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"The Charlotte Bobcats never should have happened. You know how I know this? Because Michael Jordan spent about 20 bucks in actual cash to buy them two years ago, that's how. If the Bobcats break their stadium lease and move somewhere else, they'd have to pay the city of Charlotte $150 million. So it would make no sense to move them, unless … you know … Jordan moves them to Chicago (where he still lives), plays in the United Center (where he has a giant statue), ropes Oprah into being a minority owner, then quickly becomes a well-run version of the Clippers to the Bulls' version of the Lakers.20 Not only would they cover the $150 million pretty quickly, but that would give the league six teams in the three biggest TV markets. And that's a bad thing … why?"

7 months ago White_hot_gordon_avatar_tiny Andrew7 60 comments

Update (6/2): That specific report was shot down by Howard himself. -ed.

"Magic center Dwight Howard spent the holiday weekend working on signing a two-year extension with the team, sources told Local 6 Sports Director David Pingalore late Monday.

Sources said the deal is all but signed by Howard."

9 months ago White_hot_gordon_avatar_tiny Andrew7 213 comments

The Heat’s offense is constructed for Thibodeau’s defense. As one longtime associate said, "When has Tom ever lost a series to a team running delay isolation in the playoffs? Even with the Rockets, they lost to the Utah Jazz. Ball movement can attack the defense, but not isolation. It doesn’t work."

9 months ago White_hot_gordon_avatar_tiny Andrew7 9 comments 1 recs

Bulls are the team with the highest chance of winning it all now, at 18.1% chance. I like those odds a lot better than 1.7%.

11 months ago White_hot_gordon_avatar_tiny Andrew7 84 comments 1 recs

Blog a Bull Bulls Need to Make Splash at the Draft

With the trade deadline gone and past, the Bulls are actually in a great position to make a splash at the draft this year.  Trading James Johnson was big, because it gave us another asset in the Miami pick, and also allows us to absorb more incoming salary.

The targets for the Bulls need to be a shooting guard who can shoot.  I know some are worried about a hard cap or whatever, but I'm not too concerned about that.  Stern isn't going to setup some kind of system that forces the Miami Thrice to breakup, old contracts would be grandfathered in if they moved to that type of system, or something or other that would prevent teams who smartly built around the current CBA to get screwed over.

The first target I would look at would be Ben Gordon.  I know the Bulls have some concerns over size in the backcourt, but size in the backcourt can't be too much of an issue if they went after O.J. Mayo.

O.J. Mayo - 6'3.25" with a standing reach of 8'3.5", and a wingspan of 6'6". 

Ben Gordon - 6'1" with a standing reach of 8'3", and a wingspan of 6'8.5".

So Mayo is taller, but he isn't really any longer than Gordon.  Gordon actually has the superior wingspan for defending while in a defensive stance, while Mayo has the very slight half inch edge over Gordon for standing reach , which impacts the players when contesting shots.  

For all intents and purporses regarding to basketball, the two guys are the same size.

With the current Pistons mess, they need to get stuff done, and moving Gordon seems a lot more likely than moving Rip Hamilton.  By the time the Piston's sort their current mess out, Gordon will be on the wrong side of 30, and while he takes care of himself, there's still a reasonable expectation that he might decline.

My offer for Gordon would be C.J. Watson and Kyle Korver, the Bulls 2011 Pick, Heat 2011 pick.

This would make Ronnie Brewer the guy who gets all the backup small forward minutes, while Gordon moves in as starter at shooting guard, and Brewer gets a share of minutes at shooting guard as well.  We would sign a new backup point guard during free agency.

The positives of Gordon is that him and Rose already have good chemistry playing together.  If anyone remembers Rose's rookie season, until we made the deadline trades, it was just Rose, Gordon, and a bunch of crap going to war every night.  I think defensively he will be fine.  He contests shots, and generally stays between his man and the basket.  I think he can do just as good as Keith Bogans currently does defensively, if not better.  And having Gordon out there guarding Dwyane Wade or Kobe Bryant at the end of a game doesn't invoke anywhere near the same fear in me as seeing Korver out there.

