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Because of #58, I became a fan of this team. You are missed Derrick. I love the Chiefs til this day because of you!
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Mr. Pioli and AP fans - Meet Tank Carder
by 58 was my friend on Apr 21, 2012 3:21 PM EDT
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4th Round maybe? Scott, you know he can be a great one -- would be it be far fetch for you to grab him late 3rd? You guys be the judge. As for me, I love for him to be a Kansas City Chiefs so bad! I see him as a Zach Thomas kind of player. Always have a nose for the football. For those who still think his size will not be good at the next level - what about London Fletcher? Zach Thomas? Derrick Brooks? Keith Bulluck?
WalterFootball Draft Diary of Tank Carder
What I like about this kid is his pure love for the game of football and the tenacity he brings to the field… ALSO doesn’t hurt when he’s got THAT MOTOR like Tamba… never stops til the whistle blows. This guy have had to overcome major adversity at a young age. He possesses very high football IQ as well.
More videos of Tank after the jump.
Why David Wilson is my ROY?
by 58 was my friend on Mar 18, 2012 3:46 AM EDT
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If KC don't end up getting Trent Richardson, Pioli could consider try drafting him late 1st RD by trading out of the 11th pick and picking up a late 1st RD plus possibly adding a late-2nd RD pick (giving KC two 2nd round picks. Depends where he is projected to go in the draft. He may be an early 2nd RD. In my mind, I think he could be a steal late 1st or early 2nd RD. My definition of "a steal" here is about me clearly making a statement that I am 99% confident that Wilson could possibly be the Offensive Rookie of the Year. (for all you fantasy guys, draft him even if he doesn't end up a Chief, you will come back and thank me afterwards) If he is not, I am going to return here and eat my crow.
I have reasons to believe that David Wilson will be a Stud Running Back in the NFL. A MUST SEE - Check out this video of him pumping up his teammates in the lockerroom + highlights afterwards
This guy has great vision, driven, loves the game, loves to compete, tremendous balance, extremely quick and knows how to find the endzone.
Scouting Report:
Chiefs agreed to terms with Peyton Hillis
NFL.com: Like Montana, Manning reportedly could end up with the Chiefs
KCSP-AM reported Thursday that it's heard the Chiefs and Manning's agent, Tom Condon, have spoken twice about the Indianapolis Colts quarterback, and that the financials appear to be a "good fit" for the team, according to ProFootballTalk.com .
I Dreamed a Distance Future RG3
by 58 was my friend on Jan 5, 2012 1:01 PM EST
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I was going to go in detail about my dream but then... I figured it was too much work. So I am here sharing a glimpse of my dream visually
Whether or not this dream of mine becomes a reality? That's up to Scott. Or perhaps some of you may have ideas on what it'll take to make this a reality.
P.S. Please do not assume I would trade the farm for the chance to draft him. I merely sharing my dream here :)
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Trade JC to the Colts for their 1st Overall
by 58 was my friend on Dec 19, 2011 3:31 AM EST
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Yeah ok, I can't sleep and I'm stil a bit gaga over our awesome WIN and defeating the 13-0 Pack. I've read so much of hoopla from RAC city to retaining Bowe, Carr, signing Orton to a 3 year deal while we develop a young QB. Thus, I thought for a moment and was like... why not stir things up a bit. Let's trade our greatest asset and offensive weapon for a chance to acquire the 1st Overall Pick in 2012 draft? At least then, our thoughts of drafting this guy or that guy becomes a reality!
I know it sounds crazy and 99% of APers are gonna think I'm out of my mind. Let's say Pioli do offer up our 1st in 2012 and JC to the Colts for their 1st overall in 2012, would Bill Polian do it?
Before you guys think I'm high on something, I must confess that I do not dislike JC. As a matter of fact, I love the guy to death, love watching him play very much and thinks mighty highly of what he has been to the team and what he is. But he alone can't take us to the SB. So hear me out after the jump...and then you can get mad and scream at me.
