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Oakland Raiders quarterback Jason Campbell broke his collarbone in last Sunday's game. On Monday, he was having surgery on said collarbone. During his recovery laying in bed on Tuesday, Campbell saw a rather peculiar and confusing press conference. He was watching the Carson Palmer Oakland Raiders introduction press conference. "On Sunday night I had some pain pills for my shoulder, so I was pretty much sleeping all night Sunday," Campbell told 95.7 FM The Game in Oakland. "And then Monday I had my surgery, so I was pretty much out of it then."
Campbell found out about the trade for Palmer while sitting in bed watching television with his fiancée. "It was kind of a moment of silence. My fiancée looked at me to see if I was gonna say something. There's different things that go through your mind but you don't want to fill your mind with those thoughts," Campbell told the radio station.
Campbell's career in the NFL has kind of just gone like that. He's been through coaching change after coaching change while he was the quarterback for the Washington Redskins. Campbell has played under at least five different offensive coordinators in his 7 year career, meaning he's never played in the same offense for more than two seasons. Even in his college years at Auburn, Campbell had four different offensive coordinators in each season he was a Tiger.
That's how the NFL works, though. Players sometimes find out about trades sitting at home.
For more on Jason Campbell in Oakland, head over to Silver and Black Pride.
The mysterious Oakland Raiders continue. At the beginning of this week, it looked like Kyle Boller would be starting for the Raiders against the Kansas City Chiefs this weekend after Jason Campbell went down with a broken collarbone last week.
Head coach Hue Jackson has been mum on the Raiders quarterback situation saying he knows who the quarterback will be but isn't saying yet.
For now, it looks like Palmer will be on the bench (at least to start the game) and Boller will get the nod.
Check out SB Nation's Silver and Black Pride to see what Raiders fans are saying about the mystery at quarterback.
The Oakland Raiders acquired Carson Palmer in a trade with the Cincinnati Bengals on Tuesday and shortly after that multiple media reports came out indicating that Palmer was likely to start on Sunday against the Kansas City Chiefs.
Raiders head coach Hue Jackson has been consistent in saying that a decision hasn't been made although it was widely believed that Palmer would likely start.
Apparently, it's now unlikely he starts against the Chiefs. ESPN's Adam Schefter cites two people familiar with the situation who believe Palmer is unlikely to start against the Chiefs.
Jackson said he will likely make a decision on Friday night, though that doesn't mean he'll announce that decision publicly. It could be that we don't know Oakland's starter until Sunday morning, a few hours before they host the Chiefs.
Perhaps that's part of Oakland's strategy
Stay tuned to SB Nation's Silver and Black Pride for the latest on Palmer's status for Sunday.
Now that we've had a day to digest the trade between the Bengals and Raiders for Carson Palmer, you have to wonder who will really benefit from it.
The Oakland Raiders have apparently made their decision on the question of who will be the starting quarterback this weekend and the answer is Carson Palmer. ESPN's Adam Schefter reported Wednesday morning that the Raiders are expected to start Palmer this weekend against the Kansas City Chiefs.
In Tuesday night's introductory press conference, head coach Hue Jackson wouldn't say who was starting for the Raiders in Week 7 but on Wednesday morning Raiders offensive coordinator Al Saunders strongly suggested that it would be Palmer.
ESPN's report confirms what we thought: Palmer is starting.
Saunders talked with 610 Sports in Kansas City on Wednesday morning and his words didn't bode well for Kyle Boller, the Raiders other option at quarterback.
"He walked out on the field yesterday and everybody kind of looked at everybody and said, 'You know what, this is a real quarterback.' That was the comment made by a couple of people as they just watched him throw. It just depends on how quickly he feels comfortable in what we're doing and that shouldn't take too long."
So it'll be Palmer on Sunday against the Chiefs just five days after the Raiders made the blockbuster trade to acquire him.
The Cincinnati Bengals on Tuesday did what they said they wouldn't do -- trade Carson Palmer. The QB was sent to the Oakland Raiders in exchange for a 2012 first round pick and a conditional first round pick in 2013.
I find it fascinating that the trade finally went down because hardly anyone thought the Bengals would actually trade Palmer. Team owner Mike Brown is known for holding his ground in situations like this and publicly indicated that he wouldn't let Palmer leave because he signed a contract and needs to stick to it.
Palmer says he understands Brown's stance -- to a point.
"I know it was a selfish decision, but I thought it could work for both and I guess they didn't think so until now," Palmer said. "The hardest thing was being a distraction after fighting that kind of stuff for eight years. I love those guys in that locker room and that made it extremely tough."
Remember, Palmer never publicly talked about this. There were reports quoting people close to Palmer, or people claiming Palmer said something, but nothing directly from Palmer, so this is really the first time we've heard his side of the story.
