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Jurgen Klinsmann will take over the U.S. team to a chorus of cheers, but he'll likely be ushered out by boos, if not tears
Jul 28, 2011 - United States Soccer Federation president Sunil Gulati took a bold step on Thursday, firing head coach Bob Bradley just one year after handing him a new four-year contract. It's a move that was met by cheers from many fans of U.S. soccer, many of whom who believed that Bradley was either incompetent and/or that no coach should be in charge of a national team for two World Cup cycles. The question now turns to who will replace Bradley as head coach with all signs pointing to it being Gulati's long-time crush, Jurgen Klinsmann.
It's not much of a secret that Gulati has sought Klinsmann for years now. In fact, Bradley's entire time as U.S. coach has been overshadowed by Gulati's incessant yearning for Klinsmann. When Bruce Arena was dismissed following the 2006 World Cup Gulati wanted to bring in Klinsmann to lead the U.S. team, but after courting him for four months the deal fell apart and Gulati hired Bradley as an interim head coach. Bradley eventually was shed of the interim tag, but after an awful 2009 Gold Cup final, people were calling for Klinsmann again. After the 2010 World Cup Bradley was left in limbo while Gulati chased Klinsmann once more, only for Bradley to be brought back again. After blowing a 2-0 lead in the 2011 Gold Cup final there was talk that Bradley had to be fired for, you guessed it, Klinsmann. Well, it took some time, but a little more than a month after that 4-2 loss to Mexico in the final, Bradley has gotten the axe and it looks like Klinsmann is coming in.
The question is why Gulati wants Klinsmann so badly. I suppose he gets some credibility for being a legendary player, but should that really matter? Lots of amazing players have gone on to be terrible managers, meanwhile Jose Mourinho could barely be classified as having had a professional playing career of note.
What Klinsmann continues to stand on as a manager is his time in charge of Germany at the 2006 World Cup. He took over an aging squad that had been embarrassed at Euro 2004, shed the dead weight, brought in some young guys and took them to the World Cup semifinals on home soil. It's something that could be on the top line of any resume and on being the manager of a World Cup semifinalist alone he would walk in as the most accomplished head coach that the U.S. has ever had.
A closer inspection of Klinsmann's tenure as Germany manager chips away at some of Klinsmann's shine though. A match-by-match look at Germany's 2006 World Cup doesn't show anything overly impressive. They finished stop of a group comprised of Costa Rica, Poland and Ecuador. Impressive? He beat Sweden in the round of 16, hardly a win of epic proportions. Taking out Argentina in the quarterfinals was a nice win, but that was one of the more average Argentine teams in recent years and it took penalty kicks to get by them. When Germany was really tested was in the semifinals and that's where their run came to an end as Italy disposed of them. Six matches, one top notch team and a loss to them with a win over an average Argentina team as the highlight and all while having the advantage of playing in front of raucous home crowds.
Following the tournament Klinsmann was looked at as a German hero, but that is because his success was judged against a disappointing and underachieving 2004 Euro team, not what reasonable expectations were for a team full of talent playing on home soil against middling teams. Nobody is going to say that making a World Cup semifinal doesn't mean much, especially for a U.S. team that has only gone that far once and that was way back in 1930. That said, Klinsmann wasn't a miracle worker and that's even when taking into account that his impact on that 2006 team has been questioned with some attributing much of the tactical success to current Germany coach and then assistant, Joakim Low.
Klinsmann has had one other managerial job and he was a downright terrible. He took over a Bayern Munich team that won the Bundesliga the previous year and drove them down the table, saw them get knocked out in the cup quarterfinals and with the dressing room is pieces, was fired before the season ended. In his partial season Klinsmann's tactical naivete was exposed, his scouting abilities were questioned and the club found itself several steps back from where they were when he took over.
Now it looks like he's ready to take over the U.S. team and if so supporters better bunker down for some rough times. Those who liked to question Bradley tactics, and there were instances that deserved plenty of questioning, conveniently forget that there were times where Bradley was tactically brilliant. He was the first manager to pressure high up the field against Argentina and make it difficult for Lionel Messi to get service instead of dropping deeper to double mark the Argentine wonder. He narrowed the field against Spain in the 2009 Confederations Cup semifinal and was still able to stretch them vertically with Charlie Davies up top. Nobody will call Bradley a tactical genius, but he's shown to be much more tactically adept than Klinsmann so if tactics were an issue for Bradley, what will they be for the German?
More than anything, Klinsmann will be hamstrung by the thing that managers are most dependent on, his players. American fans like to pretend that the U.S. team should continue their upward arc from the early and mid 2000's and a new manager will push the U.S. to those new heights they dream of. The simple fact is that the Americans don't have the players to excel right now.