Luck or Barkley: Who Looks Better In A Chiefs Uniform?
How Far Along Are We In Rebuilding?
by 58 was my friend on Sep 12, 2011 9:22 PM EDT
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I took a look back at the beginning of Carl Peterson and Marty Shottenheimer's era. Using the first 3 years of their era and compared it to the first 3 years of the Scott Pioli and Todd Haley era. (though the 3rd season for this new regime isn't over but I'm merely looking at the starters and key contributors to the team's success)
In 1989, we all know Peterson had the 4th overall pick and he picked up the player that would forever changed our Kansas City Chiefs - #58. After the break I have a comparison of the first 3 years of each regime's draft picks
Losing Starters to IR may be a good thing - NOT!!!
by 58 was my friend on Sep 12, 2011 7:11 PM EDT
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2 Down (Moeaki, Berry) - 5 more to go and I smell a SUPERBOWL baby! Didn't the Green Bay Packers loose 7 starters last year by Week 2 and they won the big game?
Green Bay Packers starters on IR in 2010 by week 2
Nick Barnett ILB
Morgan Burnett SS
Brandon Chillar ILB
Jermichael Finley TE
Ryan Grant RB
Justin Harrell DE
Mike Neal DE
Line for the Lions game
-8
-10
-9
A bit conservative won't you say. I think Lions would cover 3 TDs easy.
I am so angry - Let's revisit 2.7 tweet from 2008
by 58 was my friend on Sep 12, 2011 12:34 AM EDT
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Here's a clip from 2008, coming via L.J.'s Twitter.
Johnson tweeted the following comments about first-year coach Todd Haley after theSan Diego Chargers destroyed the Chiefs 37-7 on Sunday afternoon.
"My father played for the coach from "remember the titans". Our coach played golf. My father played for redskins briefly. Our coach. Nuthn."
Do we think he was speaking the truth? He may not have been the best behaving player we've come to know even though he gave us two humungous seasons of over 1,700 yards rushing. I'd say he at least told the truth and had the BALLS to stand up to Haley. Our current squad of the RIGHT 53, are finally Pioli's guys - in a way they are the YES MAN!. The last player with balls from the previous regime was let go - Brian Waters.
A Football Life: Bill Belichick - Its definitely DVR worthy!
by 58 was my friend on Aug 30, 2011 4:05 PM EDT
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A Football Life: Bill Belichick
If you guys want to know what's really behind a great individual and the making of a well respected head coach in the NFL - look no further. Great behind the scenes story about one of the greatest motivator and inspirational NFL coach in the league today. Todd Haley should learn something from this by just watching the show.
p/s We'd be a better coached team if Haley can pick up a 1/16 of what it's like to be a great coach / motivator / inspiration / true winner.
Tonight NFL Network segment STATE OF THE FRANCHISE - Kansas City Chiefs. 7 PM EST.
Who's Next? DJ56?
by 58 was my friend on Feb 8, 2010 8:40 PM EST
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Who is next?
What do these three players have in common?
All three players drafted by your Kansas City Chiefs. All three made the final roster as a rookie with the Chiefs. All three showed play making ability while playing with the Chiefs. All three were drafted as Linebackers. All three were not resigned by the Chiefs after their rookie contract expired.
And the most glaring similarity? They all were either starters or played a significant role for their next team and those respective teams also happen to be the last 3 consecutive Superbowl Champions
SB XLII - New York Giants
SB XLIII - Pittsburgh Steelers
SB XLIV - New Orleans Saints
Is this a trend? Maybe? Either way, you can agree or disagree with my theory. As I looked into KC’s draft the past 10 years, there weren’t many LB drafted. The fact remains that KC have not drafted too many players in the LB position the past 10 years. The ones drafted were not a bust in any way or form but KC elected to let them become free agents, signing with another team. Who will be the next ex-Chiefs draftee to land with a team to win a Superbowl? My theory is only looking at the players drafted by KC, not free agents nor 1st year players.