In the end, the trade benefits everyone. Palmer gets his fresh start, the Raiders get their quarterback and the Bengals get more than fair compensation for a player they weren't even using.
Raiders coach Hue Jackson officially introduced Carson Palmer to the media today, and he wasn't shy about setting the bar high, announcing the acquisition was "the greatest trade in football." Can Palmer live up to Jackson's praise, not to mention the Raiders' investment of two first-round picks? He admitted the expectations were heavy, calling it a "tremendous burden."
"I was telling someone just a little while ago that I went to bed at 10:30 a retired football player and got a text message at 4 a.m. and was told to get on a plane to Oakland," he added. "So, it's been a whirlwind, and I understand what's expected of me. I have played in this league for eight years, I know what it's about.
"I know what playing quarterback is about, and it's about winning. I want to come in and contribute and do whatever I can to help this team."
But exactly when Palmer will have a chance to help the team remains to be seen. In addition to learning the playbook and getting acquainted with his new teammates, he said he needs to work on his conditioning.
"It's going take some time," he said. "I think the only way you can get in football shape is by playing football.
"You can run wind sprints and lift weights and all those things but calling a play in the huddle when you're tired, after you just ran, you get the wind knocked out of you, getting up off the ground, ready to talk in the huddle, catching your breath, that's football shape, and they only way to do that is in practice and in games."
So is there any chance Palmer will start this Sunday? Jackson refused to say one way or the other. "You think I'm going to tell you that right now? You know me a little bit better than that," he said.
"OK, all you guys try, I'm not going to let that out of the bag just yet. But you've got to be ready for anything from me. I think you know that. We'll see as we continue to move through the week exactly where we are."
As a followup to Jackson's claim that this was the "greatest trade in football," he was asked what the second greatest trade was. His answer?
"I'll let you know when we make it."
For the full transcript of introductory Palmer's press conference, check out Tim Kawakami's blog at the Mercury News. To see what Raiders fans think about Palmer's acquisition, check out Silver and Black Pride.
The Cincinnati Bengals and Oakland Raiders completed a blockbuster trade that will send Carson Palmer to Oakland in exchange for a 2012 first round pick and a conditional pick in 2013 that could turn into another first rounder. It's a major trade that comes as a surprise to many because Bengals owner Mike Brown had given previous indications that they were unlikely to trade Palmer.
"Several factors made us believe that trading Carson to Oakland was the best move for the Bengals at this time," said Bengals president Mike Brown. "The principal development has been Andy Dalton, who has shown himself to be one of the best and most exciting young quarterbacks in the NFL. We have a good, young football team, and Andy can be the cornerstone of that team for a long time.
"We also find ourselves rather suddenly in position of being able to receive real value for Carson that can measurably improve our team - which is performing well and is showing real promise for this year and years to come. When this opportunity arose, we felt we could not let it pass, and needed to take a step forward with the football team if we could."
Brown was firm in his stance that they wouldn't trade Palmer but when you combine Andy Dalton playing well enough to lead the Bengals to a 4-2 record, and the Raiders offering up the compensation they did, the Bengals really had no choice but to do the deal.
Carson Palmer is officially a member of the Oakland Raiders today. Here is the photographic evidence.
Signing on the dotted line concludes a strange year for Carson Palmer and the Cincinnati Bengals. Threatening to retire rather than return to the Bengals, Palmer has been sitting out since the NFL went back to work after the lockout.
The Bengals appeared content to let Palmer go gracefully into the sunset rather than be pressured into a deal. Enter the Oakland Raiders.
Oakland jumped out to a 4-2 start to the season, beating the New York Jets and the Houston Texans with a capable game manager, Jason Campbell, under center. Campbell broke his collar bone against the Browns this week, and will miss the rest of the season. The thought of giving the San Diego Chargers a run for the AFC West title with Kyle Boller at the helm seemed more than a little far-fetched.
Oakland traded a first-round pick in the 2012 NFL Draft and a conditional second-round pick in the 2013 NFL Draft, that could turn into a first-round pick if the Raiders win a playoff game.
Carson Palmer was traded to the Raiders before Tuesday's trade deadline, emancipating him from an ugly situation with the Bengals, and bringing him to the craziest team of them all. It's perfect, really.
The details of the Carson Palmer trade that will send the quarterback to the Raiders from the Bengals are coming to light. The Raiders will surrender a 2012 first-round pick and a conditional pick in 2013, a second-round pick that would turn into a first-rounder if the Raiders win a playoff game.
ESPN's Chris Mortensen reported the conditions of the second pick via Twitter. Right now, the Raiders are 4-2 and in second place (behind San Diego) in the AFC West.
