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The "This Is Why I'm Not A GM" Mock Draft

D-Ranged1 — Tue, 19 Feb 2013 21:13:23 -0000

After much deliberation, I've finally decided to do it. It might be crazy but this is my mock, and we're going to do things my way. I've considered taking S Kenny Vaccaro with the 14th overall pick... I've considered WR Cordarrelle Patterson with the same pick as well... And hedging my bets on a falling DT Star Lotututeletulelu-Lotulelei could've been the answer, or following the crowd with the "other" DT's Sheldon Richardson or Sharrif Flloyd. But... I can't do that.

See, here's why: There are a lot of talented safeties in this class, so that pretty much kills Kenny at #14. A wide receiver would be an excellent luxury to walk away with at #14 but what about the positions that we actually need? It seems too high of a cost to leave larger holes elsewhere. As far as the defensive tackles go? First, I don't really see Lotulelei falling all the way to us and with the remaining guys, how much good are they really going to do us? We had a productive defensive line last year even with decent play from our tackles. Is plugging a rookie in really going to make so much of a difference that it's worth our first round pick? I've decided that, at least for my mock, if he's not going to dominate, he's not worth taking in the first half of the first round.

So, who does that leave? Who do I have my eye on with our first pick? Which player am I expecting to live up to the term "dominant"? Without further ado, I present the first round...

Round 1: Trade Alert

That's right. There's no one I'd have with the 14th pick when trading back offers the potential to grab another 2nd round pick as well as regain our third. So with that, we'll be moving towards the tail end of the draft and we'll be picking up a 2nd and a 3rd round pick. In a perfect world, our trade partners are the Atlanta Falcons, in which they then select a huge bust with our 14th pick... but hey, that's just me dreaming. To determine this trade, I consulted Walter Football's draft chart.

Now, I've got some room to play with. I don't like being smothered.

Round 1 (Trade): DT - Kawann Short

What do I say?
With our first actual pick, I'm hoping DT Kawann Short is still on the board. He has been my favorite DT since day 1. He'd be an excellent compliment to Johnson & Hardy. I bet he'd even register a couple sacks. That would leave just one open spot on the line for one of our current DT's to step up and fill or a free agent to come in and take.

What does the scout say?

"Short is a large human being with a huge wingspan, using his long arms to bat down passes (11 pass break-ups) and make plays on special teams (4 blocked kicks).

Short can be an immovable object in the middle of the field when he plays disciplined and generates power from his lower body. However, he too often gives streaky effort and doesn't consistently play with leverage.

Short sees a lot of double-teams, but scouts want to see more of a mean streak and less passiveness. He has been productive over his first three seasons in West Lafayette, but there is also some negative game tape out there on him. And while Short will still be an attractive pro prospect because of his natural size and tools, he needs to prove he can be consistently more than just a plugging space-eater to cement his top-50 status.

Compares To: Domata Peko, DT, Cincinnati Bengals - Like Peko, Short has a stout, wide frame to consistently stuff the run, but also show the foot quickness to penetrate and makes plays away from the line of scrimmage. Although there are questions about Short's consistency, he has potential to be a consistent starter like Peko.

--Rob Rang"

Round 2: S - Eric Reid

What do I say?
Eric Reid is a lot like Vaccaro. Both are similarly sized heavy hitters with a tendency to get burned deep. I know, that should be a red flag, shouldn't it? I think it's correctable. I see an extremely talented safety in Reid that Rivera & Co will have whipped into top form within a season or two, but one capable of starting right away.

What does the scout say?

"Strengths: Possesses the prototypical frame for the position, boasting wide shoulders, long arms and a tapered frame. Reid is a fantastic downhill athlete with quick read-and-react ability to attack the play with steam spurting from his ears. He might be the explosive hitter from the safety position in the 2013 draft, closing with the speed and physicality of a linebacker rather than a defensive back.

Possesses the size and athleticism combination teams are desperate to find to counter the hybrid receiver/tight ends taking over the seams. Doesn't possess top flexibility but accelerates surprisingly well for his length and has good straight-line speed, overall. Physical with receivers downfield and plays 50-50 balls well, using his size and strength to his advantage.

Weaknesses: Reid's biggest strength is also his greatest weakness. He plays with nonstop aggressiveness and intensity, but he doesn't always control that hostility in a smart way on the football field. He throws his body around and might be the most violent striker in the SEC, but if Reid doesn't learn how to play smarter and harness his fierce playing style then he'll have a tough time making a living in the NFL.

He is a bit stiff in coverage and can be beaten by quicker slot receivers. Has been protected by some awfully talented cornerbacks throughout his career and wasn't the playmaker in 2012 he had been the past two seasons with Claiborne and Mathieu no longer on the roster.

Compares To: LaRon Landry, FS, New York Jets -- Reid signed with LSU patterning his game after the former Tigers' standout and it shows in his physique and bone-jarring hits. Of concern to scouts is the fact that Reid, like Landry, is a bit stiff and not as fast on the field in deep coverage as he may test during workouts.

--Rob Rang"

Round 2 (Trade): WR - Da'Rick Rodgers

What do I say?
I can't lie. Passing on Cordarrelle Patterson wasn't easy and I really wanted Quinton Patton after Patterson but I just don't believe Patton is going to be available late in the 2nd round. At least, not the way things are shaping up right now. If he drops I'd grab him up in a minute but realistically, I'm looking at Da'Rick Rodgers here. Rodgers would be an excellent addition to our receiving corps and could really excel opposite Steve Smith or between Smith and LaFell, or with Smith between Rodgers and LaFell... Get it? He brings the versatility to our receivers that Smitty has been asking for far too long now and has the potential to develop into not only a #1 receiver but an elite receiver.

Rodgers is good for Carolina and Carolina is good for Rodgers. A solid locker room with multiple veterans to look up and learn from, how many times have we heard the Carolina locker room referred to as a "family"? Sounds like just the place someone like Rodgers needs. Luckily for us, that comes later and grabbing Rodgers at the bottom of the second comes now.

What does the scout say?

"Strengths: Despite playing in the ultra-physical SEC, Rogers proved too strong for most teams to consider pressing. He's also versatile, showing the ability to line up outside, as well as in the slot. While it is easy to get excited about Rogers' size-speed potential, one of his greatest attributes is simply his toughness, as he absorbed several big collisions on games viewed and never dropped a pass due to a hit while at Tennessee. Rogers is a powerful runner who fights for additional yardage and has the agility and speed to run away from the pack for explosive plays.

Weaknesses: Generally a reliable pass catcher, but will occasionally look to juke the defender before securing the pass, resulting in an occasional bad drop. Until he cleans up the conception that he's a troublemaker, it may not matter how talented Rogers is, NFL teams will be too concerned to give him the first-round grade his talent deserves.

--Rob Rang"

Round 3 (Trade): CB - Will Davis

What do I say?
The last pick gained from our trade back. I contemplated this pick for some time. David Amerson has the size but lacks speed and is oft-beaten. Leon McFadden seems like the pick here but lacks ideal size in a division with foes that are both large and fast, like Julio Jones. B.W. Webb could easily be our very own B.W. Smith in disguise, and Blidi Wreh-Wilson has a cool name. Ultimately, I felt like Will Davis provided the best fit with some coaching up. Also, Panther fans of old, don't shoot.

What does the scout say?

"STRENGTHS: Possesses a long, lean build ideally suited to the position. Loose-hipped athlete with good balance and overall fluidity to change directions. Good burst to close on the ball due to his vision and quick feet. Possesses at least moderate straight-line speed and tracks the ball well.

Shows good leaping ability, timing and body control to compete for jump-balls. Uses his hands well to limit the receiver's ability to make a play, weaving them into his opponents' frame to break up passes at the last moment.

Accomplished press corner with the arm-length, fluidity and aggression to perform well in this role in the NFL. Aggressive with his hands throughout the route, and shows surprising savvy to hold and not get penalized (considering his relative inexperience).

Possesses some natural return ability and has scored three touchdowns off of interception returns over the past three seasons.

Reliable downfield tackler. Recognizes his containment responsibilities versus the run and works to funnel the action back inside toward his teammates.

WEAKNESSES: A bit of a finesse defender, at this time. Possesses only average physicality, overall, as a tackler. Struggles to break free from physical blocks and does a lot of standing around the pile when he can get away with it.

Has a tendency to duck his head, latch on and get dragged for a tackle rather than truly driving through his opponent for the emphatic stop. Highly aggressive and will bite on double-moves, showing less than ideal makeup speed to recover when beaten initially.

Legitimate level of competition questions, as he has only one season as the full-time starter at Utah State and has just 18 career starts at the FBS level.

COMPARES TO: Richard Marshall, Dolphins -- Like the former Carolina Panthers second round pick (2006), Davis has intriguing natural athleticism for coverage and ball skills and may only need greater physicality to emerge as a starter in the NFL.

--Rob Rang"

Round 4: OT - Xavier Nixon

What do I say?
We're getting towards the end of the draft now, where there are some hits and a lot of misses, with much of the mundane connecting them. I haven't addressed the line up to this point because I have two prospects in mind. I believe Nixon has a lot of potential that our coaching staff can harness and letting him learn the nuances of the game behind some of the best could be just what he needs to develop into a starter.

What does the scout say?

"Strengths: Natural in space with very good flexibility and bend. Stays balanced in pass protection with rare athleticism and fluidity for the position. Effortless kickslide with the feet to easily mirror defenders. Extends his hands to jolt rushers while staying coordinated through contact.

Improved awareness to pick up blitzers and defensive disguises. Doing a much improved job of not overextending and staying squared to his target. Has worked on improving his anchor and keeping his butt low to the ground to boost his base strength. Smooth mover and fluid puller with clean hip movements, blocking well on the move. Has a lot of starting experience in the SEC at a premium position.

Weaknesses: Plays too light and lacks the natural base strength, allowing himself to be bullied backwards. Needs to do a better job pre-snap of recognizing what the defense is planning to do. Too many mental errors over his career and will have moments that leave the coaches scratching their heads. Needs to remain patient in his stand and gets himself in trouble when he lunges.

Plays too passive at times and needs to continue and fight through the whistle. Missed some time in 2012 with a knee and "upper body" injury. Too many penalties on his resume, mostly false starts.

Compares To: Demetress Bell, OT, Philadelphia Eagles - Although they both need some technique work, Nixon and Bell both have the athleticism and mobility to protect the edge at the next level. Consistency can be an issue, but hard to argue with the raw skills.

Dane Brugler"

Round 5: OG - Hugh Thornton

What do I say?
Addressing the line again, we're moving inside with Thornton; another player that just needs some time and a little coaching. Between Thornton and Nixon, I like to think we gain solid depth and the possibility of two future starters. If injury plagues us again, they'd be there to step in. If not, they get the luxury of development. They may not be flashy picks but I believe they're solid long term investments.

What does the scout say?

"POSITIVES: Thick, powerful frame with good arm length. A natural bender who establishes a solid base routinely in pass protection and utilizes lower-body leverage extremely well against longer, taller defenders. Exhibits powerful, heavy hands on contact, and does a good job of keeping his frame clean by extending his arms consistently.

Displays impressive upper-body strength to ragdoll and toss defenders aside at the point of attack. Possesses lateral fluidity and agility to close off the edge, and redirects with some suddenness to thwart the quick counter move. Targets decisively in space and possesses good burst to lead the second-level charge in the run game. Squares up nicely on the run and displays flexibility and suddenness to adjust to defenders coming from various angles in space. Plays with a bit of a nasty streak, and fights to the whistle. Versatile lineman with experience at guard and tackle.

NEGATIVES: Will get anxious and overextend at times off the snap. Leads with his shoulder and will drop his head when engaging defenders in space. Lacks the ideal height and length for a prototypical NFL tackle. Will get too upright in his kick-slide taking him out of position to utilize leverage on contact. Will stop moving his feet when asked to hold position, leaving him susceptible to being thrown aside or pulled to the ground.

COMPARES TO: Sean Locklear, OT, New York Giants - Thornton, like Locklear, may not possess the ideal frame to play tackle at the next level, but his physicality, flexibility and natural athleticism help him to compensate. A probable mid-round selection with starter upside.

--Derek Stephens"

Round 6: K - Dustin Hopkins

What do I say?
Call it jumping on the bandwagon if you must, but both Jaxon and James are right. It's time we stop playing around and invest in a kicker. It seems like the position has been in flux since Kasay left and that is not a good thing if we want to consider a play off run. Panther fans should know the importance of a good, reliable kicker.

Look at all of the kickers you want. When you return, you'll agree that Hopkins is the pick here.

What does the scout say?

"STRENGTHS: Possesses a lean, athletic build. Consistent approach, kick and follow-through which has resulted in reliable accuracy. Even when Hopkins misses, he's been close with kicks typically sailing within a foot or two of the uprights. Gets a high trajectory on his kicks and had zero blocked throughout his career. Has shown the ability to make high pressure kicks, including a 55-yard game-winner to beat Clemson in 2010... Played outside at Florida State and therefore shouldn't have any issues with footing outside at the next level. Consistently reached the endzone on kickoffs and won't have any problem doing so in the NFL. Willing defender with good athleticism and competitive spirit. Recorded 10 tackles (four solo) on kickoff returns over his career.

WEAKNESSES: A bit slim for the position. For all of Hopkins' success, he did miss some potential game-winners, including one from 40-yards out in the closing seconds against North Carolina one week prior to his big game-winning kick to beat Clemson in 2010 and a 42-yarder against Virginia in 2011. Hasn't played in many cold-weather games...

Compares to: Stephen Gostkowski, K, New England Patriots"

Well, there it is. Some risks, some hopes, and some... more risks. I believe the safest pick in this mock draft is probably the 6th round kicker, Hopkins. In an ideal world (AKA: my world) I've just selected 7 future pro bowlers, the offensive rookie of the year, and the defensive rookie of the year. Realistically, I would hope to get 3, potentially 4, starters out of this draft (Short, Reid, Rodgers, Hopkins) and 3 good depth players (Davis, Nixon, Thornton) that could fill-in as needed.

Short, Rodgers, and Hopkins would all likely start immediately. Reid would likely start due to a lack of talent in the secondary but, with growing pains, would grow into a full-time starter. Davis could be forced into a starting role depending on how the rest of the secondary shakes out but I'm not sure I'd like to see that immediately. Preferably he, Nixon, and Thornton would have plenty of time to work on their technique before being forced into any game time situations.

Round 1: Trade Alert

Round 1 (Trade): DT - Kawann Short

"Short is a large human being with a huge wingspan, using his long arms to bat down passes (11 pass break-ups) and make plays on special teams (4 blocked kicks).

Short can be an immovable object in the middle of the field when he plays disciplined and generates power from his lower body. However, he too often gives streaky effort and doesn't consistently play with leverage.

Short sees a lot of double-teams, but scouts want to see more of a mean streak and less passiveness. He has been productive over his first three seasons in West Lafayette, but there is also some negative game tape out there on him. And while Short will still be an attractive pro prospect because of his natural size and tools, he needs to prove he can be consistently more than just a plugging space-eater to cement his top-50 status.

Compares To: Domata Peko, DT, Cincinnati Bengals - Like Peko, Short has a stout, wide frame to consistently stuff the run, but also show the foot quickness to penetrate and makes plays away from the line of scrimmage. Although there are questions about Short's consistency, he has potential to be a consistent starter like Peko.

--Rob Rang"

Round 2: S - Eric Reid

"Strengths: Possesses the prototypical frame for the position, boasting wide shoulders, long arms and a tapered frame. Reid is a fantastic downhill athlete with quick read-and-react ability to attack the play with steam spurting from his ears. He might be the explosive hitter from the safety position in the 2013 draft, closing with the speed and physicality of a linebacker rather than a defensive back.

Possesses the size and athleticism combination teams are desperate to find to counter the hybrid receiver/tight ends taking over the seams. Doesn't possess top flexibility but accelerates surprisingly well for his length and has good straight-line speed, overall. Physical with receivers downfield and plays 50-50 balls well, using his size and strength to his advantage.

