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Rating last year's rookies-results and a final poll question
by Dalman on Dec 12, 2011 10:19 PM EST
on Minor League Ball
Jose Altuve narrowly wins the wins the 25th and final spot on our list. But, it was very close, and with the benefit of your cooperation in voting for your favorite and second favorite we are able to add several additional honorable mentions in approximate order of support. The final list is below:
1. Brett Lawrie, 3b Toronto Blue Jays (51%)
2, Eric Hosmer, 1b Kansas City Royals (57%)
3. Michael Pineda, P Seattle Mariners (38%)
4. Dustin Ackley, 2b Seattle Mariners (41%)
5. Desmond Jennings, of Tampa Bay Rays (47%)
6. Jeremy Hellickson, P Tampa Bay Rays (49%)
7. Freddie Freeman, 1B Atlanta Braves (45%)
8. Brandon Beachy, P Atlanta Braves (27%)
9. Brandon Belt, OF/!B San Francisco Giants (33%)
10. Mike Moustakas, 3b Kansas City Royals (38%)
11. Domonic Brown, of Philadelphia Phillies (32%) (70% runoff)
12. Jason Kipnis, 2b Cleveland Indians 29%
13. Cory Luebke, P San Diego Padres 19% (59% runoff)
14. Paul Goldschmidt, 1b Arizona Diamondbacks 26%
15. Danny Espinosa, 2b Washington Nationals 36%
16. Craig Kimbrel, P Atlanta Braves, 38%
17. Aroldis Chapman, P Cincinnati Reds 56%
18. Wilson Ramos, C Washington Nationals 38%
19. Chris Sale, P Chicago White Sox 26%
20. Mike Minor, P Atlanta Braves 40%
21. Salvador Perez, C Kansas City Royals 24%
22. Jemile Weeks, 2b Oakland A's 26% (67% runoff)
23. Vance Worley, p Philadelphia Phillies 29%
24. Danny Duffy, p Kansas City Royals 29%
25. Jose Altuve, 2b Houston Astros 25% (of first place votes)
hm Zach Brittton, P Baltimore Orioles
hm Mark Trumbo, 1b Los Angeles Angels
hm Lonnie Chisenhall, 3b Cleveland Indians
also receiving a fair amount of support in the final round were Juan Nicasio (pitcher, Colorado Rockies), Dayan Viciedo (3b Chicago White Sox) and Dee Gordon ss Los Angeles Dodgers)
Others on the ballot in the final round and receiving a vote or receiving a vote by write in were: JD Martinez, Lucas Duda, Allen Craig, and Eric Thames
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Rating last year's rookies-25th and Final Round
by Dalman on Dec 9, 2011 12:12 PM EST
on Minor League Ball
Danny Duffy wins round 24, giving the Royals four players on the list, matching the four on the list from the Atlanta Braves . Our winners so far include:
1. Brett Lawrie, 3b Toronto Blue Jays (51%)
2, Eric Hosmer, 1b Kansas City Royals (57%)
3. Michael Pineda, P Seattle Mariners (38%)
4. Dustin Ackley, 2b Seattle Mariners (41%)
5. Desmond Jennings, of Tampa Bay Rays (47%)
6. Jeremy Hellickson, P Tampa Bay Rays (49%)
7. Freddie Freeman, 1B Atlanta Braves (45%)
8. Brandon Beachy, P Atlanta Braves (27%)
9. Brandon Belt, OF/!B San Francisco Giants (33%)
10. Mike Moustakas, 3b Kansas City Royals (38%)
11. Domonic Brown, of Philadelphia Phillies (32%) (70% runoff)
12. Jason Kipnis, 2b Cleveland Indians 29%
13. Cory Luebke, P San Diego Padres 19% (59% runoff)
14. Paul Goldschmidt, 1b Arizona Diamondbacks 26%
15. Danny Espinosa, 2b Washington Nationals 36%
16. Craig Kimbrel, P Atlanta Braves, 38%
17. Aroldis Chapman, P Cincinnati Reds 56%
18. Wilson Ramos, C Washington Nationals 38%
19. Chris Sale, P Chicago White Sox 26%