Instant Reactions: The Palmer trade has drawn excitement from Bengals fans and more mixed (and negative) emotions from Raider Nation.
Hm I wonder if these new details will make Raiders fan more or less enthused ...
Here's some more background on what led to the deal from Cincy Jungle:
Carson Palmer reportedly demanded a trade during the league's Conference Championship weekend with ESPN NFL Insider reporting at the time that Palmer was threatening to use the "retirement card." Palmer has said a single word about the demand, but the team took the demand serious enough to draft TCU quarterback Andy Dalton in the second round of the 2011 NFL draft. Throughout the entire process, Mike Brown has stood firm that he will not trade Palmer, standing behind his principles that players shouldn't demand their way out of a contract.
The Oakland Raiders have reportedly dealt away two draft picks to the Cincinnati Bengals for QB Carson Palmer and the deal could have significant repercussions both on the field and in the world of fantasy football. The Raiders look to be going all in for the 2011 season as they dealt away a 2012 first round pick and a 2013 second round pick that could become a first if the Raiders win a playoff game before then.
For fantasy football owners, the value of Carson Palmer to the Raiders likely depends on your thoughts on Palmer. Some have felt he has been nothing more than an average QB at best in recent seasons. Others see him as a guy who could benefit from returning to his relationship with Hue Jackson, who worked with Palmer's offenses in Cincinnati and USC.
No matter who the Raiders have at quarterback, this offense runs through Darren McFadden. However, if Palmer can bounce back from some recent season struggles, most of the skill position players could benefit. Jacoby Ford, Darrius Heyward-Bey and Denarius Moore could see some more passes their way. McFadden as well will continue to be a solid weapon in the pass game.
For the fantasy value of these players, it comes down to what Carson Palmer can bring to the table. It actually remains to be seen whether he is an upgrade over what Jason Campbell had done to date. It may take a couple weeks to figure out where exactly we stand in terms of fantasy football. I am slightly optimistic about the fantasy improvement, but cautious nonetheless.
The Bengals appear to be the overwhelming winner of Tuesday's Carson Palmer trade in the court of public opinion. The Raiders paid a high price to acquire quarterback Carson Palmer from the Bengals, giving up a 2012 first-round pick and a conditional pick in 2013 that could be a first rounder. That's a lot for any player, let alone a 31-year-old quarterback with a history of injuries.
But at our Raiders blog, Silver and Black Pride, writer Raymond St. Martin brings up one overlooked nugget that could forecast success for Palmer in Oakland. Raiders coach Hue Jackson has had success working with Palmer twice before.
4) Carson Palmer has been a very average quarterback for the past three seasons, but, had his two best seasons, 2005-06 while Hue Jackson was in Cincy as the receivers coach and apparently they worked together while Palmer was at USC. This bond could prove to be the foundation for Palmer to step back into the form that had him on the steps of greatness. It seems to be a theme with Hue that quarterbacks play well when he is on the roster.
If Jackson can resurrect Palmer's career, suddenly this trade doesn't look *quite* as lopsided.
The eagle has landed, or the former Bengal at least, in Oakland. Quarterback Carson Palmer arrived in the Bay Area on Tuesday for a physical with the Raiders. Once he clears the physical, the paperwork can be filed with the NFL and Palmer can officially be a Raider. Chris Mortensen of ESPN reported the news via Twitter:
Physicals are just one of the formalities involved with player acquisitions in the NFL. Potential draft picks are thoroughly evaluated, as are possible free agent additions and trade targets. Palmer has been demanding a trade for some time, and has reportedly continued with a conditioning program appropriate for an NFL quarterback.
Last month it was reported on NBC Sports Talk that Palmer was working out with former NFL quarterback Ken O’Brien.
The next question to be answered is when the Raiders will start Palmer. They have a home game with the Chiefs on Sunday prior to a week 8 bye.
For Cincinnati Bengals fans, the only thing more exciting than the team's surprising 4-2 start is just how great the future looks from here. The Carson Palmer trade was greeted with overwhelming excitment from fans in Cincinnati, a deal that netted the up-and-coming Bengals another first-round pick in the 2012 NFL Draft and second-round pick that could turn into a first-round pick in the 2013 NFL Draft. Josh Kirkendall, managing editor of SB Nation's Bengals site Cincy Jungle, called the Palmer trade "pure gold."
Originally Mike Brown's refusal to trade Quarterback Carson Palmer based on his principles that players can't demand their way out of Cincinnati, was honorable because few owners in professional sports truly stand up to players today. At the same time it was baffling. Not only would the team improve their personnel with draft picks that could result with an additional starter or two, it constantly left a cloud for a potential quarterback controversy if Palmer were ever to relent and return to the team.
