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The San Diego Chargers dropped a 24-17 defeat to the Oakland Raiders Thursday evening and Philip Rivers had another "conflicted" performance. On the one hand, Rivers is creating fantasy value as he posts some solid counting stats. On the other hand, when it comes to leading his team to real world victories, he continues to struggle through his worst season as a starting QB.
Thursday evening, Rivers threw for 274 yards, two touchdowns and one interception, and lost one fumble. For fantasy purposes, that equates out to approximately 15 fantasy points in a basic four-point per TD league. That is not a fantastic performance, but depending on the rest of your team, it is not exactly awful.
That might best describe his evening against the Oakland Raiders. Rivers completed only 49% of his passes as he was roughed up all night long. The Raiders pass rush brought the heat on a regular basis and Rivers had very little time to get settled in the pocket. He was forced to hurry many of his throws, leading to the accuracy issues.
At this point, Rivers remains a decent enough fantasy QB option, but his high status is falling fast and furious. He was outperformed by Carson Palmer Thursday evening, and things don't get any easier when he faces the Bears on the road next week. If you have another QB option, it might be time to consider benching Rivers if you haven't already.
The San Diego Chargers dropped a 24-17 decision to the Oakland Raiders on Thursday Night Football, and their rushing game was one of the casualties in the defeat. Ryan Mathews returned from a groin injury and split carries with Mike Tolbert throughout the evening. Mathews finished with six rushes for 34 yards and Tolbert finished with seven rushes for 36 yards.
The two backs also had fairly solid performances coming out of the backfield. Tolbert was targeted nine times and had five receptions for 37 yards. Mathews was targeted five times and had three receptions for 23 yards. It is safe to say this running back situation is a bit of a mess. The Chargers trailed for much of the game so it is not surprising that Tolbert got a lot of work given the need for passing plays.
It does not get much easier in week eleven as the Chargers travel to Chicago to face the generally stout Bears defense. If the Chargers fall behind early, we could see a repeat split of touches. Moving forward, it's entirely reasonably for you to decide between Tolbert and Mathews based on how you think the Chargers will do in a given week. If you don't want to make those kinds of predictions, Tolbert appears to be the safer play for now. Mathews does get some red zone touches, but Tolbert is the guy they roll with when their defense is struggling.
The Oakland Raiders emerged victorious against the San Diego Chargers on Thursday Night Football, but the victory came with a price. The team lost their number one receiver, Jacoby Ford, to a sprained foot. Ford injured the foot on a 41-yard reception as he was tangled up on the pass. Ford left on a cart but x-rays reportedly came back negative for any break. He finished the game on crutches and will be re-evaluated as we head into the weekend.
Ford was coming off big performance against the Denver Broncos in which he caught five receptions for 105 yards and a touchdown. He looked ready to get going for a second straight game before going down. The injury is being described in similar terms to Darren McFadden's own sprained foot, but we do not know yet whether it is as severe as McFadden's.
The Raiders were able to get by without Ford as rookie Denarius Moore blew up the Chargers secondary to the tune fo five receptions for 123 yards. After seeing Darrius Heyward-Bey getting many of Jason Campbell's targets, Ford and Moore have moved back ahead of him with Carson Palmer. We'll have more updates on Ford as more information is known about his injury.
The Oakland Raiders and San Diego Chargers put on an entertaining evening of football during their Thursday Night Football contest on NFL Network. Some of the offensive highlights featured a pair of rookie receivers breaking out for the world to see with huge catches. Denarius Moore was huge for the Raiders, but fellow rookie Vincent Brown had a big day himself. Brown finished the game with five receptions for 97 yards and a touchdown. He also just missed out on a 33-yard score.
Brown has spent much of his rookie season playing special teams and occasionally getting some targets. However, last week against the Green Bay Packers who took a solid step forward due to Malcom Floyd's hip injury. Filling in for Floyd, Brown had 79 yards on four receptions. With Floyd absent again this week, Brown stepped up for the Chargers against the Raiders as Vincent Jackson was virtually nonexistent for San Diego.