20. Mike Minor, P Atlanta Braves 40%
21. Salvador Perez, C Kansas City Royals 24%
22. Jemile Weeks, 2b Oakland A's 26% (67% runoff)
23. Vance Worley, p Philadelphia Phillies 29%
24. Danny Duffy, p Kansas City Royals 29%
Rating last year's rookies-Community Prospect #24
by Dalman on Dec 8, 2011 12:28 AM EST
on Minor League Ball
In a close race, Vance Worley edges out Danny Duffy for the 23rd spot. Our winners so far include:
1. Brett Lawrie, 3b Toronto Blue Jays (51%)
2, Eric Hosmer, 1b Kansas City Royals (57%)
3. Michael Pineda, P Seattle Mariners (38%)
4. Dustin Ackley, 2b Seattle Mariners (41%)
5. Desmond Jennings, of Tampa Bay Rays (47%)
6. Jeremy Hellickson, P Tampa Bay Rays (49%)
7. Freddie Freeman, 1B Atlanta Braves (45%)
8. Brandon Beachy, P Atlanta Braves (27%)
9. Brandon Belt, OF/!B San Francisco Giants (33%)
10. Mike Moustakas, 3b Kansas City Royals (38%)
11. Domonic Brown, of Philadelphia Phillies (32%) (70% runoff)
12. Jason Kipnis, 2b Cleveland Indians 29%
13. Cory Luebke, P San Diego Padres 19% (59% runoff)
14. Paul Goldschmidt, 1b Arizona Diamondbacks 26%
15. Danny Espinosa, 2b Washington Nationals 36%
16. Craig Kimbrel, P Atlanta Braves, 38%
17. Aroldis Chapman, P Cincinnati Reds 56%
18. Wilson Ramos, C Washington Nationals 38%
19. Chris Sale, P Chicago White Sox 26%
20. Mike Minor, P Atlanta Braves 40%
21. Salvador Perez, C Kansas City Royals 24%
22. Jemile Weeks, 2b Oakland A's 26% (67% runoff)
23. Vance Worley, p Philadelphia Phillies 29%
Rating last year's rookies-Community Prospect #23
by Dalman on Dec 6, 2011 9:56 AM EST
on Minor League Ball
Jemile Weeks wins the runoff over Vance Worley. Our winners so far include:
1. Brett Lawrie, 3b Toronto Blue Jays (51%)
2, Eric Hosmer, 1b Kansas City Royals (57%)
3. Michael Pineda, P Seattle Mariners (38%)
4. Dustin Ackley, 2b Seattle Mariners (41%)
5. Desmond Jennings, of Tampa Bay Rays (47%)
6. Jeremy Hellickson, P Tampa Bay Rays (49%)
7. Freddie Freeman, 1B Atlanta Braves (45%)
8. Brandon Beachy, P Atlanta Braves (27%)
9. Brandon Belt, OF/!B San Francisco Giants (33%)
10. Mike Moustakas, 3b Kansas City Royals (38%)
11. Domonic Brown, of Philadelphia Phillies (32%) (70% runoff)
12. Jason Kipnis, 2b Cleveland Indians 29%
13. Cory Luebke, P San Diego Padres 19% (59% runoff)
14. Paul Goldschmidt, 1b Arizona Diamondbacks 26%
15. Danny Espinosa, 2b Washington Nationals 36%
16. Craig Kimbrel, P Atlanta Braves, 38%
17. Aroldis Chapman, P Cincinnati Reds 56%
18. Wilson Ramos, C Washington Nationals 38%
19. Chris Sale, P Chicago White Sox 26%
20. Mike Minor, P Atlanta Braves 40%
21. Salvador Perez, C Kansas City Royals 24%
22. Jemile Weeks, 2b Oakland A's 26% (67% runoff)
Rating last year's rookies--Community Prospect #22 runoff
by Dalman on Dec 5, 2011 2:23 PM EST
on Minor League Ball
Round 22 comes down to a tie between Vance Worley and Jemile Weeks. So we will have a runoff. Who do you prefer for the #22 slot on our list for future performance Vance Worley or Jemile Weeks? Need a few more words, so I'll say that I find it a hard decision between the two. Both seem likely to carve out major league careers as regulars for a while, both seem to have significant ceilings that will prevent them from being stars over any length of time.
