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Bengals cut DT Phillips, CB Fletcher and WR Orton; down to 77 players

Kirkendall — Sat, 29 Aug 2009 18:18:07 -0000

On Friday, we raised the point that the Bengals will need to cut five players to get under the 75-man roster limit come September 1. We looked at the roster and conjectured what positions the Bengals could look at.

On Saturday, the Bengals cut three. Cornerback Jamar Fletcher, who was house-sitting until David Jones returns -- and the play of Morgan Trent hasn't been that bad. Defensive tackle Pernell Phillips and wide receiver Greg Orton were the others. Neither Phillips or Orton got any playing time during the preseason.

This brings the Bengals count to 77. Now the Bengals are down to nine wide receivers, six cornerbacks and four defensive tackles -- the fourth being recently signed Langston Moore. Jason Shirley could arguably help out here, since he was a defensive tackle a few weeks ago.

Expect two more cuts by this Tuesday.

Depth of the 2009 Cincinnati Bengals Part 2: Defense

jsl413 — Sat, 22 Aug 2009 19:47:09 -0000

My boy Tom Nelson got a free shot at NE backup Brian Hoyer. Soon after this picture was taken, Hoyer was spotted napping quietly on the turf. Sources say Hoyer did not take his helmet off before napping, leading to speculation that Nelson hit him really hard. (AP Photo/Charles Krupa)

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There was some debate as to whether or not the offense was quite as deep as I contended it was, particularly at the running back positions. Today, I'll take a look at the Bengals defensive depth, and make use of the jump to try to shorten our front page a little bit!

In short, I think the defense this year can only improve upon last year's 12th place effort. Additions of guys like Roy Williams and Tank Johnson, rookies Rey Maualuga and Michael Johnson are the primary reasons that the defense is so deep this year. Add to the mix that Chris Crocker will have a full off-season under his belt this year, DT Pat Sims has shown flashes of excellence in his second year, and Antwan Odom and Robert Geathers look to be healthy, and you've got to feel good about this defense.

Significant losses on the defensive side of the ball were relatively few. John Thornton is no longer with the team and Orien Harris was traded (the Harris loss is listed as the only "key" defensive loss at nologoneeded.com, which I find to be hilarious.)

A look at defensive depth (note, I'm looking at depth more than I'm focusing on overall talent), position by position, after the jump.

Defensive Tackle: We'll start up front with the big men. While our defensive tackle rotation is not particularly deep, I think it is more talented this year than we've seen it in quite some time. Domata Peko is the real deal. Pat Sims, as this blog has mentioned, looks like he could be a very good player this year too. Tank Johnson, the smallest of the top three at 305 pounds, has a history of being a productive player when he stays focused on the field.

Peko is a pretty good all around tackle. I think he is especially strong against the run. I haven't seen enough of Sims to really quantify his skill set, but he is a big, powerful man, and could occupy multiple blockers as he develops this year. Johnson is reputed as a guy that gets good pressure on the quarterback from an interior line position. If these 3 stay healthy, I think there is a good chance that this unit is extremely productive this year. Mike Zimmer and DL Coach Jay Hayes have a good combination of size and various skill sets at the tackle position this year.

Defensive End: Similar to defensive tackle, the depth at end is not astounding, but it's solid and exciting. This unit should vastly outperform last year's lackadaisical effort that mustered little-to-no pressure on the quarterback week in and week out.

All that really starts with the return of a healthy Antwan Odom and Robert Geathers. It had to be a very encouraging moment for Bengals fans to see Geathers absolutely light up Tom Brady on Thursday night. Here's to hoping that speed endures this season, and Geathers continues to run around offensive tackles to lay the hurt on opposing QBs. Antwan Odom has not been remarkable this preseason, but looks much better than he did last year when he was hurt.

What makes this unit exciting is the continuing emergence of Jonathan Fanene and the addition of rookie freak athlete Michael Johnson. I was a little put off at the end of the game on Thursday when I saw Johnson take a play off - but I guess it didn't really matter, there were 15 seconds left in a preseason game. It's something to keep an eye on, however. We'll have to really watch how he does at shedding blockers and using his 6'7", 260 pound frame to his advantage this year. Fanene was a project when we picked him up in 2005. But he is a big man (292 pounds) and was very productive when th team was winning games and being "competitive" late last year.

