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This post links to minorleagueball where I found out about this, but the video is available here.

I have not seen the entire game so I may be missing context, but it seems pretty clear to me that Lawrie is in the wrong. The ump _might_ have been trying to show him up, but it's not clear that it was an absolutely awful call to me. Nonetheless, this is the first time I've seen an incident like this, and the thoughts on both sides were interesting to me.

15 days ago Burger_tiny BurgherKing 12 comments

Bucs Dugout Guess The Score Game 7: Pirates at Giants


Since ChuckPirate isn't around today, I'm putting up the prediction thread for the day. As always, a brief description of the rules for posting your predictions:

[ A ] Please put your prediction in the title line which should begin in the format: Team1 Team1Score Team2 Team2Score

e.g. Pirates 5 Giants 0

[ B ] Please make the full prediction, instead of a “+1” to someone else whose prediction you agree with

[ C ] Don’t worry about minor spelling mistakes, like “Piartes” or “piratas”. We can handle those.

So, will Matt Cain be the guy a frustrated Pirates offense beats up on? I think so :)

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I saw this over at minorleagueball, where the fanshots are buried under. I didn't know of Stephen Gant, but some of the people here probably did. Regardless of his playing abilities (apparently projected as a first round pick in the 2012 draft), this is shocking news. As someone who saw similar incidents while in college, my sincere condolences to his family, and may they find the strength to deal with this.

about 1 month ago Burger_tiny BurgherKing 4 comments

I enjoyed this article, and it seems there's a good bit of depth in the catching department with all of those guys potentially going in the top 5 rounds. We should consider Pete O'Brien, Dane Phillips and Kevin Plawecki with the pick we got for Doumit, if not earlier. I don't know much about the college scene though, so I have no idea on how good the competition is for these guys.

2 months ago Burger_tiny BurgherKing 0 comments

Bucs Dugout Statistics: Available, accessible or required

This is something I've been thinking about writing to find out what this community thinks of these issues in general. In recent times, we've been bombarded by a plethora of advanced statistics, and it's safe to say most of us understand only a small portion of it. That's still fine though, since the marginal benefit of being able to understand the nitty gritties of SIERA over FIP/xFIP may not be worth it, for back-of-the-envelope calculations. However, there have been times when I did want to look at SIERA, and I realized I didn't know where to find it. Of course, a web search solved that, and I realized that Fangraphs carries this information in the batted ball data portion-- I'd never had reason or occasion to scroll down there before, or I'd just not paid attention.

Nonetheless, this got me to thinking about whether there were other, potentially useful statistics that lay hidden where we never saw it, or whether there were things people would like to see that they never saw.

One of my gripes in the latter case is that I'd like to see WAR for pitchers based off of ERA. I understand the reason for using a defense-independent statistic for this, since we'd like to be able to understand value provided by the pitcher in isolation from his defense. Nonetheless, as a retrospective tool, I'd also like to see WAR based off ERA, since the measurement of defensive value is so shaky at present. I'd also like to know if using that correlates better to team win totals. In today's age, I wouldn't be at all surprised if such a study has already been done, and I'm simply unaware of it.

Finally, with respect to minor league stats, are there things that are currently not easily accessible, that any of you would like to see. To me, splits is a major issue, and since minorleaguesplits.com went offline, I don't know where to look for these anymore.

In general, feel free to post any interesting links to statistical information that may be under the radar currently, whether or not I covered or thought of it in my post above. In general, I wanted to know people's thoughts on:

[ A ] Major League stats -- are there things you'd like to see that aren't apparently available? (WAR off of ERA, in my case).... are there things you found not available on fangraphs/BBref that might be of interest?

[ B ] Minor leagues -- splits information? Other interesting statistics to track?

[ C ] Anything else that you'd like to share...

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Rooting for him, and not simply because he hails from the same country as me.