Rating last year's rookies-Community Prospect #22
by Dalman on Dec 3, 2011 10:45 PM EST
on Minor League Ball
Salvador Perez becomes the third Royals rookie on our list. Our winners so far include:
1. Brett Lawrie, 3b Toronto Blue Jays (51%)
2, Eric Hosmer, 1b Kansas City Royals (57%)
3. Michael Pineda, P Seattle Mariners (38%)
4. Dustin Ackley, 2b Seattle Mariners (41%)
5. Desmond Jennings, of Tampa Bay Rays (47%)
6. Jeremy Hellickson, P Tampa Bay Rays (49%)
7. Freddie Freeman, 1B Atlanta Braves (45%)
8. Brandon Beachy, P Atlanta Braves (27%)
9. Brandon Belt, OF/!B San Francisco Giants (33%)
10. Mike Moustakas, 3b Kansas City Royals (38%)
11. Domonic Brown, of Philadelphia Phillies (32%) (70% runoff)
12. Jason Kipnis, 2b Cleveland Indians 29%
13. Cory Luebke, P San Diego Padres 19% (59% runoff)
14. Paul Goldschmidt, 1b Arizona Diamondbacks 26%
15. Danny Espinosa, 2b Washington Nationals 36%
16. Craig Kimbrel, P Atlanta Braves, 38%
17. Aroldis Chapman, P Cincinnati Reds 56%
18. Wilson Ramos, C Washington Nationals 38%
19. Chris Sale, P Chicago White Sox 26%
20. Mike Minor, P Atlanta Braves 40%
21. Salvador Perez, C Kansas City Royals
Rating last year's rookies-Community Prospect #21
by Dalman on Dec 2, 2011 11:03 AM EST
on Minor League Ball
Mike Minor becomes the fourth Atlanta Brave rookie in the top 20 of our list. Our winners so far include:
1. Brett Lawrie, 3b Toronto Blue Jays (51%)
2, Eric Hosmer, 1b Kansas City Royals (57%)
3. Michael Pineda, P Seattle Mariners (38%)
4. Dustin Ackley, 2b Seattle Mariners (41%)
5. Desmond Jennings, of Tampa Bay Rays (47%)
6. Jeremy Hellickson, P Tampa Bay Rays (49%)
7. Freddie Freeman, 1B Atlanta Braves (45%)
8. Brandon Beachy, P Atlanta Braves (27%)
9. Brandon Belt, OF/!B San Francisco Giants (33%)
10. Mike Moustakas, 3b Kansas City Royals (38%)
11. Domonic Brown, of Philadelphia Phillies (32%) (70% runoff)
12. Jason Kipnis, 2b Cleveland Indians 29%
13. Cory Luebke, P San Diego Padres 19% (59% runoff)
14. Paul Goldschmidt, 1b Arizona Diamondbacks 26%
15. Danny Espinosa, 2b Washington Nationals 36%
16. Craig Kimbrel, P Atlanta Braves, 38%
17. Aroldis Chapman, P Cincinnati Reds 56%
18. Wilson Ramos, C Washington Nationals 38%
19. Chris Sale, P Chicago White Sox 26%
20. Mike Minor, P Atlanta Braves 40%
Rating last year's rookies-Community Prospect #20
by Dalman on Dec 1, 2011 7:18 AM EST
on Minor League Ball
After none for the first 15 rounds, Chris Sale becomes the third reliever in the last four rounds to come off the board. Our winners so far include:
1. Brett Lawrie, 3b Toronto Blue Jays (51%)
2, Eric Hosmer, 1b Kansas City Royals (57%)
3. Michael Pineda, P Seattle Mariners (38%)
4. Dustin Ackley, 2b Seattle Mariners (41%)
5. Desmond Jennings, of Tampa Bay Rays (47%)
6. Jeremy Hellickson, P Tampa Bay Rays (49%)
7. Freddie Freeman, 1B Atlanta Braves (45%)
8. Brandon Beachy, P Atlanta Braves (27%)
9. Brandon Belt, OF/!B San Francisco Giants (33%)
10. Mike Moustakas, 3b Kansas City Royals (38%)
11. Domonic Brown, of Philadelphia Phillies (32%) (70% runoff)
12. Jason Kipnis, 2b Cleveland Indians 29%
13. Cory Luebke, P San Diego Padres 19% (59% runoff)
14. Paul Goldschmidt, 1b Arizona Diamondbacks 26%
15. Danny Espinosa, 2b Washington Nationals 36%
16. Craig Kimbrel, P Atlanta Braves, 38%
17. Aroldis Chapman, P Cincinnati Reds 56%