The remaining Chiefs still active either with KC or another team are Monty Beisel, Boomer Grigsby and Derrick Johnson. Eventhough Beisel played LB, he was drafted as DE. Beisel played in a Superbowl with the Arizona Cardinals. Grigsby is unique since he is now a converted FB. For that, I would exclude him in my theory. Now, this brings me to the conclusion that Derrick Johnson is the only active LB drafted by KC that haven’t won a ring and may one day win one. You see where I’m going with this? Question now will be if he wins Superbowl, will it be as Chiefs or not? With that said, I hope to god that Pioli resigns DJ.
Other interesting mention of Chiefs draftees that have had success after moving on and possibly one day win a ring wearing another uniform are listed below. Here are some of the defensive players that may not fall into my theory of (ex-linebackers drafted by KC)
S-Bernard Pollard (Texans starter) drafted by KC 2006 2nd RD 54 overall
DE-Jared Allen (Vikings starter) drafted by KC 2004 4th RD 126 overal
DE-Jimmy Wilkerson (Bucs starter) drafted by KC 2003 6th RD 189 overall
DL-TankTyler (Panthers) drafted by KC 2007 3rd RD 82 overall
DE-Turk McBride (Lions) drafted by KC 2007 2nd RD 54 overall
DE-Ryan Sims (Bucs starter) drafted by KC 2002 1st RD 6 overall
DL-Junior Siavii (Cowboys backup) drafted by KC 2nd RD 36 overall
Please Rec and we'll see how many Chiefs fans want DJ to return in 2010 and beyond
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You know why Vikes released Bobby Wade?
by 58 was my friend on Dec 6, 2009 4:33 PM EST
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Is Cassel worth $40 million?
by 58 was my friend on Dec 1, 2009 3:03 PM EST
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QB Matt Cassel and his passing numbers continue to open eyes for all the wrong reasons after 11 games. His 77.6 passer rating ranks No. 22 in the league and he ranks No. 20 or lower in every category except touchdown passes (tied-16th) and interceptions (tied-11th). His average gain of 5.93 yards ranks No. 29 among starting quarterbacks. Only Kerry Collins, Brady Quinn and JaMarcus Russell rank lower. (Yahoo! Sports)
Cassel and the Chiefs worked out a six-year deal that will pay him in excess of $10 million a season. The contract will keep Cassel with the Chiefs until 2014. The deal is for $63 million, with $28 million guaranteed. He's going to make $40.5 million in the first three years of his contract.
Here's my take on Matt after watching 11 games this season wearing #7:
Cassel's positives: Gutsy and seemingly a fighter, obviously not very injury prone, good leader, surprisingly mobile, throws well on the run, average accuracy on the short and itermediate routes.
Cassel's Negatives: Extremely tentative decision maker, holds on to the ball longer than most QB, average arm strength, real accuracy problems deep. One more thing is that - he's not showing much trust in his receivers (though that may be a Haley-thing for making the WR position a revolving door)
Any chance Pioli may draft a QB in 2010? I may not be giving up on Cassel necessarily by wanting to draft a QB but I like the QB crop coming in 2010 draft. Problem with Cassel's play this year is that we're all pointing fingers at the o-line but what if he performs the same with an upgraded o-line? I just hate the fact that if it takes more than 2 seasons to evaluate if Cassel's worth franchise money, it may cost the Chiefs a chance to dabble at a potential franchise QB in 2010. Or when we are convinced that we do need a franchise QB from the draft in 2011, the QB crop may not be as good?
I know it may pre-mature to think of drafting a QB since we need much more such as O-line, NT, FB, S, WR, TE and a viable RB that could spell Charles if not be the starter. The good thing is - at the beginning of this season I thought that our LBs were the weakest, but I like what Mays, Studebaker, Hali, Demorio and Belcher (though we know Javon can't cover TE's ie. Antonio Gates) have done.
