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by Spencer Hall • Nov 18, 2011 4:25 PM EST
The NCAA is looking into the Penn State/Jerry Sandusky case to see whether or not Penn State violated any of the NCAA's bylaws in the process of doing whatever it did or didn't do. The NCAA has the right to do this, it claims, largely based on the clauses discussing "institutional control" and "ethical behavior" in its lengthy charter. It turns out this is completely accurate when you read those clauses as they are written.
The problem is that writing. It's bad, deliberately vague writing, the kind contract lawyers only include when they want to make sure the boss end of the deal has godlike powers in an agreement between oversight and the oversought. Article 10.1 is the primary vague ball of God-dust in the letter Mark Emmert sent to the NCAA, and its ambiguity is referenced deliberately in the notice.
Indeed, NCAA Bylaw 10.1 identifies ten types of unethical conduct, but specifically makes clear that the list of 10 is not limited to those delineated.
Indeed! This agreement means member institutions like Penn State are subject to the scrutiny of the NCAA in this matter not only by those specific types of unethical behavior, but also by pretty much whatever else they want to sandwich in under the definition. (Throw in an "honest clause," and their claimstaking is close to boundless.)
So just as an exercise, let's assume this isn't a cynical flexing of bureaucratic muscle to soak up some pageviews and remind everyone that the NCAA, aside from pocketing huge sums from a tournament of unpaid basketball players, does something. (Amateur athletics spirit of competition standards level playing field blah blah blah and so forth.) We'll assume that for an instant, the NCAA legitimately wants to enforce its blathering charter.
Having absolutely no subpoena power, the NCAA will be able to compel no meaningful testimony from anyone. They will instead rely on court transcripts, the existing grand jury testimony, and whatever else they can get from the few people who will say anything to an investigator about this case. Then, having seen the data carefully arranged for them by hardworking people elsewhere, they will issue some kind of judgment regarding their extremely open-ended interpretation of whether any of this violated their deliberately nebulous bylaws.
In other words, the NCAA will come to the scene of this orphanage fire of a scandal three months late, drop some citations on the ground, and boldly announce to no one in particular that they have done something important.
Did you think the NCAA wouldn't take this opportunity to aggrandize its own weak claims at being anything but a for-profit corporation functioning under a tax-exempt non-profit organization? Then you learned nothing from the Penn State case in the first place, and assume organizations won't sacrifice anything for their own sake. In the NCAA's case, it's just sense and taste that are on the chopping block. That's not too bad considering what Penn State sacrificed in the name of their own horrendously defined interests.
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Yes to all of that.
Don't pay attention to anything I just wrote. It's total bullshit.
by Slum C on Nov 18, 2011 4:32 PM EST reply actions
Would is be fair to tOSU, Miami, SC
etc to crush their programs for the transgressions of past coaches that involved tattoos and fairly insignificant sums of money, but allow PSU to bring in a new coach with no sanctions and no penalty?
Yes, the crimes were not football related, but the cover-up involved a GA, the HC and the AD (read: “the program.”)
The bylaws and “scope” what LOIC means are sideshows to the fact that no program in the history of history has deserved the death penalty more than Penn State football.
Oh, come on. Don't leave your uncle T-bag hangin'.
by Troll2Troll on Nov 18, 2011 4:42 PM EST reply actions
Really.....
You don’t think Penn State football is going to suffer from the information that is going to come out of the Sandusky case? You don’t call in the Parks and Rec department to prosecute a murder.
by MOlson on Nov 18, 2011 4:49 PM EST up reply actions
There will be a short term effect
but it won’t last. People forget things at an incredible rate.
PSU shouldn’t be punished because Jerry Sandusky turned out to be a sick bastard. PSU should be punished because the football program conspired to cover-up a child rape. The football program (McQueary, Paterno, the AD) instigated or was complicit in the cover up. The program should pay, and no one but the NCAA can truly make them pay. The law can only punish individuals in this case.
Oh, come on. Don't leave your uncle T-bag hangin'.
by Troll2Troll on Nov 18, 2011 7:13 PM EST up reply actions
You don't think that Penn State is going to be punshied?
You don’t think there will be a lawsuit (or lawsuits) that will result in Penn State University writing out a huge settlement check (or checks)? The Athletic department is going to be burned to the ground. How is PSU going to recruit for the next 8-10 years? The program will be punished enough.
by MOlson on Nov 19, 2011 2:44 AM EST up reply actions
They'll be punished by civil lawsuits for sure...
But will it only be a monetary hit? The football program, assuming PSU fans don’t abandon it, and the NCAA doesn’t come down on it, will still be a moneymaker for the university. It’s not like they can sell the stadium to pay off these judgements. They need to generate income, or borrow from the taxpayer. Recruiting may not be terribly hurt if the BoT cleans house. What did coach Urban Meyer (hypothetically) have to do with that scandal? Nothing.
I’m not saying the football program will definitely come through intact, but it may. And, if what looks like happened turns out to be what really happened, this entire cover-up was about protecting the football program. Every victim after 2002 (and maybe 1998) was violated because the program was deemed more important.
That can’t be allowed. None of the conspirators at PSU should be able to tell themselves, “Well, we took a lot of heat, but it looks like football will come through this ok.”
by galactahack on Nov 19, 2011 11:33 AM EST up reply actions
I agree with you
I would be both shocked and offended if Penn State doesn’t face serious repercussions from the NCAA.
I’d also like it to serve as a wake up call to the NCAA, that docking scholarships because people slept on some couches is not what they should be doing. They need to be focused on the important stuff.
by starry on Nov 18, 2011 7:17 PM EST up reply actions
At this point, it's just about making it look like they care.
by Kasey Fairchild on Nov 18, 2011 5:24 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
They're embarassed
Too many people talking about how the NCAA penalty is worse for getting a free lunch than it is for concealing child rape. “We’ve gotta protect our phony-baloney jobs!”
by JTGoirish on Nov 18, 2011 9:24 PM EST reply actions
Respectfully Disagree...
It’s not hard to imagine the people at the NCAA were as shocked as the rest of us were by this.
It’s appropriate for them to be taking a back seat here. They don’t have to run in claiming jurisdiction, because this is primarily a criminal matter. But as the details become public, there’s nothing wrong with them investigating and handling the portion of this that relates to NCAA sports.
Their actions only seem inadequate if you’re depending on them to obtain justice for the victims. They’re not going to, because that’s not their job here. Their job is to protect their brand, and if that means disassociating from a school that seems to allow heinous crimes go unreported in their athletics program, so be it.
by galactahack on Nov 18, 2011 10:28 PM EST reply actions
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