18. Wilson Ramos, C Washington Nationals 38%
19. Chris Sale, P Chicago White Sox 26%
Rating last year's rookies-Community Prospect #19
by Dalman on Nov 29, 2011 10:26 PM EST
on Minor League Ball
Wilson Ramos comes back onto the ballot just in time to win round 18. Our winners so far include:
1. Brett Lawrie, 3b Toronto Blue Jays (51%)
2, Eric Hosmer, 1b Kansas City Royals (57%)
3. Michael Pineda, P Seattle Mariners (38%)
4. Dustin Ackley, 2b Seattle Mariners (41%)
5. Desmond Jennings, of Tampa Bay Rays (47%)
6. Jeremy Hellickson, P Tampa Bay Rays (49%)
7. Freddie Freeman, 1B Atlanta Braves (45%)
8. Brandon Beachy, P Atlanta Braves (27%)
9. Brandon Belt, OF/!B San Francisco Giants (33%)
10. Mike Moustakas, 3b Kansas City Royals (38%)
11. Domonic Brown, of Philadelphia Phillies (32%) (70% runoff)
12. Jason Kipnis, 2b Cleveland Indians 29%
13. Cory Luebke, P San Diego Padres 19% (59% runoff)
14. Paul Goldschmidt, 1b Arizona Diamondbacks 26%
15. Danny Espinosa, 2b Washington Nationals 36%
16. Craig Kimbrel, P Atlanta Braves, 38%
17. Aroldis Chapman, P Cincinnati Reds 56%
18. Wilson Ramos, C Washington Nationals 38%
Rating last year's rookies-Community Prospect #18
by Dalman on Nov 28, 2011 10:27 PM EST
on Minor League Ball
Aroldis Chapman wins the round as a near consensus pick. With such a high percentage of the vote going to Chapman it makes next round very unpredictable. Our winners so far include:
1. Brett Lawrie, 3b Toronto Blue Jays (51%)
2, Eric Hosmer, 1b Kansas City Royals (57%)
3. Michael Pineda, P Seattle Mariners (38%)
4. Dustin Ackley, 2b Seattle Mariners (41%)
5. Desmond Jennings, of Tampa Bay Rays (47%)
6. Jeremy Hellickson, P Tampa Bay Rays (49%)
7. Freddie Freeman, 1B Atlanta Braves (45%)
8. Brandon Beachy, P Atlanta Braves (27%)
9. Brandon Belt, OF/!B San Francisco Giants (33%)
10. Mike Moustakas, 3b Kansas City Royals (38%)
11. Domonic Brown, of Philadelphia Phillies (32%) (70% runoff)
12. Jason Kipnis, 2b Cleveland Indians 29%
13. Cory Luebke, P San Diego Padres 19% (59% runoff)
14. Paul Goldschmidt, 1b Arizona Diamondbacks 26%
15. Danny Espinosa, 2b Washington Nationals 36%
16. Craig Kimbrel, P Atlanta Braves, 38%
17. Aroldis Chapman, P Cincinnati Reds 56%
Rating last year's rookies-Community Prospect #17
by Dalman on Nov 28, 2011 11:39 AM EST
on Minor League Ball
Craig Kimbrel becomes our first relief pitcher, and our third Atlanta Brave on the board, winning round 16. Our winners so far include:
1. Brett Lawrie, 3b Toronto Blue Jays (51%)
2, Eric Hosmer, 1b Kansas City Royals (57%)
3. Michael Pineda, P Seattle Mariners (38%)
4. Dustin Ackley, 2b Seattle Mariners (41%)
5. Desmond Jennings, of Tampa Bay Rays (47%)
6. Jeremy Hellickson, P Tampa Bay Rays (49%)
7. Freddie Freeman, 1B Atlanta Braves (45%)
8. Brandon Beachy, P Atlanta Braves (27%)
9. Brandon Belt, OF/!B San Francisco Giants (33%)
10. Mike Moustakas, 3b Kansas City Royals (38%)
11. Domonic Brown, of Philadelphia Phillies (32%) (70% runoff)
12. Jason Kipnis, 2b Cleveland Indians 29%
13. Cory Luebke, P San Diego Padres 19% (59% runoff)
14. Paul Goldschmidt, 1b Arizona Diamondbacks 26%
15. Danny Espinosa, 2b Washington Nationals 36%
16. Craig Kimbrel, P Atlanta Braves, 38%
Rating last year's rookies-Community Prospect #16
by Dalman on Nov 27, 2011 8:54 AM EST
on Minor League Ball