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No Rushing TDs in 2009? Check this out
by 58 was my friend on Nov 4, 2009 1:14 PM EST
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It's 8 weeks into the season and no rushing TDs for Chiefs fans. I needed something to make me think otherwise so I decided to dig up some archive footage:
Since we don't have any rushing TDs this year, I found plenty in just one game in 2004. Here's highlight of your Kansas City Chiefs setting an NFL record for rushing TDs in one game back in 2004.
Enjoy die hards!
You think any team would have a chance to break this single game record?
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Let loose - Time for HUMOR
by 58 was my friend on Oct 26, 2009 7:41 PM EDT
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What do all these scores have in common?
NFL Total Access reported that never in the history of this game where there's 6 teams getting blown out by 28 points or more (4 TDs margin). Other than that fact , CLASS 1 here have share something in common the past two seasons. Drafting in the top 5. You know notice one more interesting fact? Both St Louis and KC were once coach by Dick Vermeil. As Vermeil leave - the team falls apart completely. I know its only 2 seasons St Louis and KC have drafted in the top 5, its looking pretty clear now that it may be 3 years. Is this the MO connection or simply taking the governors cup to new heights?
LMAO!!!
CLASS 1:
San Diego 37 Kansas City 7
Indianapolis 42 St. Louis 6
CLASS 2:
Green Bay 31 Browns 3
New York Jets 38 Oakland 0
CLASS 3:
New England 35 Tampa Bay 7
Cincinnati 45 Chicago 10
Go Ahead. Let Haley off and blame LJ for everything
by 58 was my friend on Oct 26, 2009 5:41 PM EDT
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Here are the current rushing average of featured running backs of their respective teams through Week 7 of the NFL season
Larry Johnson 2.7 yds - Team 1-6
Steve Jackson 4.4 yds - Team 0-7
Chris Johnson 6.3 yds - Team 0-6
Ronnie Brown 4.5 yds - Team 2-4
Brandon Jacobs 3.9 yds - Team 5-2
Michael Turner 3.4 yds - Team 4-2
Knowshown Moreno 3.8 yds - Team 6-0
Steve Slaton 3.1 yds - Team 4-3
Joseph Addai 3.3 yds - Team 6-0
Asking why I posted and chose these backs? The difference between backs with great rushing average and backs with bad rushing average will not determined the success of their teams. Note here that every back in that list with less than 4.0 yds average with a winning record have something in common - multiple threats - its not just about the running back. Most of them have a good/great QB. (with exception to Denver) I also want to point out that the winning teams have a very good coach. Its evident with Den unless some may argue its the talent.
We all want to point the fingers at LJ for not producing thus not helping us win. What about the other RBs I have on the list with amazing rushing averages? What do they all have in common? Yes - no other offensive threat other than their RB. On top of that, they have a mediocre QB. At this point, you have to admit that Cassel is not worth the money given to him. Rams have Bulger, Fins have Henne, Titans have Collins but all three teams possess a "STUD" running back . Many have called out LJ for not being able to run and not having great averages this season. I wanted to show you guys that despite having a STUD RB, you will still suck. The fact that we are all so quick to find a scapegoat in LJ is simply because he screwed up in the past and pissed off more than his share of media.
Without LJ in the backfield each week, I can guarantee that KC will have ZERO chance of being competitive. ZERO! Defenses gameplan to stop LJ and without LJ, they will have to try and stop who? Succop?
Just One Solution - Chiefs fans
by 58 was my friend on Oct 26, 2009 1:59 AM EDT
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All this that everyone is feeling about their favorite team - The Kansas City Chiefs - leads me to ponder - why? Why are we feeling this way every Sunday after a game? Why has this been going on for 2 years? How could the team loose 9 consecutive home games?