It really seems like every time he's on the field, good things happen. Bengals fans have got to like this sort of depth and potential. All four of these guys are young and can still get better, especially as Zimmer employs more blitzes and the tackles improve this year.

Linebackers: I'm lumping all these guys together because there are a lot of interchangeable parts at linebacker for the Bengals this year. You've got to really like the wide array of skill sets and talent in the top 6 linebackers this year. Keith Rivers is in line for a monster season. The guy plays with a mean streak and has a chip on his shoulder after suffering the broken jaw last year. I liken him to Troy Polomalu in terms of demeanor - that is, he is soft spoken and cerebral off the field, but he has an animalistic drive to hit, hit, hit on Sundays.

Dhani Jones is a pretty cool guy, and a good football player. He did a very good job last year for the Bengals. I mean very good: he was one of only five players on the entire team to start every game. He led the team in tackles. He was third on the team in passes defensed. To top it off, his teammates voted him defensive captain. He is a positive influence on the young guys like Rivers and Maualuga, and a vibrant locker room personality.

Then it gets interesting. Rashad Jeanty has worked extremely hard since the Bengals acquired him out of the CFL in 2006. But how long can Rey Maualuga ride pine? For now, this is sort of inconsequential because Jeanty has played in the preseason and Maualuga has limited time. We'll see how the preseason finishes out at SAM. Jeanty will likely go into the season as the starter, but Rey Rey will get time off the bench, and he'll be a fun little fireball to watch.

I think Brandon Johnson and Abdul Hodge have had good showings in preseason, and both of these guys are likely to be special teams contributors as well as solid defensive substitutes to keep the starters fresh. There is a pretty significant drop off here, but that's more due to the talent of Rivers, the leadership of Jones, and Jeanty's consistency than a slight to Johnson and Hodge (who, to be fair, have flashed some pretty nice skills in this preseason). We'll see what happens with Maualuga's progression as the regular season nears, but he may need some time to prepare for a prominent role.

Cornerback: I am not particularly ecstatic with our cornerback corps this year. Joseph and Hall, if healthy, will be pretty serviceable and can occasionally cover guys on an island. I still think they'd be best served by regular help over the top, although Jonathan Joseph has speed to burn. Leon Hall shows good coverage skills, especially on intermediate routes. I think our high expectations for these guys are legitimate. Joseph had a pretty good game against Randy Moss on Thursday.

Beyond the starters though, I don't have much confidence in Geoffrey Pope, David Jones, Morgan Trent, or Jamar Fletcher. I was a strong advocate of picking up a third corner in free agency, but the Bengals spurned my desires and instead decided that David Jones could hack it at Nickel Corner. I guess Jones had a lot of playing time last year with injuries to our top corners, so maybe he'll be passable.

Coverage last year was solid - especially given the lack of a pass rush. Can't argue with results. This unit will be okay as long as Hall and Joseph are healthy. It might be okay for a few weeks without one of them, but if both go down, there will be problems.

Safety: Lumping these guys together too for simplicity's sake. I think this is a very deep position for the Bengals this year. The most attractive thing about Bengal safeties this year is a good mix of hard-hitting and strong coverage. Chinedum Ndukwe and Marvin White have not looked great this preseason, and it's sort of early to judge as we haven't seen many teams go over the top against the Bengals first team defense (Brady overthrew somewhat open receivers twice on Thursday).

There is some valid concern about the coverage skills of guys like Roy Williams and Chris Crocker, who are generally known for their hitting - and in Williams's case, knocked for coverage. It is hard to argue that this is not a talented top 4 guys, though. A rotation that caters to the strengths of Williams in the running game and White in coverage could be efficient for Zimmer this year.

The Bengals will likely retain Corey Lynch this year, as he showed value on special teams last year and is a smart defender. While we're talking about safeties, I'll point out that Tom Nelson is from my hometown (Arlington Heights, a NW Chicago Suburb), and is a guy that really improved his stock on Thursday.