Gordon's having a decent year.  His scoring efficiency is higher than Rose's, Deng's, Brewer's, Bogan's, and Watson's, so he would come to the Bulls as the most efficient offensive player in the backcourt.  I would expect Gordon's scoring efficiency to sky rocket playing next to Rose too, and I think the attention Gordon garners on defense would help raise Rose's and Deng's scoring efficiencies while having no effect on the defense.

The other target I would look at is Kevin Martin.  The Rockets are stuck in NBA purgatory right now, and it makes sense for them to just blow the whole thing up and start rebuilding.  Maritn will come at a higher price than Gordon, because he is averaging 23.0 points a game, and his scoring efficiency is also much higher at 60.6 percent.  Martin would be a great fit on this team with his shooting, while at the same time being bigger than Gordon.  

My offer to the Rockets would be C.J. Watson, Keith Bogans, Taj Gibson, Omer Asik, the Bulls 2011 Pick, the Heat's 2011 pick, the Bulls 2012 pick, and the Bobcats 2012 pick.

We would be left with:

PG-Derrick Rose
SG-Kevin Martin/Ronnie Brewer
SF-Luol Deng/Kyle Korver/Ronnie Brewer
PF-Carlos Boozer
C- Joakim Noah/Kurt Thomas

This trade hurts us in something we have of value right now, which is our great defensive front court depth, but we're still keeping both of our starters, we would have dynamic depth on the perimeter with Brewer and Korver coming off the bench, and we would be adding one of the best scorers in basketball in Kevin Martin.

With this scenario, the Bulls need to pray that the MLE still exists in the new CBA, which I wouldn't be surprised if it still does.  Any frnachise that has recently been a contender knows the value of the MLE in building and maintaining a high level team.

I would send Thibodeau out to meet with Kendrick Perkins on the first day of free agency to try to convince him to come to Chicago.  I don't know if Thibodeau would be able to offer Perkins a starting job, as bringing Noah off the bench might be unpopular in Chicago, but Thibs could say, look we have you, Jo, Boozer as our main front court players, you will each get around 32 minutes a game.  Would Perkins be terribly unhappy about that scenario?  And I could see Noah being willing to be a good team player and coming off the bench for Perkins to start.  

The other guy is Greg Oden.  Blazers turned down a pretty decent package from the Nets...but still, that would give the Blazers a lot to think about if you extended a full boat MLE deal to Oden.

Otherwise we could sign stop gap big men like Nazr Mohmmad, Yao Ming, Nenad Krstic, Leon Powe, Aaron Gray, etc. to get by for front court depth.

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This could be good for the Bulls. Pistons will probably have to do something. Either fire the coach, or look at getting rid of some guys like McGrady or Rip through buyouts.

12 months ago White_hot_gordon_avatar_tiny Andrew7 7 comments

This has been trending on twitter today. It's the website for the movie "Space Jam" and it's been left untouched since 1996. It's a real web artifact.

And yes, I'm totally re-watching Space Jam on VHS right now.

about 1 year ago White_hot_gordon_avatar_tiny Andrew7 10 comments

"So we didn't actually like Cleveland. We hated Cleveland growing up. There's a lot of people in Cleveland we still hate to this day."

Lebron to GQ Magazine

Amazing him and Noah don't get along better.

over 1 year ago White_hot_gordon_avatar_tiny Andrew7 10 comments

"The idea behind MJ: Creating a Legend is that you're going to step into today's NBA with a rookie Michael Jordan," says Boenisch. "He is rated a 79 overall, which gives you plenty of room to improve, but he has all of the physical tools of Michael as a rookie -- the fast speed, the high jumping, the quickness -- but he lacks a lot of the shooting skills and the offensive and defensive awareness. So you're playing with a raw prospect who can do just about anything, but can't deliver in the clutch just yet.