Many of us blame the lack of talent, some say the players aren't playing up to expectations, a few wants the head coach fired. We are going through all of this emotions as a result of the constant disappointment and the lack of positive output when it matters - Gameday! A lot have been put into our minds, and our expectations of this organization. This continues to happen because we are somewhat led to believe things have changed or is changing for the better. All of this starts from the top. The organization puts out a great web site, it keeps all the fans informed and we all get insights about the team right when it happens. With Arrowhead Pride, we have enormous amount of info that we would not have had in years prior. This led me to be believe the KC Chiefs Football Club is very good at One Thing - thats PR! The public relations and marketing team of the KC Chiefs is awesome. It gets all of us excited almost every off-season, every training camp but only to have the actual events during the season let us down. So why aren't things getting better? I can't pinpoint it to one thing or another but I know all of us die-hard fans here share the same passion of wanting to see the red and gold regain the success of the 90's.
So, I have come to the conclusion that we desert Arrowhead. It's time to let the organization know we're paying for a product that we expect to feel good about - something that we can enjoy when we attend the games. We want to say this player or that player is our favorite Chief without having to defend him over another fans perception of our own favorite. How can this organization continue to market us a great product only to have nothing to show for it? Is this really the result of amazing marketing and PR efforts? or simply the organizations ploy in making more and more money as long as they can get fans believing and thus selling out season tickets, filling up luxury boxes.
You go out and buy a product because a great salesman sold you at the store and made you believe its worth every penny spend. When you take it home, it causes pain and chaos cuz it doesn't perform the way it was suppose to. It makes you feel like you were a victim of a very good sales presentation by the salesman. The next time you run into this same salesman and he makes another attempt to push an upgraded version of the product, would you buy again? A lot of KC fans did, we continue to renew season tickets, based on the success of this organization in the past? not now. During that span, how many times did KC draft in the top 5? We have been in the bottom of all of NFL for 2 consecutive years. Those spots use to belong to the likes of Bengals, Jets, Cardinals etc.
This is a pattern here. A pattern that's not very healthy. We as fans have a choice - start asking ourselves - What have they done for me lately??? A lot in the offseason, a lot in training camp but nothing in the regular season and nothing in January and YET we are blinded by paying for what was sold to us in the off-season - and led to believe that the product will not disappoint when regular season swings around.
Why do we buy-in into the hype and pay time after time only to have our hopes dwindle? So many fans are mad? Did someone put a gun in their head to purchase tickets? Show the organization that we want a good product not just great marketing. Signing the most high profile GM in Pioli was great marketing. He didn't come in and said we're REBUILDING - he claimed we want to win NOW thus we didn't draft a rookie QB or wait for 2010 draft to find a high profile rookie QB. We traded for a franchise QB and paid him millions (season ticket money from fans), he brought in veteran players Engram, Vrabel etc. because he is not rebuilding, he is going to win RIGHT NOW. Based on that fact, we are expecting better than 1-6, better than getting blown out at home by a division foe, better than losing to a division foe like OAK at HOME (where the QB completed 7 of 24 passes but engineered a winning drive when it mattered.)
I am saying that this season is not only bad, its humiliating and outright pathetic. As bad as any squad of the past was, we always competed against the Broncs, Raiders and Bolts. Just like during the Vermeil years when Oak was crappy, they'd played up to the rivalry and showed up. What happened today at home getting blown out by the Chargers is outright unacceptable. Jon Gruden puts it best " When I got to Oakland, the first thing I told the team was - if you can't even beat your own division foes - don't talk to me about post-season" and he added "how the heck can you change the culture when you loose to the Chiefs 12 consecutive games?" Now that made a permanent imprint in my mind. If Haley can't get the team to be ready and play at the highest level against a division foe, he is not our coach no matter what. If he can't beat the AFC West, he should not be around.
I come to this conclusion only to show you that only one person that can make that switch - Pioli. and Scott will only make that change if all of us fans let him know that we are not buying this crap any longer - vacate Arrowhead - let there be empty seats. Perhaps then, he will swallow his pride and drop that ego and fire a bad coach. As long as we buy into his - ploy, we will all continue to feel the pain every Sunday. If you second guess the point I'm trying to make here - make friend with a die-hard Cardinals or Bengals fan from the 90's. You'll see how making excuses for your HC and upper management will soon become a pattern that is downright impossible to turn around.
