SB Nation User Blog: BooRad16

Scoop Jackson's Take on the Bulls

BooRad16 — Thu, 22 Oct 2009 19:04:10 -0000

Scoop Jackson's Take on the Bulls

At least I really put absolutely no stock into Scoop Jackson's actual analysis of really any team. He sounds like a Ben Gordon fan that is still pouting that he is gone. I will be honest I stopped reading after he said that Joakim Noah is primed for a "mini-Danny Granger type season."

Amare/Tyrus and Portland trade idea...

BooRad16 — Wed, 11 Feb 2009 09:28:24 -0000

Ok, its 330 am and i haven't been able to stop thinking about the bulls and what we need to do. I was at the game tonight so i may be a little buzzed still in my thinking. I may be sipping on the koolaid that tyrus has been offering the last few games but i would hate to lose him...hate it. I have invested so much energy and attention on him it would be too weird to picture him in another uniform. Ok well on to the point of this post....I want to do a 3 way trade that would involve not losing tyrus or noah but instead trading Deng as the centerpiece (im still obsessed with yaopau's post on busting the luol deng myth) CHI/POR/PHX.

Chicago

Outgoing: Cedric Simmons, Drew Gooden, Luol Deng, Kirk Hinrich

Incoming: Amare Stoudemire, Travis Outlaw, Leandro Barbosa

Portland

Outgoing: Nicolas Batum, Jerryd Bayless, Travis Outlaw, Raef LaFrentz

Incoming: Luol Deng, Kirk Hinrich

Phoenix

Outgoing: Amare Stoudemire, Leandro Barbosa

Incoming: Cedric Simmons, Drew Gooden, Nicolas Batum, Jerryd Bayless, Raef LaFrentz

OFFER 1st ROUND PICKS TO SWEETEN DEAL AS NECESSARY

Why the do it....

Chicago:

Get our stud in Amare, get a backup that offers a lot of similarities to Rose in Barbosa and can also help out at SG. Also, with the departure of Deng we have Outlaw coming in to make sure the nocioni doesn't get starter minutes. More positives, still have Hughes and Noc to dangle at the trade deadline, keep our young bigs in Tyrus and Noah. Solid 9 man rotation that will compete in the East for sure with potential for another deal.

PG: Rose,Barbosa

SG: Gordon, Barbosa, Thabo

SF: Outlaw, Thabo, Noc

PF: Amare, TT

C: Noah, Amare

Portland:

Get a starting SF and PG but at the expense of some younger players and expiring contracts. This gives them a great defensive and overall starting five but costs them some depth. Will need help from others to see if they and phoenix do the trade. They do keep Rudy, and Pryz to give them very solid back ups (channing frye as well?)

Phoenix:

Phoenix gets solid and exciting young players as well as incredible cap flexibility and all of this for a player who is out the door. They may get a better offer talent wise but it is hard to imagine they get more than simmons, gooden and lafrentzs contracts. Again, need input from others if this is enough for Phoenix. I think I would offer a 1st rounder top 5 protected from either portland or chicago (probably chicago)

This is the deal i would do AS A BULLS FAN. Would love to hear what other bulls fans think and especially blazers and suns fans.

A couple ideas for boozer

BooRad16 — Fri, 09 Jan 2009 02:54:10 -0000

I think Boozer is the player we need to target. He helps us both short-term and long-term and provides us with a legitimate PF who can score and is a go-to guy.

Heres why we get him: 1) theyre scared of losing him for nothing after the season and 2) they have Paul Millsap ahead of him (i think rightly so, kid will continue to improve big time) and they will not be able to afford both of them with the contracts they have.

Now I think we have 2 roads to go about getting him and I feel that they are both attractive for Bulls fans and hopefully Jazz fans (obviously I'm looking at this from more of a Bulls angle but trying to see what they want too). We can either try to work out a swap of BG and Boozer or work out a trade with Deng and Boozer as principles.

The BG swap is a little complicated because BG will have to agree to any trade, but I am pretty sure Utah is one team that has been interested in him and maybe Bens best chance at a long-term contract, so maybe we can convince him that it is in his best interest to go there for an audition and EARN himself a contract, is that such a strange concept? In reality though, due to his BYC rights it will be tough to work out a deal AND for him to agree to it because his bird rights are reset this summer. I think our best bet is to try a sign and trade with BG this summer.

Ok, now it looks like our best option is to work a 3 for 3 swap with Utah. My personal favorite is Deng, Noah and Noc for Boozer, Harpring and Koustos.

Bulls-Utah Trade 1

This seems to work on our end, and we get rid of Nocioni which is clearly addition by subtraction for this bulls team. What we need to decide is whether or not Noah and Nocioni are Sloan's type of players. I'm hoping he sees them as talented enough to take a chance and to take back Deng in return for someone they might lose for nothing. Also, does this create a logjam at the 3 with kirilenko, Deng, and Noc?

Bulls-Utah Trade 2

This one may work better for both sides. Obviously Boozer and Deng are the principles, but I feel that Gooden and Thabo give Utah some good pieces, and Ruffin makes it work salary wise. We get back Boozer, and Korver who is a great shooter to park outside for Rose to have another option to pass to. Koustos is filler but has been surprisingly productive in limited minutes. This is my favorite option with the Jazz.

Thoughts? Do any of these really work? I was initially trying to find a way to move nocioni but I think that might have to happen in a different trade with a contender. Deng is expendable, and if you disagree just go back to YaoPau's piece on busting the Luol Deng myth.