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Bucs Dugout Recap - Jim Callis of Baseball America on ESPN Pittsburgh Radio

I originally used this space to give everyone a heads-up of Jim Callis's appearance on ESPN Radio.  A few people asked for a recap, so I decided to edit the post and turn this into a recap.  This is purely from memory after the spot.


Thanks to ElDuce for adding a detail I missed.  I also added a detail I originally forgot to include, so thanks to myself.  My memory is so clutch.  I didn't really need to remember everything for the recap in the small-time comment section, but the FanPost body is the big leagues.  Great performance, brain!

1) Callis began by discussing the MLB roster.  He discussed the trades last year. He didn’t comment on whether Huntington did a good job with the trades, but instead said something like, “You can’t expect elite talent for mediocre talent. He got what he could."  

2) He was asked if the Pirates brought Tabata and Lincoln up too early. He said they obviously didn’t bring them up too late, since those guys won’t make the difference between making the playoffs and not. He can’t really say if they came up too early.

2) He talked about Taillon and Allie. He and the other Baseball America guys argued predraft about who had the best stuff. In his opinion, it is really close between Taillon and Allie. Taillon is more polished and has better command, but Callis said it wouldn’t be ridiculous to think Allie could go out there and someday  put up a performance like Strasburg’s last night (!). Allie has ridiculous raw potential.

Jim Callis loves Allie.

3) Will the Bucs sign these two guys? Callis says you don’t take Taillon #2 without knowing you can sign him. It will go down to the wire, but it will get done. He says Taillon is much more polished and has better stuff than Porcello.  He is similar to Beckett.  I believe Callis said to expect somewhere in the neighborhood of $7 million.

As far as Allie goes, he will be tougher. If he’d take $2 million, the Bucs will get it done. But Allie may want 4, 5 million. If so, it’s going to be much tougher.  Having the compensation pick in a deep draft next year is a nice consolation prize for the Bucs if Allie doesn't sign.

4) Was it a mistake to go so heavy on pitching? Callis said no. The Bucs took who they thought were the best guys available, and they drafted some very high-ceiling players. Taillon and Allie are two guys who can change your franchise, and the Bucs already have two, young elite hitters (Alvarez and Cutch), so that takes away from the worry

5) Is it risky taking high school players? Callis says this point is completely overblown. Talent is talent. He said Moneyball made people criticize high school picks too much. The book says taking Prince Fielder and Scott Kazmir would be crazy, but look how that worked out. Also, most college guys who come out with elite stuff were drafted as high schoolers but simply failed to reach a deal. Talent is the key.

6) When can we expect to see Taillon and Allie?  Callis said it wouldn't be crazy to see Taillon at age 21.  Allie will probably take more time, because he needs a lot more work on his control.

7) What about Lincoln? Callis liked him in high school and college. He’s a fierce competitor. He can be a good #3.

8) [From ElDuce] He thinks Huntington has done a pretty good job. He really likes that they pour money into the draft as that’s where they’re going to find talent. He said something like “I wish I had a nick for every time someone with another team complains about how Frank Coonelly used to lecture them on draft spending, now he spends more than anyone.”

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It's Insider Only, but the top 5 picks are available for free. Law's 05/31 mock had the Bucs taking Manny Machado. Today's has us taking Jameson Taillon.

almost 2 years ago Iron_maiden_3_tiny CptnAwesome 3 comments

Bucs Dugout Attendees of Bucs Dugout Gathering: Please Read ASAP!

I know this is the third or fourth FanPost devoted to this topic and I apologize for the clutter.  However, I don't want to screw this up.

I want to be sure I got everyone who said they will be there and included them on a group e-mail.  All of the members listed below should have received an email from me.  If not: Speak up now! Of course, if anyone else wants to come, it's not too late!

As previously mentioned, we are going to be in Section 328 along with several members of Pittsburgh Sports Tavern.  Tickets are $10 each.  Please send the money via PayPal to: Toasty [at] gmail (dot) com. [Update: Schide told me that if you use the "Personal" tab and send the money as a Gift or Payment Owed, PayPal won't take any fee.  PayPal took a little over 50 cents for each transaction so far, which I didn't care about, but if it saves 10 bucks, hey, I'll take it.]

I have the block reserved right now and  I'll probably buy them at the end of the day today. However, I'd like to get some of the money ASAP since I'm not exactly rich, and even $180 makes a big difference.

I have the following people listed as attending and have emailed them.  Again, please email me if I missed you or you did not receive an email from me.  Also, please make sure I got the ticket numbers correct.  I believe only Lighthouse is bringing someone.


Cocktailsfor2 (already has ticket)
Pghfan987 (on its way; PayPal issues)
WTM (paid)
IAPiratesFan (paid)
Kidspud (paid)
Traco Bucco
Winger31 (paid)
JR89
Lighthouse913 +1 (paid)

omar moreno (paid)
Uncle Nate (sending via mail)
GoldNeck + bucdaddy (paid)
Gorilla Killa (paid)
Vlad (paid)
Schide (paid)

 

[Periodically updating who has paid]

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Bucs Dugout Gene Collier Writes Column; I Needlessly Dissect


Gene Collier wrote a bad article about the Pirates
.  I decided to spend some time needlessly responding to it, Fire Joe Morgan Lite Lite Lite style.