Overall: Depth on the defensive side of the ball is strong at safety, defensive end, and linebacker. Defensive tackle and corner depth is decent at best, with some significant fall off in talent and production once you get past the top guys on the depth chart. Let me know what you think about the backup corners, who I haven't paid much attention to but tend to feel unsure about.

Notes on the Bengals mock game on Saturday

Kirkendall — Sun, 09 Aug 2009 17:35:42 -0000

Here's a series of notes that the Bengals beat writers took that I wanted to highlight.

Playing with only a shell and shoulder pads, The team's reserves (white team) beat the team's starters (black team) in the annual mock game, 21-17.

Carson Palmer, who completed 12 of 17 passes for 131 yards passing with a touchdown and pick, didn't get sacked.

Stats: His younger brother Jordan, completed 10 of 14 passes for 104 yards passing. Chad Ochocinco Johnson caught seven passes for 79 yards receiving. Henry and Caldwell caught three each and Coffman finished with four passes -- second most for the black team.

Jerome Simpson caught a 63-yard pass by J.T. O'Sullivan with Jamar Fletcher covering.

Antwan Odom had the only sack in the Mock Game.

Kevin Huber averaged 51.5 yards on two punts -- one went 52 yards, the other 51 yards.

Antonio Chatman hurt his lower leg on Friday and "could be out awhile." As a result, Bob Bratkowski said that Maurice Purify "is making a run."

After missing Friday's intrasquad scrimmage, Bernard Scott played with the Black Team (mostly starters) and backed up Cedric Benson.

Bratkowski said that Saturday they "weren't t as sharp as we need to be. We missed some blitzes. We need to fix that."

Chad Ochocinco Johnson will create a new list this year; instead of opposing cornerbacks, it'll be the opposing defensive coordinators.

Ochocinco is playing this year with a chip on his shoulder:

"My bad is good," he said of last year. "A lot of receivers have never had 540 yards in a season. If you base what you saw last year on what I'm going to do this year, you're mistakenly wrong. I like to take the bulk of the blame on myself. If my grandmother was the quarterback, I should have had 1,000 yards. One of my mottos is I'm going to play two seasons in one as far as productivity. I owe us, the team, the city, and a lot it is based off last year."

Cornerback David Jones could be out for awhile; Bengals sign Jamar Fletcher

Kirkendall — Sun, 02 Aug 2009 16:10:54 -0000

The Bengals singed cornerback Jamar Fletcher, the team announced Sunday morning. Fletcher was with the Bengals in 2008, recording "21 tackles, three passes defensed, a fumble recovery and two special-teams tackles" in 11 games played and two starts. From 2005 until 2008, Fletcher played on four different teams -- Chargers, Lions, Texans, Bengals -- before re-signing with Cincinnati this weekend in response to David Jones' injury he suffered on Saturday.

The signing brings the roster back up to 79 signed players with the 80th being Andre Smith, whenever he signs.

As for David Jones, Geoff Hobson writes:

(Cornerback) David Jones has been seen in a boot and he wasn't in the night practice. Lewis would only call it a "foot injury," and said Jones wouldn't practice Saturday night. The Bengals just got a cornerback out of a boot and on to the field when rookie Morgan Trent made a quick recovery from a foot stress fracture. If Jones has something similar, it's a six-to-eight week injury.

Lewis didn't sound optimistic. Asked if it was day-to-day he said, "Probably not.

Chargers By The (Jersey) Number: #25

John (obviousman) — Tue, 07 Jul 2009 14:00:25 -0000

Blah. I'm not going to lie, this crop is nothing to write home about. Even so, the players need to be tackled and investigated. I wouldn't be surprised if this one came down to a vote simply because nobody is good enough to beat out the rest of the field based on what he's done on the field. Ready? Let's go.

