, 2011 10:13 AM EST up reply actions
If Jr wins the Duel does he still have to start at the rear of the field for the 500??? If so, why? Also, it would make no sense to even run the Duel.
by simmsouth88 on Feb 16, 2011 5:08 PM EST reply actions
Well, seeing at this point how he will not get any practice laps in the new car today since there’s no engine in it, the Duel race will have to be his practice.
by snichols59 on Feb 16, 2011 5:20 PM EST up reply actions
dont they have practices for the 500???? he could get time in that car then..
by simmsouth88 on Feb 16, 2011 5:24 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, still more practice time. But a lot of practice just went out the window, too.
by snichols59 on Feb 16, 2011 5:41 PM EST up reply actions
yeah… stinks.. oh well.. i am sure he will make the best of it
by simmsouth88 on Feb 16, 2011 6:00 PM EST up reply actions
and how is it the Hendrick doesnt have a motor for Jr’s back up car????
by simmsouth88 on Feb 16, 2011 5:25 PM EST up reply actions
Shootout car was the original backup car, but it was sent back to Charlotte for paint after wrecking last Saturday. This is actually the backup to the backup…
Shootout car could be back Friday if it came down to it.
by snichols59 on Feb 16, 2011 5:42 PM EST up reply actions
ok.. thanks
by simmsouth88 on Feb 16, 2011 6:01 PM EST up reply actions
The why is because it’s Nascar and stupidity rules. You are right, he shouldn’t run the Duel.The pole sitter gets penalized 3 times. First he loses his pole winning car and then he has to start in the back of both races.
by carol-88-fan on Feb 16, 2011 5:30 PM EST up reply actions
i mean i am sure they will have 500 practices right???
by simmsouth88 on Feb 16, 2011 5:40 PM EST up reply actions
If he didn't want to be penalized, he should have been more careful.
Advance apologies if the contents of this sports-based post offended you. I'm just aiming to educate the masses. My law professor says they're asses.
Panthers '010: Save the Richardson family coffers! We'll take the winning if we stumble into it.
by MichaelProcton on Feb 16, 2011 5:49 PM EST up reply actions
more careful??? just guessing you didnt see the video of the wreck
by simmsouth88 on Feb 16, 2011 6:02 PM EST up reply actions
See above.
http://www.sbnation.com/nascar/2011/2/16/1997722/dale-earnhardt-jr-crash-wreck-daytona-500-lineup-pole-2011#59337488
Advance apologies if the contents of this sports-based post offended you. I'm just aiming to educate the masses. My law professor says they're asses.
Panthers '010: Save the Richardson family coffers! We'll take the winning if we stumble into it.
by MichaelProcton on Feb 16, 2011 5:49 PM EST up reply actions
Your Law profeor say they are asses~~~I have learned to know an ass, you have to be an ass!
by Bev Muskopf on Feb 17, 2011 10:11 AM EST up reply actions
No matter where Jr finishes in the duels he has to go to the rear of the field because HE (and Jeff Gordon) already have their starting positions locked in from sunday’s qualifying. And they are to start the race in the same car they qualified in or go to the rear of the field. The others who wrecked do not yet have their starting positions.
by NASCAR mom on Feb 16, 2011 9:54 PM EST up reply actions
Regardless of his finishing spot in the Duels, he will still start at the back of the field.
by WhitePhoenix48 on Feb 16, 2011 5:15 PM EST reply actions
makes no sense.
by simmsouth88 on Feb 16, 2011 5:25 PM EST up reply actions
Except that it does.
The rule is that you may not switch cars between the time you establish your qualifying position and the race. He did. Therefore, he’s being penalized.
Advance apologies if the contents of this sports-based post offended you. I'm just aiming to educate the masses. My law professor says they're asses.
Panthers '010: Save the Richardson family coffers! We'll take the winning if we stumble into it.
by MichaelProcton on Feb 16, 2011 5:50 PM EST up reply actions
just because the rule book says what it says doesnt mean i have to make sense of it.. but thank you for your help
by simmsouth88 on Feb 16, 2011 6:03 PM EST up reply actions
I have no problem with A wrecked car having to start last in the Duels or even the 500 for that matter. But I think its very unfair to the 88 or whoever won the pole. If the 56 and 11 car can improve there spot then I think the 88 should be able to as well. Either let all the cars do it. Or make all the cars start tail end.
by Timsim38 on Feb 16, 2011 11:09 PM EST up reply actions
But the 56 (new car), 11 (new trans), 13 (new engine), and 48 (new car) don’t HAVE a position to improve yet, that’s the catch.
Only the 88 and 24 had/have a position determined for Sunday’s race.
Now, if anyone changes an engine after their position is determined in the Duels, then they too will move to the back.
Look at it this way… the 88 and 24 can finish their duels 10 laps down… would they lose their front row starting positions? No.
by snichols59 on Feb 17, 2011 12:08 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Changing Engines
Everyone is allowed to change their engine once after the Duels. I believe it has to be done before the first practice on Friday, but don’t hold me to that. If that engine is changed, they have to move to the back.
by Missa on Feb 17, 2011 8:27 AM EST up reply actions
To Me this is totally unfair
I totally believe that ANY DRIVER that changes an engine, or car, lie Truex should be pentalized the same as Jr.
I understnd their rule, but in my opinion, it is a stupid ruld.
by Bev Muskopf on Feb 17, 2011 10:19 AM EST reply actions
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