Moving forward, it will be interesting to see how much playing time Brown gets once Floyd is healthy. Given his performance the last two weeks, it is hard to keep him off the field. He showed serious skills on Thursday Night Football and has likely earned some additional snaps. While Floyd is out he could be a solid flex option. Once Floyd is back you will need to wait and see how the Chargers play it.
Here is some video of his touchdown catch. That is followed by video of his non-catch, ruled incomplete because he was fighting Lito Sheppard for the ball once Sheppard was already out of bounds.
The Oakland Raiders rode their ground game to victory on Thursday against the San Diego Chargers, but they were able to stretch the field a considerable amount in spite of losing their top receiver. Jacoby Ford went down with a foot sprain after his first reception for 41 yards. While he did not return to the game, QB Carson Palmer was able to overcome the loss and put together a strong performance for the evening. Palmer completed 14 of 20 passes for 299 yards, two touchdowns and an interception. He also lost a fumble when he was stripped from behind.
As the weeks go by, Carson Palmer is likely to get more and more comfortable in this offense. He has a host of young weapons at his disposal and is taking full advantage of them. He has running backs who can catch the ball out of the backfield. he has veteran experience in a version of Hue Jackson's offense. All things considered, this trade may not turn out so bad for the Raiders.
From a fantasy perspective, Palmer is quickly emerging as a very intriguing fantasy quarterback. He is likely going to have his share of turnovers, but he seems ready to overcome those with plenty of yards and touchdowns. It might not always be pretty, but he still has the arm to make the deep throws. His receivers have plenty of speed, so what is to stop him from becoming a consistently effective fantasy QB? The Chargers defense isn't exactly the best test, but even still, big games are big games.
Palmer should continue to improve as he spends more time in the offense. If he can get Jacoby Ford and Darren McFadden back healthy, all the better. At the very least, it will be fun to watch him chucking it deep.
For more on the Raiders, check out Silver & Black Pride.
Oakland Raiders rookie wide receiver Denarius Moore had his second monster game of the season and continues to tempt fantasy football owners with crazy speed and athleticism. Moore was an integral part of the Raiders 24-17 victory over the Chargers as he hauled in five receptions for 123 yards and two touchdowns. He added in an important 21-yard punt return that set up his first touchdown reception.
The Raiders rookie receiver has shown significant long-term fantasy potential, but in the short term it is tough to tell what he will do week-to-week. In week two, Moore grabbed five receptions for 146 yards and a touchdown, along with a 25-yard rush. However, since then he has been fairly quiet. Last week he finally emerged back on the scene, connecting with Carson Palmer for 61 yards on four catches.
The Raiders lost Jacoby Ford to a foot sprain, which could bode well for the fantasy value of Moore. If Palmer continues to feel this kind of chemistry with his rookie receiver, Moore could be in line for a strong run the rest of the season. Previous leading receiver Darrius Heyward-Bey has dropped almost entirely out of the conversation, and Moore could be in line for even more looks moving forward.
If you missed it, here are videos of his two touchdown receptions against the Chargers
Oakland Raiders running back Michael Bush continued his strong run of success in place of Darren McFadden as he put together 242 total yards of offense against the San Diego Chargers. The Raiders used a variety of weapons to defeat the Chargers 24-17, but the engine of Oakland's offense was Michael Bush. He rushed for 157 yards and caught three receptions for 85 additional yards.
Since taking over for McFadden in the first quarter of the Raiders week seven loss to the Kansas City Chiefs, Michael Bush has compiled 482 total yards and a pair of touchdowns. He is averaging 5.3 yards per rush and is proving to be the best backup running back in the NFL.
If you have Bush on your fantasy roster, he is a must-start as long as McFadden is sidelined with his sprained foot. McFadden continues to be hobbled by his foot injury and it could last another week. As long as that is the situation, Bush is one of the best running backs in the league and should be treated accordingly in your fantasy lineup.
A 25-year-old man was stabbed in the parking lot of Qualcomm Stadium following the San Diego Chargers' 24-17 loss to the Oakland Raiders on Thursday night, according to reports. The stabbing was reportedly the result of some kind of altercation following the game, and the victim was transported to a local hospital with a wound to his abdomen.
Two men started fighting after the game and it doesn't appear the fight had anything to do with a sports rivalry, San Diego police Officer David Stafford said.