After several rounds on the cusp, Danny Espinosa wins round 15. Our winners so far include:
1. Brett Lawrie, 3b Toronto Blue Jays (51%)
2, Eric Hosmer, 1b Kansas City Royals (57%)
3. Michael Pineda, P Seattle Mariners (38%)
4. Dustin Ackley, 2b Seattle Mariners (41%)
5. Desmond Jennings, of Tampa Bay Rays (47%)
6. Jeremy Hellickson, P Tampa Bay Rays (49%)
7. Freddie Freeman, 1B Atlanta Braves (45%)
8. Brandon Beachy, P Atlanta Braves (27%)
9. Brandon Belt, OF/!B San Francisco Giants (33%)
10. Mike Moustakas, 3b Kansas City Royals (38%)
11. Domonic Brown, of Philadelphia Phillies (32%) (70% runoff)
12. Jason Kipnis, 2b Cleveland Indians 29%
13. Cory Luebke, P San Diego Padres 19% (59% runoff)
14. Paul Goldschmidt, 1b Arizona Diamondbacks 26%
15. Danny Espinosa, 2b Washington Nationals 36%
Rating last year's rookies-Community Prospect #15
by Dalman on Nov 25, 2011 8:10 AM EST
on Minor League Ball
Paul Goldschmidt handily wins round 14. With Thansgiving done I'll also try to get back to a minimum or one round a day. Our winners so far include:
1. Brett Lawrie, 3b Toronto Blue Jays (51%)
2, Eric Hosmer, 1b Kansas City Royals (57%)
3. Michael Pineda, P Seattle Mariners (38%)
4. Dustin Ackley, 2b Seattle Mariners (41%)
5. Desmond Jennings, of Tampa Bay Rays (47%)
6. Jeremy Hellickson, P Tampa Bay Rays (49%)
7. Freddie Freeman, 1B Atlanta Braves (45%)
8. Brandon Beachy, P Atlanta Braves (27%)
9. Brandon Belt, OF/!B San Francisco Giants (33%)
10. Mike Moustakas, 3b Kansas City Royals (38%)
11. Domonic Brown, of Philadelphia Phillies (32%) (70% runoff)
12. Jason Kipnis, 2b Cleveland Indians 29%
13. Cory Luebke, P San Diego Padres 19% (59% runoff)
14. Paul Goldschmidt, 1b Arizona Diamondbacks 26%
Rating last year's rookies-Community Prospect #14
by Dalman on Nov 23, 2011 8:37 AM EST
on Minor League Ball
In something of a surprise, Cory Luebke emerges from the pack to edge to make the runoff along with Paul Goldschmidt, and then edges Goldschmidt to win the round for the #13 rank among last years rookies
1. Brett Lawrie, 3b Toronto Blue Jays (51%)
2, Eric Hosmer, 1b Kansas City Royals (57%)
3. Michael Pineda, P Seattle Mariners (38%)
4. Dustin Ackley, 2b Seattle Mariners (41%)
5. Desmond Jennings, of Tampa Bay Rays (47%)
6. Jeremy Hellickson, P Tampa Bay Rays (49%)
7. Freddie Freeman, 1B Atlanta Braves (45%)
8. Brandon Beachy, P Atlanta Braves (27%)
9. Brandon Belt, OF/!B San Francisco Giants (33%)
10. Mike Moustakas, 3b Kansas City Royals (38%)
11. Domonic Brown, of Philadelphia Phillies (32%) (70% runoff)
12. Jason Kipnis, 2b Cleveland Indians 29%
13. Cory Luebke, P San Diego Padres 19% (59% runoff)
Rating Last Year's Rookies-Community Prospect #13 Runoff
by Dalman on Nov 22, 2011 8:16 AM EST
on Minor League Ball
Voting was more fractured then ever this round with 5 guys (Espinosa, Goldschmidt, Luebke, Chapman and Kimbrel) all within a narrow band of 14% to 22%. The top two were separated by only a single vote and with them sharing only 41% of the vote between them, there is very little reason to have a preconceived notion which of the two of them would win a runoff.
So, a runoff it will be. In one corner we have San Diego Padres pitcher Cory Luebke. In the other corner, Arizona Diamondbacks first baseman, Paul Goldschmidt.
So, picking just between Goldschmidt and Luebke, who is the best prospect for future performance among that pair?