The U.S. team is without a single average centerback, let alone two. The left back position is still a mess, even if two matches of Eric Lichaj will convince some otherwise. On top of all that, Brian McBride remains the last halfway decent striker that the U.S. has had. Meanwhile, the supposed strength of the team, midfield, is filled with many good players, but nobody exceptional and the team's two stars, Clint Dempsey and Landon Donovan, are nearing 30 years old. The U.S. team is struggling right now because of deficiencies in the player pool, something that will be true no matter the manager.
Bradley has had his issues. He's had many issues, but he is still the manager that led the U.S. to the 2007 Gold Cup title, first place in CONCACAF World Cup qualifying, second place in the 2009 Confederations Cup and won his group at the 2010 World Cup. Contrary to delusional, but somehow popular belief, not just anybody can do a better job than him. The player pool will not allow for it and the emergence of the best Mexico team in at least a decade will only make things tougher for the Americans.
Firing Bradley to bring in a top-notch head coach could do a lot for the U.S. It wouldn't improve the player pool and it wouldn't turn the U.S. into a World Cup contender, but it could lift the team. Firing Bradley to bring in Klinsmann, well it's all too predictable and disappointing. Klinsmann will have until June 8, 2012, the start of World Cup qualifying, to build his team, but the man who has yet to impress as a manager and is much more a big-time name than a big-time coach will have his work cut out for him. And when he's done, the U.S. fans will be yearning for the days when Klinsmann was just Gulati's love interest, not the man stalking the touchline.
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Very Good Points
Ive never really been a fan of klinsmen just due to his character and tactics. would say though that if they are planning for the future i would have no other coach., Just look at what his rules and playbook did for german soccer. They have a very young and top notch team due to his rules. He is a very good coach who plans for the future but i think we need to capatlize on dempsey up top and donovan who are both in their prime and can still play longer. Dempsey doesnt look like he will be stopping anytime soon. I loved bradley nfor what he did with a no namebunch of guys… Who was Onyewu before qualifiers three years ago? Bradley gave the USA hope.
by jdn8011 on Jul 28, 2011 7:06 PM EDT reply actions
Those players were coming through Germany academies before Klinsmann became NT coach.
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by Ben Schneider on Jul 29, 2011 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions
*German club academies
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by Ben Schneider on Jul 29, 2011 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions
which is why the first move should be to bring back the U23 guy the US just fired
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by Londonjoe on Jul 29, 2011 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Klinsmann isn't my first choice.
And I disagree that Gulati is going that way, mainly because if he was going to, he would’ve after the last WC. USSF won’t give up the authority Klinsie demands he be given.
But I think your analysis of Germany in 06 is the typical revisionism visited on him by the FC Hollywood crowd after his Bayern stint (where he was forced out before he could change the culture after being told he WOULD be given control).
Germany was coming off a shambles off a WC that was deemed subpar in 02, and a disastrous Euro 04. Klinsmann was brought in without the benefit of a qualifying campaign and had to change the culture, and bring youth, to a Germany side that had been deemed very “un-German” for quite some time.
Loew is given a lot of credit now. And he’s a fine coach. But Loew came in WITH Klinsie. And part of being a good top man is knowing who your staff should be and not having so much ego they can’t do their job. He also brought with him a lot of the sports psychology and physical training from his time in the US, and was ‘heavily’ criticized for that, until being proven right.
I would also say that saying Bradley is tactically superior is an assertion without evidence. Bradley has consistently shown an inability to adjust in-match, or adapt his team to new formations to match opposition or circumstances.
I’m not all-in on Klinsmann. But I don’t think he’s a “disaster.” And I think too many people have bought the Post-Bayern Kicker hit jobs that Beckenbauer and the FC Hollywood board wrote before they prematurely sent him packing.
by Shawn Gillogly on Jul 28, 2011 7:27 PM EDT reply actions
I kind of agree with this
Disaster is not the word I would use, but I wouldn’t chose Klinsman either.
Despite disagreeing with Bradley on multiple occasions about personnel decisions (seriously, how does anyone think Gooch can play defense…and how can you not see Spector’s quality?…among others) I think he got more fire from fans than he deserved. He was not by the book in a lot of respects, and I think he’s dealing with a US team that has decent talent, but certainly not elite. I’m not sure who my top choice would be right now though.