Marvin Harrison isn't done yet.
by 58 was my friend on Aug 18, 2009 2:48 PM EDT
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Could Don Pioli come to terms with a sure handed receiver like Harrison? I understand the Chiefs have some $$$ to go to meet the cap requirements for 2009. I have been wondering why Harrison hasn't signed on with any team? Is't the money issue? The ability to go to a team as a starter? Why hasn't teams taken a look at #88? I would think Pioli is constantly sieving through the wire for WR talent due to the teams' lacking in receiving talents. How much is Marvin looking to sign for 1 year? Is he looking for long term deal? That could be the reason teams aren't interested in him. Would the Chiefs consider him in a 2-year deal? We have the cap room for a pro bowl caliber receiver.
Adam Schefter Twit
Any Pro Bowlers in the horizon?
by 58 was my friend on Jun 25, 2009 2:25 AM EDT
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Note that I am only including players originally drafted by the Chiefs. No waivers, trades or free agents.
So I needed to get at least 75 words for this to be published. I got bored tonight and annoyed that I missed Cassel's interview with Rome. I got even more frustrated finding that the annoying Jim charges for listening to his podcasts. What a bunch of cr*&*^&^*.
Anyway, my gut feeling tells me that one of the players from this list will make the 2009 Pro Bowl.
Thigpen better than Cassel...? Part 2
by 58 was my friend on Jun 5, 2009 3:09 PM EDT
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I do not believe we should compare the two QB's, at least not now, not at this point of Thigpen's career. Here's my reason why we can't compare them at this stage. Also will explain why KC fans are so eager to compare them.
Thigpen never played in the 2008 Patriots offense. Cassel never played in 2008 Chiefs offense. So it's really hard to compare them in that aspect. But we do know that the 2008 Patriots team was by far a better TEAM than the 2008 Chiefs. Not just by win-loss. All around better leadership, coaching and talent.
Now, to just look at Thigpen, eventhough he was drafted in 2007, 2008 was essentially like his rookie season, being his first season with KC. What he had work with in Minnesota prior year is irrelevant. If we look at Thigpen as a rookie, then, lets compare him to some rookie from 1989, who happen to be a No. 1 overall pick as well. Yeah, you guessed it, HOFamer Troy Aikman. Despite having a WR named Irvin and a RB named Emmitt, his stats were a joke (Aikman stats in 1989, 1990). And if you look at the eventual superbowl champs, their record in 1989 and 1990 weren't all impressive going 1-15 in 1989 then 7-9 in 1990, Aikman was the highest ranked QB in getting sacked.
We will not be able to compare Thigpen to Cassel because Matt played under a much better overall team that's been established. Matt was not a rookie, despite playing and starting NFL games for the 1st time in his career. Matt's been under the same system and have had 3-4 years of training camp under his belt, on top of the tutor-ledge of a HOF Brady. On the other hand, Thigpen and the entire KC team was not established to begin with. Plus, Thigpen was like 3rd of 4th in KC's QB depth chart in 2008 training camp. All from a newly installed Gailey offense. Thigpen also never had mentoring from any HOF QB. You cannot even mention Croyle and Huard in the same breath with Brady when comparing leadership of veteran QB. Thigpen's upside is huge. You can see signs of his progress from game to game last year despite taking on a make-it-up as we go offense. And also the one unmeasureable side of an NFL QB - their poise in the pocket, and confidence in the huddle (Gonzo talked about that, he said Thiggy grew as the season went on and showed signs of true leadership in the huddle). We already know what we can get of Cassel. We'd have to wait and see how Thigpen improves over the course of the next 1-2 years. Let’s give Thigpen 2 seasons under this same system, whether or not he gets to start and play in games, it makes a difference if he's got it, he will show it when he's given the opportunity, when he's been under the same system. Though under the same system, Thigpen still lacks a mentoring from a veteran QB.
