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Canis Hoopus Beasley's Game Link

Is here:  http://www.myfoxtwincities.com/generic/news/Michael-Beasley-Classic

 

Not sure how many more people have backed out, but I think that Wall, Boogie Cousins and Super Cool Beas will be the main attractions, while Wes and AR-15 will have some highlights.  Wayne Ellington, meantime, will also be there to do, well, I really have no idea.  His game it not the least bit suited for this type of game (I know, I know).

EDIT:  Just checked the official website and Wall is no longer listed, but Derrick Williams is.  We'll see.

EDIT2:  No Cousins or D-Will in attendance.  What a crapfest.

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Canis Hoopus Quick Straw Poll--Which Side Is More to Blame for the Lockout

Nothing really scientific here, and I know that the merits of each side can be argued at length (and we're getting there based on Oceanary's recent FanShot bumped to the fore), but I was just curious what the general consensus was here on CH.

My take is the players.  I won't get into my reasons again here--I just need some more text to meet the 75-word minimum.  Lousy minimum word count.

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Top officials for the N.B.A. and the players union will meet Sunday night in a final, and unexpected, attempt to resolve the lockout before regular-season games are lost, according to a person briefed on the meeting.

The meeting will involve the primary negotiators for each side — Commissioner David Stern and the deputy commissioner Adam Silver for the league, with the union represented by its president, Derek Fisher, and its executive director, Billy Hunter.

The season is scheduled to start Nov. 1., but Stern said last week that he would be forced to cancel the first two weeks of regular-season games on Monday if the sides did not have a breakthrough at the bargaining table. They have not met since then, with the N.B.A. insisting it will not move beyond the 50-50 split in league revenues that Stern proposed last Tuesday. The union rejected that stance, saying it would not resume talks with any preconditions.

The players have been earning 57 percent of basketball-related income and offered to reduce their share to an annual average of 53 percent, which would be a pay cut of at least $120 million a year. Dropping to 50-50 split would mean a pay cut of at least $280 million a year, notwithstanding any increase in league revenues.

It is not clear whether the league has moved off of its 50-50 proposal, or whether the union has softened its insistence on receiving 53 percent of league revenues in a new collective bargaining agreement. It is also possible that the sides are negotiating other, structural issues in an attempt to move forward.

Union officials said last week they wanted to restart talks on other issues, like the salary cap, but the precondition of a 50-50 split precluded a return to negotiating. Silver indicated Friday that the league was "prepared to continue negotiating over the many other issues that remain open" — like the salary-cap system, the luxury tax and the length of contracts.

The N.B.A. lost games in 1998-99, when a bitter lockout reduced the season to 50 games. The league did not open play until Feb. 6 that season.

8 months ago Tiny BVP 14 comments

Canis Hoopus How the NBAPA is mismanaging this lockout


So now that the NFLPA successfully utilized decertification of their union and the threat of an antitrust lawsuit to force the NFL owners to actually come to the table with good faith offers to end the lockout, the overriding question I have it this:  what the hell is the NBAPA doing?  

I was discussing the NBA lockout the other day with a friend and we were mentioning how one of the biggest things we've both noticed is that how neither side--the owners and the players' union--seems to have any interest whatsoever in keeping the dialogue going to attempt to avoid this lockout.  Instead, each side is playing chicken, confident that the other will blink first.  The players are puffing up their chests with threats of playing overseas, while the owners seem confident that the large mass of NBA players are so financially irresponsible that they'll cry uncle once they miss their first paycheck.

This whole thing is ridiculous and downright maddening to any NBA fan.  If the NBAPA really wants to get the owners' attention, the decertify the union already and file an antitrust lawsuit.  Now.  Don't sit around on your hands for another few months posturing in the media without taking any meaningful action.  If you want to start the season on time next year, then it's the least you can do.  

And while I'm semi-ranting, the actions of the owners and the NBAPA are only emblematic of a larger problem in our society, which has unfortunately taken over politics on a state and national level -- no one is able to reach a compromise in the name of the greater good.  Nope, it's all about being right come hell or high water, the costs be damned. It's really sickening.  

/end rant.

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Minnesota Timberwolves general manager David Kahn has decided to fire coach Kurt Rambis, league sources told Yahoo! Sports.

Kahn isn’t expected to announce the decision until after Thursday’s NBA draft, but he’s already begun collecting information on prospective replacements for Rambis, sources said.

Kahn met with Rambis last week and believes he has reached an impasse with the coach. The relationship between Kahn and Rambis deteriorated over the course of the past season, to the point where there’s been little communication between them.

Rambis has two years left on his original four-year contract. With the Timberwolves in the midst of a major rebuilding project, he went 32-132 as their coach, including a league-worst 17-65 this season.

Kahn told reporters he’d made the unusual request of asking Rambis to file a written report to him on changes Rambis would make if he returned as coach. He also said Rambis won’t attend the Timberwolves’ draft on Thursday night.

Kahn had wanted Rambis to become a better communicator with players. He also wanted him to design an offense away from the triangle and toward the open-court talents of rookie point guard Ricky Rubio. Rambis’ relationship with key young players, especially Kevin Love, had been frayed, at best.

SOURCE: http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=aw-wojnarowski_minnesota_firing_kurt_rambis_062211

11 months ago Tiny BVP 234 comments 7 recs

Minnesota has four trade scenarios on its board for the No. 2 pick. As of midday Wednesday, the Timberwolves now are leaning toward Arizona’s Derrick Williams over Kentucky’s Enes Kanter of Turkey. But the Wolves are actively listening to offers for No. 2. Phoenix and Washington are two teams that aren’t involved, but Houston, which owns pick No. 14, has proposed at least 10 different options for Minnesota's No. 2.

