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Niners Nation What Should I Expect at Training Camp???

Dear Fellow NinerNation Followers,

 

I was lucky enough to get a ticket to the August 1st Training Camp practice at 4 pm (and I may also be going with my Dad and Brother on the 8th, because they nabbed tickets for the morning of the 8th). I haven't been to 49ers training camp in over a decade (Dad used to take us to watch at UOP every year as kids), so I have no idea what to expect. I'm hoping some of you have gone in recent years and can fill me in on some of the secrets. Here's what I want to know:

1) What should I expect to experience? Are there any special activities going on? Will we be sitting in bleachers, and how long will it last?

2) How early should I get there? If it starts at 8 am, should I show up at 7? Or at 3 for a 4 pm practice? Or is it pretty relaxed?

3) How easy is it to get autographs, and what should I bring? Do they provide programs that can be signed, or am I pretty much on my own to try to get autographs? Are there any tricks to getting the opportunity?

4) Can I bring a camera?

5) How insane is the crowd? My understanding is that about 1500 tickets were given out for each practice, meaning 3000 fans will be admitted. Am I correct in assuming that this is a rather meager-sized crowd for their facilities? As much as I find it frustrating that so few people will get to go, I'm kind of excited about the opportunity. Am I correct in assuming that there will be ample space?

Thanks for your comments. I look forward to discussing the training camp with you all.

Go Niners!!!

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Golden State Of Mind Future Starting 5: Curry, Ellis, Morrow, Randolph & Biendrins?

After reading a dozen articles about the tremendous play of the two Anthony's (Randolph and Morrow), I got to thinking about how much promise our young core has going forward. And, in turn, I got to thinking about how great (yes, I mean great, not just decent) our starting five could be after perhaps only two more seasons. Just imagine:

Starting Five - 2011/12 Season

PG - Stephen Curry (6'3", 21 yo)

SG - Monta Ellis (6'3", 23 yo)

SF - Anthony Morrow (6'6", 23 yo)

PF - Anthony Randolph (6'11", 20 yo)

C  - Andris Biedrins (7'0", 23 yo)

 

Three things jump to mind when I think about this potential unit:

1) All of these players were drafted (or in the case of Morrow, Rookie FA signed) by the Golden State organization, which is a rare feat for any team. The notion of having an entire starting 5 comprised of home-cooked players would be strangely satisfying, especially if they proved to be a playoff caliber team.

2) The average age of this group is exactly 22 years old. Assuming that they gel in the next two years, and the coach is willing to go with a young and tallented group, they would still only be an average of 24.5 years old in the 2011/12 season. Incredible! Barring any injury, salary, or happiness issues, they could conceivably play together for 8 to 10 years. That's special.

3) The potential FG% for this team is off the charts. Biedrins was third in the league this season at 57.8, and has been at the top of that category consistently for the last few years. Randolph has shown an excellent shooting touch this offseason, dominating in the Summer league. And unlike Biedrins, he can hit the mid-range jumper with some consistency. Morrow is among the best 3-point shooters in the league, leading all players in 3-pt% last season. That bodes well for a team that loves to jack up shots from outside. He's a pure shooter, and he's only going to get better at making decisions. Then of course there's Monta Ellis, who's propencity for blowing past defenders and getting to the hoop, coupled with his excellent mid-range game, has made him perhaps the best FG% shooting guard in the league. He shot 53.1% from the field in 2008, including over 60% in the month of February. And finally we have Stephen Curry who, although unproven, could turn out to be the best shooter of them all. He average 48.3% from the field during his dream season in 2008 at Davidson, and is heralded as an excellent deep-ball shooter who can score from anywhere on the court. As a complete starting 5, the potential offensive efficiency of this group makes me salivate.

 

So what do you think? Is this the starting 5 of the future for the Warriors? Is it something you look forward to? Or perhaps something you dread?

