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Penn State Fans Rain Profanity, Beer On Protester With 'Honor The Abused Kids' Sign

Not surprisingly, the first Penn State game in Happy Valley after the Jerry Sandusky scandal forced the ouster of football coach Joe Paterno and president Graham Spanier brought a bit of protest to State College, Pennsylvania. But what some Penn State fans did to one man who had the audacity to hold a sign reminding them that today's game should be about honoring the children abused by Sandusky and abandoned by a system that only very slowly reacted to serious allegations about him is ultimately very troubling.

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Washington Times writer Nathan Fenno has that story, about a father named John Matko who drove three hours from Pittsburgh to hold up signs that quoted Albert Einstein's "The world is a dangerous place" remark and asked the community to "Honor the abused kids" by canceling the game and the rest of Penn State's season. For his trouble, Matko, who reportedly kept quiet as he was berated, was showered with expletives and a beer, called a "pussy," and rewarded with a solitary "I agree" over the course of an hour.

Understandably, Penn State fans around Beaver Stadium on Saturday are probably inclined to ignore a world beyond Penn State football, and may have been more football-focused on this Saturday than any other, given how painful this week has been. But Matko's apparent point — that fans shouldn't forget the crime, and the evil, that occurred, and that those who stood by and allowed it to occur should be punished for it — is one that it takes a lot of spite and ignorance to shun.

The most heart-breaking portion of the story is the last sentence:

"Not now, man," one student said, shaking his head. "This is about the football players."

The part of the Penn State fan base Matko encountered may have plenty of love for kids, but it would seem they just have to be Joe Paterno's, and good at football, and not the faceless youngsters whose lives were forever changed by horrific abuse in possibly the darkest chapter of the university's history. On Saturday, for those who angrily confronted Matko, it would seem that football comes first, and the rest can come after.

If there are lessons to be learned about the primacy of football from the Sandusky tragedy, they certainly haven't been learned by the whole of the Penn State fan base just yet.

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Shaking my head...

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by JoeCB1991 on Nov 12, 2011 7:15 PM EST reply actions  

Remind me why anyone would send their kid to this school now? Talk about a bubble these people live in. What a joke.

by jpmchugh77 on Nov 12, 2011 7:26 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

Calm Down Silly Fans

In a year when Mr. Sandusky enters the court system. Then everything will be settled the proper way.
As far as the University goes it has taken the proper steps for now based on the future trial pending to solve the rest of the sad crimes that have been presented.

As far as the football program goes. After the season the University can terminate all staff and start fresh completely.

A good start would be the hiring of Bill Cowher as head coach to run the football program to stability quickly.

by Dziedzic on Nov 12, 2011 7:29 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

It's always "after the season"

Waiting to effect change is what got Penn State into this mess in the first place. It shows they still care more about football than doing what’s right.

"If you can’t make a profit, you should sell your team." - Michael Jordan (Owner, Charlotte Bobcats)

by otis29 on Nov 13, 2011 8:33 AM EST up reply actions   2 recs

Penn State has the mentality of the Catholic Church system

the way they all seem to want to ignore the children and protect their own. They may as well change their mascot to an old guy grabbing a little boys butt. and their school creed to “Doing the legal minimum is morally ok.”

d-wade=d-ouche

by captainamerica* on Nov 12, 2011 7:56 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

For pete's sake...

There were 107,000 fans at that game. Both teams came out to midfield to pray before the game for the victims. Untold thousands of people wore blue to support victims of child abuse. Penn State student ambassadors greeted Nebraska fans and made sure of their safety. 10,000 people gathered at Old Main last night for a candlelight vigil for victims. Almost $300,000 has been raised in TWO DAYS for RAINN – a national network to help victims of abuse.