3 months ago Burger_tiny BurgherKing 8 comments

I was hoping to see some chat about what's going on in ST. I've seen a couple of people post about having seen this or that in random threads, and I was hoping we could pull in some discussion. The linked article is from Kristy Robinson's coverage of ST. I noticed the quote below, although it doesn't mean much in the scheme of things:

"Josh Harrison saw time at shortstop today, and both Nick Evans and Matt Hague were at third during batting practice. Also during BP, Hague hit back-to-back bombs out of the field to left. One of them actually hit the palm tree and a piece fall off."

3 months ago Burger_tiny BurgherKing 6 comments

He was one of those guys that had plenty of power but struck out too often to let others believe in his usefulness. That, of course, has no bearing on what happened in Rotterdam, which is shocking and a cruel reminder of the realities of the world.

6 months ago Burger_tiny BurgherKing 4 comments

Who has the same feeling in the stomach as I do?

(As you can tell from the MLBTR comments, this is apparently true for fans of all teams!)

7 months ago Burger_tiny BurgherKing 17 comments

I didn't know he was in the AFL, but he turned up in today's box score. Threw an inning, two groundouts, one strikeout, with 8 of 11 pitches for strikes. I suppose he was the replacement for Phil Irwin.

The Grossman-Cunningham team is getting shutout today through six at-bats, with one Cunning K. Grossman walked, of course.

7 months ago Burger_tiny BurgherKing 5 comments

Rendon not on the field yet for the Nats

A comment by a poster (gnarburger) from OBN's thread on the AFL: "The Nationals actually didn't let Rendon play in Instructs. He was there, but wasn't allowed to participate in games or even hit real pitching. He took infield and BP, but wasn't allowed into any real action." I don't know the source of his info, but it was interesting to read. (I couldn't post the OBN url as a link for some reason)

7 months ago Burger_tiny BurgherKing 5 comments

I just saw this-- anyone have any insights as to the reasons, or the implications?

Update (by Vlad): The country's general instability and broad anti-US sentiment are probably the main reasons. See here and here for more information.

9 months ago Burger_tiny BurgherKing 14 comments

Bucs Dugout Minor League Thread -- What's going on in SC?

EDITED to add (08.09): State College has actually been playing well as of late, and today's game is no exception. Here's some lines from today:

Pitching:

Michael Jefferson: 5IP | 4H | 2BB | 3K | 0R

Jordan Cooper: 3IP | 1H | 0BB | 4K | 2R | 0ER

Hitting:

Freeman: 2-4, 1K

Sosa: 1-4, double

Dickerson: 0-2, 1BB, 1HBP

Everyone except Freeman, Sosa, Gourley (who's having another awful season) has walked.

They've won 8 of their last 10

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Since today and tomorrow will be late start times, I thought it might be worth having a Fanpost to discuss the minors while we wait for the game to begin.

 

Today, so far:

 

Ryan Hafner has gone 5IP | 1H | 0BB | 0R | 4K, with the lone hit being a GB single to CF. Everyone in the SC lineup has a hit except Samuel Gonzalez, Dickerson has a double.

West Virginia just put up a 6 spot against Lakewood, and Mel Rojas Jr has a hit. Eliecer Navarro is pitching and has given up 3 runs so far. with 4K and 2BB in 4IP.

 

A Ramon Cabrera HR scored Chase D'Arnaud (rehabbing in bradenton) even as Nathan Baker has pitched to a line of 5IP | 1H | 1BB | 0R | 4K, and at his age, probably needs moved up.

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I always wanted to use that word, and I dont know if I'll ever get a better chance. Please read the linked article!

10 months ago Burger_tiny BurgherKing 6 comments 4 recs

If this was 2010, I'd have had no hesitation in saying David Purcey would never have made it past us. In any case, being in the AL, I m guessing he'll be claimed before he reaches us, saving Neal Huntington a dilemma.