Months later, the trade to Oakland, acquiring a first round pick for the 2012 NFL Draft and a second round pick in 2013 that could be upgraded to a first based on certain conditions, can only be viewed as genius. Additionally the move firmly tells quarterback Andy Dalton that they're completely behind him now.
Trading Palmer was a necessity. What they received from Oakland is pure gold; something that could be viewed impressively around the NFL.
The Oakland Raiders have acquired Carson Palmer in a trade with the Cincinnati Bengals and the price is steep -- a first round pick in 2012 and a conditional pick in 2013 that could turn into another first rounder. The reaction in Cincinnati is overwhelmingly positive with some Bengals fans calling owner Mike Brown a genius.
The reaction in Oakland is a little different. Most fans at SB Nation's Silver and Black Pride seem to be saying this is not a good move for Oakland.
Here's a sampling of the comments from those who disagree with the move:
Palmer for a 1st round pick? That would be a HUGE mistake. He's not that good people...look at the last season he played, he was barely mediocre.
Carson Palmer is washed up and not worth a 2nd round pick let alone a first....Not to mention he comes with a huge price tag...what a foolish and desperate move Hue.
This guy isn't the Richard Seymour of QBs. He's got very little left to offer and to waste more than a 2nd round pick is disgusting. Look at this last season in Cincy...he wasn't even average. I'd rather keep the picks and roll with Boller...easy decision.
The 2012 first rounder and a conditional first round pick in 2013. Horrible. If we were a Super Bowl contender, then maybe you go for it. Instead we are abandoning the thing that has led to our resurgence in the first place- the draft. Kyle Boller sucks, but I'd rather ride out the rest of the season with Kyle Boller than trade away TWO first round draft picks for a QB who is about to turn 32. Facepalm.
There goes next years draft and 2013 is already being ttaken away. I hate this move severe overreaction to Campbell going down.. NOW WE HAVE TO MAKE THE PLAYOFFS or this is stupid. Campbell is done with the raiders now. HATE THIS move.
And a few that like the move....
WE ARE GETTING A FRANCHISE QB!!! FINALLY!!! I SEE SUPER BOWL IN OUR NEAR FUTURE FELLAS!!! REJOICE!!
The change of envrironment will be good for him. He had Ocho and TO to deal with and reportedly wasnt happy in Cincy. I think he'll be happy in Silver and Black where there are no divas.
Hue is a gambler. I'll ride with whatever he chooses. Bet the house!!!!!!
Mike Brown...a genius? Cincinnati Bengals fans haven't said that about their owner in quite some time but after the Bengals NFL trade deadline deal with the Oakland Raiders that's what some are saying. Brown and the Bengals traded Palmer to the Raiders for a 2012 first round pick and a conditional pick in 2013 that could turn into another first rounder.
In the last few months, it was believed that the best the Bengals could do on a trade for Palmer was a second round pick, or maybe one first round pick. But possibly two first round picks? That's almost unbelievable.
Here's a sampling of the reactions from commenters over at SB Nation's Cincy Jungle:
I'm so happy
Mike Brown you are a genius!!!
im starting to like the new Mike Brown big time trade way to make them overpay !!!!
I think I'm gonna give in...and purchase some game tickets and a new jersey! This is music to my ears, what a steal! I never thought they would get a 1st and conditional 1st round pick! Who dey!
You never hear a Bengals fan say this..."Good Job MIKEY"....Nailed it with this trade,,a smart business man preys on desperation.....Great Job
Check out the rest of a very, very happy Bengals Nation over at Cincy Jungle.
The Cincinnati Bengals have completed a trade with the Oakland Raiders that sends Carson Palmer to Oakland for a 2012 first round pick and a conditional first round pick in 2013, according to ESPN. The conditional pick is dependent on playing time and other incentives.
The Raiders are in need of a quarterback after Jason Campbell went down with a broken collarbone but it appears Palmer would step in and become their new starting quarterback, regardless of Campbell's health. Giving up what could be two first round picks clearly indicates they're committed to him in the long run.
The Raiders now don't have their first, second, third, fourth or seventh round picks in the 2012 NFL draft.
Raiders coach Hue Jackson worked in Cincinnati for several years and it's believed his relationship with Bengals owner Mike Brown helped get this deal done. Jackson was an assistant coach in Cincinnati from 2004-06 when Palmer was there.
The Raiders now have a new quarterback and Cincinnati gets the over-the-top compensation they were looking for in a Palmer trade.
Both FOX Sports and ESPN are reporting that the Cincinnati Bengals and Oakland Raiders are nearing a deal that would send Carson Palmer to Oakland. Per the reports, the trade is expected to be done before the NFL trade deadline at 4:00 p.m. (ET) on Tuesday.