Not Good Enough:

Kevin Ellison, S - Not yet, kid.
Paul Bradford, CB - Sometimes the stats leave you with more questions than answers. Drafted by the San Diego Chargers in the 5th round of the 1997 NFL Draft, Bradford started 4 games at cornerback in his rookie season. In those games he picked off 2 passes (returning 1 for a TD) and recovered a fumble (for another defensive TD). He also collected 23 tackles, which ain't too shabby for a DB. Seems like he was off to a great start, right? Well, what the heck happened? That rookie season was his last with the Chargers and his last in the NFL.
Wayne Morris, RB - The long-time St. Louis Cardinals running back spent his final season with the Chargers. The results were unimpressive. 5 carries, 12 yards, 1 TD.
Steve Newell, WR - Don't be surprised if you don't know the name. Newell played in 7 games with the 1967 Chargers squad, catching 7 passes for 68 yards. Then he disappeared from football.
Dick Speights, DB/KR - Now I'm starting to think Ellison should change his number fast. 25 appears to be cursed, after being worn by so many one-and-done players. Speights' entire NFL career is made up of a single kick return with the Chargers in 1968. It was returned for 21 yards.
Maurice Tyler, SS - Maurice was a journeyman safety in the 70s. He played 7 seasons for 6 different teams, spending only 1 season with the Chargers. He collected no stats while playing in San Diego.
Jamar Fletcher, CB - Fletcher had ridiculous talent but could never play consistently. He won the 2000 Jim Thorpe Award, given to college football's best defensive back, and was drafted in the first round by the Miami Dolphins. After four disappointing years he was traded to San Diego, where he played the nickel and dime corner spots. Occasionally he would flash greatness, and he was an outstanding tackler for a corner, but it never turned into anything. In two years with the Chargers he amassed 1 sack, 2 picks, 1 fumble recovery, 67 tackles and zero starts. Fletcher, while a good 3rd or 4th cornerback, can officially be labeled a draft bust.
Alex Molden, CB - Molden was okay during his two seasons with the Chargers. In 2002 he had the best season of his career, picking off 3 passes, recovering 2 fumbles and recording 79 tackles. He even sacked the quarterback twice that season. However, in the following year Molden was lost in a defensive backfield overhaul that included spending two draft picks on Sammy Davis and Drayton Florence. With young Quentin Jammer coming on, Molden had no chance.
Sean Vanhorse, CB - Although Vanhorse was taken in the 6th round of the 1990 NFL Draft by the Miami Dolphins, his first in-game action came as a Charger two seasons later. He spent three seasons in San Diego, appearing in 47 games but starting only 20. His stats for that time period include 5 interceptions (1 returned for a TD), 1 forced fumble and 120 tackles. Not bad, but not good enough for a team that went to the Super Bowl and had high hopes for the future.
Dick Westmoreland, CB - You don't see players coming out of colleges like North Carolina A&T anymore and that's a shame. Dick signed with the Chargers in 1963 and spent three years with the team. As the starter in 1964 he intercepted 6 passes. Westmoreland left for the greener pastures of Miami, where he eventually became a Pro Bowl cornerback.

Contenders

via www.remembertheafl.com

Claude "Hoot" Gibson, CB/PR. Back when the game of football was played by the best possible players at all time, meaning a lot of two-way playing, Hoot was still looked at with awe. Playing at NC State, Gibson was a defensive back, receiver, return man and halfback. In his first three seasons, Gibson rarely came out of a ballgame. He led the Pack in punt returns in 1958 and 1960, kickoff returns in ’59 and interceptions in 1960 with four. He provided crucial rushing and receiving yards whenever needed. He played his entire senior season with a broken hand and wrist. Gibson concluded his senior year by playing in four post-season all-star games — Senior Bowl, Copper Bowl, Coaches All-America Bowl and the Chicago All-Star Game. Long story short, Hoot never ran out of gas.

Claude was drafted by both the Bears (NFL) and Chargers (AFL) and decided to come to sunny San Diego. In his two seasons with the Bolts, he was impressive as a punt returner (14.9 Yds/PR in 1961), kick returner (27.5 Yds/KR in 1962) and cornerback (13 INTs, 1 TD). Following the crushing loss to the Oilers in the 1961 AFL Championship, Gibson was traded to the Oakland Raiders. He excelled as a punt returner with the Raiders, but rarely returned kicks and was only average as a cornerback. Hoot still owns the third best punt return average of all professional football players with 75 or more punt returns. He returned 110 punts for 1,381 yards during his career for a 12.1 average and scored three punt return touchdowns.