10 months ago Burger_tiny BurgherKing 5 comments

Bucs Dugout My thoughts on the rest of the season

Way back, in early July, I made a set of predictions in a comment on how the rest of the season would likely play out. Given that the July games are gone, here's the rest of it:

August:

7 against Cubs and Pads: prediction 5-2
6 against Giants and brewers: prediction 2-4
17 (!!!) against Reds, Cards, Brewers, Astros: ????

Sept:

7 against Dodgers, Cubs and Astros: prediction 4-3
10 against Marlins, Cards, and Dodgers: prediction 5-5
9 against DBacks, Reds and Brewers: 3-6

I know there have been a lot of posts on how our season is on the line, and how the next stretch of games are the key ones, etc, but here's the stretch that I think is really going to determine the fate of the team-- the 7 games against the Cubs and the Padres. How the team rebounds from the beating they took (both physically and record wise) from the 10 games against Atlanta, Philly and STL will tell us a lot about this team. Their chances for contention are all but gone, and .500 is a realistic target at this point, but a big step-down from heady post-season contention aspirations. At the same time, they could easily have won 2 of the 7 games they lost in the last 3 series, and we'd be feeling very different.

The losses, however, are in the books, and the only way out is to put the Ws up. They won't get a better chance than the next 7 games, and to harbor any remote hopes of contention the team needs to go 5-2 or better.

If the above predictions hold overall, we are looking at a 73-72 record, with the 17 games against the Reds (3), Cards (7), Brewers (4) and Astros (3) in the balance, and we'll need to win 9 to finish with a winning record. I think we could do that, although if the team doesn't do well in the early part of the month, we could start to see a lot of players (Hanrahan, Lee, Ludwick, Veras, Resop) be talked about for August trades (I doubt Hanrahan clears waivers, but we should still be trying), and that can have an effect on the team down the stretch.

August should be, at least, somewhat interesting with the draft pick signing deadline coming up and Cole and Bell still up for grabs. Tim reports that the Pirates have signed 7th rounder Jake Burnette, though. And the Bucs will, hopefully, come up with a big effort with their 2011 season on the line.

EDIT: Curious to see where people now think this team will end based on their current record and upcoming schedule-- my prediction is 83-79.

Poll
What do you think will be the final win total of the 2011 Pittsburgh Pirates based on where they are now?
85 wins or more
18 votes
between 82 and 84 wins (both inclusive)
29 votes
81 wins
4 votes
between 77 and 80 wins (both inclusive)
23 votes
less than 77 wins
6 votes
exactly 57 wins
0 votes

80 votes | Poll has closed

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This would be a huge blow to the Pirates. In addition to there being 6 teams, 2 of which (STL and CHC) can sustain large budgets, and one well-stocked team (Reds) plus a currently well-built team (Brewers), the only inept team might get a top-notch GM.

I don't follow Rotoworld, and didn't feel like googling for it, so if someone has the original link, do post it.

11 months ago Burger_tiny BurgherKing 1 comment

Bucs Dugout Very very late minor league thread


I know its late, but I figured I might as well put one up, since there's nothing else going on. If this doesn't get buried under a plethora of trade idea posts, we can continue to use for MiL game discussions for the rest of the week.

The GCL Bucs played in the afternoon, with Yhonathan Barrios hitting a HR, that put his slash line at .375/.474/.604, in all of 48 ABs. Jonathan Schwind had a HR too, and Jodaneli Carvajal had a 3B. Carvajal and Barrios are all potential SS, along with Hanson, who I havent seen much the last week in the box score. Orlando Castro had a good start too, going 5 innings with 3K, and 3H, 0BB, 0R.

WV and Hagerstown are locked in a pitcher's duel, with Zac Fuesser going against AJ Cole. No score through 4, and both pitchers have 6K, 0BB!!!!

Bradenton going against Cardinals High A team, having beaten them in game 1 of a DH (Carlos Martinez was pitching), and lead 4-0 in the 4th

Altoona had a bad start from Colla, and Jordan Cooper imploded for State College.

Justin Wilson turned in 5 solid innings for Indy.