Weaknesses: Reid's biggest strength is also his greatest weakness. He plays with nonstop aggressiveness and intensity, but he doesn't always control that hostility in a smart way on the football field. He throws his body around and might be the most violent striker in the SEC, but if Reid doesn't learn how to play smarter and harness his fierce playing style then he'll have a tough time making a living in the NFL.

He is a bit stiff in coverage and can be beaten by quicker slot receivers. Has been protected by some awfully talented cornerbacks throughout his career and wasn't the playmaker in 2012 he had been the past two seasons with Claiborne and Mathieu no longer on the roster.

Compares To: LaRon Landry, FS, New York Jets -- Reid signed with LSU patterning his game after the former Tigers' standout and it shows in his physique and bone-jarring hits. Of concern to scouts is the fact that Reid, like Landry, is a bit stiff and not as fast on the field in deep coverage as he may test during workouts.

--Rob Rang"

Round 2 (Trade): WR - Da'Rick Rodgers

"Strengths: Despite playing in the ultra-physical SEC, Rogers proved too strong for most teams to consider pressing. He's also versatile, showing the ability to line up outside, as well as in the slot. While it is easy to get excited about Rogers' size-speed potential, one of his greatest attributes is simply his toughness, as he absorbed several big collisions on games viewed and never dropped a pass due to a hit while at Tennessee. Rogers is a powerful runner who fights for additional yardage and has the agility and speed to run away from the pack for explosive plays.

Weaknesses: Generally a reliable pass catcher, but will occasionally look to juke the defender before securing the pass, resulting in an occasional bad drop. Until he cleans up the conception that he's a troublemaker, it may not matter how talented Rogers is, NFL teams will be too concerned to give him the first-round grade his talent deserves.

--Rob Rang"

Round 3 (Trade): CB - Will Davis

"STRENGTHS: Possesses a long, lean build ideally suited to the position. Loose-hipped athlete with good balance and overall fluidity to change directions. Good burst to close on the ball due to his vision and quick feet. Possesses at least moderate straight-line speed and tracks the ball well.

Shows good leaping ability, timing and body control to compete for jump-balls. Uses his hands well to limit the receiver's ability to make a play, weaving them into his opponents' frame to break up passes at the last moment.

Accomplished press corner with the arm-length, fluidity and aggression to perform well in this role in the NFL. Aggressive with his hands throughout the route, and shows surprising savvy to hold and not get penalized (considering his relative inexperience).

Possesses some natural return ability and has scored three touchdowns off of interception returns over the past three seasons.

Reliable downfield tackler. Recognizes his containment responsibilities versus the run and works to funnel the action back inside toward his teammates.

WEAKNESSES: A bit of a finesse defender, at this time. Possesses only average physicality, overall, as a tackler. Struggles to break free from physical blocks and does a lot of standing around the pile when he can get away with it.

Has a tendency to duck his head, latch on and get dragged for a tackle rather than truly driving through his opponent for the emphatic stop. Highly aggressive and will bite on double-moves, showing less than ideal makeup speed to recover when beaten initially.

Legitimate level of competition questions, as he has only one season as the full-time starter at Utah State and has just 18 career starts at the FBS level.

COMPARES TO: Richard Marshall, Dolphins -- Like the former Carolina Panthers second round pick (2006), Davis has intriguing natural athleticism for coverage and ball skills and may only need greater physicality to emerge as a starter in the NFL.

--Rob Rang"

Round 4: OT - Xavier Nixon

"Strengths: Natural in space with very good flexibility and bend. Stays balanced in pass protection with rare athleticism and fluidity for the position. Effortless kickslide with the feet to easily mirror defenders. Extends his hands to jolt rushers while staying coordinated through contact.

Improved awareness to pick up blitzers and defensive disguises. Doing a much improved job of not overextending and staying squared to his target. Has worked on improving his anchor and keeping his butt low to the ground to boost his base strength. Smooth mover and fluid puller with clean hip movements, blocking well on the move. Has a lot of starting experience in the SEC at a premium position.

Weaknesses: Plays too light and lacks the natural base strength, allowing himself to be bullied backwards. Needs to do a better job pre-snap of recognizing what the defense is planning to do. Too many mental errors over his career and will have moments that leave the coaches scratching their heads. Needs to remain patient in his stand and gets himself in trouble when he lunges.

Plays too passive at times and needs to continue and fight through the whistle. Missed some time in 2012 with a knee and "upper body" injury. Too many penalties on his resume, mostly false starts.

Compares To: Demetress Bell, OT, Philadelphia Eagles - Although they both need some technique work, Nixon and Bell both have the athleticism and mobility to protect the edge at the next level. Consistency can be an issue, but hard to argue with the raw skills.

Dane Brugler"

Round 5: OG - Hugh Thornton

"POSITIVES: Thick, powerful frame with good arm length. A natural bender who establishes a solid base routinely in pass protection and utilizes lower-body leverage extremely well against longer, taller defenders. Exhibits powerful, heavy hands on contact, and does a good job of keeping his frame clean by extending his arms consistently.

Displays impressive upper-body strength to ragdoll and toss defenders aside at the point of attack. Possesses lateral fluidity and agility to close off the edge, and redirects with some suddenness to thwart the quick counter move. Targets decisively in space and possesses good burst to lead the second-level charge in the run game. Squares up nicely on the run and displays flexibility and suddenness to adjust to defenders coming from various angles in space. Plays with a bit of a nasty streak, and fights to the whistle. Versatile lineman with experience at guard and tackle.

NEGATIVES: Will get anxious and overextend at times off the snap. Leads with his shoulder and will drop his head when engaging defenders in space. Lacks the ideal height and length for a prototypical NFL tackle. Will get too upright in his kick-slide taking him out of position to utilize leverage on contact. Will stop moving his feet when asked to hold position, leaving him susceptible to being thrown aside or pulled to the ground.

COMPARES TO: Sean Locklear, OT, New York Giants - Thornton, like Locklear, may not possess the ideal frame to play tackle at the next level, but his physicality, flexibility and natural athleticism help him to compensate. A probable mid-round selection with starter upside.

--Derek Stephens"

Round 6: K - Dustin Hopkins

"STRENGTHS: Possesses a lean, athletic build. Consistent approach, kick and follow-through which has resulted in reliable accuracy. Even when Hopkins misses, he's been close with kicks typically sailing within a foot or two of the uprights. Gets a high trajectory on his kicks and had zero blocked throughout his career. Has shown the ability to make high pressure kicks, including a 55-yard game-winner to beat Clemson in 2010... Played outside at Florida State and therefore shouldn't have any issues with footing outside at the next level. Consistently reached the endzone on kickoffs and won't have any problem doing so in the NFL. Willing defender with good athleticism and competitive spirit. Recorded 10 tackles (four solo) on kickoff returns over his career.

WEAKNESSES: A bit slim for the position. For all of Hopkins' success, he did miss some potential game-winners, including one from 40-yards out in the closing seconds against North Carolina one week prior to his big game-winning kick to beat Clemson in 2010 and a 42-yarder against Virginia in 2011. Hasn't played in many cold-weather games...

Compares to: Stephen Gostkowski, K, New England Patriots"

Best Panthers RB in Madden 13: Mike Tolbert?

D-Ranged1 — Fri, 10 Aug 2012 17:58:05 -0000

Best Panthers RB in Madden 13: Mike Tolbert?

Mike Tolbert OVR 89
Jonathan Stewart OVR 84
DeAngelo Williams OVR 84

Please don't take this the wrong way, 4th Phase, but I've asked to be traded. Sometimes you gotta...

D-Ranged1 — Mon, 17 Oct 2011 15:35:24 -0000

Please don't take this the wrong way, 4th Phase, but I've asked to be traded. Sometimes you gotta do what you gotta do for the sake of yourself and your Family. And no matter this situation's outcome, you too will continue to be a part of my Fam.

BEAR DOWN and RISE UP!

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Our secondary and the QB's we've faced.

D-Ranged1 — Sun, 09 Oct 2011 02:25:06 -0000

Almost overshadowed by our abysmal run defense, Carolina's secondary has worked their way into the top 10 in pass defense and is all but knocking the door down to get into the top 5. They started slow, allowing Kevin Kolb to carve us up and look like a pro-bowler week 1 of the season, but have tightened the bolts and came together over the first quarter of the season. It is my hope that I can provide a convincing argument as to why we should all be excited for this group that many consider to be one of our bigger weaknesses.

Here's a look at how opposing quarterbacks played against the Panthers secondary in comparison to how they performed, on average, in their other 3 games.

Also keep in mind that our promising rookie, Brandon Hogan, hasn't even seen the field yet and that Chris Gamble only played in three of the four games due to injury.

Week 1: Kevin Kolb
vs Panthers: 27 att, 66.7%, 309 yds, 2 TD, 0 INT, 130.0 QBR
Average: 34 att, 59.9%, 247 yds, 1 TD, 1.3 INT, 76.7 QBR

Ouch! It's just as bad in retrospect as it felt during, and directly after, the game. With our new staff and new scheme, we just weren't ready yet. He exceeded what would eventually be his first quarter average in every category except the one we'd want, the interceptions. The bottom line is: our impromptu defense made an average quarterback look elite.

Week 2: vs. Aaron Rodgers
vs Panthers: 30 att, 63.3%, 308 yds, 2 TD, 0 INT, 119.9 QBR
Average: 37 att, 75.7%, 339 yds, 3.3 TD, 0.66 INT, 126 QBR

After making Kevin Kolb look like a world-beater, I imagine many fans were extremely worried about the defending Super Bowl champions coming to town and Aaron Rodgers having a phenomenal game. While Rodgers definitely had a good, even great, game against our secondary, it was actually below his first quarter average. While we still came up short in terms of interceptions, everything else was negative (which is positive for us). The biggest difference I see is the 12.4% deviation in completion percentage. Rodgers was coming off of a game against New Orleans where he completed an astounding 77.1% of his 35 pass attempts and jumped right back into the 70's after playing against us, averaging 73.7% against Chicago the following week. At the time, it looked like Rodgers just had an off-week but I believe we were starting to see our secondary come together, both in terms of chemistry with one another and familiarity of the scheme.

Week 3: vs. Blaine Gabbert
vs Panthers: 21 att, 57.1%, 139 yds, 1 TD, 1 INT, 73.3 QBR
Average: 24 att, 60.7%, 124 yds, 0.5 TD, 0.5 INT, 77 QBR

This one is the most deceiving of the comparisons. What Gabberts "average" really consists of is his excellent, albeit brief, late game duty against the Jets (or as some would call it: garbage time) and overabundance of pitiful stats against next weeks opponent, New Orleans (we're talking 42 attempts with a 38.1% completion rate). While Gabbert seems to have performed in line with his average against us, I'd really have to label this one as being inconclusive, at least until Gabbert gets two more starts under his belt.

Week 4: vs. Jay Cutler
vs Panthers: 17 att, 52.9%, 102 yds, 0 TD, 1 INT, 46.7 QBR
Average: 38 att, 55.9%, 286 yds, 1.7 TD, 1 INT, 83.6 QBR

While Jay Cutlers inconsistency remains about the same, still completing just over half of his attempts, the rest of his stats really jump out to me. Prior to facing the Panthers, Cutler was averaging 286 yards per game. If he had approximately continued with that average, he would currently be ranked 9th. However, add in the Panthers and Cutler drops to 240, placing him at 21st. Facing the Panthers secondary caused Cutler to drop from top 10 to right outside of the bottom third. Of course, yards per game is just one stat and could never tell the whole story but when coupled with the fact that Cutler was also averaging nearly 2 touchdowns per game and we held him to none, we have to think that the Panthers secondary is headed in the right direction.

That just leaves me with one question regarding Cutler... Is he really that bad? When your running back leads the team in receptions and you still can't break 55% for the season, I have to wonder...

Week 5: vs. Drew Brees
Speaking of running backs that lead their team in receptions, we face another quick back that likes to catch and run this week in Darren Sproles. I'm not worried about Ingram or Thomas but, honestly, Sproles scares me. In my opinion, he's going to be a huge factor in this game and could be the difference in a win or loss. If we let Sproles run freely like Forte, it's going to be a long Sunday for us Panther fans.

For fun, lets look at Brees' season to date then we can compare after the game to see if the Panthers continue their recent trend of holding opponents to or under their average.

43 att, 69%, 352 yds, 2.5 TD, 1 INT, 102.9 QBR

Yes, that looks scary but I believe we have the secondary to hold Brees in check, at least enough to remain competitive throughout the game. It'll be our offenses job to handle the rest. My predictions for Brees' game-time stats, hyperbole aside, are...

46 att, 67%, 325 yds, 3 TD, 1 INT, 100 QBR

Will I be right? Who knows, I'm just a Panther fan who does this for fun, but I definitely wouldn't be surprised to see Brees finish the game with a similar stat line. I also expect Newton to keep us in this one, a game in which the winner must score into the high 20's, at least.

Do we win this game? Realistically, probably not. Do we gain a lot of valuable experience and see a spectacular performance by Newton & Co while our team continues to develop? I'd be willing to say absolutely. We're still a young team and, just like our secondary, we're still coming together and getting better. The swamp-like Jacksonville game aside, we've outscored ourselves every week. Lets hope this one is no different as we hang 30+ points on the Saints and finally give the NFL the performance they've been waiting on.

Final Words...
I hope that by looking at our consistent week-to-week improvement against the pass as well as comparing our opponents performance against us to their average, we can consider this a solid unit on the rise that is well worthy of their ranking at sixth. I think it's safe to write off our early deficiencies to a new staff, a new system, and a lack of time. Our secondary has gone from a weakness to what could be a strength, if they keep showing improvement at this rate. There are a lot of "if's" and it's still early but if we can step up again this week by holding Drew Brees below his average, I'll be convinced that our top 10 ranking is legit.

Should the Panthers trade back for Colin Kaepernick? One fan thinks so

D-Ranged1 — Thu, 24 Mar 2011 22:19:53 -0000

This draft idea essentially "piggy-backs" off of the Fan-Post by James Dator entitled "Could the Arizona Cardinals emerge as a trade partner?" Surely we've all been a part of or witnessed the debate of rather or not such a trade is worth it. A lot of attention has been given to the 5th overall pick and what it would mean, moving back from 1st overall, but we haven't exactly went in-depth concerning what could be done with the second round pick we would gain, the 38th overall pick. I have an idea and I am so convinced of it, that I would support this trade wholeheartedly, without hesitation.

My goal in taking the time to write this Fan-Post is that I may convince just a few others that there is life beyond the "Big Three" (or two, depending on your take on the possible QB candidates). With that in mind, for the remainder of this Fan-Post, I'll be writing under three assumptions:

A) That the Cardinals trade no less than their 1st and 2nd round picks to us for the #1 overall pick.
B) That Carolina would be willing to spend the 38th pick on Kaepernick.
C) That Carolina plans to bring a veteran free agent QB in regardless of how the draft goes.

(For the sake of staying on topic, I will be skipping the first round and free agent talk. I have an opinion of who we should take in this situation but that's for another time.)

Most of you know of him, if only by name, but he may be new to a few. Allow me to introduce, or re-introduce, Colin Kaepernick to you all.

First things first, who is Colin Kaepernick on the most basic of levels? He's a 23 year old senior billed at 6'6" (though, interestingly, I've seen varying accounts of his size.) and 225lbs from Turlock, California. His birthday, November 3rd, also comes three days before mine, now that's an added bonus. Playing in a total of 14 games as a senior, Kaepernick won all but one to finish the year with a record of 13-1.

Statistically, Kaepernick has been a solid quarterback through the entirety of his college career. Taking a look at the stats of his senior year, we'll compare them to a few of the big names, just for those that may want a statistical stick to measure him by. We'll include the "Big Three" and, don't shoot, the Golden Boy that most believe to be the crème de la crème of quarterbacks coming out this year and within the foreseeable future. If we're to judge, we need a ceiling, do we not? We'll start with the man of the hour...