Occasionally in summers past, this column has amused itself (if few others)

Writers should stop anthropomorphizing their columns. I hate when writers say "This space suggested….". Stop it. YOU suggested it.

with an exercise called the Backdraft, whereby rather than suggesting draft picks the Pirates might consider to improve the big league club, I'd backdraft players from the big league club for the same lofty purpose.

Oh. So this column is simply a list of players Collier thinks should be demoted. That idea, by itself, wouldn’t make for a very good column, so it has to be dressed up in a silly concept of a "backdraft," which already exists in the form of DFAs and waivers.

[Also, Collier doesn’t suggest who will replace these guys, but that is in no way important!]

Historians of the Backdraft (me)

My column exists independently of mine own hand!  I AM BUT ITS RECORD KEEPER AND EARTHLY CONDUIT.

remember that it was in the same week that the Pirates drafted Neil Walker six years ago that the first player ever selected in the Backdraft was none other than Randall Simon, not only an abysmal Pirate, but baseball's only known assailant of racing sausages.

It's hard to duplicate that kind of history,

It’s hard to duplicate what kind of history? It’s hard to duplicate the history of drafting Neil Walker and demoting Randall Simon in the same year? It’s hard to duplicate the history of drafting a player and then picking a player currently on the roster who will go on to assault a person dressed up in a sausage costume? What does the drafting of Neil Walker six years ago have to do with any of this? What does this sentence even mean?

Darn it, column! Learn to write intelligible paragraphs!

even with the coincidence of the arrival Tuesday of that same Neil Walker to the major league club for what many hope is an extended and decorated stay. Some would call that irony. They'd be incorrect.

How is it a coincidence? It's a coincidence Walker came up six years after you did the first "Backdraft"? Huh?

Furthermore, WHO WOULD CALL HIS PROMOTION IRONY? I demand names! What would be ironical about a high draft pick reaching the MLB level and succeeding? That doesn’t make any sense. You can’t just choose a word that no thinking person would ever use to describe a situation, then criticize them for using that word to describe the situation.  That’s called a strawman.

There’s absolutely zero connection between Neil Walker, Randall Simon, assaulting sausages, the possibility of Walker being successful, and this column. Did anyone bother to read this column before printing it?

Nevertheless, just looking at the draft board, you don't have to be Mel Kiper to know that this is the strongest Pirates Backdraft ever, what with so many dreadful players at so many positions that the column has been moved to late May.

No, no! The column has moved itself.  It had to move to create a "coincidence"!

Generally I've waited until at least the second week of June until proceeding in the public interest against sub-standard play.

YOU RUINED MY ANNUAL MOCK BACKDRAFT AWARD PICKS POOL! I thought I had another two weeks. I picked Ryan Doumit as my dark horse!

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For those of you who wonder what happened to former Buccos, Phil Dumatrait was sold to Seoul's LG Twins.

Dumatrait was pitching for Detroit's AAA club, the Toledo Mud Hens, and just recently pitched against Indianapolis.

about 2 years ago Iron_maiden_3_tiny CptnAwesome 2 comments

This popped up in one of my news feeds. Cornell player Jadd Schmeltzer noted the Pirates are one of the teams looking at him.

about 2 years ago Iron_maiden_3_tiny CptnAwesome 7 comments 1 recs

Bucs Dugout These Things I Believe

Reading the WTM essay recently linked by Charlie reminded me of an idea I had during the off-season. 

First, some backstory. I didn't start reading Bucs Dugout or any other Pirates blog until fairly recently.  I was pretty ambivalent about the Pirates during much of the 2000s.  I still loved the Pirates, but they were generally boring to watch and the management's moves largely infuriated me.  I had little hope for the future and the few times I did seek out Pirates commentary just cemented my gloomy outlook.  In short, it depressed me, and I avoided online sites.

That avoidance has created two problems for me.  One, I've missed out on a lot of great commentary and pieces from those days.  Two, it's made me tend to forget that as bad as things sometimes are now, the recent past was a lot worse.  It's easy to forget that, especially for people like me who deliberately avoided thinking deeply about it.

So, the idea I had...dramatically inserted after the jump!

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"All of this is a way of saying that the monotony of the Pirates' condition is such that really any discussion of their present roster is almost pointless; it is long past time to move this franchise. I feel for the Pirates fans; this is a venerable franchise, tracing its Pittsburgh roots back to 1882 and having played continuously in the same city in the National League since 1891. And I don't buy the idea that the game's economic structure is fundamentally broken; the Pirates and Royals are the only two teams that plainly can't be saved. Nor is contraction the answer, since the union won't allow it and the owners would just turn around and re-expand at the next available opportunity. No, the Pirates have to move on to a better market, and bid a fond, wistful farewell to a city that hasn't been able to support them for a very long time."

about 2 years ago Iron_maiden_3_tiny CptnAwesome 5 comments

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It's a slow news day, so I thought I'd share.