11 months ago Tiny BVP 21 comments

But if George Hill is available for a late lotto pick, let's make it happen.

11 months ago Tiny BVP 12 comments

Canis Hoopus Yet another trade idea

As I'm listening to Simmons' and Ford's 70-minute NBA Draft podcast, they are floating the idea that if Williams goes No. 1 to the Cavs, that the Wolves would trade the #2 to Utah for the #3 and the #12.  Taking this one step further, assuming this actually happened, why wouldn't we package the #12 and the #20 and move back up to the 8-10 range to grab Biyombo or Burks?  


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Canis Hoopus Taking the Fans' Temperature on Rambis.

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Kevin McHale making a good play on the ball. 

Just out of curiousity, I thought I'd put up a poll (or at least try to do so, since I've never done this before), to see just how many of us believe Rambis should get fired now versus those who see some redeeming value in him as the coach of this team.

Since I have to get to 75 words, here goes: blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah.

ED NOTE: I'm bumping this to the top as well as adding the following comment from BVP and a photo to the post:

It was sickening to watch the game and see Rambis glad-handing the Lakers players. During the extended delay when the refs were looking at the monitor for Bynum’s flagrant 2, Kurt called Luke over to the sideline to talk to him. Who else came in while Kurt and Luke were talking? None other than Derek Fisher, poking his head into the conversation. Now this is the player on an opponent trying to insert himself into a huddle between the coach and his point guard, presumably about game strategy (although that’s probably being charitable to Rambis). Any decent coach would tell the opponent to get the f*ck outta there. What did Rambis do, you might ask? He shared a laugh with good ol’ D Fish about the situation.

Fire Rambis right now. The fact that he defends Bynum for assaulting Beasley is just the icing on the cake. If I were a player on this team, I wouldn’t do a damn thing that Rambis told me to do, because he clearly doesn’t give a shit about the players or winning.

EDIT: Tom Ziller has more on the foul here

Poll
Should Kurt Rambis be immediately fired as the head coach of the Timberwolves?
Yes, there is no reason he should be allowed to poison this team and infuriate its fanbase any longer.
247 votes
No, he deserves more time (please explain why in the comments).
83 votes
Yes, but he'll likely get to stick around until at least the end of the season/potential lockout.
238 votes

568 votes | Poll has closed

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Derrick Favors' agent says he has no problem with Minnesota: "We won't be unhappy at all. Derrick is prepared to play for whoever takes him"

From DraftExpress.com http://www.draftexpress.com/twitter.php#ixzz0rbtWS67H
http://www.draftexpress.com

almost 2 years ago Tiny BVP 11 comments

What the hell is Givony doing? We take 5 centers with our 5 picks? No way in hell that happens.

almost 2 years ago Tiny BVP 9 comments

Canis Hoopus Ford mock v. 5.0



According to Chad Ford's latest mock draft, the Twolves take Wes at #4 and none other than Paul George at #16.  That's all I could glean from the postings at Real GM, since I lack Insider access on ESPN.

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Canis Hoopus What the hell is Zgoda doing?


Not that I think his analysis is all that insightful (I've seen enough Kahn-bashing on this site and plenty others already),  but he hasn't made a single draft-related tweet or blog post since May 23.  Isn't he paid (good?) money to cover the Timberwolves for the Strib?  What the hell is he doing?  I mean, he hasn't said a peep about player workouts, trade rumors, his "hunches", etc., etc.

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Canis Hoopus Comparing Combine Measurements


So I took a quick break from work to peek at the results of the measurements taken at the Draft Combine, as posted on DraftExpress.  I wanted to compare the purely physical elements of this year's lottery-bound big men with our current crop of big bodies as they were measured at the Draft Combine.  Curious?  Read below.

(ED NOTE: Full DX measurements can be found by clicking here.) 

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Canis Hoopus "The Barber Shop Window"



Okay, I've only been following this board for about 9 months so far (and props to Stop 'n' Pop and Wyn and all the other regular posters here, BTW), but is anyone able to give me some back story about the supposed rift between CH and TWolves Blog?  To read the post on that site from earlier today (title quoted above), you'd think that SnP burned the houses of the Twolves Blog fellas to the ground and many more unspeakable acts.  What gives?

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Canis Hoopus What could we get as the "third team" facilitator


This was recently posted on ESPN.com's rumor page, and it got me thinking about Just a Fan's post about how the Wolves are looking to play the role of third party facilitator:

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Canis Hoopus Lower Level Tickets to Grizzlies Game on Saturday...

Due to my employer's largesse (or just plain dumb luck), I have four extra lower level tickets to Saturday night's home game against the GrizzliesNo, I am not looking to sell these tickets.  Instead, I am looking to pay it forward to my fellow diehard Timberwolves fans here on Canis Hoopus.  "The catch," if you could call it that, is below the fold.

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Canis Hoopus Apparently the Clips are vying the become the Wolves of the West


The New Orleans Hornets quest to get under the luxury tax line will come to fruition today when Bobby Brown is traded to the Clippers today.

ESPN.com's Marc Stein broke the story last night. Stein also was first yesterday to report about the deal that sent Devin Brown to Chicago for Aaron Gray.


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