(CMP/ATT - YARDS - CMP% - YARDS/ATT - LONG - TD - INT - SACKS TAKEN - RATING - RECORD)

Colin Kaepernick
233/359 - 3,022 - 64.9 - 8.42 - 79 - 21 - 08 - 10 - 150.46 - 12-1

Cam Newton
185/280 - 2,854 - 66.1 - 10.19 - 94 - 30 - 07 - 23 - 182.05 - 13-0

Blaine Gabbert
301/475 - 3,186 - 63.4 - 6.71 - 68 - 16 - 09 - 23 - 127.03 - 10-2

Ryan Mallet
266/411 - 3,869 - 64.7 - 9.41 - 89 - 32 - 12 - 25 - 163.65 - 10-2

Andrew Luck
263/372 - 3,338 - 70.7 - 8.97 - 81 - 32 - 08 - 06 - 170.16 - 11-1

I have to be perfectly honest. From strictly a statistical point of view, there's only one man who looks as though he doesn't belong in that group. No, it's not Colin Kaepernick, not even Ryan Mallet, but Blaine Gabbert. But, again, that's another topic for another time. Kaepernick holds his own with each of these projected first round picks, yet has been slated to go so low as in the 4th round by some.

Oddly enough, the stat that I find most impressive is Kaepernick's lack of sacks taken. He's not just fast when he decides to run the ball but very elusive in the backfield, buying time in the pocket as needed. This will be demonstrated near the end of this post, in the videos.

Statistics out of the way, what are the pro's and con's as discerned by those "professionals" we so love and hate at any given time? I'll compile here as large a list as I can find.

Pro's
Athleticism
Strong arm
Good zip
Reads defenses well
Nice touch
Elusive
Throws well from both the pocket and on the run
Makes big plays with both his arm and legs
Plays with a lot of confidence
Fast, Agile, Large
Determined athlete
Durable team leader
Tough
Hard worker
Checks down to different receivers, includes tight end
Smart player
Very coachable
Consistent improvement
Good poise

Con's
Raw Talent
Long windup
Holds ball too low
Inconsistent accuracy
Deep ball accuracy
Questionable decision making
Thin frame
Lack of snaps under center
Ball security while running
Offensive system
Does not consistently go through progressions
Needs to use eyes and pump fakes to move defenders

What do we gain from looking at these pro's and con's? Colin Kaepernick is an outstanding athlete with potential to be a game changing QB both by air and ground but will require the proper coaching to reach that level. There were many remarks on his good character, determination, and hard working attitude. The biggest challenge Kaepernick looks to face will be reworking his throwing motion as to release the ball higher and quicker. He'll also need to add weight and build his frame to take a 100% certified grade NFL pounding.

So we've got the gist of what he does right and wrong but what are they specifically saying about Kaepernick? Lets look at a few quotes...

"According to a league source, Kaepernick hit 36 of his 38 throws on campus, not including a couple of drops. 25 teams were represented at the workout, including quarterback coaches from the Jaguars (Mike Sheppard) and Panthers (Mike Shula)."
- Evan Silva of NBC Sports

"The only player in NCAA history with 4,000-plus rushing yards and 10,000-plus passing yards, and one of three quarterbacks in NCAA history to have at least 20 touchdowns both rushing and passing in the same season..."

"Three-year starter is a tremendous athlete and a very mobile prospect who set too many college records to count. Strong arm, can laser the ball, also has a 90-plus mph fastball as a baseball pitcher."
- NFLDraftScout.com

"He's a long strider who makes a ton of plays on his feet, and he evades pressure with ease. But in terms or passing, Kaepernick is quite underrated. He puts good zip on his passes, and has very solid arm strength. While his accuracy isn't amazing, it's still better than what many want to give him credit for. He puts good touch on his passes and makes passes towards the sidelines on come backs, hitches, outs and flags look easy."
- Keet Bailey of NFLSoup.com

"Kaepernick has exceptional physical tools. He is still a raw and unfinished project who will have to fine tune some mechanics and learn a pro-style offense. Based on his high ceiling Kaepernick could find himself in the second round of the 2011 NFL draft. We think he is a very solid 3rd round choice for a team with some time to develop a young QB."
- Kevin C. of TheNationalFootballReport.com

"Kaepernick got the opportunity to prove that he could play in a pro-style offense when he accepted an invite to the Senior Bowl in late January. By most accounts, he passed with flying colors. Despite having little experience under center, Kaepernick did a great job with his drops and made strides through the week in diagnosing coverages and listening to coaches.

In Mobile, he also displayed the tremendous athleticism that allowed him to be so successful at Nevada. That athleticism was in full display at the Scouting Combine last week in Indianapolis. His 4.53 40 time was second best among quarterbacks and faster than all the first round candidate quarterbacks, including Jake Locker and Cam Newton. He also showed off his arm strength with a 59 mph throw that ranked as the fastest among quarterbacks at the combine, despite a quirky release."
- Adam Stites of TheJaggernaut.com

"NFL.com's Gil Brant reports that Kaepernick was "very impressive" in front of officials from 26 teams, and confirms Kaepernick has established himself as a "high-round draft prospect." Russ Lande of the Sporting News has Kaepernick rated as the No. 2 quarterback in the draft, behind only Blaine Gabbert. We have him teetering between the Seahawks at No. 25 and Bills at No. 34."
- Reported by RotoWorld.com

"Colin Kaepernick was remarkably consistent during his four years at Nevada. His touchdown passes were 19, 22, 20 and 21. He ran for 1,100 or more yards in each of his final three seasons. The passing yards were the only exception with less production in 2007 and 2009, but even against mostly WAC opponents he only threw 24 interceptions in 1,271 attempts. He also greatly improved his accuracy to 65 percent as a senior."
- Greg Cox of WalterFootball.com

(PS: Apologies for these not being blockquotes. I'm having issues with it quoting the entire post instead of what I highlight.)

It wasn't long ago that the thought of landing Kaepernick in the 4th round was more so a question of "is he worth it?" than "will he be there?" and yet now, as we close in on the final month before the draft, people are beginning to allude to the idea that Kaepernick could come off of the board so early as the bottom of the 1st round.

I view Colin Kaepernick + current mechanics as a "solid" to "good" quarterback but I do believe, with time and good coaching, Kaepernick + improved mechanics will be a force in the NFL. He'll be big, he'll be fast, and he'll be able to burn opposing teams whenever they commit to stopping our deadly backfield from running the ball. He also seems to fit our new philosiphy in wanting to spread the ball around.

He might not be our answer week 1 of 2011 (then again, it doesn't look like there will be a week 1 of 2011) but I think his value as a 2nd round pick is way too high to pass up. It'll enable us to strengthen our team elsewhere with the first round pick and still grab a QB with elite potential.

Ok, ok. I've fed you all of these words and opinions but, really, what does it all mean when you can't really see it for yourself? Seeing is believing, so who am I to convince you of something that you can't even see. Luckily for us, there just so happens to be a fantastic video of Kaepernick on the web.

Colin Kaepernick (via myarosesanchez)

So what say you, Panther fans? Is Kaepernick worth the 38th overall pick, freeing up the 5th pick for another position of need? Is there a glaring weakness you see in him that turns you off? Lets hear your opinion of the seldom mentioned QB. Those of you who I may have convinced that this may not be such a bad move, you're free to sing along with me as much as you wish...

"Driving that train, high on cocaine
Colin Kaepernick you better watch your speed
Trouble ahead, trouble behind
And you know that notion just crossed my mind"

So, how do our community draft picks compare?

D-Ranged1 — Mon, 27 Dec 2010 04:51:10 -0000

Remember that community draft we did last year? Well, with the current season almost at end and, I'm sure, the majority of CSR members preparing their mock drafts and warguments (Ok, I made that word up and it's corny, sue me) for this years draft, I figured it a decent time to take a quick look at how we did versus the Panthers organization. So what do you say, do we dare compare? Lets start with a quick run down of each draft... We'll set things off with the Panthers real draft.

NOTE: If you'll notice, the Panthers ended up with more draft picks than we. To compensate for this, I'll be comparing the top players of each round to our selections, assuming if the Panthers didn't have the pick (like us), they would have stuck with their original choice and simply not drafted the other players.

Panthers Draft

Round 2: Jimmy Clausen
Round 3: Brandon LaFell
Round 3: Armanti Edwards
Round 4: Eric Norwood
Round 6: Greg Hardy
Round 6: David Gettis
Round 6: Jordan Pugh
Round 6: Tony Pike
Round 7: RJ Stanford
Round 7: Robert McClain

CSR Draft

Round 2: Golden Tate
Round 3: Greg Hardy
Round 4: Jeff Owens
Round 6: Zac Robinson
Round 6: Brandon James
Round 6: Brandon Carter
Round 7: Syd'Quan Thompson
Round 7: Kyle Bosworth

So, lets get a little deeper into it... I'll stick to statistics then we can get biased in the comments. Ha!

Round 2: QB Jimmy Clausen vs WR Golden Tate

Panthers: Jimmy Clausen
136/266 - 51.9% - 1,376 YDS - 2 TD - 8 INT - 8/2 FUM/LOST - 56.8 QB Rating
CSR: Golden Tate
20 REC - 224 YDS - 11.2 AVG - 0 TD - 1/0 FUM/LOST

This is definitely a close call. While the future is up in the air, based on statistics alone, it looks like Carolina may have came out on top with Jimmy. Tate just hasn't been much of a factor for the Seahawks in his rookie season.

Round 3: WR Brandon LaFell vs DE Greg Hardy

Panthers: Brandon LaFell
34 REC - 405 YDS - 11.9 AVG - 1 TD - 0/0 FUM/LOST
CSR: Greg Hardy
26 TACKLES - 3 SCK - 1 SFTY - 2 FF

Look at that! Two now-Panther players head-to-head! This would be a tough call as well but the Panthers have to get the go-ahead for waiting until the 6th round to draft to pick up Hardy while also grabbing LaFell in his place.

Round 4: OLB/DE Eric Norwood vs DT Jeff Owens

Panthers: Eric Norwood
11 TACKLES
CSR: Jeff Owens
None

Umm... Well then. I guess we have to give this one to Carolina considering Owens has yet to see the field. I mean, 11 tackles are better than nothing at all, right? Maybe we should call it a wash and move on.

Round 6: DE Greg Hardy vs QB Zac Robinson

Panthers: Greg Hardy
26 TACKLES - 3 SCK - 1 SFTY - 2 FF
CSR: Zac Robinson
None

I think this one is pretty obvious. While Greg Hardy has made opposing teams take notice, Zac Robinson has drifted from the Seahawks to the Lions and has yet to find himself any actual game day snaps.

Round 6: WR David Gettis vs WR Brandon James

Panthers: David Gettis
33 REC - 475 YDS - 14.4 AVG - 3 TD - 0/0 FUM/LOST
CSR: Brandon James
6 REC - 40 YDS - 6.7 AVG - 0 TD - 0/0 FUM/LOST

Ouch. Carolina does it again, this time with a crushing blow to claim victory.

Round 6: QB Tony Pike vs OG Brandon Carter

Panthers: Tony Pike
6/12 - 50% - 47 YDS - 0 TD - 0 INT - 0/0 FUM/LOST - 60.1 QB Rating
CSR: Brandon Carter
None

Oh man. I really thought we had Carolina beat with this one and then I find out Brandon Carter hasn't seen any in-game action. Really, this is another I'd like to call a wash but I've got to give it to Carolina since Tony Pike has actually been in a game and all.

Round 7: CB RJ Stanford vs CB Syd'Quan Thompson

Panthers: RJ Stanford
None
CSR: Syd'Quan Thompson
16 TACKLES - 4 PDEF - 2 INT

Rejoice, Cat Scratchers! We did it! We out-drafted the Panthers in the 7th round! While RJ Stanford has yet to see any action our own pick, Syd'Quan Thompson has actually played in a real game! Score one CSR!

Note: I was prepared to give this one to CSR anyways just because we drafted a guy named Syd'Quan. By the way, props to his mother.

Round 7: CB Robert McClain vs LB Kyle Bosworth

Panthers: Robert McClain
15 TACKLES - 1 PDEF
CSR: Kyle Bosworth
None

Well, Carolina gets the last laugh here. While McClain doesn't have a whole lot to support their victory, Bosworth is yet another player that hasn't seen the field all year. By default, Carolina wins again.

So what's the score here? 7-1 Carolina? Hey! These guys do this for a living, meanwhile we're a bunch of arm-chair GM's & scouts, I'd be patting myself on the back just for the 1. I guess that sets the goal for next year at 2. So, did I mess up any judgements? How would you guys rate the comparisons? Also, what do you think of our 2010 community draft now that the season is almost over?

Finally, I'd like to finish this off by once again giving a special thanks to the CSR staff and those that made the CSR Community Draft possible. Such was not an easy task but they made it happen anyways. Job well done, guys!

What if Andrew Luck were drafted in 1998?

D-Ranged1 — Sun, 19 Dec 2010 07:47:00 -0000

DISCLAIMER: I compiled these stats to appease my own curiosity. I have chosen to share them in the hope that someone else may also find them useful. We've all had the "so and so is better than so and so and should be drafted as such" battle multiple times over, so please let us try to avoid that this time around and focus on the subject at hand. I'm not doing this to make any definitive statements that Luck will or will not succeed in the NFL, just taking a look at how thin of a line it truly is when judging college quarterbacks entering the NFL. It is no secret that many scouts have compared Luck to the first overall pick of the 1998 draft and one of the very best to ever play the game, Peyton Manning. What has not been mentioned very often is the "other guy" that went directly behind Manning, Mr. Ryan Leaf. What made Indianapolis choose Manning over Leaf? Why has Manning been so successful while Leaf amounted to a large, lump sum of failure? More importantly, if it is the 18th of April, 1998, how does Andrew Luck compare to each of them? We all know how they turned out in hindsight but this would most certainly be an interesting decision at the time. I will do my very best to avoid any biased remarks and "K.I.S.S" (Keep.It.Simple.Stupid).

Remember, I'm posting this only for those interested in seeing a statistical comparison between Luck, the guy all of the paid scouts are comparing him to, and the alternative to everything that is great that just so happened to come off of the board directly behind "the guy".