Rating last year's rookies-Community Prospect #13
by Dalman on Nov 21, 2011 12:16 AM EST
on Minor League Ball
In a very close race, Jason Kipnis jumps over several players who had run ahead of him in recent rounds and edges Danny Espinosa for the #12 rank among last years rookies
1. Brett Lawrie, 3b Toronto Blue Jays (51%)
2, Eric Hosmer, 1b Kansas City Royals (57%)
3. Michael Pineda, P Seattle Mariners (38%)
4. Dustin Ackley, 2b Seattle Mariners (41%)
5. Desmond Jennings, of Tampa Bay Rays (47%)
6. Jeremy Hellickson, P Tampa Bay Rays (49%)
7. Freddie Freeman, 1B Atlanta Braves (45%)
8. Brandon Beachy, P Atlanta Braves (27%)
9. Brandon Belt, OF/!B San Francisco Giants (33%)
10. Mike Moustakas, 3b Kansas City Royals (38%)
11. Domonic Brown, of Philadelphia Phillies (32%) (70% runoff)
12. Jason Kipnis, 2b Cleveland Indians 29%
Rating last year's rookies-Community Prospect #12
by Dalman on Nov 19, 2011 9:59 AM EST
on Minor League Ball
The runoff ends up being anticlimactic as Domonic Brown easily bests Danny Espinosa to earn the #11 slot among last year's rookies
1. Brett Lawrie, 3b Toronto Blue Jays (51%)
2, Eric Hosmer, 1b Kansas City Royals (57%)
3. Michael Pineda, P Seattle Mariners (38%)
4. Dustin Ackley, 2b Seattle Mariners (41%)
5. Desmond Jennings, of Tampa Bay Rays (47%)
6. Jeremy Hellickson, P Tampa Bay Rays (49%)
7. Freddie Freeman, 1B Atlanta Braves (45%)
8. Brandon Beachy, P Atlanta Braves (27%)
9. Brandon Belt, OF/!B San Francisco Giants (33%)
10. Mike Moustakas, 3b Kansas City Royals (38%)
11. Domonic Brown, of Philadelphia Phillies (32%) (70% runoff)
The voting breakdown for the eleventh round round after Brown was Danny Espinosa 29% (30% runoff), Paul Goldschmidt 13%, Cory Luebke 11%, Mark Trumbo 5%, Jason Kipnis 5%, Ivan Nova 3%, Aroldis Chapman 3% (runoff), JD Martinez 0%, Jordan Walden 0%.
I'm going to keep everyone on the ballot who got at least 5% of the vote, and drop everyone who didn't, so we'll drop Ivan Nova, Jordan Walden and JD Martinez for now. Despite getting a write in vote, Chapman will also stay off for another round or two barring an increase in his level of write in support. We'll rotate back in Jemile Weeks, Danny Duffy, Chris Sale and Kyle Drabek.
In rotation: Salvador Perez 0% (round 8), Zach Britton 0% (round 9), Vance Worley 0% (round 9), Craig Kimbrel 0% (round 9), Wilson Ramos 2% (round 10), Aroldis Chapman 2% (round 10), Henderson Alvarez 0% (round 10), Jose Altuve 0% round 10, Ivan Nova 3% (round 11), Jordan Walden 0% (round 11), JD Martinez 0% (round 11)
We'll give Lucas Duda his first time on the ballot this round, leaving as future testers:
Josh Collmenter, Kenley Jansen, Dayan Viciedo, Juan Nicasio Alex Cobb, Mike Minor, Jordan Lyles, Ben Revere and Jerry Sands.
As always voting is by +1 and there are places below to suggest testers or vote for players not currently on the ballot.
So who is your number 12 prospect for future performance among last year's rookies?
Rating last year's rookies- Community Prospect #11 Runoff
by Dalman on Nov 18, 2011 7:31 AM EST
on Minor League Ball
The votes have been counted for round 11, but it is so close between Danny Espinosa and Domonic Brown (12-11 Brown) that we need a runoff to separate them, our first so far.
Going into last year, Brown was John's #2 hitting prospect with a straight A, while Espinosa was well behind, earning a "strong B" and the #38 slot.
On the other hand, despite a less than stellar batting average, Espinosa played the entire year in the majors in 2011, hitting for pretty good power and by Fangraphs estimate also making a significantly positive contribution defensively, that all combined for a 3.5 WAR season, far ahead of the value Brown contributed at the major league level this season..