Report the story of the knuckleheads. Please. Please do. But put it in perspective. Tell the whole story. The whole fanbase will not be enlightened in one day, or one week, or in forever. You’ll always have those people if you’d like to condemn Penn State. Tell the WHOLE story. Not just the part that allows YOU to see the world with you as good and “them” as evil.

by Dr Screenpass on Nov 12, 2011 8:08 PM EST reply actions  

Except the fans shouldn’t be congratulated for doing any of that. It’s the LEAST they could. It’s expected.

by VorAbaddon on Nov 12, 2011 8:43 PM EST up reply actions   4 recs

And the fans of the program have about as much to do with the crimes as you do, but you’re so condescending in tone I’m sure you’re doing your part to help the victims as well.

by Kevin Powers on Nov 13, 2011 2:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Look, I've taken a lot of heat at Black Shoe Diaries this week.

Mostly for vilifying blind Paterno worship. But this story could’ve been titled “Asshole Provokes Emotionally Charged Crowd, Gets Treated Like Asshole.”

by Chris Grovich on Nov 12, 2011 9:28 PM EST via mobile reply actions   1 recs

The person holding that sign, had his life priorities right. It’s only “passive provocation” if the only thing in your brain is a sporting event. And if you hold a sporting event more important than a crime against a defenseless child. That was the mentality of the countries that participated in the Berlin Olympics (it was just a sporting event). As I wrote below, people that have this thinking (the show must go on) are the ones that are willing to look the other way, and obviously have different priorities in life. When you don’t do anything about wrongful acts, because they didn’t affect you or your family, is when you allow evil to rise. Ask anyone that has lived that situation.

The Hockey Dr.

by Outcast on Nov 13, 2011 3:02 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

The Berlin Olympics? Really?

/eyeroll

Yeah, what this conversation needed was someone fulfilling Godwin’s Law.

11 01 10
Veni Vidi Vixi

by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Nov 15, 2011 1:14 PM EST up reply actions  

We’ll have to agree to living in two mutually incomprehensible universes. I don’t understand this remark or the comparison.

Oregon loves you, Chip Kelly!

by gamedaytribe on Nov 14, 2011 8:01 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm positive that many good and caring people go to PSU

It’s too bad a few assholes make the news with stuff like this.

by thunderupokst on Nov 12, 2011 9:50 PM EST reply actions  

Judging from what happened , there are more than this few assholes (AD, President, JoePa, the people that were at the game). If they had any brains , they should have boycotted the game. They have the mentality that “the show must go on” . Well in this case you are talking about defenseless human beings, whose abuse was covered up for the sake of football. Einstein was right, history proved him right many times. Unfortunately sports is the opium of the masses. And this proves it.

The Hockey Dr.

by Outcast on Nov 13, 2011 2:19 PM EST up reply actions  

hopefully

that student never becomes a father

@andywittman

by andyprocombat on Nov 13, 2011 12:46 AM EST reply actions  

Even though the students that berated this person are a minute sample of PSU. Given the events that transpired, they mirror a large number of students, alumni, fans, board members, coaches, AD’s,and media people at “Happy Valley” . To them football is everything, nothing else matters. If PSU is going to do right for itself, their alumni, and their town (let alone the victims), they need to cancel the football program for this year, and clean house. Clean house from the top (board of trustees if necessary, president(they’ve done so), and football program. Put in place a policy of reporting to the AD or the President of the university, campus police and local and state authorities as it may be the case. Football should not superseed what is right, never again a PSU. No more delays , do what’s right NOW.

The Hockey Dr.

by Outcast on Nov 13, 2011 2:10 PM EST reply actions  

There are over 100 players on that football team...

and a good number of them are seniors. They never had anything to do with any of this and to cancel the rest of their season is pointless and ridiculous and penalizes them more than anything. Penn State just fired the face of their football program in the middle of the week. What exactly would canceling the season actually accomplish?

by FisheriesDawg on Nov 13, 2011 9:56 PM EST up reply actions  

Is football crack cocaine now?

Isn’t this furious demand for something, this vicariouis living through student athletes the root cause of the problem? That people treat Paterno as god, are unwilling to make decisions on their own or rock the boat, too scared of doing what’s right even in the face of the most unspeakable and saddest crime of all?