There are a couple of components to this deal. First, the Raiders are giving up their 2012 first round pick, which would mean they don't have first, second, third, fourth or seventh round picks in next April's draft. Second, the Raiders are also giving up a 2013 conditional draft pick that could turn into another first round pick depending on playing time and incentives.
So it's possible that, when it's all said and done, the Raiders give up two first round picks for Palmer. That's almost unbelievable considering we thought the going rate for Palmer would be around a second round pick.
The two sides are getting close to finalizing the deal and it's expected to be done before the deadline Tuesday afternoon.
The NFL trade deadline rarely has blockbuster deals done at the last minute but the 2011 NFL trade deadline appears to be different. Jay Glazer of FOX Sports reports that the Cincinnati Bengals and Oakland Raiders are close to a deal that would send Carson Palmer to the Raiders for a 2012 first round pick.
This would be stunning for a number of reasons. First, after Palmer told the Bengals earlier this summer that he would retire if he weren't traded, the Bengals held firm in their stance that they wouldn't trade him. Second, the Raiders would be trading away a 2012 first round pick meaning they wouldn't have picks in the first, second, third or fourth rounds of the 2012 draft. Third, is Palmer really worth a first round pick? The scuttlebutt going around the league had him pegged as worth a second round pick, at best.
The Raiders are in need of a quarterback after Jason Campbell was lost indefinitely due to a broken collarbone. Adding Palmer would likely keep the Raiders as legitimate contenders in the AFC West.
The Oakland Raiders notched a victory in Week 6 but they really didn't win anything once news came down that Jason Campbell had suffered a broken collarbone, which could end his 2011 NFL season. The Raiders, 4-2, are still in the thick of the hunt in the AFC West so there's some early speculation that they could be targeting a quarterback before Tuesday's NFL trade deadline.
That quarterback, according to Yahoo! Sports, is the Cincinnati Bengals' Carson Palmer. We all know his story by now: he told the Bengals he would retire if he weren't traded and through six weeks of the season he hasn't shown up at the Bengals facilities.
For their part, the Bengals say they're not trading Palmer and many believe that owner Mike Brown will stick to that regardless of the offer for him.
The Raiders have Kyle Boller and Terrelle Pryor on the roster so if they're serious about competing in the AFC West, they need to strongly consider finding a quarterback. Unfortunately for them, it sounds unlikely that their overtures to Palmer will result in a trade.
Check out SB Nation's Silver and Black Pride to see what quarterbacks the Raiders could be considering.
The Cincinnati Bengals haven't changed their tune -- at least publicly -- when it comes to QB Carson Palmer, who has said he'll retire if he's not traded by the Bengals. The Bengals stance has been that they won't trade him.
So this quote from Bengals owner Mike Brown this week shouldn't come as much of a surprise:
"He has retired. I wish him well. If he is going to walk away from his commitment, we're not going to reward it."
That's what the Bengals have been saying all along.
What will be interesting is when some team undoubtedly contacts (or has already contacted) the Bengals offering up draft picks for him. They're willing to play hardball but it'd be tough to turn down, say, a second round pick for Palmer.
For now, though, the Bengals aren't budging. Check out Cincy Jungle to see if they ever will.
Bengals wide receiver Chad Ochocinco thinks that his quarterback, Carson Palmer, has played his last game for Cincinnati. Palmer recently sold his house in Cincinnati, and has threatened to retire if he isn't traded. And Ochocinco thinks he's dead serious.
"I know him really well. He will sit out, he will retire," Ochocinco said from the Atlanta Motor Speedway, where he rode in a car with Sprint Cup driver Jeff Burton. Ochocinco added that Palmer is "frustrated" and wants a "fresh start."
Bengals owner Mike Brown repeatedly has said this offseason that he won't trade Palmer.
Ochocinco repeated these sentiments in another recent interview, saying that "When he says he's going to do something, he's going to do it.)
"As far as Carson, it looks like he’s serious," Houshmandzadeh said. "A lot of things have happened that I’m sure that nobody knows about but Carson and the team where he feels like it’s not the best place for him to play anymore."
It remains to be seen whether the Bengals will eventually give up and trade Palmer before the season starts, or risk losing him to retirement. Palmer once said he had $80 million and therefore did not have to stick around in an unhappy situation just to make money. If it looks likely that the Bengals won't be able to call Palmer's bluff, we'll see if they're willing and able to pull off a trade.
Another week, another person has an opinion on whether the Cincinnati Bengals will trade QB Carson Palmer. As you know by now, Palmer has said he would rather retire than play for the Bengals again. The Bengals aren't convinced Palmer will retire but former Bengals WR and current NFL analyst Cris Collinsworth believes Bengals owner Mike Brown will eventually trade Palmer.