On another note, I think the US has a lot of good up and coming talent. Brek Shea looks like the real deal to me, and I think Teal Bunbury, Omar Gonzalez, Luis Gil, and Juan Agudelo are going to prove to be very good players. I’m not even close to sold on Tim Ream, but who knows maybe he’ll improve in the next few years. If only Olave of RSL wasn’t Columbian, that would be our true first amazing center back. Also, I think Lichaj def has some work to do, but could turn out to be an excellent back
by theraccoun on Jul 28, 2011 7:45 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't disagree that BB had a decent cycle as coach
The problem is “decent” is not sufficient to remain a National Team coach for a 2nd cycle. He did nothing to ‘wow’ anyone. Sure, we won the group. Thanks to a howler of a GK error and an amazing goal by LD. The Confed Cup run was 1 good match, offset by a host of debacles that made ‘reaching’ that Spain match a miracle.
BB never did anything to merit having another go around. Even with Arena in 02, he clearly exceeded expectations and defeated a pair of highly regarded sides and outplayed (and outcoached) Germany in the Quarterfinal. Yes, he fell apart in 06. But that just proves the point, 8 years is a LONG time to be a National Team manager.
by Shawn Gillogly on Jul 28, 2011 8:17 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Yep
It doesn’t happen often, but almost no coach given a second cycle exceeds or even equals the performance in their first cycle. Bob had to go if for no other reason that the way we were embarrassed in back to back Gold Cup finals.
I know the ‘11 final meant more than the ’09 in regards to a Confederations Cup berth, but I’m still upset about him throwing an inexperienced squad under the bus in the ‘09 Gold Cup. We hadn’t lost to Mexico in years on home soil and that was an absolute bloodletting. I don’t care if it wasn’t for a berth into a tournament and that our “A team” got better experience in the Copa America, that Gold Cup was for a trophy and you never go out weak against your main rival. Inexcusable.
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by Nico2.0 on Jul 29, 2011 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions
I think that's silly.
Who cares about national team rivalries. Set yourself up for the long haul, not one match.
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by MichaelProcton on Jul 29, 2011 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Agreed
However, the Confed Cup was at least three good matches. Yes we did nothing against Italy, but I think they treated the game as a revenge game against us for what happened in the 2006 World Cup where we provided the champs with the only blemish of that World Cup. We managed to manhandle Egypt and made it because Brazil crushed Italy. Then following the upset of Spain, we then basically gave it our all vs Brazil despite the loss.
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by Jessy S on Jul 29, 2011 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Jogi Loew
First off – Germany made it to the finals in ’02 but was one of the worst teams ever to do so. I think the German DFB was smart in cutting loose with the stale old philosophy before too much damage could occur.
If you can understand german – watch Deutschland – Ein Sommermärchen to get a great insight on Jurgen’s coaching style and what kind of relationship he had with his staff and players. It was actually flawless, and partially because his players respected him as a German soccer legend and he gave his coaches the opportunity to do the micromanaging. His job there was driven so much by inspiration that I’m not sure that can be replicated by the US team unless if the Americans see a greater purpose to his tenure the way the German team did. Also, he needs an awesome staff to support him – basically, he needs to discover the next Jogi Loew, which does not sound easy.
I’d support this as an investment in the future as long as US fans and the US Soccer Federation don’t do to him what Michigan did to Rich Rod – which is hamstring and undermine him from the very beginning. Because one thing we desperately need right now is for the US to have a serious youth movement going on – a golden generation like the one that Jurgen was able to sow the seeds for in Germany earlier in the decade.
by DCGunner on Jul 28, 2011 9:01 PM EDT reply actions 3 recs
Totally agree with you
Germany is a soccer crazed nation. Coaching Bayern Munich is just like being manager of the New York Yankees, head coach of Notre Dame Football, or Dallas Cowboys Head Coach.
However, Klinsmann isn’t a horrible coach. He had Bayern Munich in second place in a competitive league, but he was canned because the team was afraid that it would lose standing in the Champions League and would have to enter qualifying.
As for the World Cup, Germany finished third in a cup that was more competitive in 2006 than it was in 2002. Yes Germany finished second, but they were almost knocked out by the United States in the Quarterfinals.
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by Jessy S on Jul 29, 2011 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions
My pick was Bielsa
This move comes 2-3 weeks too late for that pick to be a reality unfortunately
by kizzak on Jul 29, 2011 1:52 AM EDT reply actions
Yeah
That would be my top choice too
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by sami426 on Jul 29, 2011 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm not necessarily a huge supporter of Klinsmann...
…but a change needed to made. We certainly could do a lot worse.