After three seasons with the Raiders he Hoot abruptly retired and moved into coaching. At age 29 he coached the Boston Patriot DBs, becoming the youngest assistant coach in professional football. Hoot eventually became the head football coach at tiny Mars Hills College. He spent 10 seasons there, compiling a 55-37-2 record, winning one South Atlantic Conference championship, producing four Division II All-Americans and 25 All-SAC players.

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Vencie Glenn, FS. Vencie was a good, but not great, Free Safety in the 80s and 90s. He was drafted by the Patriots, but never saw the field with them. He finished his rookie season as the starter in San Diego and followed it up with four strong seasons. In less than 5 seasons with the Bolts, Glenn picked off 12 passes, recovered 6 fumbles and collected 311 tackles. He scored two defensive touchdowns, one on a 103 yard interception return and the other on a fumble return.

In 1990, with the Chargers coming off a down year, Glenn left town and signed with the Saints. In the last 5 years of his career, he never finished with less than 4 interceptions. His finest season may have been his final season, playing with the New York Giants. He had 5 interceptions (1 TD), 3 forced fumbles, 2 fumble recoveries and collected 85 tackles.

The Winner

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Jerry LeVias, WR/KR. Jerry has a story that's too long to go into here. To try and sum it up, he was a great player who had a lot to do with breaking racial barriers in the Southwest Conference by playing at Southern Methodist University. He is a civil rights pioneer comparable to Jackie Robinson and, like Mr. Robinson, he survived and excelled only because he was such an incredible talent. His abilities on the football field transcended color to SMU's fans and eventually to the rest of that historically white conference.

Jerry was on the All-SWC team three times and was an All-American as a senior. He twice led the league in receiving and held every career record when his three varsity seasons ended, including the single game mark for reception yardage (when he caught 8 passes for 213 yards against North Carolina State in 1968.) LeVias ended his career with a TD catch in SMU's scintillating victory over the Oklahoma Sooners in the 1968 Bluebonnet Bowl and followed that as the MVP of the Senior Bowl. On top of these achievements on the field, LeVias was an Academic All-American his senior year.

LeVias was drafted by the Houston Oilers and spent two seasons with them. He was responsible for almost half of the Oilers' yardage in 1970 and went to the Pro Bowl as a rookie in 1969. After coming over to San Diego he remained and electrifying player, but struggled with injuries and missed most of the 1972 season. As a Charger he had a 6.5 Yds/Ret average on punts and 22.5 Yds/Ret average on kick returns. He also caught 61 passes for 914 yards and 2 receiving touchdowns.

The physicality of the pro game eventually wore on LeVias, who famously remarked, "As the season progresses I get lighter, faster and more afraid." Well versed in avoiding the measuring tape as well as bigger defensive players, one scout claimed to have measured LeVias at 5'8" 163. The pro game eventually became unappealing to LeVias, who already prepared for life after football, working for the Conoco oil company and having a partnership in a Houston men's clothing store even while playing. After his career ended, LeVias became a successful businessman.

Jerry LeVias wins and will represent Chargers jersey #25.

Tampa Bay Buccaneers showing "significant interest" in CB Jamar Fletcher

Kirkendall — Sat, 28 Feb 2009 19:00:05 -0000

A clue on how well your team is put together, is watching what happens to the free agents that you allow to hit the market. If other teams are quick to pick up your left overs, or players you can't/won't sign, then you know you're stocked because you don't have the room for players that other teams deem as worthy talent.

After Ryan Fitzpatrick and Stacy Andrews, the interest just hasn't been there for other players not named T.J. Houshmandzadeh. If the lack of reports is any indication, even running back Cedric Benson has drawn little interest on the market.

One player garnering interest is cornerback Jamar Fletcher, reports the Pewter Report.