"And the cool thing about this mode is that you're player-locked to Michael Jordan, so you're kind of re-creating the career and the legend of Michael Jordan."

Only this time, when gamers start the mode, they can choose to add Jordan to any team in the league. So whether you want to send him to Cleveland to replace LeBron or take him to Portland to right the wrong of the 1984 draft or make maybe the most insane video game team of all time by joining Jordan with the Heat, the choice is yours.

over 1 year ago White_hot_gordon_avatar_tiny Andrew7 13 comments 1 recs

Nothing too much, but it's nice to see that there is someone in the front office with some type of ability to not look like a complete fool amongst controversy.

Forman definitely messed up during the lead up to Gordon's free agency and during December with Del Negro, but he seems to be taking the right approach this time around.

almost 2 years ago White_hot_gordon_avatar_tiny Andrew7 11 comments

Check the sidebar. I haven't listened to it myself personally yet.

over 2 years ago White_hot_gordon_avatar_tiny Andrew7 0 comments

2k Sports has signed Derrick Rose to be the spokesman and cover athlete for their new Draft Combine game.

over 2 years ago White_hot_gordon_avatar_tiny Andrew7 26 comments

Good to know that Luol is good enough to win a game of 21 against a message boarder and his brother Ajou.

over 2 years ago White_hot_gordon_avatar_tiny Andrew7 2 comments

"t_time24 Is it me or everytime u have to drop 1, the closer u get to the toilet, the more it has to come out? LMAOabout 4 hours ago from TwitterFon "

over 2 years ago White_hot_gordon_avatar_tiny Andrew7 11 comments

Ben Gordon's last apperance at the United Center.

over 2 years ago White_hot_gordon_avatar_tiny Andrew7 8 comments

A site I made way back when last July, when contract negotiations were stalled out with both Luol and Ben.

Now is a more prevalent time then any, to show it off again.

Sign the guestbook on there.

over 2 years ago White_hot_gordon_avatar_tiny Andrew7 3 comments

Fred Pfeiffer of the Chicago Bullseye podcast interviewing Steve T. Gorches, Deputy Sports Editor of the Gary Post Tribune.

This is a must listen to podcast.

Part 1

"Vinny Johnson everytime he walked onto the court had a hall of fame guard next to him. He had either Isiah Thomas or Joe Dumars. The defense was never ever solely focused on Vinnie Johnson. I have quotes from 07 season from Scott Skiles talking about how lucky the Bulls are to have a guard double teamed 40 feet from the basket. He wasn't talking about Kirk Hinrich..."


Part 2

"I hate to tell you Steve, in this article, you're wrong all over the place."

almost 3 years ago White_hot_gordon_avatar_tiny Andrew7 3 comments

NEW YORK, Apr. 3, 2009 – The Chicago Bulls’ Derrick Rose and the Minnesota Timberwolves’ Kevin Love today were named the Eastern and Western Conference T-Mobile Rookies of the Month, respectively, for games played in March.

almost 3 years ago White_hot_gordon_avatar_tiny Andrew7 6 comments

Well...maybe not. But that's what Allen Iverson would do.

almost 3 years ago White_hot_gordon_avatar_tiny Andrew7 10 comments

I'd assume the Bulls will probably be a part of this whenever it happens.

If Ben Gordon leaves the Bulls this summer, I assume that team would be the opposition.

almost 3 years ago White_hot_gordon_avatar_tiny Andrew7 10 comments

"The athlete I admire most is Bill Russell. He has a championship ring for every finger. Today people always talk about the best players as the guys who score the most. Bill Russell was the ultimate player because he made everyone around him better. "

almost 3 years ago White_hot_gordon_avatar_tiny Andrew7 27 comments

Documentary "Four Square Miles of Glory" on Mount Vernon Basketball.

almost 3 years ago White_hot_gordon_avatar_tiny Andrew7 3 comments

Can you please shed some light on the rumor that Ben Gordon was trying to accept Bulls' offer last year past the deadline imposed by the Bulls and was denied? If that's true, does it mean that the Bulls never wanted to give him that contract? I would think that if you really want someone, a minor technicality wouldn't stop you.