Nutting's so cheap he's already planning on trading Sanchez! =)

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"The 6-foot-1, 210-pound senior is widely regarded as the top senior catching prospect in Illinois -- and possibly, the Midwest -- by many scouts.
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'There's some people that have told him he's the best catcher in the 2010 class in the country, so that's a nice thing to hear,' said his father, Daren, who is also the head baseball coach at Granite City High.

The University of Louisville recruit is one of the hot names being bandied about as an early round pick in June's amateur draft, possibly in the first five rounds.

Scouts from the Arizona Diamondbacks, Houston Astros, Tampa Bay Rays, Los Angeles Dodgers, Philadelphia Phillies, Pittsburgh Pirates, Baltimore Orioles and St. Louis Cardinals have been in touch with DePew.

about 2 years ago Iron_maiden_3_tiny CptnAwesome 14 comments

I ran across this blog post about a new book that "celebrates the 1960 Pirates, their Mormon ace and how they influenced a young Catholic boy in Pittsburgh."

I particularly liked this bit, which I hadn't heard before:

"Law was hurt when teammates, celebrating their pennant win with beer and champagne on Sept. 25, 1960, tried to rip his shirt off on the team bus. Law resisted, in part because he was protective of his temple garment."

The injury forced him to pitch in pain during the World Series, which led to a torn rotator cuff.

There's some interesting glimpses in the story about the challenges and struggles Law faced.

about 2 years ago Iron_maiden_3_tiny CptnAwesome 2 comments

I saw this on BP a couple days ago and haven't seen it mentioned on here, so I thought I'd post a link.

On Saturday, September 5 (Buccos-Cardinals), Will Carroll and John Perrotto will be hosting an event near PNC at 5 PM. The posting indicates there will be some more guests, but they are unnamed as of this time.

The entry was posted on the Unfiltered section, so I assume non-BP subscribers are welcome. Go to the link for more details.

In case anyone was wondering--and I can't imagine you were, but what the heck--I'd love to go but I'll be out of town that entire weekend.

almost 3 years ago Iron_maiden_3_tiny CptnAwesome 1 comment

Sano's offer is officially withdrawn, according to this article on MLB.com:

"At this point, the Pirates' offer to Sano is no longer on the table, with both sides offering different reasons as to why. Sano's agent, Plummer, never took the offer seriously since he had specifically requested that interested parties wait. The Pirates say the offer always had a deadline attached and when the investigation went on longer than expected, time expired. That, coupled with Plummer's desire to wait for the process to run its course, meant the offer was pulled off the table."

almost 3 years ago Iron_maiden_3_tiny CptnAwesome 4 comments

Nope, John isn't reflecting on the past, when this trade was offered to Dave Littlefield. He says there are rumors

I read Toronto is looking to get rid of either Rios or Wells because of their contracts. If true, I can't imagine the Jays would be willing to kick in on salary, even if Rios were a good fit for the Bucs.

almost 3 years ago Iron_maiden_3_tiny CptnAwesome 0 comments

Bucs Dugout Some comments on Dejan's 07/09/09 chat transcript


Dejan hosted a chat today. I've seen comments on here about whether Dejan sticks to his refrain that he doesn't editorialize, so I thought I'd pick out some comments in the chat to illustrate how I think he deviated from that approach today.

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Bucs Dugout Lastings Milledge and baseball culture

In Dejan Kovacevic's July 07 story about Lastings Milledge, Dejan discusses how Milledge has a reputation for rankling veterans in his previous stints.  Dejan dropped this brief anecdote:

 

The catch, as [Milledge] readily conceded, is that he hardly has been one to subscribe to standard baseball culture, a la Doug Mientkiewicz last summer correcting one of the Pirates' youngsters on how to set down his batting helmet.


I don't recall that incident. Anyone have a link or could give me an explanation? I'd ask on the PBC blog comments but that would require me to (1) subject myself to that cesspool, and (2) risk incurring the wrath of yinzers by implicitly questioning Dirty Doug. Maybe this explains why Doug got into a shouting match with Randy Johnson: Randy probably didn't show proper reverence to the rubber.

I'd really like to know why proper batting helmet placement technique is considered such a vital part of clubhouse chemistry and baseball culture.  I never played baseball beyond Little League--I was terrible--but I've never heard of that. Am I simply ignorant on this point?

Beyond that specific issue, how important is all this stuff? I understand the idea that rookies should know their place and be humble and all that, but this seems silly. Milledge could eat ice cream out of his batting helmet like it was a Dairy Queen sundae for all I care, so long as he hits well. 


If Milledge is blatantly disrespectful to his teammates that's one thing, but most of what I've read seems more like the batting helmet example.  In discussing the Pirates roster Milledge comments, "You're not going to have guys looking down on you because of how many years you have. Everybody's pretty much at that same level, on the same page, and I'm looking forward to it." If I were Milledge, I too would be ticked off if some mediocre veteran looks down on me and tries to assert his dominance clubhouse by telling me I had to follow his ways of doing things.




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