The injury doesn't appear to be life-threatening, Stafford said. The victim was treated at a hospital for a stab wound to the abdomen.
The report added that the victim was uncooperative with police after being transported to a local hospital and treated for his wound.
After taking an early 3-0 lead over the Oakland Raiders, it was all Raiders from then on. The San Diego Chargers were out gained nearly four to one in the first half and trailed 17-3 at halftime. The Chargers rallied back in the second half, hitting some big plays in the passing game and got within a touchdown, but couldn't get much going late in the fourth quarter, ending the game on two consecutive sacks.
Once left tackle Marcus McNeill went down early in the game with a neck stinger, quarterback Philip Rivers was harassed all game long by the Raiders defense. Rivers was sacked six times total and hit another six times. Defensive end Kamerion Wimbley sacked Rivers four times, hitting him five times total. Ultimately, the Raiders forced the Chargers to play one-dimensional offensively with Rivers passing the ball 47 times, but he was beat up all game long and just couldn't get enough going early on and the game got away from them.
The Raiders offense on the other hand hit explosive play after explosive play. Quarterback Carson Palmer hit wide receiver Jacoby Ford early on a deep pass, but Ford sprained his left ankle on the play. Luckily for the Raiders, Denarius Moore was more than willing to step up and be the deep threat, ending the day with 5 catches for 123 yards and 2 touchdowns. Palmer ended the night completing 14 of 20 passes for 299 yards, 2 touchdowns, and an interception.
Even Michael Bush, filling in for the injured Darren McFadden had a great game. Bush had 157 rushing yards on 30 carries with a rushing touchdown, not to mention 3 receptions for 85 yards. The Raiders downed the Chargers 24-17 and now take the lead in the AFC West, which is still wide open.
After having what looked like a Vincent Brown touchdown wiped off the board for the San Diego Chargers after an Oakland Raiders challenge, the Chargers scored anyway. Philip Rivers connected on two passes, including a nice 17-yard catch and run by back up running back Mike Tolbert, the Chargers were setup in the red zone and scored on the next play.
There was confusion on the Raiders defense, as a safety attempted to call timeout because cornerback Stanford Routt was late getting on the field. Routt ran in on the play late, doubling up on the Chargers right end leaving fullback Jacob Hester wide open in the flat for an easy touchdown pass to cut the Raiders lead, 24-17.
Regardless, Philip Rivers was not impressed by the refs on the drive.
After a failed challenge by the Oakland Raiders on a Carson Palmer fumble, the San Diego Chargers got the football back at mid-field. After a nice 13-yard run by running back Ryan Mathews, Philip Rivers took a shot in the endzone to rookie Vincent Brown again. The play was originally ruled a touchdown, as Brown once again went up for the football with a defender on him and made the catch. The problem was, after a review Vincent Brown actually didn't make a catch.
According to the official, the Raiders defender's hand was touching the football while Brown was trying to possess the football. Since the Raiders defender was out of bounds while he was also touching the football, the pass was ruled incomplete and not a touchdown.
Not to be outdone by the San Diego Chargers, the Oakland Raiders offense continue to move the football down the field on big plays. Quarterback Carson Palmer once again hit running back Michael Bush out of the backfield, who once again lumbered down the field for a gain of 55 yards. Two plays later, Palmer connected with rookie wide receiver Denarius Moore once again in the endzone.
Moore once again beat his man off the line and Palmer rifled in a pass, with Moore catching the ball in the endzone for his second touchdown catch of the night to push the Chargers lead to 24-10. Already, Moore has 4 receptions for 112 yards and two touchdowns. Carson Palmer has already passed for 250 yards with just two incompletions.
After being out gained 293 yards to just 63 yards in the first half, the San Diego Chargers got their offense going to open the second half of the game. It took just eight plays for the Chargers to march down the field on the Oakland Raiders defense, mostly on the arm of quarterback Philip Rivers. Rivers struggled in the first half, but on the drive completed 5 of 7 passes on the drive, including five in a row and the touchdown pass to rookie receiver Vincent Brown cutting the Raiders lead 17-10.