Age / Games Played
Peyton Manning
1994: 18 / 10
1995: 19 / 11
1996: 20 / 11
1997: 21 / 11

Ryan Leaf
1995: 19 / 9
1996: 20 / 11
1997: 21 / 12

Andrew Luck
2009: 19 / 12
2010: 20 / 12

Manning & Leaf both have an edge over Luck in terms of experience, however, if he chooses to enter the league this year he will be doing so with a one year advantage over both of them.
Completions / Attempts
Peyton Manning
1994: 89 / 144
1995: 244 / 380
1996: 243 / 380
1997: 287 / 477

Ryan Leaf
1995: 52 / 97
1996: 194 / 373
1997: 227 / 410

Andrew Luck
2009: 162 / 288
2010: 245 / 349

Luck was never asked to throw as much as either Manning or Leaf, though Manning only completed more passes than Luck once.
Completion Percentage
Peyton Manning
1994: 61.8%
1995: 64.2%
1996: 63.9%
1997: 60.2%

Ryan Leaf
1995: 53.6%
1996: 52.0%
1997: 55.4%

Andrew Luck
2009: 56.3%
2010: 70.2%

Manning and Leaf were both highly consistent with their completion percentages, fluctuating only 4 and 3.4% respectively throughout their college careers, from best-to-worst. Luck's worst surpassed Leaf and his best surpassed even Manning, though two years is hardly enough to make a good judgement out of when you have a 13.9% leap in accuracy.
Yards
Peyton Manning
1994: 1,141
1995: 2,954
1996: 3,287
1997: 3,819

Ryan Leaf
1995: 654
1996: 2,811
1997: 3,968

Andrew Luck
2009: 2,575
2010: 3,051

Leaf just barely managed to out Manning in terms of single season yardage but, overall, this isn't even a close race. Manning leads the pack while Leaf trails and Luck brings up the rear. While Luck has gotten off to a better start in his first two years, if he chooses to enter the draft, they will also be his final two years, which don't fare so well in comparison.
Touchdowns
Peyton Manning
1994: 11
1995: 22
1996: 20
1997: 36

Ryan Leaf
1995: 4
1996: 21
1997: 34

Andrew Luck
2009: 13
2010: 28

The same argument used above could also apply here. While Luck has accumulated more touchdowns in his first two years, he's far behind in total touchdowns (even if only considering the final two years of each) if he chooses to declare now.
Interceptions
Peyton Manning
1994: 6
1995: 4
1996: 12
1997: 11

Ryan Leaf
1995: 1
1996: 12
1997: 11

Andrew Luck
2009: 4
2010: 7

A very close comparison can be made with Manning and Luck here. Leaf is a little further out there. Regardless, numbers such as these are subject to multiple other factors. I find the percentages below much more intriguing.
Touchdown %
Peyton Manning
1994: 7.6%
1995: 5.8%
1996: 5.3%
1997: 7.5%

Ryan Leaf
1995: 4.1%
1996: 5.6%
1997: 8.3%

Andrew Luck
2009: 4.5%
2010: 8.0%

Manning's first and last years were his best in terms of touchdown %, though the two in-between weren't exactly bad. Leaf progressively got better, posting the highest percentage of all three in his final year. Luck, much like with his completion percentage, made an outstanding jump from 2009 to 2010. It's tough to judge such a small sample size, determining which is the rule and which is the exception, while likely impossible at this time, is the key.
Interception %
Peyton Manning
1994: 4.2%
1995: 1.1%
1996: 3.2%
1997: 2.3%

Ryan Leaf
1995: 1.0%
1996: 3.2%
1997: 2.7%

Andrew Luck
2009: 1.4%
2010: 2.0%

Combining these with the touchdown percentages, it's easy to see that all of their best years were their final. The largest margin was posted by Luck, with a 6% difference between his TD% and INT%. I find it interesting that none of them ever posted the same whole percentage twice. Manning posted 1%, 2%, 3%, and 4% in his four years, Leaf 1%, 2%, and 3% in his three years, and Luck 1% and 2% in his two years. Meaningless but something I find amusing nonetheless.
Yards / Game
Peyton Manning
1994: 114.1
1995: 268.5
1996: 298.8
1997: 347.2

Ryan Leaf
1995: 72.7
1996: 255.5
1997: 330.7

Andrew Luck
2009: 214.6
2010: 254.3

Outside of Manning and Leaf's first year each, Luck hasn't been able to surpass them at any point. Manning has a clear lead strictly in terms of yards per game.
Yards / Attempt
Peyton Manning
1994: 7.9
1995: 7.8
1996: 8.7
1997: 8.0

Ryan Leaf
1995: 6.7
1996: 7.5
1997: 9.7

Andrew Luck
2009: 8.9
2010: 8.7

I find it outstanding (and ironic) that Leaf averaged 9.7 yards per attempt in '97. What Leaf lacked, though, was consistency. Over the course of his college career, he averaged only 8 yards per attempt even with the exception in '97. Manning and Luck averaged 8.1 and 8.8 yards per attempt, respectively, in a much more consistent manner.
QB Rating
Peyton Manning
1994: 145.2
1995: 146.5
1996: 147.7
1997: 147.7

Ryan Leaf:
1995: 121.8
1996: 127.5
1997: 158.7

Andrew Luck
2009: 143.5
2010: 166.1

Manning could be considered a role model for consistency here, posting the exact same quarterback rating twice, consecutively. He never posted the big year like Leaf (158.7) or Luck (166.1) but never had a down year, either.
NCAA Total
Peyton Manning
43 G/P - 863 Comp - 1381 Att - 62.5% - 11,201 Yds - 89 TD - 33 INT - 6.4 TD% - 2.4 INT% - 260.5 Y/G - 8.1 Y/A - 147.1 Rating

Ryan Leaf
32 G/P - 473 Comp - 880 Att - 53.8% - 7,433 Yds - 59 TD - 24 INT - 6.7 TD% - 2.7 INT% - 232.3 Y/G - 8.4 Y/A - 141.4 Rating

Andrew Luck
24 G/P - 407 Comp - 637 Att - 63.9% - 5,626 Yds - 41 TD - 11 INT - 6.4 TD% - 1.7 INT% - 234.4 Y/G - 8.8 Y/A - 155.9 Rating

So, as the title implies, if this were 1998 and Andrew Luck were declaring for the draft, where would he fall? It's easy to say he gets taken second in hindsight, knowing how both other quarterbacks perform, but what if there were no names attached to these numbers? The way I see it..
Quarterback #1 - Battle tested, consistent.
Quarterback #2 - High risk, high reward.
Quarterback #3 - Accurate, safe.

With names aside, I think the accuracy of QB#3 edges out QB#2 for the second pick but the large, and consistent, body of work of QB#1 keeps him safely in the #1 spot.

So, what do you guys think? Do the stats back-up what the scouts are saying? In a direct comparison, does Luck look more like Manning or Leaf? Notice any similarities that excite or frighten you?

Remember, guys, don't take this too seriously. Everyone knows it's impossible to predict a players success before they actually take a snap in the NFL. It's just a discussion piece.

All stats are from Total Football Stats.

Age / Games Played
Peyton Manning
1994: 18 / 10
1995: 19 / 11
1996: 20 / 11
1997: 21 / 11

Ryan Leaf
1995: 19 / 9
1996: 20 / 11
1997: 21 / 12

Andrew Luck
2009: 19 / 12
2010: 20 / 12

Manning & Leaf both have an edge over Luck in terms of experience, however, if he chooses to enter the league this year he will be doing so with a one year advantage over both of them.
Completions / Attempts
Peyton Manning
1994: 89 / 144
1995: 244 / 380
1996: 243 / 380
1997: 287 / 477

Ryan Leaf
1995: 52 / 97
1996: 194 / 373
1997: 227 / 410

Andrew Luck
2009: 162 / 288
2010: 245 / 349

Luck was never asked to throw as much as either Manning or Leaf, though Manning only completed more passes than Luck once.
Completion Percentage
Peyton Manning
1994: 61.8%
1995: 64.2%
1996: 63.9%
1997: 60.2%

Ryan Leaf
1995: 53.6%
1996: 52.0%
1997: 55.4%

Andrew Luck
2009: 56.3%
2010: 70.2%

Manning and Leaf were both highly consistent with their completion percentages, fluctuating only 4 and 3.4% respectively throughout their college careers, from best-to-worst. Luck's worst surpassed Leaf and his best surpassed even Manning, though two years is hardly enough to make a good judgement out of when you have a 13.9% leap in accuracy.
Yards
Peyton Manning
1994: 1,141
1995: 2,954
1996: 3,287
1997: 3,819

Ryan Leaf
1995: 654
1996: 2,811
1997: 3,968

Andrew Luck
2009: 2,575
2010: 3,051

Leaf just barely managed to out Manning in terms of single season yardage but, overall, this isn't even a close race. Manning leads the pack while Leaf trails and Luck brings up the rear. While Luck has gotten off to a better start in his first two years, if he chooses to enter the draft, they will also be his final two years, which don't fare so well in comparison.
Touchdowns
Peyton Manning
1994: 11
1995: 22
1996: 20
1997: 36

Ryan Leaf
1995: 4
1996: 21
1997: 34

Andrew Luck
2009: 13
2010: 28

The same argument used above could also apply here. While Luck has accumulated more touchdowns in his first two years, he's far behind in total touchdowns (even if only considering the final two years of each) if he chooses to declare now.
Interceptions
Peyton Manning
1994: 6
1995: 4
1996: 12
1997: 11

Ryan Leaf
1995: 1
1996: 12
1997: 11

Andrew Luck
2009: 4
2010: 7

A very close comparison can be made with Manning and Luck here. Leaf is a little further out there. Regardless, numbers such as these are subject to multiple other factors. I find the percentages below much more intriguing.
Touchdown %
Peyton Manning
1994: 7.6%
1995: 5.8%
1996: 5.3%
1997: 7.5%

Ryan Leaf
1995: 4.1%
1996: 5.6%
1997: 8.3%

Andrew Luck
2009: 4.5%
2010: 8.0%

Manning's first and last years were his best in terms of touchdown %, though the two in-between weren't exactly bad. Leaf progressively got better, posting the highest percentage of all three in his final year. Luck, much like with his completion percentage, made an outstanding jump from 2009 to 2010. It's tough to judge such a small sample size, determining which is the rule and which is the exception, while likely impossible at this time, is the key.
Interception %
Peyton Manning
1994: 4.2%
1995: 1.1%
1996: 3.2%
1997: 2.3%

Ryan Leaf
1995: 1.0%
1996: 3.2%
1997: 2.7%

Andrew Luck
2009: 1.4%
2010: 2.0%

Combining these with the touchdown percentages, it's easy to see that all of their best years were their final. The largest margin was posted by Luck, with a 6% difference between his TD% and INT%. I find it interesting that none of them ever posted the same whole percentage twice. Manning posted 1%, 2%, 3%, and 4% in his four years, Leaf 1%, 2%, and 3% in his three years, and Luck 1% and 2% in his two years. Meaningless but something I find amusing nonetheless.
Yards / Game
Peyton Manning
1994: 114.1
1995: 268.5
1996: 298.8
1997: 347.2

Ryan Leaf
1995: 72.7
1996: 255.5
1997: 330.7

Andrew Luck
2009: 214.6
2010: 254.3

Outside of Manning and Leaf's first year each, Luck hasn't been able to surpass them at any point. Manning has a clear lead strictly in terms of yards per game.
Yards / Attempt
Peyton Manning
1994: 7.9
1995: 7.8
1996: 8.7
1997: 8.0

Ryan Leaf
1995: 6.7
1996: 7.5
1997: 9.7

Andrew Luck
2009: 8.9
2010: 8.7

I find it outstanding (and ironic) that Leaf averaged 9.7 yards per attempt in '97. What Leaf lacked, though, was consistency. Over the course of his college career, he averaged only 8 yards per attempt even with the exception in '97. Manning and Luck averaged 8.1 and 8.8 yards per attempt, respectively, in a much more consistent manner.
QB Rating
Peyton Manning
1994: 145.2
1995: 146.5
1996: 147.7
1997: 147.7

Ryan Leaf:
1995: 121.8
1996: 127.5
1997: 158.7

Andrew Luck
2009: 143.5
2010: 166.1

Manning could be considered a role model for consistency here, posting the exact same quarterback rating twice, consecutively. He never posted the big year like Leaf (158.7) or Luck (166.1) but never had a down year, either.
NCAA Total
Peyton Manning
43 G/P - 863 Comp - 1381 Att - 62.5% - 11,201 Yds - 89 TD - 33 INT - 6.4 TD% - 2.4 INT% - 260.5 Y/G - 8.1 Y/A - 147.1 Rating

Ryan Leaf
32 G/P - 473 Comp - 880 Att - 53.8% - 7,433 Yds - 59 TD - 24 INT - 6.7 TD% - 2.7 INT% - 232.3 Y/G - 8.4 Y/A - 141.4 Rating

Andrew Luck
24 G/P - 407 Comp - 637 Att - 63.9% - 5,626 Yds - 41 TD - 11 INT - 6.4 TD% - 1.7 INT% - 234.4 Y/G - 8.8 Y/A - 155.9 Rating

So, as the title implies, if this were 1998 and Andrew Luck were declaring for the draft, where would he fall? It's easy to say he gets taken second in hindsight, knowing how both other quarterbacks perform, but what if there were no names attached to these numbers? The way I see it..
Quarterback #1 - Battle tested, consistent.
Quarterback #2 - High risk, high reward.
Quarterback #3 - Accurate, safe.

With names aside, I think the accuracy of QB#3 edges out QB#2 for the second pick but the large, and consistent, body of work of QB#1 keeps him safely in the #1 spot.

Lets talk Carolina Panthers strategy vs the San Francisco 49'ers

D-Ranged1 — Thu, 21 Oct 2010 04:23:15 -0000

I've seen enough debate these last few days, so lets try something different with this attempt to co-operate.

via www.sfgate.com

We're facing a 1-5 team that I believe is much like our own 0-5 Panthers; a team that "coulda" and "shoulda" but haven't. If some one told me, at the start of the season, the 49'ers would be 1-5 with Frank Gore, Brian Westbrook, Michael Crabtree, Tedd Ginn, Vernon Davis, and adequate quarterback play from Alex Smith when we met in week 7, I'd have definitely taken them up on a bet that they would, in fact, be better than that (much better than that). 3-2, in my mind, would absolutely not have been out of the question.

So, lets take a moment to look at a few quick stat comparisons to think about, then we can talk strategy in the comment section (since, you know, the internet might be the only place Panther strategy is discussed these days) below.

There's no I in TEAM!
Overall, Carolina leads San Francisco 9-7. Our current streak is "W2" dating back to 11/14/2004. We have scored 415 points on the 49'ers since November 5th of '95. Meanwhile, they've scored 377 on us in the same timespan. We have went into overtime twice against them and lost both by field goals.

In 2010... the 49'ers have 1,906 total offensive yards (1,359P/547R), we have 1,180 (682P/498R). They have out-performed us both through the air and on the ground. They amassed those yards on 371 plays, averaging 5.1 yards per play. We gained ours on 296 plays at 4 yards per play, average. The 49'ers have only missed one field goal, as have we, with both teams completing 5 of 6. The 49'ers have scored 11 touchdowns compared to our 5. They ran for 2, passed for 8, and their defense grabbed 1. We have ran for 2 and passed for 3. The 49'ers have allowed their QB to be sacked 12 times, we've allowed ours to be sacked 17 times. They've nearly split their T.O.P evenly with opponents at 29:55, meanwhile we're at 25:53.

I've seen enough debate these last few days, so lets try something different with this attempt to co-operate.

via www.sfgate.com

Looking at the offensive portion of the team comparison would seem to give the edge to the 49'ers, however the defensive side of things may lean towards the Panthers...

The 49'ers defense has allowed opponents 1,874 (1207P/667R) of total offensive yards compared to our defense allowing 1,584 (912P/672R). The 49'ers have given up a total of 14 touchdowns: 3 rushing, 9 passing, and 2 to opposing defenses. The Panthers have allowed 11 touchdowns: 4 rushing and 7 passing. The 49'ers have brought the QB down for a sack 12 times (a sack for a sack?), meanwhile we've only reached the QB and brought him down 7 times this season. The 49'ers have a turn-over ratio of -8 and the Panthers a ratio of -4.

Factor in the bye week the Panthers are coming out of and it looks like it'll just be the bad playing the ugly this Sunday. Neither team has had much cheer for this year but the 49'ers have atleast notched 1 win and found the end zone more than twice as frequently as we have. The bye has just made our statistically bad season look terrible. Compared to the rest of the league...

Points: 30th SF - 32nd CAR
Yards: 19th SF - 32nd CAR
Pass Yds: 15th SF - 32nd CAR
Rush Yds: 28th SF - 20th CAR

Hey, wrong team! (QB)
The 49'ers Alex Smith has completed 134 passes on 223 attempts for 1,425 yards. That gives him an average of 6.4yds per throw and a 60.1 completion percentage. In these passes, 8 went for touchdowns (3.6%) and 9 went for interceptions (4%). His longest pass of the year went for 41 yards. He has taken 12 sacks and lost a total of 66 yards (5.5yds/sack). His QB rating is 73.9.

Our own Matt Moore has completed 25 of 59 pass attempts for 342 yards. That gives him an average of 5.8yds per attempt and a 42.4 completion percentage. Of these, 2 went for touchdowns (3.4%) and 6 went for interceptions (10.2%). His longest pass of the year went for 37 yards. He has taken 8 sacks and lost a total of 59 yards (7.4yds/sack). All of this lends to a QB rating of 33.3.

This one's definitely a bit lopsided in some areas considering Moore hasn't been the solidified starter. I only compared Moore and Smith because Moore is our starting QB this week and, as such, I feel he needs our full support. Despite the drastic difference in attempts, Matt Moore has thrown touchdowns at a similar rate as Smith, both having 3% of their passes find the end zone. The biggest difference I see here is Matts 10%+ interception rate. Lets hope that figure is inflated due to unfavorable (and unlucky) situations.

I give the edge to the 49'ers.