Poll
Is this the fture starting 5 for the Warriors, and if so, is that a good thing?
Yes. That's the 5 of the future, and I can't wait!
367 votes
Yup, that'll be the unit, but I'm not looking forward to it.
17 votes
Nope, there's no way all 5 of those guys will make it on the court together consistently. 'Tis a shame.
200 votes
No. Won't happen. Shouldn't happen. Can't happen. I need winners...
90 votes

674 votes | Poll has closed

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Golden State Of Mind Amare Deal Hinges on Contract Extension - Why He'd Be Crazy Not to Sign One

For what feels like an eternity (since the evening of the NBA draft June 25th, to be exact) Warriors fans have been jerked back and forth on a potential Amare Stoudemire trade deal with the Suns. As of today the deal has yet to gain legs, but many believe it's still on the table. What's taking so long, you ask? Some have argued that the deal fell through because Coach Don Nelson and the Warriors front office backed out on including Stephen Curry at the last moment. This theory, however, assumes that the Warriors were ready to make the deal even if Stoudemire declined to sign a contract extension. This is a HUGE assumption, and in my opinion disproves the above theory. Stoudermire_warriors_080313_300_medium

via www.nba.com

The importance of Amare's willingness to sign an extension should not be understated:

The Warriors would have to be FOOLS to pull the trigger on a trade that sends Brandon Wright and Andris Biedrins packing without securing the returned player beyond the end of this season. The notion that they would be willing to forgo this assurance is outright ludicrous.

So what's the holdup? Why hasn't Amare agreed to a contract extension? This is where it gets interesting. Amare has been quoted as saying "If I have to re-sign with a mediocre team, it will be here (with the Suns)", implying that he considers the Warriors to be a "mediocre team" despite the potential winning power of an Ellis-Curry backcourt tandem and a solid all-around roster that includes an emerging talent in Anthony Randolph and a tough veteran in Stephen Jackson. So, as it stands, Amare refuses to sign an extension if it means playing with the Warriors for the next 5-6 years. This much we know. The part I'm unclear on, and that has yet to be resolved, is what exactly Stoudemire THINKS his alternatives appear to be. In other words, WHAT ELSE IS OUT THERE FOR YOU, AMARE?

The answer to that question can probably be summed up in three words: PROBABLY NOT MUCH! At this point, we can probably assume that Warriors would be willing to extend Amare to a 6-year max-contract somewhere in the ball park of $100 to $120 million. Maybe not, but probably. There are very few teams in the league (other than the Warriors) that would be willing to sign such an extension (his current team being one of the many unwilling). However, if Amare were willing to sign that contract today (and consummate a trade with the Warriors) he would be guaranteeing himself a handsome income for the foreseeable future. On the other hand, if he waits until next offseason to get a new contract he could find himself waiting around for a big offer, and THERE'S A GOOD CHANCE THAT CONTRACT WOULD FALL SHORT OF WHAT HE CAN GET RIGHT NOW!

Mixed up in this whole drama is the fact that Stoudemire's current contract ends just before the famed free-agency Summer of 2010. What seems to elude Stoudemire is the logical assumption that the Salary Cap is due to fall dramatically at the same time the free-agency market is flooded with unprecidented talent. There will be a list of at least 5 names bigger than Amare's vying to grab the big dollars (LeBron, Wade, Bosh...), and he could end up waiting around for someone to come calling with a satisfactory offer. Thus, two things could happen:

1) He may end up having to take less money in a new long term contract, as many teams will be unwilling (or simply unable) to sign him to a max contract becasue of the lowered cap. We've already seen this happen so far this offseason, as the previous trend toward overpaying free-agents has dipped dramatically (i.e. Allen Iverson is about to sign for 25% or less than the amount he was paid last year!).

2) He may have to settle for signing with a "mediocre team" anyway. If the market works out unfavorably, the only teams with the cap space to sign him may be even more desperate (and unattractive) than the Warriors. In fact, I would assume that this is quite likely.

So, to sum things up, Amare's best chance to sign the biggest contract with the best team possible may very well be with the Warriors, right now! His alternative will almost certainly have to be the "wait-and-see" method, which could end up being a "wait-and-see-what-a-huge-mistake-I've-made" kind of decision. Whether or not you want to see this trade happen, I think it's safe to say that the ball is in Amare's court, and, whether he recognizes it or not, this one is a slam dunk

Poll
Is an extension with the Warriors Amare Stoudemire's best chance to get a big pay-day from a decent team?
Yes, he's running a risk of disappointment if he waits till next offseason.
294 votes
No, he'll get paid well next offseason, and he'll have his pick of the league.
91 votes

385 votes | Poll has closed

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