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The Bucs and Marlins continue to like each other's pitchers. This is hardly a big deal, although in the context of the season, I'm surprised they didn't keep Valdez around as an emergency long relief guy.

11 months ago Burger_tiny BurgherKing 2 comments

Ok, he also talks about the ASG, but I don't care quite as much about that, as I've mentioned before. I do, however, care deeply about both Andrew McCutchen's game and Joe Posnanski's writing.

I realize that the top 4-5 links in the Fanshots are already about Cutch missing the ASG, but I still decided to post this, since it should be a must-read for a Pirate fanbase that is already on a sugar-high.

11 months ago Burger_tiny BurgherKing 4 comments 1 recs

Bucs Dugout Comparing the NL Central contenders-- Position players

There was a nice post on BrewCrewBall comparing the strengths of the teams contending for the NL Central. That post is here. The author considered putting the Pirates in there, but didn't (which is a stance I can't help but agree with, even if my rose-colored glasses see a contender). However, it is a good job, and it provides us with a place where we can go check out the Bucs relative strengths and weaknesses, which made me decide to write a fanpost after quite a while.

Here's my breakdown of where the Pirates players slot into the rankings provided on that list:

C: Molina > Doumit > Lucroy > Hanigan

1B: Votto = Fielder > Replacement 1B/ Pujols >> Bucs

2B: Weeks > Phillips > Walker > Schumaker

3B: Rolen > Freese > Alvarez/D'Arnaud > Mcgehee

SS: Cedeno, Theriot, Janish > Betancourt

LF: Holliday, Braun > Gomes > Presley/Tabata

CF: McCutchen > Rasmus > Stubbs > Morgan/Gomez

RF: Bruce, Berkman > Hart > Bucs

Please note that I haven't included the exact rankings provided by the BCB guys-- the projections are my own, and are based only on what I think the projection will be for the rest of this year.

Also, does someone want to take a shot at doing the equivalent for SP? I found it very hard to decide how to rank the Bucs starters among themselves. We have, essentially, a bunch of #3-#5s who are easily bottom in the #1 starter, possibly above Arroyo for #2 starter, and our strength might be in the #4/#5 area.

However, the position player comparison was interesting to me, in that we weren't blown out by the other teams for the most part. What really hurts us, though, is that we don't have those big bats-- Fielder, Weeks and Braun are so significantly better than anyone we have that even a huge trade splash isn't going to get us there...

Still, if we stay in the NL Central race, it might be worth checking back to see if this list rearranges itself...

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So, the Pirates have gone out and made a minor league move to acquire the most important relief depth pitcher that one can have. Welcome back to the Bucs, Steven Jackson!

_sigh_

11 months ago Burger_tiny BurgherKing 5 comments

It appears the Rafael Soriano signing may not be what the Yanks expected. If Soriano ends up having season ending surgery, Hanrahan should be a very attractive option for them. Again, a trade to the Yanks needs to include one blue chip prospect, since it's unlikely to get multiple. Montero? Banuelos? Betances? Sanchez? It probably also needs to include a second lower level prospect-- suggestions? rosterbation?

about 1 year ago Burger_tiny BurgherKing 30 comments

Your Pittsburgh Pirates.

The article sort of glosses over things, and doesn't mention Jeff Karstens' fantastic work either, but the overall picture it paints is not very far from accurate.

about 1 year ago Burger_tiny BurgherKing 0 comments

A couple of nice catches to save the game for the white sox!

about 1 year ago Burger_tiny BurgherKing 2 comments

Bucs Dugout Bucs-Marlins o'flow

Wonder if a middle of the inning thread may turn the luck around?

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How long have we been waiting for this day? Too long, I suspect, because I doubt we pick him up. Although, if we do, it will likely cost JRod his roster spot.

Update: he's not on waivers, as pointed out in the comments, simply DFA-ed. I think there's a good chance he goes on waivers, though, eventually.

about 1 year ago Burger_tiny BurgherKing 27 comments