Brown caught a 30-yard touchdown pass with two defenders draped all over him. Rivers just threw the ball up for Brown in the endzone and somehow he was able to hold on to the football with Raiders defenders scrambling to knock the football out.
The San Diego Chargers offense just can't seem to get going, as they were forced to another three-and-out, their fourth straight. The Raiders once again took the football after a nice Denarius Moore punt return and began to methodically move the football down the field with the legs of running back Michael Bush and with the arm of quarterback Carson Palmer.
On the first play of the drive, Palmer hit Bush out of the backfield for a perfectly executed screen pass, picking up 23 yards to get all the way to the San Deigo 33-yard line. After the two-minute warning, Carson Palmer struck down the football field once again. Palmer dropped back to pass, rolled out and hit Denarius Moore deep down the field for a 33-yard touchdown pass. Palmer has connected on four passes of 20 yards or more already in the game.
With Marcus McNeill out of the game with a neck stinger, the San Diego Chargers struggled to keep quarterback Phillip Rivers upright as he was sacked on third down when Raiders defensive end Kamerion Wimbley just exploded past the left tackle for the sack.
On the Raiders ensuing drive, after two runs by rookie Taiwan Jones including a 12-yarder, the Raiders once again took a shot deep down the field. Carson Palmer overthrew wide receiver Denarius Moore just a tad, but Moore made a fantastic grab of the football, catching the ball by the nose with his fingertips. Moore hauled the football in for a 46-yard gain, but the Raiders couldn't get the ball in the endzone.
After the Raiders were stuffed, Sebastian Janikowski booted through a knuckle ball to put the Raiders up 10-3.
After the Marcus McNeill injury, the San Diego Chargers wound up punting the football and giving it back to the Oakland Raiders. After a few short runs by running back Michael Bush, quarterback Carson Palmer tried the Chargers defense deep down the field. Parson connected with wide receiver Jacoby Ford, who made a twisting and spinning catch, injuring his ankle, for the 41-yard completion.
After Ford was carted to the locker room, newly signed wide receiver T.J. Houshmandzadeh made his first catch as a Raider. After that, the Raiders simply just pounded the football and abused the Chargers at the line of scrimmage. After picking up a hands to the face penalty, the Raiders got to the goal line. Michael Bush took the handoff from Palmer and leapt over the line, getting in for the touchdown as the Raiders take a 7-3 lead.
Oakland Raiders wide receiver and return man Jacoby Ford made a sensational 41-yard reception on a pass from quarterback Carson Palmer. Ford got a clean release at the line of scrimmage, beating Dante Hughes off the line, and made a spinning twisting catch. On the play, Ford injured his left ankle and immediately went down after completing the catch.
Ford was down for a while and needed assistance to get off of the football field. Ford was then carted to the locker room. Without Ford, the Raiders are hit at two positions, wide receiver and return man. Ford is explosive in both areas as evidenced by his reception. He's also a dangerous return man, capable of hitting a crease and scoring on any play because of his speed.
The Oakland Raiders got the football first, but promptly went three-and-out as quarterback Carson Palmer missed on his first two passes and running back Michael Bush was stuff at the line of scrimmage. On the ensuing punt, the San Diego Chargers employed a little bit of trickaration and threw a lateral to Marcus Gilchrist, who returned the ball 40 yards, giving the Chargers excellent field position.
The Chargers then went right down the field with Ryan Mathews picking up 19 yards on a pass reception, but the drive stalled out. The Chargers wound up kicking a field goal to go up 3-0. On the Raiders next drive, Michael Bush kicked off a 44-yard run, but the after that the Raiders drive stalled. With kicker Sebastian Janikowski nursing a hamstring injury, his range was limited. The Raiders lined up to punt, but Shane Lecher passed the ball deep down the field to Denarius Moore, who was ran out of bounds by Quentin Jammer.
According to the umpire, if a team is lined up in punt formation, pass interference cannot be called. The Raiders were lined up in punt formation, so there was no interference being called. The rule is in place so that it prevents teams from just running fake punts constantly and picking up cheap pass interference calls.
San Diego Chargers starting left tackle Marcus McNeill just went down with an apparent head injury, that could be a concussion. McNeill was pulling on a play, took on his blocker and took a helmet to the head then slammed the back of his head on the ground as he fell.