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by Nico2.0 on Jul 29, 2011 11:24 AM EDT reply actions 2 recs
You really should address Jurgen's revamp of the German youth system
Taking your main point that the player pool is the problem then having a coach that’s done a successful restructuring of a national youth system is a positive and should be mentioned. I’ve yet to hear anything negative about his revamping of the German youth system. It should be something you address in the article at least.
by Dizzo on Jul 29, 2011 11:45 AM EDT reply actions 2 recs
And that required a miracle and some incredibly shit football by England to win the group (with a 1-0-2 record, amazing!) over two teams that are no better than the teams that you bemoan as terrible that Klinsmann’s Germany side creamed to get through to the group stage. The US was a better team than Ghana in the Round of 16 and Bob Bradley blew that game. Had the US won would you be complaining about how that was ‘hardly a win of epic proportions’?
Funny how whenever a Bob Bradley team managed to miraculously win anything (and the two biggest wins of the Bradley era can indeed be considered ‘miraculous’) it’s all his doing yet it was all the players, the fans, ANYONE but Klinsmann who gets credit for his works in 2006.
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by UZ on Jul 29, 2011 12:34 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Munich finished 2nd in 2009, lost out on the top spot by 2 points,
and were in third, still within reach of first when Klinsmann was fired. Hardly a tumble down the table like you describe.
Disappointing sure, but the Bundesliga always has more turnaround at the top then most other top European leagues.
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by DarthGreedo on Jul 29, 2011 2:58 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
If we’re going to parse Germany’s 2006 World Cup wins, which is fine, we should also note that it wasn’t just a run of the mill loss to Italy in the semis. It was an evenly matched, entertaining, tense game that Italy won by scoring in the 119th and 120th minutes before of course winning the final on penalties.
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by jksnake99 on Jul 30, 2011 10:52 PM EDT reply actions
Completely Missed it.
Ryan, you completely miss the point on the hiring. US Soccer’s still in development. it’s baffling how you don’t see that.
History must judge Jurgen differently. He will be regarded as the transition to success; the fulcrum in the teeter-totter that sent us into the upswing and condemned the old guard to the downswing. That’s why Klinsmann’s hire is important. His hiring will NOT translate into automatic victories: we’re not going to be Semi-Finalists at Brasil 2014 now that we have Jurgen. If anyone believes that, please stop reading.
I expect nothing spectacular from Klinsmann. He will likely duplicate Bradley’s record. US soccer is in mediocre shape. We have an aging team, young talent hasn’t been developed over the past 5-6 years and we still mire in this “yes MLS / no MLS quandary.” Klinsmann could possibly leave this job with a winning percentage of about .620, but that’s NOT why we’re hiring Klinsman.
What people need to understand is, Bradley was never the problem. The Problem is the federation itself and its President. Bob was Bob. There’s nothing complicated, genius, or impressive about him. You don’t hire a Bradley on potential of greatness.. He did what he has clearly done his entire coaching/playing career. He worked hard, ran his laps, put in his time, but built nothing and impressed no one along the way.
Bradley is the towel guy; he’s the 14th man on the Lakers’ bench; he’s Rudy on the Notre Dame scout team; he’s the guy who reads every single page of a book for a book report that’s due in class and then earns a C+ on it.
The change should’ve been Gulati, not just Bradley. There’s no real direction or idea of US soccer. There’s also no playing style cultivated across the men’s teams, there’s no adopted concept or purpose. Every country is characterized by style of play or approach to the game. We have none, because it’s not cultivated in our youth programs. Brazil, we know, will possess the ball and play its possession style of Jogo Bonito. The Dutch and Spanish have their respective names for their styles (Total Football and Tiki Taka for Spain/Barcelona). The English are going to play balls into space and look for crosses. Eastern Euros are going to counter-attack . Mexico is going to push guys forward out of the back and flood 4-6 guys into the attack.
What are we about? What do we do? Who are we? It is a great mystery that changes with every coach and every cup. The one who’s responsible for creating the soccer identity is actually Gulati. With that responsibility before him as he took the job back 12 years ago… he did what? He went and hired a hard worker who paid his dues over 25 yrs of USsoccer. All Gulati managed to accomplish by hiring Bradley in the first place was continue to ignore the crux of the problem. With this hire, though, I see the needed change.
I don’t want Jurgen for Xs and Os. If you heard him after the loss to Ghana in the World cup, you would know his importance. He had a 5 minute diatribe explaining who the US soccer player is and why he is so limited, how he is developed. He also outlined how he would have a different approach toward developing players. In that diatribe, he mentioned how the right players aren’t being developed, because the US soccer Fed ignores talent it deems undesirable.
You see, US Soccer is made up of youth club teams, weekend tournaments, MLS chiefs who have made Soccer an upper-middle class sport. Klinsman would begin the road to ending the US soccer Fed as we know it. Klinsman would be the beginning of the new Soccer Identity in the USA. This is why Klinsman is the only choice. He knows the American player. He’s an American, pretty much. He’s lived here in Orange county for 12 yrs. He sees the kids, sees the talent, knows the american experience, but above that, knows how to mold that into a World Class player .