"Mike's a businessman, and I think Mike Brown is probably the guy that is holding up the idea that Carson Palmer is going to be traded -- A) he doesn't like somebody to dictate terms to him in the way that Carson has done it," Collinsworth said on Rich Eisen's podcast.
But, Collinsworth says, he thinks the Bengals will eventually give in and deal Palmer if the price is right.
"But now with the drafting of a quarterback, I think that Mike will get what he can for Carson Palmer, and I do think there's going to be some interest."
So the question then is whether the Bengals will keep Palmer on the team in 2011. I can envision a scenario where they don't commit to trading him until 2012 and attempt to force his hand in 2011 and get him on the field.
Check out Cincy Jungle to see what Bengals fans are saying about Collinsworth's latest comments.
Cincinnati Bengals DT Tank Johnson reiterated what teammate RB Cedric Benson said a few weeks ago: If QB Carson Palmer doesn't want to be in Cincinnati, then send him on his way. Palmer of course has threatened to retire if the Bengals don't trade him and all signs point to the Bengals staying true to their word and allowing him to retire without trading him.
Benson said a few weeks ago that it may not be healthy for Palmer to come back since he clearly doesn't want to be in Cincinnati. Johnson told Sirius XM NFL Radio that, if Palmer doesn't want to come back, he shouldn't.
"In terms of what (Benson) said about Carson, I mean, he's absolutely right. There's no way that you can bring that kind of energy into the locker room. I mean, if a guy doesn't want to be there, let him go."
I think they make a good point. Ideally though, as team owner Mike Brown pointed out last week, Palmer would be around to groom QB Andy Dalton, who the Bengals selected in the second round of the 2011 NFL draft.
As for whether Palmer would really retire if he's not traded, Johnson says he thinks he's serious.
"I don't think Carson's a guy who likes to come out in the media and put himself kind of on the stage if he's not serious," Johnson said. "I've known Carson all the way since we played in the Pac-10 together" -- Palmer at USC, Johnson at Washington -- "and I haven't known him to be much of a jokester, so I'm thinking he's pretty serious."
With the NFL lockout potentially compromising part of the season, Palmer should have plenty of time to make his decision.
Check out the latest podcast at SB Nation's Cincy Jungle where there's plenty of Carson Palmer talk.
As a sign that Bengals QB Carson Palmer is serious about getting out of town, he has found a buyer for his $2.1 million home. Palmer has asked the Bengals to trade or release him and, if that doesn't happen, he will retire.
If Palmer's current contract stays intact, he'll be able to afford several $2.1 million houses. Joe Reedy of the Cincinnati Enquirer notes Palmer's contract has four years remaining for a total of $53 million. Palmer also reportedly once said he has $80 million in the bank and didn't necessarily need to play in the NFL for the money.
The Bengals could make him prove that though remains to be seen how Cincy truly feels about this once push comes to shove. Publicly they're indicating he will retire so it'll be interesting if that's the approach they take when the league year starts and trade offers come in.
There's being stubborn about something like this and then there's not trading Palmer and potentially hurting the team by not acquiring a draft pick for him. The latest poll at Cincy Jungle says 71 percent of Bengals fans would trade Palmer for a second round pick.
Check out Cincy Jungle for more on the Palmer situation.
Cincinnati Bengals RB Cedric Benson had some interesting words on QB Carson Palmer while talking on Sirius NFL Radio this week. As everyone knows by now, Palmer wants out of Cincinnati and has threatened to retire if that doesn't happen.
"I love Carson Palmer to death. He's supported me and taught me a lot but I think when a guy expresses himself as strongly as he has it's almost not healthy for the team to bring him back. He's already expressed his disgust. To bring him back would only be detrimental to the team and to him. This guy wants to be free and to soar somewhere else. Don't lock a man down whom you know won't be happy if he stays."
Benson suggests that, if Palmer isn't happy, he may not put in the extra time in the film room in order to prepare for the season. After all that's been said from both sides, I agree with Benson's take. Palmer doesn't want to be in Cincinnati and if there's one player you need to be 100 percent on board, it's the quarterback.
If the Bengals are interested in getting any sort of compensation for Palmer, they would be wise to send him on his way.
Check out Cincy Jungle to see what Bengals fans are saying about the possibility of Palmer leaving.
Carson Palmer's story with the Cincinnati Bengals continues without a real resolution in sight. The Bengals QB wants to be released or traded before the 2011 season and, if that doesn't happen, he's prepared to retire. We're not quite sure what the Bengals think about that but they did select a quarterback in the 2011 NFL draft in QB Andy Dalton.
Dalton may not be ready to play right away, especially with the lockout, so Palmer returning, even for one year, would be beneficial to Cincy. And if Palmer did change his mind and decide to return, he would remain the starting quarterback, head coach Marvin Lewis told Bengals season ticket holders in a conference call on Wednesday. Lewis said Palmer would be the starter and Dalton would be groomed to become the quarterback of the future.