Rating last year's rookies-Community Prospect #11
by Dalman on Nov 17, 2011 7:30 AM EST
on Minor League Ball
Mike Moustakas takes round 10 of the voting for best of last year's rookies for future performance, making Kansas City the fourth team to have a pair of players on this list.
1. Brett Lawrie, 3b Toronto Blue Jays (51%)
2, Eric Hosmer, 1b Kansas City Royals (57%)
3. Michael Pineda, P Seattle Mariners (38%)
4. Dustin Ackley, 2b Seattle Mariners (41%)
5. Desmond Jennings, of Tampa Bay Rays (47%)
6. Jeremy Hellickson, P Tampa Bay Rays (49%)
7. Freddie Freeman, 1B Atlanta Braves (45%)
8. Brandon Beachy, P Atlanta Braves (27%)
9. Brandon Belt, OF/!B San Francisco Giants (33%)
10. Mike Moustakas, 3b Kansas City Royals (38%)
Rating last year's rookies-Community Prospect #10
by Dalman on Nov 16, 2011 6:54 AM EST
on Minor League Ball
With 33% of the vote, Brandon Belt becomes our second Brandon and also our second national leaguer in a row to win a round, securing round 9 of the voting for top prospect for future performance among last year's rookies.
1. Brett Lawrie, 3b Toronto Blue Jays (51%)
2, Eric Hosmer, 1b Kansas City Royals (57%)
3. Michael Pineda, P Seattle Mariners (38%)
4. Dustin Ackley, 2b Seattle Mariners (41%)
5. Desmond Jennings, of Tampa Bay Rays (47%)
6. Jeremy Hellickson, P Tampa Bay Rays (49%)
7. Freddie Freeman, 1B Atlanta Braves (45%)
8. Brandon Beachy, P Atlanta Braves (27%)
9. Brandon Belt, OF/!B San Francisco Giants (33%)
Rating last year's rookies-Community Prospect #9
by Dalman on Nov 15, 2011 9:56 AM EST
on Minor League Ball
Although far from a consensus pick, garnering just 27% of the vote, Brandon Beachy still manages to get some separation on all of the other candidates and wins round 8 of the voting for top prospect for future performance among last year's rookies.
1. Brett Lawrie, 3b Toronto Blue Jays (51%)
2, Eric Hosmer, 1b Kansas City Royals (57%)
3. Michael Pineda, P Seattle Mariners (38%)
4. Dustin Ackley, 2b Seattle Mariners (41%)
5. Desmond Jennings, of Tampa Bay Rays (47%)
6. Jeremy Hellickson, P Tampa Bay Rays (49%)
7. Freddie Freeman, 1B Atlanta Braves (45%)
8. Brandon Beachy, P Atlanta Braves (27%)
Rating last year's rookies-Community Prospect #8
by Dalman on Nov 14, 2011 7:04 AM EST
on Minor League Ball
The shutout is broken as Freddie Freeman becomes the first player among last year's NL rookies to be rated a top prospect for future performance, coming in at #7.
1. Brett Lawrie, 3b Toronto Blue Jays (51%)
2, Eric Hosmer, 1b Kansas City Royals (57%)
3. Michael Pineda, P Seattle Mariners (38%)
4. Dustin Ackley, 2b Seattle Mariners (41%)
5. Desmond Jennings, of Tampa Bay Rays (47%)
6. Jeremy Hellickson, P Tampa Bay Rays (49%)
7. Freddie Freeman, 1B Atlanta Braves (45%)
Rating last year's rookies-Community Prospect #7
by Dalman on Nov 13, 2011 12:14 AM EST
on Minor League Ball
Although this may be as far as it goes, Jeremy Hellickson extends the American League's streak streak out to 6 in a row, It's also the second pair of team mates in the first 6.
1. Brett Lawrie, 3b Toronto Blue Jays (51%)
2, Eric Hosmer, 1b Kansas City Royals (57%)
3. Michael Pineda, P Seattle Mariners (38%)
4. Dustin Ackley, 2b Seattle Mariners (41%)
5. Desmond Jennings, of Tampa Bay Rays (47%)
6. Jeremy Hellickson, P Tampa Bay Rays (49%)
Rating last year's rookies-Community Prospect #6
by Dalman on Nov 12, 2011 8:07 AM EST
on Minor League Ball
With the victory of Desmond Jennings in round 5, the American League extends its winning streak to five in a row, not to mention that the leading candidate for round 6 based on last round's vote is also an American Leaguer.