Boris

Sam: More Ben. This is what happened, as I've heard it. Ben rejected $50 million for five years from the Bulls in 2007. Then he rejected $54 million for six years last summer. The negotiations were ugly and accusatory. Still, the Bulls came back to Ben again and said they have to move on and he had 48 hours to accept the offer. After all, this has been going on for over a year. Ben's agent waited the 48 hours, or whatever time period, and said no. OK, said the Bulls. Then just before the deadline, the agent came back and said Ben would accept. This gave the Bulls pause about what was going on and why and now right before the deadline. So they backed off and said they'd wait it out since they still could offer Ben the most. Ben was upset, though I don't see how the Bulls treated him unfairly.

almost 3 years ago White_hot_gordon_avatar_tiny Andrew7 24 comments

John Hollinger has a new stat, VA, Value Added, which determines how valuable a player is over a scrap heap player (think Linton Johnson III or Lindsey Hunter I).

Shocking who the best Bull was.

almost 3 years ago White_hot_gordon_avatar_tiny Andrew7 34 comments

Talk across the Bulls organization is that they definitely want to re-sign Gordon this summer and have been happy with his performance. But no one is sure whether it will happen, because the Bulls would almost certainly have to pay the NBA's luxury tax next season in order to keep him.

"People like to pick out Ben Gordon's flaws all the time, but the great majority of games I've coached against Ben, he has been tremendous," said a longtime NBA assistant coach. "I would agree that Ben is more valuable to the Bulls than most other teams."

Considering the apparent lack of competition, the Bulls should stand a good chance of re-signing Gordon with an offer similar to what he turned down last summer, roughly $54 million over six years.

So that could leave just $4 million-$5 million to spend on Gordon's first-year salary before the Bulls hit the luxury tax.

Of course, the reason the Bulls are so close to the tax threshold is because they spent $60 million to sign free agent Ben Wallace in 2006, a move that didn't pan out. Last year's decision to re-sign forward Luol Deng for $71 million doesn't look good in hindsight, either, since Deng has slumped and struggled with injuries for the second consecutive season.

An argument could be made that the Bulls shouldn't compound two mistakes by making a third and letting Gordon walk away for nothing. One piece of good news is the Bulls would have to pay the luxury tax for only one year, since they'll have $25 million in expiring contracts next year between Brad Miller, Tim Thomas and Jerome James.

Most every league observer felt Gordon and his agent, Raymond Brothers, should have agreed to terms last year. Gordon actually tried to accept the Bulls' offer last September after the team-imposed deadline had passed. The Bulls chose not to put it back on the table.

almost 3 years ago White_hot_gordon_avatar_tiny Andrew7 46 comments 5 recs

"I think it would be a tough situation for him to actually leave everything," Hughes said. "It's set up for him there, being from the area [and] taking that team as far as he's taken them. He's the face of the organization. He's the face of sports in that city. It would be tough."
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I'm sure that's exactly what the New York fans want to hear. Larry Hughes puts a damper on everything in life.

almost 3 years ago White_hot_gordon_avatar_tiny Andrew7 10 comments

This is pretty interesting. Would have Rip Hamilton, Michael Jordan, and Elton Brand have been a core that could have competed for an NBA championship in those years? I think they probably could have at the very least, been able to make it out of the East.

almost 3 years ago White_hot_gordon_avatar_tiny Andrew7 2 comments

"If guys were smart and professional, they'd understand the guys we brought in can help us win," Del Negro said. "That's what it's about—winning. It might alter somebody's minutes or somebody's shots. But that's not being a pro. It's about winning at this level and doing your job every night.

almost 3 years ago White_hot_gordon_avatar_tiny Andrew7 13 comments

Ben Gordon was named the CDW/Blackberry player of the month. He also received the honor for December.

almost 3 years ago White_hot_gordon_avatar_tiny Andrew7 16 comments