Oakland Raiders outside linebacker Aaron Curry blitz from the edge on a running play that had McNeill pulling from his left tackle position. Curry took on McNeill, getting under him and their helmets collided. McNeill went down almost immediately and his head slammed against the ground. McNeill was down for quite a while and wound up being carted off the field. McNeill is a big loss for a Chargers team that has had issues passing the football.
Thursday Night Football kicks off for the first time this season as the Oakland Raiders and San Diego Chargers battle it out on NFL Network. The Raiders and Chargers are in prime-time, battling for the top spot in the AFC West. And with game time fast approaching, the list of the injured and inactive is out.
Terrelle Pryor and Darren McFadden lead the list of inactive Oakland Raiders. Sebastian Janikowski is active, as expected, and will take the kicking duties on Thursday night.
RAIDERS INACTIVES: Terrelle Pryor, Jason Campbell, Darren McFadden, DeMarcus Van Dyke, Michael Huff, Chris Johnson, Bruce Campbell.
On the other side of the field, the following players are inactive for San Diego.
CHARGERS INACTIVES: Bryan Walters, Steve Gregory, Darryl Gamble, Kris Dielman, Malcolm Floyd, Vaughn Martin, Shaun Phillips
Both lists via @Raiders
The Oakland Raiders will rreportedly have Pro Bowl kicker Sebastian Janikowski available on Thursday Night Football. Janikowski has been dealing with a hamstring issue the last three weeks but was able to kick this past Sunday against the Denver Broncos. He has sat out practice all week for the Raiders, but likely tested it sufficiently yesterday to give the team the thumbs-up heading into the the huge divisional showdown with the San Diego Chargers.
Janikowski normally is a huge addition to the Raiders offense because he is so good when it comes to 50+ yard field goals. While he does not finish at the top in terms of overall accuracy, few kickers can match him on 55-57 yard field goals. That usually means that when the Raiders get to their opponent's 40 yard line, they are officially inside Seabass' range.
While the Raiders will have their big kicker in the lineup, there will be some concern about kicking those 50+ yard field goals. It will be interesting to see what options the Raiders consider that first time they are faced with that kind of decision. Whether they kick or punt will tell us a lot about how well Janikowski actually feels.
The Raiders and Chargers meet on Thursday Night Football in a crucial AFC West showdown, and after an ugly stretch for both teams, one of them will right the ship in San Diego tonight. All odds come courtesy of SB Nation's odds partners at OddsShark.com.
The Oakland Raiders and San Diego Chargers square off in the 2011 season premiere of Thursday Night Football in a huge divisional matchup in San Diego. The two teams are tied for first with the Kansas City Chiefs.
For the San Diego Chargers in the game and in fantasy football, the big question will be what to make of their running back situation. Ryan Mathews missed last week's game with a groin injury and Mike Tolbert filled in with 83 rushing yards, 59 receiving yards and a touchdown.
Now they face a Raiders defense that was thrashed by Willis McGahee in week nine. Chris Mortensen is reporting the Chargers hope is to get Ryan Mathews 15-20 touches on Thursday night. If Mathews gets those touches, it lowers the value of Tolbert to third down and goal line back. That is still a valuable role, but it doesn't guarantee anything resembling the work he had last week.
In spite of all this, Tolbert is a solid fantasy play this week. The Raiders have had considerable struggles against the run this season. If you have Tolbert AND Mathews, I actually think Tolbert ends up with better numbers tonight. It's not a pretty situation because of the questionable use of the two backs. But I think given that Mathews is not quite 100% yet, Tolbert will prove to be the better play on this night.
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The Oakland Raider and the San Diego Chargers are a combined 0-5 over the last three weeks of the season. Somebody will have to win Thursday, however, hopefully shedding some light on the murky AFC West standings.
San Diego Chargers running back Ryan Mathews looks to be back from his groin injury and playing on Thursday Night Football against the Oakland Raiders. Mathews was a full participant in practice for the second straight day and is listed as probable for Thursday night.
Mathews will likely get the start on Thursday, but expect Mike Tolbert to get a solid number of carries for the likely still less than 100% Mathews. Tolbert operates primarily as the third down back and goal line back. Mathews will get much of the between the 20s work, but Tolbert might even grab a decent amount of carries in that range.