PewterReport.com is reporting the Bucs have expressed significant interest in Cincinnati Bengals free agent CB Jamar Fletcher and Buffalo Bills free agent CB Jabari Greer.

Fletcher, 29, is considered a journeyman, having played for Miami, San Diego, Detroit, Houston and Cincinnati during his NFL career.

The 5-foot-10, 180-pound Fletcher originally entered the NFL with Miami when Bucs defensive coordinator Jim Bates served in that capacity with the Dolphins. Fletcher played with the Dolphins for three seasons. He has posted seven career interceptions and one touchdown, and possesses the bump-and-run skills Bates is looking for in his defensive backs.

Open Thread: Pick five free agents to re-sign

Kirkendall — Tue, 27 Jan 2009 17:49:43 -0000

The following players are free agents. Your job is to pick five players that you would sign. Obviously, Houshmandzadeh would be a popular one, so really, we don't need to list him do we? My list goes Cedric Benson, Chris Crocker, Brandon Johnson, Rashad Jeanty and Houshmandzadeh. Stacy Andrews is a curious one, considering that he might sign a one-year deal to prove that his knee is repaired/healthy. Ryan Fitzpatrick is another, a backup quarterback that's played games in the same system.

Unrestricted Free Agent

Stacey Andrews
Cedric Benson
Darryl Blackstock
Chris Crocker
Ryan Fitzpatrick
Jamar Fletcher
Eric Ghiaciuc
Shayne Graham
T.J. Houshmandzadeh
John Thornton

Restricted Free Agent

John Busing
DeDe Dorsey
Glenn Holt
Rashad Jeanty
Brandon Johnson
Corey Mays

Exclusive Rights Free Agents

Daniel Coats
Orien Harris

What are your guy's five selections?

Bengals' Mike Zimmer lead a defensive unit that could be scary-good in 2009

Kirkendall — Mon, 29 Dec 2008 15:37:17 -0000

I think one of the most understated changes this season that's been largely ignored by everyone (including us), was the acquisition of defensive coordinator, Mike Zimmer. Even though the Bengals finished the season with the league's 19th scoring defense, but 12th on total defense, they were, in many cases the primary reason for the Bengals .563 winning percentage in the second half of the season. Was the defense perfect? Hell no. In fact, their performances between playoff teams Pittsburgh, Baltimore and Indianapolis was terrible; however, we still have trouble largely blaming them when the Bengals offense goes three-and-out eight times against the Ravens (that's just one example). Were there strides that should be taken into the offseason, improved upon and granted for growth? Hell yes.

Opp.	Points	Yards	TO	1st Downs	3rd Conv	3-and-out
Jaguars	19	282	1	18	5/13	4
Eagles	13	391	4	16	3/18	5
Steelers	27	364	1	20	6/14	3
Ravens	34	451	0	20	8/17	2
Colts	35	334	1	20	4/8	1
Redskins	13	280	2	15	4/14	4
Browns	0	182	4	13	4/12	2
Chiefs	6	220	1	14	4/13	3

You'll note in games they won, that the defense largely limited the opposing offense's third-down conversions.

At times, it became evident that the defense was undermanned, with guys like David Jones and Jamar Fletcher, performing as well as they could, against the opposition's second and third wide receivers. It also showed that of the games we lost, the defense's depth was largely exposed because opposing offenses held onto the ball for long periods of time; we just couldn't rotate guys in with similar talent of the guys that started.

Schemes were more aggressive, ranging from (more) contact by the cornerbacks off the line of scrimmage, to bringing two to three blitzing linebackers and/or safeties. Even though the blitz didn't result in quarterback sacks, they were largely responsible for third down incomplete passes that forced opposing teams to punt.

That's the impressive part. Being the league's second-worst pass rushing defense, the Bengals still managed to be the league's 15th best pass defense. That means the secondary covered deep, and the linebackers (especially Dhani Jones) sat underneath. It means that while quarterbacks were given five seconds in the pocket, the passing defense did everything they could to limit passing gains.