I know a lot of us feel that a veteran QB is a veteran as long as that player been in the league for more than a few years or started full seasons. Not at all. If you were a rookie and you had to sit behind and learn from say Huard. Would you doubt him if he told you to look for something in the defense and then you see him doing it but throws an INT? Or you think' it'll be easier to listen and believe a veteran QB like Brady, who's won games and broken records, won superbowls. See, when Brady says to Cassel...do this, look for that, don't do this - Cassel accepts. Even when something don't makes sense for Cassel, if its Brady saying it, he is less likely to doubt. Can you imagine Huard telling Thigpen and Thiggy doubts Huard? That's what I meant by mentoring and having the leadership of a veteran QB.
I'm not saying Thigpen will not develop into a franchise type QB without a veteran QB to mentor him but if he's got what it takes, he will eventually and it will take a few years in the NFL and learning the same offensive system. That's just a normal progression that he'll have to endure to get to the next level. KC fans are so impatient, WHY? That's because none of us can remember the last time KC went through painful years to attempt and develop their own QB. If you look back to when King Carl's era begin, we've never had a young QB. It started with Jaworski, DeBerg, Dave Krieg, Montana, Bono, Grbac and then Trent Green. It's unfortunate that we invested our attempt to develop a QB in some fragile goofhead like Croyle. So while waiting on him to develop, he kept getting INJ and thus makes us feel as if we have waited long enough for a QB. Gotta give Thigpen some time, its unfair to tag on Croyle's years to Thigpen. Because if we include 2006 and 2007 when we were trying to see what Croyle can do, those years gotta be thrown out, not to be added as KC's rebuilding years. Huard was merely a stop gap while we waited on Croyle. Now that we found Thigpen, we gotta be even more patient and not rush it. So with that said, I believe Cassel to be somewhat similar to the other borrowed QBs KC brought in in the past. Situation with Matt can be linked to Grbac’s in how KC’s GM and fans view it. Elvis was an understudy behind Steve Young but when he became a FA, niners decided to let him test free agency and then King Carl signed him. Elvis looked good while subbing for Steve Young, he showed arm strength, size and can make all those NFL throws. But Elvis is not Cassel. I believe we are all clear of that. Also there’s been a statement from Rich Gannon himself. Though the situations are similar Grbac/Gannon and Cassel/Thigpen, the players are not.
And after all of that, I am in no way saying that Cassel can be compared to Grbac. It’s not even close. I was merely trying to show and link how similar the situations were in the way KC acquired Grbac and Cassel. Those two QB’s caught the attention of KC’s GM after sitting on their team’s respective benches for 2-3 years under the mentoring of a HOF QB. Now with all of that said, I am a believer that Cassel will do well. But I am also the one to say that Thigpen will also do well. So heck with it, I am tired of starving all these years for not having depth at QB position, let alone having now two potential starters. This is an awesome problem to have. Montana had Young, Young had Garcia, Favre had Brunell and Hasselbeck, Brees had Rivers, Brady had Cassel, Bledsoe had Brady, Bledsoe had Romo, Grbac had Gannon. And if you think of it, with the NFL season going to 18 games season, it’s even a greater advantage to have more than one starting QB. You never know. And here’s a little bit of stuff I came across from Keyshawn Johnson
Keyshawn Johnson Thinks Matt Cassel Was a Coin Flip Away From Being USC Starter, Star
DEJA VU? Gannon vs Grbac
by 58 was my friend on Jun 1, 2009 12:27 AM EDT
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I had this thought after the Cassel trade 3 months ago - in my previous post
Original Gannon vs Grbac post (Cassel vs Thigpen?)
This better not become the second coming of high price QB over the more productive scrambling QB.
When I watched Thigpen play last year, all I did was think about good old Richie..underrated/overachiever that King Carl send packing cause he'd invested so much in the other king named Elvis.