In the conference call, Lewis said of Palmer: "Carson feels like his time here is over. He feels like the best thing is to retire and spend time with family."
So the question now is whether Palmer will actually return. Plenty of smart folks around the NFL have said he's serious when he says he'll retire if he's not out of Cincinnati.
SB Nation's Cincy Jungle apparently believes Palmer won't return as they're already doing the research on other quarterback options for the Bengals.
We've been talking about QB Carson Palmer's status with the Cincinnati Bengals. The last we heard from Palmer, he would retire from football if he's not traded by the Bengals. A lot of people around the league think he'll stick to that and, so far, the Bengals haven't said they'll look into trading him.
But if they do, there will be a number of teams in line to get him, including the Miami Dolphins. Armando Salguero of the Miami Herald reported last month that the Dolphins were interested in Palmer. This week he reports that, with Miami failing to secure a quarterback through the draft, Palmer is at the top of their wish list.
If the Bengals put Palmer on the market, I report to you the Dolphins will be in line to get him. But even if that happens, other teams might also be in line, including Seattle and Arizona.
I continue to think Seattle makes the most sense for Palmer. With the Pete Carroll connection, and Palmer's reported desire to play on the west coast, this makes the most sense.
That said, don't discount Miami. Like Seattle, they have the talent to make a playoff run should they get the right quarterback in place. They already spent two second round picks on WR Brandon Marshall and, ideally, they have a top-flight quarterback to get him the ball. With the possibility of RB Ronnie Brown and RB Ricky Williams leaving, the need for a starting quarterback has risen.
Check out The Phinsider to see what Dolphins fans think of the possibility.
When you talk about QB Carson Palmer and trade rumors, you have to qualify it by saying no one knows what the Cincinnati Bengals will do. Palmer claims he's retiring if he's not traded but, you know what, some smart people around the league think the Bengals could conceivably just not trade him and let him retire.
Crazy, right? But it's possible.
So the latest Carson Palmer trade rumor makes quite a bit of sense, if you ask me -- the Seattle Seahawks. Coached by Pete Carroll, Palmer's former college coach, the Seahawks are without a quarterback right now. Well, they have one -- QB Charlie Whitehurst, who hasn't done much to impress. QB Matt Hasselbeck didn't sign a contract extension before the lockout so his future is uncertain and there are some people that think he's done in Seattle.
Doesn't Palmer is Seattle just make a lot of sense? It would then open the doors for Hasselbeck to hit the free agent market and look at a place like Arizona, where he would be in higher demand.
It probably won't happen because, frankly, no one can guess what the Bengals will do next. But a scenario that ends with Palmer in Seattle and Hasselbeck on the open market seems to make a lot of sense.
Check out Cincy Jungle to see what Bengals fans are saying about the Palmer trade rumors.
The Cincinnati Bengals are one of the most interesting teams in the 2011 NFL draft because of the QB Carson Palmer question. As everyone knows by now, Palmer says he wants to be traded or he'll retire from the NFL. That sounds a little crazy but nearly everyone seems to believe him.
SB Nation's Cincy Jungle sees the writing on the wall and wonders why Brown can't see the same.
The rest of the world - those of us who are paying attention to the Carson Palmer trade demands at least - is able to read the writing that's been on the wall for a long time: Carson Palmer is going to retire before he puts on a Bengal uniform again. Marvin Lewis is moving on, Palmer's house is on the market, all the talking heads all say he's serious, and Chloe the psychic and that octopus that predicted the World Cup have both agreed that Palmer has made up his mind.
The Bengals are notoriously stubborn with things like this so they very well may test Palmer. Unfortunately, the losers in a scenario like that would likely be the Bengals. Either Palmer holds true to his threat and doesn't play leaving Cincinnati with very few quarterback options, or the Bengals have an unhappy quarterback under center.
The 2011 NFL draft should tell us a lot about how the Bengals really feel but I have a feeling Brown isn't kidding around.
For more the Carson Palmer situation, check out Cincy Jungle.
Carson Palmer is dead-set on never playing for the Cincinnati Bengals as he continues to maintain he’d rather retire than put on a Bengals’ uniform again. Palmer originally demanded a trade out of Cincinnati near the end of January, but has been quiet since. On Tuesday, however, reports surfaced indicating Palmer was serious about his threats to retire as the quarterback remained defiant.
According to a friend of Palmer’s, the Bengals’ quarterback has $80 million in the bank and is determined to get out of Cincinnati one way or another. Palmer reportedly said he’ll never set foot in Paul Brown Stadium again, as well.