Zoom, zoom, zoom! (HB)
Frank Gore has rushed 116 times this year for 471yds and 1 touchdown. He has an average of 4.1yds per carry and a long of 64. He has also caught 33 receptions for 284 yards and 2 touchdowns. Gore has fumbled the ball 4 times and lost half of those (2). Dixon and Westbrook have accounted for a combined 5 rushes, 20 yards, and 1 touchdown.

DeAngelo Williams has carried the ball 68 times for 317 yards and 1 touchdown. He has an average of 4.7yd per carry and a long of 39 yards. He has caught the ball 7 times for 42 yards and no touchdowns. He hasn't fumbled at all this year.

Jonathan Stewart has carried the ball 36 times for 119 yards and 1 touchdown. He has an average of 3.3yds per attempt and his longest run of the year is 24 yards. Stewart has caught 4 receptions for 77 yards and 1 touchdown. He has fumbled once this year and lost it.

It's no secret here that both teams possess running backs that can single handedly change the course, and outcome, of a game on any given Sunday (or Monday... or Thursday). The biggest difference I see here is systematic. Whether that word means what I think it means or not, I don't know, but it sure sounds good. The 49'ers have their workhorse in Frank Gore, while we're content in running a comittee between DeAngelo Williams and Jonathan Stewart. So, which system will prevail this week?

I don't know, I'm calling it a ~~draw~~.

Fly like a butterfly... (WR)
Frank Gore has 33 receptions for 284 yards, 2 touchdowns, and a long of 41 yards. Vernon Davis has 28 receptions for 348 yards, 3 touchdowns, and a long of 41 yards. Michael Crabtree has 24 receptions for 301 yards, 2 touchdowns, and a long of 32 yards. Josh Morgan has 18 receptions for 204 yards, 1 touchdown, and a long of 35 yards. Vernon Davis appears to be their biggest threat. The rest of their receivers just look like... well, our receivers.

Steve Smith has 13 receptions for 174 yards, 2 touchdowns, and a long of 37 yards. David Gettis has 10 receptions for 119 yards and a long of 21 yards. Dante Rosario has 10 receptions for 92 yards and a long of 26 yards. Mike Goodson has 9 receptions for 111 yards and a long of 23 yards. Steve Smith should return as our biggest threat.

Would you look at that? As far as receptions go, their leading receiver is a running back. Their second leading receiver is a tight end. Finally, their third leading receiver is an actual wide receiver. Maybe we should try that, considering they combined for 7 touchdowns alone. I'm not above short passes and dump offs that "only get a first down".

Once again, I give the 49'ers the edge.

Sting like a bee! (DEF)
Patrick Willis leads the 49'ers defense with 47 combined tackles (38 total/9 assist). Parys Haralson and Travis LaBoy are tied for the lead in sacks, each having 3. Nate Clements, Manny Lawson, Taylor Mays, and Ricky Jean-Francois each have 1 forced fumble. Nate Clements and Shawntae Spencer each have 2 interceptions.

James Anderson leads our defense with 53 combined tackles (38 total/15 assist). Jon Beason leads in assisted tackles with 16 (45 combined). Charles Johnson leads in sacks with 2. James Anderson, Richard Marshall, Sherrod Martin, and Greg Hardy each have 1 forced fumble. Charles Godfrey leads the team in interceptions with 4. We have five other defensive players that have interceptions.

Overall, I think we have the better defense here. I'm giving the edge to Carolina.

The finale...
Now that that's out of the way, we all have a similar picture of what each team has done leading up to this game. As you can see above, I've given the 49'ers the edge 2-1-1. That doesn't mean I don't think we will win this Sunday, it simply means that I believe the 49ers have had a more successful season up until this point than we have.

The point of this FanPost is to hear what you guys think we should do to generate the upperhand on Sunday. I know some of you are good with x's and o's while others may not be but I still want to hear your ideas.

To start things off, here are a couple ideas...

1. Firstly, I think the most obvious thing to do here is put Steve Smith in the slot. Let Gettis, Thomas, Clowney, and LaFell fight it out to see who plays outside but Smith needs to be in the slot. I'd personally have Gettis and Thomas wide with Smith in the slot.

2. Next thing, I would involve Armanti Edwards. I didn't suggest to start him but I'd definitely have him subbing in at each position to see how he fits. I'd even have him in at running back. I know some people don't care for the idea of having Williams and Stewart on the bench at the same time but we haven't exactly been winning with them out there either. Why can't we do this? Because we might lose?

3.While the first two ideas are to get the offense rolling, I'm absolutely going insane to see this next one. I want Charles Johnson and Eric Norwood on the ends, with Greg Hardy and Derek Landri as the two defensive tackles. Everette Brown has completely let me down thus far this year, I'm ready to see Norwood step in his place. Johnson has been playing well enough that I couldn't pull him off the line. That leaves the defensive tackles. Landri has impressed me and I don't think Ed Johnson has been bad but I believe Hardy is a beast that needs to be on the field. I'm completely sold that Hardy can pressure the QB and flatten the RB on his way, if need be, from any position on the line. I think this would definitely help our defense generate sacks without compromising our ability to stop the run.

Those are but a few of my ideas, so lets hear it guys! What would you do to get an upperhand on the 49'ers and kick start our season?

Madden Week 3 Update: No love for the Panthers

D-Ranged1 — Thu, 23 Sep 2010 22:05:11 -0000

Can we blame them? I've been frightened to see how our recent play would affect our roster and, finally, here it is. To be honest, it's less severe than I had expected and pretty well reflective of our team, which is bad. Updates concerning the Panthers below...

TEAM Carolina Panthers - Decrease, from 75 to 73OVR
What can you say? We had it coming this week.
QB Matt Moore - Decrease, from 74 to 72OVR
QB Jimmy Clausen - Moved to QB #1 on depth chart
With two bad games and losing the starting job, I really thought they were going to do more damage to Moore than just 2 points. I was expecting to see a drop to around 68-70. Lets hope for a Clausen boost in the next update.
WR Armanti Edwards - Decrease, from 65 to 63OVR
WR Brandon LaFell - Decrease, from 68 to 66OVR
WR Dwayne Jarrett - Decrease, from 68 to 66OVR
WR David Gettis - Increase, from 59 to 63OVR
WR Steve Smith - Increase, from 93 to 94OVR
Little production for Edwards, LaFell, and Jarrett = minor drops, as expected. Nice boost for Gettis. The homer in me still believes Smith is slightly low at 94.
HB Jonathan Stewart - Decrease, from 87 to 86OVR
HB DeAngelo Williams - Increase, from 92 to 93OVR
HB Mike Goodson - Increase, from 67 to 68OVR
Glad to see Goodson got a small boost, very surprised Stewart went down while Williams went up. I would've thought just opposite.
OL Ryan Kalil - Decrease, from 90 to 89OVR
Really? All of the bad offensive line play we've had lately and Kalil is the only one that goes down? Is that good or bad?
DL Nick Hayden - Decrease, from 65 to 64OVR
DL Derek Landri - Increase, from 65 to 73OVR
DL Greg Hardy - Increase, from 68 to 71OVR
DL Ed Johnson - Increase, from 75 to 78OVR
DL Charles Johnson - Increase, from 79 to 81OVR
If Hardy continues to get these boosts every update, he'll our #1 DL shortly.
MLB Dan Connor - Increase, from 73 to 75OVR
OLB Jon Beason - Increase, from 97 to 98OVR
The Beast gets more beastly and Connor gets a nice bump.
CB Chris Gamble - Decrease, from 90 to 89OVR
Similar to the OL situation, bad play from everyone and Gamble is the only one to see a decrease? Odd.

In all, I can't complain about these changes. The decreases, for the most part, all seem warranted and the increases on some are nice to see. The Stewart/Williams situation is the only one I don't understand. Any thoughts Madden faithful?

Poll

Were the Week 3 rating adjustments fair to the Panthers?

Yes, they nailed it.

3 votes

Eh, they were close enough.

32 votes

No, too many increases.

3 votes

No, too many decreases.

4 votes

42 votes | Poll has closed

Take a moment to reflect on what was #43, Panthers Strong Safety Chris Harris.

D-Ranged1 — Wed, 28 Apr 2010 21:00:04 -0000

Take a moment to reflect on what was #43, Panthers Strong Safety Chris Harris.

Influence the Panthers rookie ratings in Madden 11!

D-Ranged1 — Sun, 25 Apr 2010 06:31:06 -0000

Influence the Panthers rookie ratings in Madden 11!

Just go to the link provided and you can modify the stats of every rookie taken in the NFL draft*. The fan ratings are then averaged and set as the final ratings.

*Currently only rookies available are from rounds 1-3. Don't know when or if rounds 4-7 will be added.

PS. added the * instead of just saying "rounds 1-3" because I felt like it... And it seemed to fit Madden so much better than just being... well... straight forward and honest.

My 2010 Draft Grade (As inspired by Jaxon's post)

D-Ranged1 — Sun, 25 Apr 2010 05:49:24 -0000

Alright guys, this started out as a simple reply to Jaxon's Draft Grade post found here. However, upon finishing it, I realized I didn't want to be a jackass that leaves a 4 page comment that everyone has to stroll through just to get to the comments below (assuming you're not using the holy Z method) every time they go back to the post. So, I figured I'd just copy and paste it right over to a FanPost. Here we go...

What kind of expectations do you guys have with these B and C draft ratings? Considering the picks we had (lack of first rounder), and the kind of turn-out we were expecting, we made out like absolute effing bandits.

Jimmy Clausen - I've grown to this pick over the course of the day. I literally thought about it all day at work. We are stacked at QB now. Imagine this..

Scenario A) Say Moore ends up our starter this year and does a great job. Clausen and Pike sit behind him and learn for a year which is, in my opinion, the best thing a rookie QB can do. Once the season ends, Moore demands a very large contract due to his newly found value (especially with that Super Bowl win under his belt). So what do we do? We either sign'em and trade'em or we let him walk because we've got two cheap franchise-worthy QB's sitting in the shadows that aren't ~~rookies~~.. We win for many years to come.

Scenario B) We determine a starter that finds himself on IR in week 3, we've still got two very capable QB's ready to step up and take the reigns. We, once again, win.

Scenario C) We trade one for a high round pick next year and still maintain two capable QB's. For a third time, we win.

I think those three should be enough to see why we took both Clausen and Pike. Not to mention, we should see an increase in recognition from the talking heads. Rather we as fans deem that to be good or bad, it can only be good from a business perspective. More attention means more spotlight (generally) means more revenue and a possibility to flex into prime time so all of us can actually see a Panther game. In fact, according to NFLDraftScout.com player ratings (updated 4/22), we claimed ourselves TWO of the top FIVE rated QB's in the draft WITHOUT spending first round money. Are you crazy? If not, I must be.

Jimmy Clausen - I've grown to this pick over the course of the day. I literally thought about it all day at work. We are stacked at QB now. Imagine this..

Scenario B) We determine a starter that finds himself on IR in week 3, we've still got two very capable QB's ready to step up and take the reigns. We, once again, win.

Scenario C) We trade one for a high round pick next year and still maintain two capable QB's. For a third time, we win.

Brandon LaFell - For us, he's Moose V2.0, what more do you want? For the rest of the world (Well, that's a lie. NFLDraftScout.com to be exact), he's Anquan Boldin V2.0. There has been a ton of talk about replacing Moose and there was a ton of displeasure when we didn't make a move for Boldin - well, guess what? We just potentially (and I say 'potentially' as a good thing, not bad, as potential is the only thing any draft pick currently has) killed both discussions with one pick in the third round. Lets just take a look at some of the ~~brown~~ golden nuggets found in his analysis on NFLDraftScout.com...

"Accelerates smoothly to challenge deep despite only marginal top-end speed."

"Can snatch the ball out of the air outside of his frame... Typically secures the ball quickly and looks to gain additional yardage."

"...a good route-runner with the body control to sink his hips and generate burst out of his breaks to gain separation. Very effective post and slant route-runner."

"Good vision and burst to gain yardage after the catch... Courageous going over the middle and fights for every ball thrown his way. Takes a hit and hangs on to the ball."

"Seems to take pride in his ability to keep his assignment from making the tackle. Looks to escort his teammate downfield if he breaks into the open."

(Note: I wonder how many times we'll be seeing him escort D-Will or J-Stew this year? I'd bet a lot.)

"Prototypical build for an NFL receiver. Long-armed, muscled up frame."

Did I mention we got him in the third round, after a franchise QB in the second? Yeah, that's pretty effing awesome in my book.

Armanti Edwards - Who else did we nab in the third? Oh yeah, that's right, seemingly a CSR fan-favorite (I know I certainly wanted him, I projected him to go in the 6th/7th though, how foolish I was! Apparently he wasn't our little secret after all.) Let's see.. Armanti could potentially take the field at... QB... WR... HB... KR... PR... Am I forgetting anything? Oh yeah, that's right, he's probably the most dangerous threat in the wildcat that the NFL has seen to date. Allow me to quote a song I used to love listening to.. only modified... "[We] started this [wildcat] sh*t... and this the muthaf*ckin' thanks [we] get?". I'm going to put my faith in the coaching staff and believe that they plan to fully utilize the talent we just landed ourselves. I could go on about Armanti but I truly believe there's only one thing that really need be said. Put this guy on the practice field with Steve Smith and you will soon see that a beast is born. I wouldn't be surprised to see Smith take Armanti under his wing, at all, due to their similar smurfitus status. Just remember, our smurfs will dominate you.

PS. if you've seen Panthers.com, you know Edwards and LaFell are already in Charlotte getting ready for the season. Eager much?

Eric Norwood - My personal favorite pick of the draft. I, along with many others, have been calling for him for months now. Paired with Beason and Davis, we will have an incredible trio of linebackers on field. Honestly, I expect this guy to take the starting position right out of the hands of Connor and Anderson. Why? Because I'd expect him to take it out of the hands of Diggs or Johnson as well, if they were still here. Norwood is a beast that only need learn the ways of the NFL before becoming a force. Carolina is shaping a defense ready to fight for the title of "Best in the NFL" and Norwood will be an integral part of that as he learns the system. I have to utmost confidence in Meeks to get the very best out of Norwood, as he does all of our other defensive players. The complete lack of attention the defensive tackle position got leads me to believe Meeks is satisfied as-is, which is a good thing. Norwood could also effectively play defensive end if Meeks sees fit, or if something terrible were to happen at the position. He's roughly the same size as Everette Brown. The fact that we got him in the 4th is incredible as it was nothing but a far fetched fantasy of mine before today. Analysis found here.

"High-effort defender and leader on and off the field. Voted team captain for the 2009 season."

We like those guys. I'm already laying out #90 for him, to be everything that other guy couldn't have been bothered to be. I still have issues comprehending that Eric Norwood is a freakin' Panther.

Greg Hardy - Very solid pick here in the 6th round. Yes, the same Greg Hardy that NFLDraftScout.com projected to go as early as the 3rd fell to us in the 6th. Was that not the story of our entire draft? Lets see what was said about this guy...

"Rare athleticism for the position. Actually used as a wide receiver early in his career and had three receiving touchdowns."

"Rangy defender who can break down in space and make the secure tackle."

"Strength: A vastly underrated component of Hardy's effectiveness as a pass rusher. Good upper-body strength to disengage from the pass blocker. Good strength for the bull rush. Good leverage and leg drive to anchor when necessary."

"Good lateral agility to beat the tackle outside and force the sweep wide. Good strength and use of leverage to control the tackle. Feels the cut block coming and sprawls effectively to protect his legs and maintain his balance. Good effort and closing speed behind the line of scrimmage."

Oh, and for an NFL comparison? None other than...

"NFL Comparison: Julius Peppers, Bears"

So is that other guy going to be missed? No, I don't believe so - not at all. Give Hardy some time in an NFL caliber training program, adequate time to adjust to the pro's, and he might just find himself opposite Everette Brown as the season goes on. Projecting a 6th rounder may see starting snaps in his rookie year - crazy right? Yeah, well, this entire draft was crazy.

David Gettis - A WR that leads me to believe we are drafting off of facial features as he shares nearly the exact same haircut/beard as LaFell. Regardless, an extremely sound pick for a 6th rounder. He's slightly bigger than LaFell, and slightly quicker in a straight line, Gettis is one of the two players my mock hit in the right round (He in the 6th and Norwood in the 4th; I had Armanti pegged but on the complete wrong side of the draft). I bet you know where this link goes.