Now that led me to wonder what will happen in 2009 if Cassel don't seem to impress during training camp, he gets the starting nod regardless, 2-3 games into the season, gets injured... there comes our own #4 (discounted over-achiever QB) and he goes on to lead Chiefs to some bizarre record like 7-2 and then Cassel comes back healthy ready to remove small timer Thigpen. Say the Chiefs are 10-4 at such period and Haley decides to stick with Thigpen and we go 11-5 and gets a wild card playoff spot.
TADAAAAAAAA!!!!!!! Deja Vu....Original Gannon vs Grbac post (Cassel vs Thigpen?)
Whitlock wrote a piece similar to my thoughts, only he did it in a different manner and 3 months afterwards
Cowher in 2010 still a possibility?
by 58 was my friend on May 13, 2009 3:03 PM EDT
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Rumors are starting to resurface about Cowher coming out of retirement.
Was it true that Pioli 1st choice was Cowher all along?
or was it Josh McDaniels?
If Haley and the Cards never made it to the SB, would he even been in the mix?
Now if KC's 2009 campaign go south say.. 3 or 4 win season and Cowher resurface as a coaching candidate, would Pioli pull the trigger and can Haley?
I have been watching all the recent press conference of Haley and then those with Haley and Pioli - there were few instances where Haley was in the middle of responding to questions, Pioli cut in and finish Todd's sentence - in a way correcting him. Haley does not look like a coach that's happy or genuinely enthusiastic about the drafts picks Pioli when speaking about them.
Has that thought cross your mind when watching Haley address the media?
Maybe I am reading too much into a HC's demeanor
DEJA Vu...Gannon vs Grbac
by 58 was my friend on Mar 1, 2009 2:34 PM EST
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This better not become the second coming of high price QB over the more productive scrambling QB.
When I watched Thigpen play last year, all I did was think about good old Richie..underrated/overachiever that King Carl send packing cause he'd invested so much in the other king named Elvis.
Now that led me to wonder what will happen in 2009 if Cassel don't seem to impress during training camp, he gets the starting nod regardless, 2-3 games into the season, gets injured... there comes our own #4 (discounted over-achiever QB) and he goes on to lead Chiefs to some bizarre record like 7-2 and then Cassel comes back healthy ready to remove small timer Thigpen. Say the Chiefs are 10-4 at such period and Haley decides to stick with Thigpen and we go 11-5 and gets a wild card playoff spot.
TADAAAAAAAA!!!!!!! Deja Vu.... Who will KC start in the first playoff game of this new regime???????? Say..Gailey loves Thigpen, Haley thinks Thigpen gives us the best shot to win, and KING PIOLI ego wants to insert his prize QB from New England.
Something to thinker over... I know some of you would differ that Thigpen wasn't all that impressive - remember guys, we're in a rebuilding mode last year, Herm said we're still a few solid players away from being competitive. I thought that if Tyler given a full training camp would have had a better chance of success. I knew no matter who become the next KC head coach, Chiefs would be 4-6 games better this year, at worst 8-8.
The success of 2009 will rely heavily on the 2-3 key components we plug in the defensive side. We solved 1 of those players with Vrabel -, we'd solved two if Dorsey emerges as he supposed to and we'd take care of the third we Curry falls to #3.
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DT 58 is finally IN the HOF
by 58 was my friend on Jan 31, 2009 2:56 PM EST
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All of these years, despite waiting on seeing my all-time favorite player inducted in the HOF, I have never watched any of the announcement on TV but for some odd reason, I had the TV on while I lounged in my bedroom. And naturally, I had the channel defaulting to NFL Network. So there it was, they were about to announce the Class of the 2009 HOF - How sweet it was to finally hear it - and the fact DT's name came right after they said Bruce Smith. I had a tear for that moment..
He was the sole reason I followed the NFL and became a Kansas City Chiefs fan while attending college at Central Missouri State, just 55 miles east of Arrowhead stadium.
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