The Chargers face a Raiders rush defense that ranks fairly poor on the season. Mathews is a solid enough start in his current role, but if you have Tolbert and no Mathews, Tolbert remains a solid start as well. Given Philip Rivers struggles in the passing game, the Chargers could dedicate a lot of time to controlling time of possession and dominating on the ground. That bodes well for both Mathews and Tolbert.
For more on the Chargers, check out Bolts from the Blue. Head over to SB Nation NFL for more on Chargers vs. Raiders on Thursday Night Football. For more on fantasy football, check out Fake Teams. Follow @sbnationfantasy on Twitter.
The Oakland Raiders have officially ruled out Darren McFadden for Thursday Night Football against the San Diego Chargers. McFadden injured his foot early in the Raiders Week 7 game against the Kansas City Chiefs and, despite having the bye week to recover, also missed Oakland's Week 9 game.
Initial reports after that Week 7 game suggested he could be ready for Week 9 but that obviously wasn't the case. Now it's looking like his total rehab time will be 2-4 weeks.
The Raiders are lucky to have one of the best backup running backs in the league in Michael Bush, who has 333 yards and three touchdowns on 79 attempts this year.
The Raiders are tied for first place in the AFC West with San Diego so Thursday's game is a big one as far as the division race is concerned.
The Raiders have a few injury questions heading into the game. Check out SB Nation's Silver and Black Pride to get caught up.
The Oakland Raiders and San Diego Chargers released their Tuesday practice participation reports as they prepare for their divisional Thursday Night Football showdown. The teams are tied for first and looking to gain an edge in their first of two games this season.
The biggest news from Tuesday's report was that Ryan Mathews was a full participant in practice. Mathews has been dealing with a groin injury, which is an injury that can easily lead to setbacks. If Mathews suffers no setbacks, he would likely split carries to some extent with Mike Tolbert on Thursday. Their is not always a clearly defined role between the two. Of course, both have struggled to stay healthy this season, so both have been necessary to get through each week.
The Raiders will likely be without Darren McFadden for Thursday's game, which means Michael Bush will get the start at running back, with Taiwan Jones backing him up. Sebastian Janikowski continues to sit out practice and the Raiders will likely reassess him on Wednesday before making a decision on bringing in a temporary kicker once again.
TUESDAY PRACTICE PARTICIPATION REPORT
Did Not Participate In Practice: T Khalif Barnes (shoulder), QB Jason Campbell (collarbone), S Michael Huff (ankle), K Sebastian Janikowski (left hamstring), CB Chris Johnson (groin, hamstring), RB Darren McFadden (foot), C Samson Satele (knee), DT Richard Seymour (ankle), CB DeMarcus Van Dyke (hamstring), S Chinedum Ndukwe
Full Participation In Practice: WR Richard Goodman (groin), RB Ryan Mathews (groin)
NFL Network reporter Jason LaCanfora is reporting that Oakland Raiders team sources have indicated to him that running back Darren McFadden will sit out Thursday's game against the San Diego Chargers. McFadden sprained his foot in the Raiders week seven contest against the Kansas City Chiefs. He left in the first quarter and has struggled to return since. He only recently got off crutches and has not begun running yet.
Michael Bush will get the start in place of McFadden with Taiwan Jones operating as McFadden's primary backup. Past performance indicates Bush will get just about all the carries, but it is possible we could see the Raiders mix Jones into the play-calling a little bit more. He brings athleticism that could help stretch out the Chargers defense.
For getting a Raiders win Taiwan Jones could be quite solid. For fantasy purposes, not so much. Bush has proven to be one of the best backup running backs in the NFL and he will continue to benefit while McFadden is sidelined. The Chargers enter Thursday Night Football with a struggling run defense. The Raiders passing game has a few question marks at this point so they will want to exploit the run advantage where possible to try and swing the upset.
We break down the first practice participation report for the week as the Oakland Raiders and San Diego Chargers prepare for Thursday Night Football. For more on the Raiders, check out Silver & Black Pride. For more on the Chargers, check out Bolts from the Blue.
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