Perhaps taking away something from people who put that thing inappropriately above all else and foster a culture where everything else becomes less important, including ordinary human decency, not to mention the law, is something that would actually benefit these people?

Oregon loves you, Chip Kelly!

by gamedaytribe on Nov 14, 2011 1:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Wait...
Perhaps taking away something from people who put that thing inappropriately above all else and foster a culture where everything else becomes less important, including ordinary human decency, not to mention the law, is something that would actually benefit these people?

Are you talking about Penn State’s players?

by FisheriesDawg on Nov 14, 2011 2:35 PM EST up reply actions  

I will link to Charles Pierce’s article as he puts it far more eloquently than I can.

And first I’d like to ask every single one of the players and the coaches in the football program at Penn State, if not everybody in the athletic dept there — what did you know? Had you ever heard a rumor? Did you do all you could?

Oregon loves you, Chip Kelly!

by gamedaytribe on Nov 14, 2011 8:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Clearly you assume all of the players have some level of guilt...

which, if they truly do, then I can understand why you would want to cancel the season on them.

If they don’t, though, I’d like to hear what you think cancelling the season would accomplish and how that is a greater good than screwing those kids out of a football season that they’ll never get back. It certainly isn’t going to unrape any of those kids. They’re already getting put through a situation that I wouldn’t wish on any innocent person. I think there’s plenty of reason to think that the majority, if not all, of the players (who were hardly into elementary school when this stuff started and weren’t even in high school when the McQueary incident happened) likely didn’t know a thing about this.

This would be like asking the Catholic church to quit having Sunday Mass. Nothing good is going to come out of it, it just serves to satiate some sort of level of vengeance from people who have no personal attachment to the situation. Then, it punishes the millions of parishoners who had absolutely nothing to do with any of the evil that led to the scandal.

by FisheriesDawg on Nov 14, 2011 8:35 PM EST up reply actions  

I do not assume anything. That's merely one of the many points here.

But your wording alone captures some of the difference in the perspectives we have.

Kids lives get “screwed” by not playing 3 football games? Really? All the adults deprived of 3 hours of entertainment — the end of the world? This is punishment? You still reflect this same world view that footballl is everything, and depriving the students of a game is a heinous and tragic thing.

Tihs is the general culture of the community. Football is God. Football is king.

Are they kicked out of college? Is their education affected? Are their NFL careers ar risk? How do they even want to play for a program that engaged in protecting a person who committed these alleged acts?

Let’s say you take your kids to a neighbor’s house down the street because he has a swimming pool. And he lets all the nieghborhood kids play there. And you find out this guy’s brother who lived with him was molesting children right there in that house and he did nothing to stop it. Would you want your kids to keep going there because you didn’t want to deprive them of swimming pool play? Wouldn’t you yank their butts home and keep them there? Would you feel participating in any activity in that house, or would you want to wait at least until the whole mess got sorted out, and the house got sold to someone else?

It’s not the best analogy in the world.

But the culture of one’s life getting screwed because they can’t play in a football game is really alarming. No, there are many things that screw your life up. Getting raped at the age of ten is one of them. Missing a football game is not. They can play hero in so many different ways.

This is just my perspective. I know I am in a minority. You don’t have to agree with me. It’s just a data point that others have very different perspective on the importance of football relative to various other things. Just think about it differently as an exercise for a minute, if nothing else.

I’m saying this as a diehard college football fan, as my sig probably indicates. But if my college coach had done anything like this I’d be the first person calling for his head and boycotting games until all the guilty were out, and the thorough investigation completed.

I hope you understand.

Oregon loves you, Chip Kelly!

by gamedaytribe on Nov 15, 2011 12:05 AM EST up reply actions  

It is all in who you blame...

you’re trying to take the opinion that this is, at the very least, everyone affiliated with Penn State’s fault. My view is that it is ultimately Jerry Sandusky’s fault and secondarily anyone who actually knew what he did and covered it up. I still haven’t seen you give any reason to think that any players knew about this.

Kids lives get "screwed" by not playing 3 football games?