"Has moves and strength to get past press coverage, but must be more quick and violent with his hands to beat the jam. Accelerates quickly off the line and gets past most corners with his long strides."

Is there really any better teammate in the NFL than Steve Smith to have when being 'violent' is your problem? Well, I should add, any better teammate that likely won't get you suspended (anymore)? Let Steve share some knowledge with the guy on how to make the ball 'his' and I think this problem disappears.

"Catches nearly everything thrown his way, but traps the ball against his chest too often; needs to trust his large and strong hands and catch the ball away from his frame. Extends to grab wide throws and reaches above his head to snare high throws, exhibiting good body control in the air."

A negative and a positive, though I'm focusing on the negative this time. It definitely seems, to me, like a problem correctable by our coaching staff which, I guess, is a positive, right?

"Uses his size and length to get physical separation, and his long strides are hard for corners to match when running full tilt down the sideline. Sells the deep route, but has better foot quickness than expected for his size when stopping to curl or turn outside."

"Possesses acceleration and elusiveness not expected of large receivers. Also able to stiff arm and run through smaller would-be tacklers in the secondary."

"Uses his size to neutralize corners in the run game or on quick screens, dropping his hips and extending to keep them from ripping off."

And we got this guy in the sixth round? Really? A 6'3, 217lb receiver with good hands that can block and runs a low 4.4 40? Maybe that sounds normal to some but it sounds like a ridiculous deal right before the 200's to me. I'm surprised Oakland didn't snatch this guy up for his size/speed combo.

Tony Pike - I know I skipped a pick here but, really, the other guys seem to all have been drafted with the same thing in mind. Pike was our last 6th round pick and rated by NFLDraftScout.com as the 5th best QB in the draft. Why did he fall to us that late? Eff if I know! Lets get right into the analysis of this guy...

"Smooth, accurate throws to either sideline. On the money with slants, giving receivers a chance to make a play after the catch. Puts good air under the deep ball when the receiver is behind his man and calmly throws to the wide open man with a little off the ball when defenders fall down. Makes the behind-the-shoulder throw when needed. Places end zone throws where only his receiver can make the play. Accurate with a defender draped on him."

"Average to above-average arm. Typically throws with seemingly little effort but recognizes when he really needs to step into one. Throws outs to the short or far side with plenty of strength. Tight spiral on most passes, but will wobble a bit when putting air under the throw."

"Usually works out of the shotgun, but is also poised taking the snap under center. Agile coming out from the snap to hand off despite his height. Stands tall (literally and figuratively) and carries the ball well in the pocket. Quiet feet and shows good balance when not pressured, but tends to get skittish and leave the pocket unnecessarily. Mostly over the top with his delivery with nice follow through to ensure accuracy. Drops his arm into a three-quarters slot when the time is right. Steps up into the pocket, keeps his eyes downfield and deliver."

"Recognizes defense's weakness and exploits it."

"Unexpected mobility for his size. Some elusiveness in the pocket and in the open field... Doesn't go down as easily as you would think given his lean frame; able to step away from players falling at his feet or trying to cut tackle him. Feels back-side pressure and capable of staying ahead of quick defenders to get the ball away. Will slide when prudent, although it is a bit awkward because of his height. Makes accurate short, intermediate and deep throws running to either his left or right, keeping his shoulders square while moving down the line."

"Strong competitor; no problems with his work ethic or ability to run an NFL offense."

Obviously I only focused on the positives there... Why? Because that's an absolute sh*tload of positives for the 204th overall pick. I think I'm going to wake up and realize it was all a dream now...

Jordan Pugh, RJ Stanford, Robert Mcclain - Of all of our fantastic picks, these seem to be the questionable ones. Why? I don't know, maybe getting 6 rounds of amazing deals/steals made people a little overly optimistic about the final round. What do you expect from 6th/7th round players? Let us remember that Pike (and possibly Gettis) are exceptions and not the rule. I thought a 7th rounder that even sees the field was a pretty good pick. Apparently not by some standards. Regardless, I think all of these guys were picked for a reason - not just a shot in the dark. They're all quick, athletic players that will add a ton of speed to our special teams. Who knows, one may end up developing into a starting or back-up caliber CB for us but I don't see that as being the reason we drafted these guys at all. We've already made small moves leading up to the draft to shore up our atrocious special teams unit from last year, I think these picks just cemented it a little bit. We're getting guys that can get down field fast and make the tackle and hopefully some guys that can get in the way on returns. If these guys can improve our special teams this year (or in the future), I call the end of this draft a success.

Final Grade: F (For Fanf*ckingtastic)
(Real Grade: A+)

Sorry - is my enthusiasm showing? What about the alcohol?

Is It Too Early? (For A Draft Day Wish?)

D-Ranged1 — Mon, 19 Apr 2010 07:23:45 -0000

Really? Too soon? Regardless, I'll continue to cross my fingers and hope. He'd fit in that #90 jersey so well, we wouldn't even remember that other guy, Hoolio Salty.

Now, in an effort to make this post not completely useless, I'll list out my final mock for you guys below.

I won't bother with the long, drawn out reasons why we should draft these guys because most of the prospects have been debated so much I'm sure all of you already have your own opinions. They've already been ripped apart, all that's left is to pick a few names out of the hat.

Round 2; Pick #48 - DE Corey Wootton
Round 3; Pick #79 - CB Akwasi Owusu-Ansah
Round 4; Pick #113 - OLB/DE Eric Norwood
Round 6; Pick #176 - WR Marcus Easley
Round 6; Pick #203 - WR David Gettis
Round 6; Pick #205 - DT Nick Collins
Round 7; Pick #224 - CB Jamar Wall
Round 7; Pick #250 - QB Armanti Edwards

That's it! Final answer. No more changes. I plan to follow my top 3 selections through-out the season and see how they stack up in the NFL. Come next February, we'll know if I'm 'd-ranged1' or just '1idiot' ;).

For any one wondering why I've got 2 corner backs listed when it isn't even a position of need, I feel A.O.A is just too good of a talent to pass on, meanwhile Jamar Wall looks like an excellent special teams addition.

A D-ranged Panthers Mock: Final Version

D-Ranged1 — Thu, 01 Apr 2010 23:32:58 -0000

Alright, guys, I've had a few weeks to adjust my personal Panther mock and I'm finally back with the final version! Quite a few changes here as I realized I had been going about it in completely the wrong manner (at least, in my opinion)! Every team focuses on filling needs through free agency and the draft. Well, you know what? Just like they did with free agency, I believe the Panthers say 'F-THAT'! You can't win in the NFL by following the same old formula year in, year out. The Panthers realize this and that is why I believe the draft is going to be as follows..

Round 2: RB - Montario Hardesty
Lets face it, Carolina is a run first team! Running is what we do, it is what we live by and what we die by. As we learned in 2004, you can never have too many running backs! What really seals this deal though? The fact that he was born and raised in New Bern, NC! A big, home-grown power back with deceptive speed, I'm predicting Montario finds his way to third string back by the end of the pre-season, behind Williams and Stewart, meanwhile ahead of Sutton and Goodson.

Round 3: QB - Jarrett Brown
With the still unproven Matt Moore primed to take the helm, we need a QB that can come in and immediately pressure him for the starting spot. I'm confident that Jarrett Brown would be an absolute steal in the third round. A young QB that's able to tuck the ball, get down field, and deliver a big hit to gain the first down, if necessary, is exactly what we need on this team to compliment our running back army.

Round 4: K - Alex Steigerwald
It's no secret that Baker is getting up there in age. With the release of Rhys Lloyd, the Panthers now find themselves in need of a replacement. Alex has a strong leg with good accuracy but, more importantly, has the speed to tuck the ball on a fake field goal attempt and run like hell for that first down. We're talking turning three points into six, possibly seven here. I just can't bring myself to pass on this guy any longer, he's coming to Carolina in the fourth!

Round 6: WR - Kelton Tindal
Steve Smith says we need another receiving threat on this team?! Alright, Smitty, take this one! Don't blame me if you find yourself drifting down the depth chart behind this guy, though, you asked for it! With our first sixth round selection, we're going after Newberry wide receiver Kelton Tindal. The guy is big, the guy is fast, and he had a 76 yard touchdown run in 2006. He'll be fantastic for us on the end-around. I'm telling you, defenses just won't know who to defend!

Round 6: ILB - Jacob Cutrera
Eventual replacement for Beason, meanwhile we could try him out at running back.

Round 6: TE - Matt Kushner
Coming from N.C. State at 6'4, 265lbs, Matt is a big boy, and you can never have too many big bodies between our running backs and opposing teams defenders! Kushner will be a perfect fit for the new Aussie formation they're planning to roll out next year.

Round 7: DT - Kendrick Stewart
Some argue that DT may be our most pressing need this year but I must disagree. I think this seventh round diamond-in-the-rough is all that we need to plug up that hole! Although only 6'2, 271lbs, this monster benches 465 pounds! That's almost like picking up Kris Jenkins! We could also plug him in at fullback and let him pick up incoming blitzers... and I do most literally mean pick up.

I've compiled all highlights here for easy viewing.

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A D-Ranged Panthers Mock V3

D-Ranged1 — Wed, 03 Mar 2010 02:50:18 -0000

I out-lined my initial interest in draft picks back at the beginning of January, here. I then made my first revision shortly thereafter. As it turns out, over a month later, no one was safe - well, actually, there was one; you'll see who that is soon enough. Rather than attempt to write up a paragraph for each player convincing you guys why I believe we should choose said player, I'll instead attempt to find highlight videos to let you see for yourself, and then see if we agree.

As with my first post, I only drafted players in their projected round per NFLDraftScout.com. Based off of the information provided, I took no "stretches" and like-wise assume none rise.

Shall we proceed?

(The following picks are made with the ~~assumption~~ hope that we receive a 5th, 6th, and 7th in compensation picks. If we do not receive said comp picks, ~~this list is screwed~~.)

2. WR - Taylor Price
Highs and lows.

WR Taylor Price vs Tennessee Volunteers 2009 (via ckparrothead)

3. OLB - Eric Norwood
It's no secret that I want this guy.

Eric Norwood profile (via GamecocksOnline)

4. DE - Willie Young
I can't find any highlights, though NFLDraftScout.com's analysis is right here.

via media.scout.com

5. DT - Vince Oghobaase
More highs and lows, this time it's Oghobaase.

DT Vince Oghobaase Highlights/Lowlights 2009/2008 Duke (via ProDraftParty)

6. WR - Marcus Easley
Another with no highlight video, that I could find. Analysis here.

via www.collegefanz.com

6. WR - Trindon Holiday
The little speedster and the only player to survive from my original list.

trindon holliday highlights (via francis2ndhalf)

7. QB - Thaddeus Lewis
And the first QB taken...

Thaddeus Lewis TD to Conner Vernon (via ChronicleSports)

(Analysis here being the video is only one pass)

7. QB - Armanti Edwards
And the second QB...

The Armanti Edwards Show Against Richmond - Dec 7th 2007 (via BXSportsCenter)

Two QB's in the seventh round? Yes, that's why I'm called 'D-ranged1'. However, along with three receivers, a defensive end, defensive tackle, and a linebacker, it should, in my mind, tighten all of the loose ends we may encounter.

Thoughts, anyone?

The South Rules the NFC

D-Ranged1 — Tue, 23 Feb 2010 00:50:46 -0000

The South Rules the NFC

Of course, that much we already knew. The individual 'pieces' of info are nice, though. Especially...

"Carolina's 76 victories since realignment are the most in the division and seventh most in the NFL. Until last season, the Panthers had never finished below second in the division. They are one of only four teams since realignment -- and the only one in the NFC -- that has won at least seven games every season. The others form pretty good company: Indianapolis, New England and Denver."

Chris Harris leads DB's in forced fumbles the past 3 years

D-Ranged1 — Sat, 20 Feb 2010 19:03:26 -0000

Chris Harris leads DB's in forced fumbles the past 3 years

That's why we call him the HITMAN.

Wave If You Wanna...

D-Ranged1 — Sun, 24 Jan 2010 15:24:29 -0000

Wave if you wanna..
Wa-wave if you wanna..
Wave if you wanna..
Wa-Wave if you wanna..

Ok, so that's not exactly how the song goes but, regardless, I've got a few Google Wave invites to share and there's no better place than with my fellow CSR-igans. If you're interested you can send me an email @ Dranged169[AT]gmail[DOT]com to avoid posting your e-mail here (Argh! Ye evil bots to death with ye).

Include your CSR username (I'll only be sending invites to users with more than 50 comments, HOWEVER, anyone that may read these forums and not comment, or just doesn't have that many comments yet, go ahead & join up with us. I'll gladly send an invite over in the future, once you reach 50, just remember to email me at the address above and let me know!)

I've had trouble deciding rather to use a first come, first serve method or not. I am not and I am. With that said, just include your predictions (Winner/Loser, don't worry about the score) for todays set of games and if you're right, an invite is headed your way. If the winners exceed my number of invites, they will be sent in a first come, first serve method. If they do not, those who went 50/50 will receive the remaining invites through the same method. As you can probably figure by now, if I still have some left over after those two are out of the way, those who were completely wrong will also receive invites :).

Also, if you want the invite sent to a different email address than the one you email me from, please include the alt. email (obviously).

So lets recap...
CSR Username (50+ posts)
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Jimmie Johnson: Carolina needs Vick

D-Ranged1 — Tue, 19 Jan 2010 04:09:00 -0000

Jimmie Johnson: Carolina needs Vick

You may have caught it, Jimmie Johnson speaking on Michael Vick during the pre-game show last weekend. Apparently, Carolina is the place for Vick and we "need him desperately".

No, Jimmie, just no.

A D-Ranged Panther Draft Evaluation (Revision)

D-Ranged1 — Tue, 19 Jan 2010 00:59:11 -0000

I'm sure a few of you remember my original 'evaluation' here. After some CSR discussion and thought, I've decided upon my first revision. Instead of listing out the whole spill again, I'll simply provide a look at the former chosen player as well as the player whom I will be replacing him with.

Let us start with the player being replaced, projected 4th rounder Akwasi...

Round 4, Pick #3: Akwasi Owusu-Ansah - 6'1 - 195lbs - CB - Indiana (Pa.) (Projected Round:3-4)
WTF?!: Now I bet you're really wondering what I'm smokin'. Three picks and only one position drafted that we actually need. I know, just hang with me. Sadly, our "shutdown corner" is the worst coverage player on our entire team. At least he's good against the run though... Despite the fact that we're stuck with him , I would still pick up Akwasi, if available in the fourth. I believe he greatly improves our secondary as he settles down in the NFL. I am unable to find any highlight videos, if anyone knows of any, please do share.

Good-bye Akwasi. I am currently seeing other draft choices behind your back, have a nice life - and take your dog. Hello, Jared.

Round 4, Pick #3: Jared Veldheer - 6'8 - 321lbs - OT - Somewhere in Michigan (Projected Round: 4-5)
WTF?!: CSR meet Jared, cousin of Jason... Voorhees. Jared is a ~~big~~ giant man. Really, try to find Williams or Stewart behind him. I'll wait while you circle the mountain. By the time you get there, however, either aforementioned running back will be in the end zone. Don't count on your teammates in the secondary stopping him either, Steve Smith has already taken care of all of them. Don't believe me? Consult the rules and regulations. Veldheer has one of the quicker 40 times in the draft (according to NFLDraftScout.com) among OT's, meanwhile you can watch him lift 425lbs here.

I also strongly considered OG Brandon Carter as my fourth rounder but ended up with Veldheer. Thoughts and opinions?

"...WR coach Richard Williamson retrires. Been with them from start." Per Darin Gantt on...

D-Ranged1 — Mon, 18 Jan 2010 20:59:44 -0000

"...WR coach Richard Williamson retrires. Been with them from start."