According to Tuesday’s report, Palmer said “I have $80 million in the bank. I don’t have to play football for money. I’ll play it for the love of the game but that would have to be elsewhere. I’m prepared to live my life.”
His reported quote about never stepping foot in the Bengals’ stadium seems to gel with his threat of retirement as playing a road game in Cincinnati would violate his pact. On a serious note, a split would be best for both parties at this point. Palmer doesn’t want to be in Cincinnati and the Bengals could use a clean-break from the quarterback, perhaps taking advantage of a chance to start anew.
With the NFL in the midst of an intense labor dispute, and the lockout deadline looming, it’s unlikely Palmer is traded anytime soon. As long as a new collective bargaining agreement isn’t in place, Palmer is stuck with the Bengals, for better or for worse. It’s a dispute that could drag on, especially if the Bengals are unable to find a suitable partner or package that fits their eye, perhaps leading to a messy situation by the time games actually do get started.
Following the 2010 season, a report came out that Cincinnati Bengals QB Carson Palmer would retire if the team didn't trade him. Shortly after that Bengals ownership said they wouldn't be giving into Palmer's threat and he would not be traded.
We're not sure if anything has changed but Geoff Hobson of the Bengals official site writes that it's "believed" the Bengals are taking his threat "quite seriously".
It's believed the Bengals are taking
Carson Palmer's threat to be traded or retire quite seriously and that they are kicking the tires on all kinds of options. They want Palmer to return and believe he is their best chance to win, but everyone is also expecting them to take a close look at the top quarterbacks at the combine.
The question is does taking the threat "quite seriously" mean they would trade him, or simply allow him to retire. Nobody, including Bengals' Andrew Whitworth, knows how it will end up.
"I think they're taking him seriously," he said. "He's not the kind of guy who's going to come out and voice something like that without thinking it through. You don't know the answers, but I don't think anybody thinks Carson Palmer is an irrational guy. You have to take a guy like that seriously. I don't know how it will play out."
To follow along with this story, check out SB Nation's Cincy Jungle.
Carson met with Bengals owner Mike Brown recently. They both expressed profound disappointment in how the team fared last season, and in how it has generally performed during Carson’s tenure with the team. Because of the lack of success that Carson and the Bengals have experienced together, Carson strongly feels that a separation between him and the Bengals would be in the best interest of both parties.
Carson could not respect the Brown family any more than he does or be more appreciative of what the Browns have done for him and his wife Shaelyn and his family.
Palmer has been Cincy’s quarterback since 2004, with various stretches missed due to injuries throughout that span. During his time the Bengals made the playoffs twice, which is two more times than they did from 1991 to 2003. Palmer’s agent was thus in the rare position of having to undersell the relative success Palmer and the team have had together.
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A report came out over the weekend from ESPN's Chris Mortensen that Cincinnati Bengals QB Carson Palmer recently requested a trade from the team and could threaten retirement if it doesn't happen.
As it turns out, Palmer may have to look at retirement.
Bengals owner Mike Brown confirmed on Monday Palmer requested a trade last week but said the Bengals denied the request and they will not be trading him.
While he's still a viable option at quarterback, Palmer is due $11.5 million in 2011 and 2012, $13 million in 2013 and $14 million in 2014. Looking at Palmer's stats over the last few years, who would trade for that contract unless there was a lot of restructuring done? He has to know he's more valuable to the Bengals than any other team.
It's unclear what Palmer's next move would be. Word was leaked to Mortensen that Palmer could threaten retirement if he isn't traded but it's unknown if that's true or simply a threat.
Palmer has been with the Bengals since they made him the top overall pick in the 2003 draft. He was a Pro Bowler in 2005 and 2006.
Check out Cincy Jungle for more on the Carson Palmer trade rumors.
Still think Carson Palmer's a viable NFL quarterback? Your team might be trading for him before long.
ESPN's Chris Mortensen breaks the news that Palmer wants out of Cincinnati, whether by trade or by retirement.
Filed to ESPN: Carson Palmer will demand a trade from Bengals; willing to play retirement card, if necessary.
Mortensen and Adam Schefter also ran down the likely landing spots for Palmer, should he be traded, and came up with the Seahawks, where Palmer would be reunited with his college coach, Pete Carroll; the 49ers, who have been looking for a franchise quarterback for years; and the Cardinals, whose coach, Ken Whisenhunt, is familiar with Palmer from his time coaching in the AFC North.
Palmer was adequate this year, throwing for nearly 4,000 yards and 26 touchdowns, but he never threw for more than 300 yards in a win and had 20 interceptions. No small portion of Palmer's statistical exploits came with deficits and during garbage time.
This is where the retirement threat comes in: if the Bengals can't find a trading partner, Palmer could choose to retire and leave Cincy in the lurch.
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