US Soccer was faced with the decision to either hire internally or find a world class international coach. To hire internally would be to continue with Bradley. Anyone hired internally would be a continuation of a classic 25 yr US Soccer Fed vet, like Gulati and Bradley are. All of those names, Sigi Schmidt, Dominic Kinnear, Jason Kreis are products of the same US Federation that nurtured them. Those guys aren’t going to overturn that system? They come from it.
An international coach is not something we’re ready for right now. An international wouldn’t work here. A Guus Hidink or anyone like that would look at how we do things here and just be puzzled. But Jurgen has been part of it for a few years now and knows how to maneuver through the federation and change its approach. Right now, Klinsman is INVALUABLE. He will likely leave the position with an average mark. We may have greater disappointments under Jurgen, but he will be the central point that history will cite as the point when we finally changed for the better and laid the foundation for a winning future. That’s how we have to measure Klinsmann.
by Blue Bruin on Aug 1, 2011 11:16 AM EDT reply actions
Technical Director
Incidentally, my above post is founded on the belief that Gulati/US Soccer finally conceded and are going to make Jurgen the Technical Director of US Soccer and not just the National Team coach. For those that need the history, Jurgen was set to take the job back in 2007, but at the every last moment he backed out. There’s never been a full explanation from either Jurgen or Gulati, but there have been inferences to the reason. All inferences centered around how much control Jurgen would have. Jurgen believed it wasn’t enough, and therefore, didn’t take the job. Much of this centered around the 2007 Copa America where the USA sent a B team to the tourney, not our top team. The main reason for this was the US Soccer Fed who, as I wrote above, is largely run by MLS chiefs. MLS chiefs didn’t want to work with the MNT to give up players for that Copa America tourney. Without having player selection power and without being a Technical Director of US Soccer, Jurgen wasn’t about to take that job.
The US Soccer federation, knowing that if they gave up that kind of control to Jurgen he would come in and change things (i.e. would boot most of those guys from their posts), held back that kind of power.
FFWD to 2010, when pursuit #2 of Jurgen occurred. The story was the same. The point came down once again to control. This time, Klinsmann was pretty vocal about how the US Fed runs things and how that’s diametrically opposed to not only what he would do, but what breeds sustainable success.
We have to understand one thing: we must distinguish between having a school of soccer and having success. There are PLENTY of countries who are able to make a run or two in tourneys, but it comes down to properly building a school of soccer in one’s own country. Here’s what I mean. Hungary were dominant in the 50s and 60s, but no sustainable foundation was laid. Croatia, as you guys recall, were stellar from 1996 – 2004, but since they’ve gone downhill quickly. we won’t hear from them for a long time. Romania also fit in this mold. Who can forget Colombia who actually entered the world cup as favorites in 1994 with great soccer playing style, but failed to create a strong school of soccer. All of these countries are key examples of how a country can have a 10 yr stint featuring great players. The key, though, is to sustain that success so that every 6 yrs or so you’re fielding a team with a real shot at winning. This is what happens in Brazil, Argen, Spain, France, England, Germany. Most teams fail at creating sustainable soccer schools because they severely lack funds. It’s hard to set up a full soccer school in Hungary or Romania, that’s expensive stuff.
This is what Jurgen wants to do, but in order to do it, he MUST be the Technical Director of US Soccer, not just the National Team coach like Bob Bradley was. As Technical Director, Jurgen can select talent, he pick the coaches and the direction of US soccer at the youth levels. He can focus on where to recruit talents and what player control he has.
This has been the tug-of-war that these two entities have played for the last 5 years. In today’s press conference, it will be incredibly interesting to know who gave in. Jurgen is the coach. That is terrific. But what happened? Who blinked first? Who conceded? Who turned away and lost the chicken duel? The way I see it, Jurgen won this joust, but we won’t know for sure until today’s press conference. I hope that the first question asked today is, WHY did you take the Job finally? Then a follow up question saying, will you be the Technical Director of US soccer, or just the head coach?
Very, VERY key question still left to be answered. I severely doubt Jurgen took the job without the control he wanted. There was no incentive for him to do so. There was nothing for Jurgen to gain taking the job just as head coach. I think he’s the new technical director, which will then validate all of what I’ve written above.
Ryan, please stay closer to USA soccer than you’ve been. It’s a shame to have to read these shallow articles when we could be discussing the real stuff.
by Blue Bruin on Aug 1, 2011 12:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Cool story bro
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