Per Darin Gantt on Twitter.com

http://twitter.com/daringantt

A 'D-Ranged' Panthers Draft Evaluation (Early Version)

D-Ranged1 — Tue, 05 Jan 2010 04:43:14 -0000

D-ranged being interchangeable with uneducated, in this case. However, with some research and a couple links provided by MP, I've came to a conclusion on an early (shall we call it pre-alpha?) list. It's quite surprising, for me, as initially listing needed positions (without names) differed pretty noticeably from the positions I ended up with.

I went by pretty basic stats to begin with, though I'll be researching these players further as I list them out. I chose to do this purposefully. Why? Because I see it as a learning opportunity for myself and am interested in seeing how much changes from now until the final version.

Speaking of final version, there's another reason I am doing this so early (the draft being, what, roughly 3 1/2 months away?). That being: plenty of time for revision as you guys whip me into shape and inform me of just how terrible my picks are ;).

So, without further ado, please do enter my mind of madness...

All information courtesy NFLDraftScout.com's Prospect Ratings. All picks are projected to be available in the said round, I didn't venture too far off as I certainly don't consider myself qualified to guess who will fall or rise.

Round 2, Pick #1: Eric Norwood - 6'1 - 252lbs - OLB - South Carolina (Projected Round: 2-3)
WTF?!: I know, I know. Of all our needs, why am I taking an OLB with our first pick? Norwood was mentioned in another draft-related fanpost which initially led to me researching him. After reading up on him and looking at a few of his highlight videos, I'm pretty impressed. Don't get me wrong, I've enjoyed the play of our back-up linebackers but I feel inserting Norwood in with Davis and Beason would be a beastly trio. If Norwood gets up to NFL speed quickly, I'd love to see him compete with Diggs during his rookie year. Also, considering Diggs is entering the final year of his contract, that makes Norwood even more valuable in my mind. Anderson, Connor, Culberson, Senn, and Ivy would stay as back-ups and ST players (assuming the last few stick around). I, for the life of me, cannot find the original highlight video I watched, however I did find this one. It's not as good as the other but, I suppose, it'll suffice.

Round 3, Pick #2: Danario Alexander - 6'5 - 210lbs - WR - Missouri (Projected Round: 3)
WTF?!: At least I address a needed position here. Danario is a big guy, like Jarrett, only faster. I pick him here in hopes that he replaces not only Jarrett but Moose as well; two birds, one stone. Currently ranked the 8th best WR in the draft, he should hopefully be available to us in the 3rd due to an injury tattered college career, topped off only by a break-out performance in his final year. I could easily see Danario as the big, big play maker opposite of the little, big play maker, Smith. Assuming Moose stays, he could be a great NFL mentor given the similar size. He's definitely a chance in terms of injury, but risk equals reward and he's a risk I'll take (and that very risk is the reason why I believe we can get him). You can take your pick of highlight videos here.

Round 4, Pick #3: Akwasi Owusu-Ansah - 6'1 - 195lbs - CB - Indiana (Pa.) (Projected Round: 3-4)
WTF?!: Now I bet you're really wondering what I'm smokin'. Three picks and only one position drafted that we actually need. I know, just hang with me. Sadly, our "shutdown corner" is the worst coverage player on our entire team. At least he's good against the run though... Despite the fact that we're stuck with him (I certainly wouldn't mind trading him for some picks, if we could get it. Seems unlikely with that fat salary, though. Anyone care to correct me and raise my spirits that we could get rid of him?), I would still pick up Akwasi, if available in the fourth. I believe he greatly improves our secondary as he settles down in the NFL. I am unable to find any highlight videos, if anyone knows of any, please do share.

Round 6, Pick #4: Joe Webb - 6'4 - 220lbs - QB - UAB (Projected Round: 7)
WTF?!: Not only did I wait until round 6 to go after a QB but I'm taking him a round earlier than is currently projected. Some people suggest we sign a free agent like, say, Michael Vick, because of his ability to run. Others say someone along the lines of Jason Campbell, whom seems to be a decent QB on a terrible team. Oh, he's also pretty nice on his feet. Joe Webb finished off his college career by becoming the first player in NCAA history to post back-to-back seasons with both 2,000+ passing yards and 1,000+ rushing yards. He may not be as fast as Vick was in his prime but I don't believe we need that much speed under center (at least, if it's at the expense of accuracy). His 40 time is slightly faster than that of Jason Campbell. Sadly, I can only find a single video of one pass. If anyone finds more, please share.

Round 7, Pick #5: Trindon Holliday - 5'5 - 164lbs - WR - LSU (Projected Round: 7-FA)
WTF?!: By this time, we're deep in bust territory. I don't know if that's a good thing or bad. For one, I have an excuse if the guy never makes it in the NFL. On the other hand, that's still a wasted pick. Ah, to hell with it - I'm going with Holliday. Billed as the fastest WR/RB in the draft (of players with a 40 listed), I sadly don't see this guy seeing any time at either position in the pro's. Add a couple of inches and Smitty might make me might consider it. However, what I do see is a guy blowing past defenders on punt returns and kick off's. Everyone knows we need a spark and Holliday may just be a flamethrower (okay, disposable lighter). Still, I see no reason not to pick up a speedster in the last round to boost our return game. Our offense will be that much more deadly working on short fields in 2010. See if you can spot the guy Holliday runs by before he even realizes it.

Alternatives: WR Riley Cooper; WR Brandon Banks; QB Bill Stull; QB Armanti Edwards; QB Thaddeus Lewis.

DeAngelo Williams: A 5 Star Rusher?

D-Ranged1 — Sun, 27 Dec 2009 04:36:40 -0000

It occurred to me that DeAngelo Williams is approaching a milestone that, I believe, few running backs in the NFL have achieved. In two weeks, DeAngelo Williams is going to register his third straight season with an average of 5 yards per carry or higher, while surpassing 100 carries each season.

Some of you probably already know that I put a lot of worth into a players yards/carry average. I feel a players season average is the ultimate form of performance consistency in terms of moving chains. I know some disagree and find it a dismissal stat but, by the time a running back hits, roughly, 100+ carries for the season, I see no way that an average can be a 'fluke'. I could take a paragraph or five to explain why I think a players season average is so important but that's not the point of this post. You've all already got opinions and thus those opinions will determine exactly what this means to you.

Might I mention, this is a learning experience for me as well. I'm doing research as I type this to get a list of comparison players whom have averaged over 5 yards per carry for three or more straight seasons with more than 100 carries per season. Feel free to add any players I miss in the comments, this list is and will be far from conclusive. I'm creating it simply for comparison.

Being this feat seems to go unnoticed, though is accomplished rarely, I've given it my own term: 5 Star Rusher. I'll start with the criteria while further explanation will be at the bottom of the post for those wondering how I came about choosing those numbers.

The Criteria:
5+ Yards/Carry Avg. per Season
100+ Carries per Season
3+ Consecutive Seasons

5 Star Rushers:
Jim Brown
1963 - 1965: 6.4 | 5.2 | 5.3

Marshall Faulk
1999 - 2001: 5.5 | 5.4 | 5.3

DeAngelo Williams
2007 - 2009: 5.0 | 5.5 | 5.2

Worth A Mention:
Joe Perry broke a 5 yard average 6 times in his career but never got 3 consecutively.
Tiki Barber posted back-to-back seasons with more than 5 yards per carry before retiring.
Michael Turner posted averages above 5 yards in his first three seasons in San Diego but didn't have the carries to back it up (totaling an estimated 150 carries in 3 years).
Jamaal Charles is two weeks away from posting his second consecutive year with a 5+ average.
Ahmad Bradshaw carried high averages in his first two years on few carries but currently falls .1 yard short in his first season carrying the ball 100+ times.
Jerome Harrison is similar with his previous two seasons low on carries, high on averages. Currently, he is .2yds shy in his first 100+ carry season.
Corell Buckhalter fell just .1 yard shy last season of 5.0. That would have given him three consecutive seasons, though this is his first 100+ carry season.
Felix Jones currently carries a high average for both of his seasons, though has not yet eclipsed 100 carries.
Tashard Choice also carries a high average over his two seasons but has yet to reach 100 carries.

Guys That Haven't Made It:
The other 42 players on this list among countless others.

Conclusion:
Outside of the very few mentioned (of all the names I could think of and all the lists I could find, I only found three!), I've had quite some trouble finding other backs that have achieved '5 Star Rusher' status. I had to include the 'mentions' just to give a bit more comparison and, even then, they are backs that haven't quite 'proven' themselves, have fallen short when given the chance, or for some other reason didn't make it and could be considered on a lower scale.

So this is where I need help from some of you statistical junkies. My mind can't compile all of the great runners the NFL has seen over the years so if you know of some that are '5 Star Rushers', add them in the comment section!

So, in conclusion, DeAngelo Williams could be about to make history (pending these next two games) in the NFL without it even being realized. C'mon, can't we get that on TV instead of Favre, Brady, and Manning? Of course not!

Criteria Explanation:
Why 5 yards per carry? Because the bar has to be set somewhere. Considering I've yet to discover a running back with consecutive seasons surpassing a 6 yard per carry average and it's nearly common to break 4, 5 seems to be the 'bar' set by history. When a someone does post a 6 yard average 3 years in a row with 100 or more carries each year, I suppose the bar will be raised.

Why 3 years? I've also yet to discover a running back that posted 5 yards per carry for more than three years while, of course, amassing 100 or more carries each season. When a back does it four years in a row, once again, the bar will be raised. Could DeAngelo be the one to raise that bar? I guess we'll find out next year.

Why 100 carries? Once again, it seemed to be the logical step. While I seen quite a few backs surpass a 5 yard average with less than a 100 carries, there seemed to be a noticeable decline once they hit triple digits. Coupled with the average and the years, it seemed a pretty formidable task for a running back that had been accomplished few times at most.

Why 5 Star Rusher? Because I like the way it sounds.

NFL Playoff Challenge, anyone?

D-Ranged1 — Sat, 26 Dec 2009 17:07:10 -0000

With my fantasy season on its way to a dreadful end (7th of 12, I do believe, never rebounded from an 0-4 start, finished .500 flat. Thanks, Anthony Gonzalez, for taking one of my picks and never finishing a game), I figured I'd try out this play-off challenge I see advertised every week - it seems interesting. I've started a league on NFL.com titled "PanthersCuNxtYr" (Panthers See You Next Year - 2010 is the year we win the SB :]).

If anyone would like to participate, just send me an email @ Dranged169 [at] gmail [dot] com and I'll either a) send an invite to the email of the message I receive or b) send an invite to an email specified in the message I receive (if different). Password will be included.

I suppose you could also post your email here, assuming CSR has nothing against sharing emails publicly. (If it does, please let me know, Jaxon, I'll remove mine from the post). Beware of Spam Bots, they're fleas on a Panther ;)

NFL Playoff Challenge [Official Website]

Top Panther's by Category

D-Ranged1 — Sat, 12 Dec 2009 08:12:56 -0000

While waiting for ProFootballFocus.com to post the week 13 stats of the Panthers/Buccaneers game, I decided to take a brief look at the top 5 players in each of their graded categories, as well as an overall top 10 for offense and defense. The ratings have not yet been updated to reflect Week 13 - it'll be interesting to see what changes.

Keep in mind, PFF looks at quality over quantity - so more snaps doesn't necessarily mean a better grade. All statistics are provided by ProFootballFocus.com and thus subject to their method of grading. I don't guarantee their accuracy - I am simply presenting their statistics for discussion. In the event of a multiple players having the same rating, I will resort to the number of snaps taken, with the most ranking higher.

I'll start with the Offense...

Passing (Top 3)
1. QB - Jake Delhomme: 0.0
2. QB - Matt Moore: -1.0
3. QB - Josh McCown: -2.0
League High/Low: Brett Favre 47.5 / JaMarcus Russel -13,5

Receiving
1. WR - Steve Smith: 4.0
2. TE - Dante Rosario: 2.0
3. TE - Gary Barnidge: 0.8
4. RB - Tyrell Sutton: 0.7
5. TE - Jeff King: 0.1
League High / Low: Reggie Wayne 17.8 / Darrius Heyward-Bey -14.3

Rushing
1. RB - DeAngelo Williams: 5.7
2. QB - Jake Delhomme: 4.0
3. RB - Jonathan Stewart: 3.3
4. RB - Tyrell Sutton: 0.4
5. RB - Mike Goodson: 0.1
League High / Low: Chris Johnson 12.6 / Matt Forte -9.0

Pass Block
1. TE - Dante Rosario: 2.0
2. TE - Gary Barnidge: 0.8
3. RB - Tyrell Sutton: 0.7
4. TE - Jeff King: 0.1
5. OL - Mackenzy Bernadeau: 0.0
League High / Low: Willie Colon 18.8 / Levi Brown -17.6

Screen Block
1. WR - Muhsin Muhammad: 1.0
2. OL - Keydrick Vincent: 0.5
3. OL - Travelle Wharton: 0.5
4. RB - Tyrell Sutton: 0.5
5. WR - Steve Smith: 0.0
League High / Low: Scott Mruczkowski 4.5 / Brandon Moore -1.5

Run Block
1. OL - Ryan Kalil: 21.9
2. OL - Jordan Gross: 7.3
3. FB - Brad Hoover: 7.0
4. WR - Muhsin Muhammad: 3.9
5. TE - Gary Barnidge: 1.2
League High / Low: Jahri Evans 22.7 / Eric Steinbach -18.4

Overall (Top 10)
1. OL - Ryan Khalil: 21.2
2. FB - Brad Hoover: 4.9
3. OL - Jordan Gross: 3.8
4. RB - DeAngelo Williams: 3.7
5. TE - Gary Barnidge: 3.6
6. RB - Tyrell Sutton: 2.1
7. WR - Steve Smith: 1.2
8. TE - Dante Rosario: 0.3
9. WR - Muhsin Muhammad: 0.2
10. QB - Jake Delhomme: 0.0

And now for Defense...

Pass Rush
1. DL - Charles Johnson: 6.9
2. LB - Thomas Davis: 1.9
3. DL - Damione Lewis: 1.5
4. DL - Julius Peppers: 1.3
5. LB - Na'il Diggs: 0.6
League High / Low: Dwight Freeney 28.6 / Raheem Brock -17.9

Pass Coverage
1. LB - Thomas Davis: 3.3
2. DL - Julius Peppers: 3.0
3. DB - Richard Marshall: 2.8
4. DL - Tyler Brayton: 2.0
5. DL - Damione Lewis: 2.0
League High / Low: Darrelle Revis 20.1 / Dashon Goldson -14.4

Run Defense
1. LB - Jon Beason: 5.5
2. LB - Thomas Davis: 4.5
3. DL - Hollis Thomas: 2.2
4. DL - Tyler Brayton: 1.0
5. DB - C.J. Wilson: 0.0
League High / Low: Patrick Willis 18.4 / Tyson Jackson -21.2

Overall (Top 10)
1. LB - Thomas Davis: 9.2
2. LB - Jon Beason: 3.0
3. DL - Charles Johnson: 2.8
4. DB - Dante Wesley: 1.7
5. DB - C.J. Wilson: 0.3
6. LB - Dan Connor: -0.1
7. DL - Julius Peppers: -0.9
8. DL - Hilee Taylor: -1.1
9. DL - Hollis Thomas: -1.5
10. DL - Antwon Burton: -1.7

Will Williams miss the Buc's with an injury?

D-Ranged1 — Fri, 04 Dec 2009 03:17:13 -0000

If I remember correctly, it was in the third quarter of an unspectacular day against the Jets that DeAngelo Williams went down with an unspecified injury. He later returned to see no more success in the fourth than he did in the first three quarters. It hurt but it hurt no more than Jake Delhomme's four interceptions and thus quietly slipped by with only a few moans from an unsatisfied fan base.

Being Williams returned, it seemed that all was well. A slight slip for Williams, possibly shaken up, but nothing to worry about - just an off day for the offensive line and, consequently, Williams and Stewart.

However, could that little slip creep up and smack us in the face? Quite possibly.

NFL.com is reporting that Williams may not play against Tampa this week due to a sprained ankle, as quoted below...

CHARLOTTE, N.C. -- DeAngelo Williams missed his second consecutive practice with a sprained ankle, which could leave replacement quarterback Matt Moore without the Carolina Panthers' top running threat in Sunday's game against the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.