I know as fans, you want to have the best in everything. So do I. In truth, the Bengals started rookies, moved a defensive tackle to end, and signed guys off the streets and the team's practice squad. It could have been so much worse. In a sense, the Bengals didn't have a lot of varsity players out there, and beat poor offenses down the stretch; if you can't beat up on the bad teams, then you have nothing to improve upon.

When guys like Keith Rivers, Marvin White, Johnathan Joseph, Robert Geathers, Frostee Rucker, and Corey Lynch return (you can add Dexter Jackson if you're so bold), along with role player acquisitions and further development through the draft, this team won't just be better, it could be just as scary good; just as it could be bitterly disappointing (that's the Bengals fan in me throwing a non-Kool Aid disclaimer).

What is it with hamstring injuries?

Kirkendall — Thu, 30 Oct 2008 19:48:58 -0000

After the news that Dexter Jackson went on Injured Reserve because of a hamstring injury, I realized that Jackson's injury is becoming a trend. In fact, along with Jackson, Herana-Daze Jones, Reagan Maui'a, Dede Dorsey, have all been lost for the season because of a hamstring. That's four of 11 (13 if you're counting the injury-waived players). Admittedly, I don't know the overall rate for hamstring injuries across the league, but I'm sure it's not as high. I understand the difference between a sore hamstring and a truly injured hamstring and it seems like our team has the most injured (not just sore) hamstrings.

Jamar Fletcher and Kenny Watson have missed time because of a hamstring problem and Brandon Johnson, T.J. Houshmandzadeh, Chris Perry, and Johnathan Joseph has showed up on injury reports because of a hamstring; though they've played through it.

On the latest injury report, Jonathan Fanene was added as the latest hamstring injury. That's nearly a fifth of the team that's dealt with some hamstring problem through eight games this season.

Final Injury Report: Jaguars @ Bengals

Kirkendall — Thu, 30 Oct 2008 15:14:27 -0000

STATUS

BENGALS

OUT: WR Andre Caldwell (foot), S Dexter Jackson (hamstring), QB Carson Palmer (right elbow), WR Jerome Simpson (ankle)
QUESTIONABLE: LB Rashad Jeanty (foot)
PROBABLE: DE Jonathan Fanene (hamstring), CB Jamar Fletcher (hamstring), WR Glenn Holt (chest), WR Chad Johnson (foot), TE Reggie Kelly (neck), LB Corey Mays (ankle), S Nedu Ndukwe (ribs), DT Domata Peko (ankle), TE Ben Utecht (chest)

JAGUARS

OUT: WR Mike Walker (knee)
QUESTIONABLE: CB Rashean Mathis (foot), WR Reggie Williams (hamstring)

Practices

BENGALS	Wed.	Thurs.	Fri.
WR Andre Caldwell (foot)	OUT	OUT	OUT
QB Carson Palmer (right elbow)	OUT	OUT	OUT
WR Jerome Simpson (ankle)	OUT	OUT	OUT
DT Domata Peko (ankle)	DNP	FP	FP
DE Jonathan Fanene (hamstring)	LP	FP	FP
WR Glenn Holt (chest)	LP	LP	FP
S Dexter Jackson (hamstring)	LP	OUT	OUT
LB Rashad Jeanty (foot)	LP	DNP	FP
CB Jamar Fletcher (hamstring)	FP	FP	FP
TE Reggie Kelly (neck)	FP	FP	FP
LB Corey Mays (ankle)	FP	FP	FP
S Chinedum Ndukwe (ribs)	FP	FP	FP
TE Ben Utecht (chest)	FP	FP	FP
WR Chad Johnson (foot)	--	--	LP

JAGUARS
G Chris Naeole (hand)	OUT	OUT	OUT
WR Mike Walker (knee)	OUT	OUT	OUT
RB Fred Taylor (not injury related)	DNP	--	--
WR Reggie Williams (hamstring)	LP	LP	LP
K Josh Scobee (thumb)	FP	FP	FP
CB Rashean Mathis (foot)	--	LP	DNP

DNP - Did Not Practice
LP - Limited Participation in Practice
FP - Full Participation in Practice