Absolutely. Certainly not as much as getting raped, but unless you can prove they’re culpable in the crime/coverup, yes, they’re already getting screwed even without their games being cancelled. Can you imagine being a player for Penn State and having to go through all of this garbage?

All the adults deprived of 3 hours of entertainment — the end of the world?

I’ve never once brought them up.

This is punishment?

Again, who are we talking about punishing? People who knew about this whole thing the same time you and I did.

You still reflect this same world view that footballl is everything, and depriving the students of a game is a heinous and tragic thing.

The latter, of course not. The former, while maybe not “heinous and tragic”, it certainly isn’t a good thing. These kids have devoted a good chunk of 4-5 years of their lives to play football at Penn State. To be so flippant about their commitment because you don’t think football is as important as they do is a little dismissive of them.

Let’s say you take your kids to a neighbor’s house down the street because he has a swimming pool. And he lets all the nieghborhood kids play there. And you find out this guy’s brother who lived with him was molesting children right there in that house and he did nothing to stop it. Would you want your kids to keep going there because you didn’t want to deprive them of swimming pool play? Wouldn’t you yank their butts home and keep them there? Would you feel participating in any activity in that house, or would you want to wait at least until the whole mess got sorted out, and the house got sold to someone else?

The brother is in jail, the neighbor has had his house repossessed, and the house is in the process of being sold to someone else. If I knew that and my kids really enjoyed swimming (perhaps it was the reason they were going to college for free), yeah, I’d let them go to the pool provided I felt that the risk was gone. Do you think there is a remote chance that any kids are going to get molested in the Penn State football facilities the rest of this season?

I’m saying this as a diehard college football fan, as my sig probably indicates. But if my college coach had done anything like this I’d be the first person calling for his head and boycotting games until all the guilty were out, and the thorough investigation completed.

How is that not what is going on at Penn State right now? They’re firing people left and right, very much to the detriment of a football team with a good chance of winning the Big Ten.

I hope you understand.

I understand why you’re mad at Sandusky/Paterno/McQueary/Spanier/etc. 99% of folks out there are. I just don’t understand the “salt the earth” philosophy when it comes to people who had nothing to do with this just because you’re mad at society. The “football is king” phenomenon certainly isn’t exclusive to Penn State, so I’m surprising you’re not just calling for the NCAA to cancel the entire D-1 football season at this point. It wouldn’t accomplish anything, but I’m guessing it would make you feel better about a situation in which you’re not even remotely involved.

by FisheriesDawg on Nov 15, 2011 9:09 AM EST up reply actions  

I’ve been incredibly heartbroken for the victims, angry about the crime & inaction, and embarrassed to be a part of Penn State as this has unfolded, and have been demanding change with Chris above and many others all week, the majority of which has either already happened or been set in motion.

I have to also admit to being embarrassed, although on a much, much smaller scale, to see a headline and post like this on SBN.

by Kevin Powers on Nov 13, 2011 2:31 PM EST reply actions  

Misleading headline is misleading. Trolling for clicks, are we?

You make it sound like he pissed people off with the “remember the children” sign. He was demanding the cancellation of the game and season. Was he blaming the players for something? Is there a reason they shouldn’t get to play? Did he expect 107,000 people to say, “oh, gee, you’re right” and turn around?

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Veni Vidi Vixi

by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Nov 14, 2011 11:28 AM EST reply actions  

So every body who has a different opinion shuts up?

Isn’t that exactly what led to this? Silence any dissenters, no room for anybody else who stands in the way of the great foobtall god? Wow. Just wow. Crack cocaine it is.

Oregon loves you, Chip Kelly!

by gamedaytribe on Nov 14, 2011 1:42 PM EST up reply actions  

You've already demonstrated a poor grasp of logic in your argument with FisheriesDawg above.

This dude stood outside the stadium to tell 107,000 people in Blue-Out shirts against child abuse that they were dishonoring the children by showing up. He got the reaction he wanted and earned. He was being a troll in real life just as you are being a troll here.

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Veni Vidi Vixi

by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Nov 15, 2011 1:09 PM EST up reply actions  

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