With Jake Delhomme sitting out again Thursday with a broken finger on his throwing hand, Moore is expected to make his first start since 2007.

Williams was injured during last Sunday's loss to the New York Jets and hasn't practiced this week.

Muhsin Muhammad (knee) and Dwayne Jarrett (ankle) also missed practice, leaving Steve Smith as Carolina's only healthy regular wide receiver.

Running back Jonathan Stewart (Achilles' tendon) and fullback Brad Hoover (ankle) practiced after sitting out Wednesday.

Williams practiced neither Wednesday nor Thursday. Rather or not he practices Friday could determine his status come game day. Right now, it's not looking too bright.

What does this mean for Carolina? Perhaps not as much as it would for, mostly, any other team in the NFL.

While DeAngelo Williams is our #1 back and among the leading backs in the NFL, many believe that Jonathan Stewart is just as capable of filling the starting role and running with it. Well, he may have to do just that come Sunday afternoon in what could be the first start of his career.

And what better team to do it against than Tampa Bay? Stewart has faced Tampa Bay three times amassing 237 yards and 3 touchdowns, for an average of 5.4 yards per carry. Seems pretty decent then, right? Take into consideration that in the first of the trio of games, Stewart rushed for 12 yards and no touchdowns on 6 attempts for a 2 YPC average. In the two games following, Stewart put up 225 yards and 3 touchdowns on a 7.1 YPC average. Now, those numbers seem a little more like it.

Even if Williams doesn't get the go-head, I'm plenty confident that Moore will still have enough power in the backfield to feel comfortable. Also, with that in mind, Tyrell Sutton might just get his first bite of action at the half-back position.

How interesting is that? Not only would we get to see Matt Moore but we'd also get a glimpse of what Sutton has to offer.

Other players that did not practice Wednesday or Thursday that caught my attention are Tank Tyler, Captain Munnerlyn, and Dwayne Jarrett.

I'm not sure what is going on with Tank's knee if anyone knows what is going on with that.

The good Captain, however, is more than likely going to be out with a concussion. That brings the question to mind; will we see the likes of Mike Goodson? After being inactive for the past few weeks (either inactive or non-existent), perhaps he returns with a bang?

With Dwayne Jarrett missing both practices and Muhsin Muhammad having limited practice Wednesday and missing Thursday, I'm counting on one of the two - if not both - to be watching this Sunday instead of playing. That leaves the door wide open for Kenneth Moore and Charly Martin to step up and prove themselves worthy of playing in the NFL.

We could be getting a lot more of Moore than expected - a double dose, to be exact.

With Fox missing two of his 'preferred' receivers, we might also get to see Goodson line up in the slot to reduce heat on the second wide receiver. At least, that's what I'm holding out hope for.

I'm overly excited for the game this weekend. So much, in fact, that I'm very likely setting myself up for a huge let down. I'll even quote one of my favorite songs...

"...The fog has lifted, the earth has shifted and raised the gifted..."

Not only is our rookie-equivalent 3rd year QB finally getting a chance to prove himself but so much of our other untested talent could also see work should these injuries stick. I'm not advocating injuries by any means but, hey, it is what it is.

In-Depth Stats on Panthers CBs Explain High Ranking

D-Ranged1 — Fri, 27 Nov 2009 05:22:33 -0000

Stats provided by: ProFootballFocus

I stumbled across this after reading another post briefly mentioning the failures of our corner, Richard Marshall. Admittedly, I haven't been high on Marshall much at all this season, these numbers proved to be an eye opener, in my opinion. I had no idea, nor would I have ever predicted, the numbers would look this way.

For those of you that don't care to click the link and read a bunch of abbreviations and numbers, I've provided a breakdown below.

I also feel that, as a whole, our defense (specifically against the pass) has performed better on field than on paper. The worst of a player tends to come out on paper more so than the best and stats really just don't tell you how a player has performed when it matters the most.

And to go ahead and bat down an argument that I'm sure would pop up at least once, I'm sure Gamble consistently draws the tougher receivers but aren't we paying him to do just that?

PS. I'm not trying to bash any of our corners, by the way, I think they've all done a great job, along with our entire defense, in keeping the Panthers competitive - even at the times in which we seem to have an inept offense (which we all know the cause of that). The numbers will speak for themselves, however, as each of you take them for whatever they mean to you.

Marshall ranks higher than both Munnerlyn and Gamble in coverage but is ranked the worst of the three against the run.
Marshall also has the least amount of penalties at 2, Munnerlyn having the most with 4. Gamble sits in the middle with 3.
None of the three have had any baring on pressuring the QB (by design, I'm sure).
Gamble has two more tackles than Marshall, 36-34 respectively, on 6 fewer snaps.
Munnerlyn has 22 tackles on just over a third of the snaps. (Gamble: 634; Marshall: 640; Munnerlyn: 275)
Marshall and Munnerlyn have combined to miss 4 tackles (2 each) while Gamble has missed 6 (Well, he does like to gamble, eh?).
Marshall has accounted for one more stop (according to PFF "the cumulative number of solo defensive tackles made which constitute an offensive failure") with 12 meanwhile Gamble has 11 and Munnerlyn 8.
Half (51.9%) of the balls thrown towards Marshall are incomplete, whereas Gamble has given up completions on over three quarters (78.4%) of balls thrown his way. Munnerlyn sits tight between the two (67.7%).
Marshall and Munnerlyn have combined to give up 483 yards (Marshall: 241 / 8.9avg; Munnerlyn: 242 / 11.5avg), meanwhile Gamble has given up 511 / 12.8avg (Gamble has been targeted 51 times; Marshall has been targeted 52 alone; Munnerlyn 31).
Gamble also doubles Marshall and Munnerlyn's combined total in yards after catch given up at 225. (Gamble: 255; Marshall: 100; Munnerlyn: 81)
Gamble has given up a long of 63 yards; Munnerlyn 27; Marshall 21.
Marshall has given up 0 touchdowns on the season, meanwhile Gamble has given up 2; Munnerlyn 1.
Marshall has 3 interceptions to Gambles 1, none for Munnerlyn.
Gamble has defensed 4 passes; Marshall 3; Munnerlyn 1.

Finally, everyone knows of the much maligned NFL QB rating, however, through that, PFF has given cornerbacks their own "QB" rating. I don't believe it is an official NFL stat (I've never seen it) but it seems they simply determine what the QB ratings were while throwing towards each respective corner and average them...

Chris Gamble = 113.3; Captain Munnerlyn = 101.8; Richard Marshall = an astounding (in comparison) 40.6.

In comparison to the rest of the league...

Concerning CB-specific QB Ratings, Richard Marshall ranks second only to Phillies Sheldon Brown, who has a 31.8.
From the bottom (meaning the lower the ranking the worse the player, by the way), Chris Gamble is, overall, ranked 4th; Munnerlyn is 16th; Marshall is 50th. There are 105 total CB's rated.
If it's any consolation, 19 other CB's on the list have missed equivalent or more tackles than Gamble.
Ken Lucas is averaging 15.2 average yards per completion over in Seattle, ranked the 12th worst. Gamble doesn't pop onto the list until #36.
Marshall has the 4th shortest "longest" pass given up among cornerbacks. (That one sure was hard to put into words.)
Of 16 corners tied for 1st place with 0 touchdowns given up, 4 have more than 500 snaps while only 2 have more than 600. Those two being Jerraud Powers of Indianapolis (601 snaps) and our very own Richard Marshall (640 snaps). He has the most snaps of all corners with 0 allowed touchdowns.

Well, that's all I really see that may be of interest to us Panther fans. I'd love to see what else you guys can derive from the information in the link provided.

Special thanks to BigDavis. I would've never known such a place as ProFootballFocus existed had he not used it for reference and shared it with the rest of us.

"All he's done in just four starts is seize the lead among NFC rookies in interceptions. Only...

D-Ranged1 — Tue, 24 Nov 2009 08:27:07 -0000

"All he's done in just four starts is seize the lead among NFC rookies in interceptions. Only Buffalo's Jairus Byrd sits ahead of him in the league rookie table with eight picks through 10 games."
- On Sherrod Martin's four starts and three interceptions.

http://www.panthers.com/news/article-1/Minutes-Martin-maximizes-moment/2c6c6ee3-0adb-46b9-beca-833d17f94035

Jordan Gross breaks leg; not ankle.

D-Ranged1 — Tue, 24 Nov 2009 03:00:42 -0000

I've been hearing a lot of Gross breaking his ankle, as was originally announced, but I'm not sure if it has yet been cleared up. According to NFL.com...

CHARLOTTE, N.C. -- Carolina Panthers left tackle Jordan Gross broke his right leg, not his ankle, as the team first announced, but he still plans on being ready for the start of next season.

Wearing a large cast and leaning on crutches, Gross visited his teammates at Bank of America Stadium on Monday for the first time since suffering the gruesome, season-ending injury during a Nov. 15 game against the Atlanta Falcons.

"For next season, I have no concerns at all," said Gross, who made his first Pro Bowl last season.

Gross was blocking defensive end John Abraham in the second quarter when Falcons defensive tackle Vance Walker rolled into the lineman's right leg, breaking the tibia and fibula.

"Everyone hears it pop and everyone panics, so I was like, 'Don't panic,'" Gross said. "Then I rolled out, and from below my calf down was pointing out to the right. I mean, I'm not a doctor, but I figured it wasn't good."

"I heard it looked nasty," Gross said. "They said I didn't scream too bad, so I improved my street cred a little."

Panthers coach John Fox said after the game that Gross fractured his ankle, but the lineman said he broke both major bones in his lower leg. He had rods, plates and screws inserted during surgery immediately after the game.

Gross spent two nights in the hospital, then was in considerable discomfort until last weekend. He'll be on crutches for six more weeks, and the healing process will take about three months.

"It was like the perfect break," Gross said. "Nothing down in my ankle, no fractures, no ligament or cartilage damage. Once it heals up, they say it'll be stronger than before, because I'll have titanium down in there."

Gross' loss was a tough blow for the Panthers, who shifted left guard Travelle Wharton to left tackle. Second-year pro Mackenzy Bernadeau took over for Wharton.

The new line struggled to protect quarterback Jake Delhomme during the Panthers' 24-17 loss to the Miami Dolphins on Thursday.

"Friday morning, I got a call from him early," Delhomme said of Gross. "I think he said it best, 'If you guys had won by 30, I would have felt so much better.' It's crushing because you feel like you let guys down. If you care about it, I think that's how you feel."

Gross, who plans on being around the team as much as he can, said he still hasn't seen a replay of the injury.

I've been hearing a lot of Gross breaking his ankle, as was originally announced, but I'm not sure if it has yet been cleared up. According to NFL.com...

CHARLOTTE, N.C. -- Carolina Panthers left tackle Jordan Gross broke his right leg, not his ankle, as the team first announced, but he still plans on being ready for the start of next season.

Wearing a large cast and leaning on crutches, Gross visited his teammates at Bank of America Stadium on Monday for the first time since suffering the gruesome, season-ending injury during a Nov. 15 game against the Atlanta Falcons.

"For next season, I have no concerns at all," said Gross, who made his first Pro Bowl last season.

Gross was blocking defensive end John Abraham in the second quarter when Falcons defensive tackle Vance Walker rolled into the lineman's right leg, breaking the tibia and fibula.

"Everyone hears it pop and everyone panics, so I was like, 'Don't panic,'" Gross said. "Then I rolled out, and from below my calf down was pointing out to the right. I mean, I'm not a doctor, but I figured it wasn't good."

"I heard it looked nasty," Gross said. "They said I didn't scream too bad, so I improved my street cred a little."

Panthers coach John Fox said after the game that Gross fractured his ankle, but the lineman said he broke both major bones in his lower leg. He had rods, plates and screws inserted during surgery immediately after the game.

Gross spent two nights in the hospital, then was in considerable discomfort until last weekend. He'll be on crutches for six more weeks, and the healing process will take about three months.

"It was like the perfect break," Gross said. "Nothing down in my ankle, no fractures, no ligament or cartilage damage. Once it heals up, they say it'll be stronger than before, because I'll have titanium down in there."

Gross' loss was a tough blow for the Panthers, who shifted left guard Travelle Wharton to left tackle. Second-year pro Mackenzy Bernadeau took over for Wharton.

The new line struggled to protect quarterback Jake Delhomme during the Panthers' 24-17 loss to the Miami Dolphins on Thursday.

"Friday morning, I got a call from him early," Delhomme said of Gross. "I think he said it best, 'If you guys had won by 30, I would have felt so much better.' It's crushing because you feel like you let guys down. If you care about it, I think that's how you feel."

Gross, who plans on being around the team as much as he can, said he still hasn't seen a replay of the injury.

Foxhole, "Answering" some of the questions we've all had.

D-Ranged1 — Tue, 17 Nov 2009 21:56:09 -0000

I found this Foxhole to be a bit more interesting than most. We typically get the same questions with very similar questions, however this one caught my eye as being a bit more precise as to what we've actually been discussing around here.

Oh, and by "answering" I do mean a coach doing what a coach does, addressing questions without giving way too much information.

On injuries: Out: Jordan Gross - ankle. Did not participate: Charles Godfrey - ankle, Brad Hoover - ankle, Charles Johnson - pectoral, and Jonathan Stewart - Achilles. Limited participation: Damione Lewis - shoulder.

On signing wide receiver Charly Martin from the practice squad: He's a guy that's been working real hard. He's out here practicing every day. He's definitely caught the coaches' eyes as far as what he's done on the practice field working against our first-unit defense. He's a bigger guy that could help in the kicking game as well as at receiver.

On preparing for a game on a short week: It's a quick turnaround. This is the first time we've ever done this. We turned down the tempo of practice some to get the guys refreshed and still try to get our work done. I thought guys moved around really well today and seemed pretty into it. They looked good today, and, hopefully, we can cram two days work in tomorrow. I thought today we handled it well.

On the challenges of playing on a short week: One thing about this league is they've got the same schedule. If they had four extra days rest, I'd be a little more nervous. Both teams have to operate under it. To try to refresh guys the best you can and still get your work in - it's a fine line. Time will tell.

On having a limited amount of time to get ready for the Dolphins' Wildcat offense: We've been preparing for it all season. We played them in the preseason. That wasn't even ridiculously close to how we'll play them this time. I think we've got a good plan, and we'll see how well we execute it. But this wouldn't be the first week we've practiced it.

On the development of guard Mackenzy Bernadeau: He was here all year last year. I thought he was a fine, young prospect. The offensive line is a little bit like quarterback in that it takes a little bit of time to get used to all of the calls and schemes. He's been our lineman in waiting so to speak all season long and he would have been our first guy in on any injury. Unfortunately, we did have that injury, so he steps in. He's a guy we feel good about, and I know he's excited about playing this week.

On Bernadeau going from a small school (Bentley College) to starting in the NFL: I had a guy (Carlton Haselrig) similar like that when we were in Pittsburgh. He didn't play college football; he was a wrestler that developed. He's (Bernadeau's) got good leverage; he's a good athlete; and he's a smart guy. Those are three good combinations. Our staff has done a good job with him, and he's done a good job of picking everything up and doing it at a high level.
On Dolphins quarterback Chad Henne: He's athletic. He's big and strong. He does have a good arm. He's a young quarterback. Just like any quarterback in this league, you've got to be ready to play, and he's shown some good moments on tape. Hopefully, we'll be able to execute.

I find Charly Martin to be an interesting sign. Perhaps I am reading too much into what could have been a simple decision but I find it reassuring that they didn't feel the need to sign another tackle but instead are confident enough in their back-ups.

I also enjoy contemplating the idea that we are realizing our need for another WR. Of course, I don't expect a PS addition to see much, or any, playing time, much less make an impact, but who knows? Anything can happen in the NFL.

I really think we're going to be able to contain Miami, even on this short week. Especially when given consideration that they have got to contain Williams and Stewart, meanwhile we must simply contain another Williams and the Wildcat.

I hope Peppers is able to play more so than he did against Atlanta, though I doubt it if his hand is truly broken.