1. Brett Lawrie, 3b Toronto Blue Jays (51%)
2, Eric Hosmer, 1b Kansas City Royals (57%)
3. Michael Pineda, P Seattle Mariners (38%)
4. Dustin Ackley, 2b Seattle Mariners (41%)
5. Desmond Jennings, of Tampa Bay Rays (47%)
Rating Last year's rookies-Community Prospect #5
by Dalman on Nov 11, 2011 12:46 AM EST
on Minor League Ball
For a little while it looked like we might have our first runoff, and given the contrasting skill sets, Jennings vs. Ackley would have made for an interesting one. But, in the end Dustin Ackley pulled it out, making him our fourth best prospect for future performance among last year's rookies.
1. Brett Lawrie, 3b Toronto Blue Jays (51%)
2, Eric Hosmer, 1b Kansas City Royals (57%)
3. Michael Pineda, P Seattle Mariners (38%)
4. Dustin Ackley, 2b Seattle Mariners (41%)
The voting breakdown for the fourth round after Ackley was: Desmond Jennings 35%, Jeremy Hellickson 9%, Freddie Freeman 7%, Paul Goldschmidt 4%, Mike Moustakas 2%, Brandon Belt 2%, Jason Kipnis, Chris Sale, Kyle Drabek, Mark Trumbo and Zach Britton all at 0%
I'm going to keep everyone who got a vote (including Moustakas and Belt who were write in candidates last round) and drop everyone who didn't get a vote. We'll rotate back in Wilson Ramos (yes, I know what is going on but it is hardly a reason to take him off the ballot), Jordan Walden, and Craig Kimbrel.
In rotation: Aroldis Chapman 0% (round 3), Cory Luebke 0% (round 3), Jemile Weeks 0% (round 3), Dominic Brown 0% (round 3), Jason Kipnis 0% (round 4), Chris Sale 0% (round 40, Kyle Drabek 0% (round 4), Mark Trumbo 0% (round 4), Zach Britton 0% (round 4)
We'll give Danny Espinosa and Ivan Nova a first chance on the ballot this round. This leaves as testers for the upcoming rounds:
Brandon Beachy, Henderson Alvarez, Danny Duffy, Vance Worley, Josh Collmenter, Kenley Jansen, Jose Altuve, Lucas Duda and Dayan Viciedo.
As always voting is by +1 and there are places below to suggest testers or vote for players not currently on the ballot.
So, who is your #5 prospect for future performance among last year's rookies?
Rating last year's rookies-Community Prospect #4
by Dalman on Nov 9, 2011 11:17 PM EST
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Closest voting so far, but Michael Pineda emerges as the winner in round #3
1. Brett Lawrie, 3b Toronto Blue Jays (51%)
2, Eric Hosmer, 1b Kansas City Royals (57%)
3. Michael Pineda, P Seattle Mariners (38%)
The voting breakdown for the third round after Pineda was: Dustin Ackely 30%, Desmond Jennings 18%, Jeremy Hellickson 10%, Goldschmidt 3%, Freeman 3%, Kimbrel, Moustakas, Chapman, Luebke, Weeks and Brown all at 0%
Once again we'll keep everyone who got a vote. We'll drop everyone who got no votes, although not for long, with Moustakas in particular getting back on for sure in round 5 We'll rotate Kipnis and Sale back in this round.
In rotation: Ramos (0% in round 2 and best wishes for his speedy and safe return), Walden (0% round 2), Craig Kimbrel (0% round 3), Mike Moustakas (0% round 3), Aroldis Chapman (0% round 3), Cory Luebke (0% round 3), Jemile Weeks (0% round 3), Dominic Brown (0% round 3).
We'll try for the first time from among the testers; Kyle Drabek, Mark Trumbo and Zach Britton. This leaves as testers for upcoming rounds:
Danny Espinosa, Brandon Beacy, Ivan Nova, Henderson Alvarez, Danny Duffy, Vance Worley, Josh Collmenter, Kenley Jansen and Jose Altuve.
As always voting is by +1 and there are places below to add testers or vote for players not currently on the ballot.
So, who is your #4 prospect for future performance among this last season's rookies?
Rating last year's rookies-Community prospect #3
by Dalman on Nov 9, 2011 12:19 PM EST
on Minor League Ball
The results from round 2 are in and the #2 prospect for future performance among last year's rookies is Eric Hosmer. So far we have:
1. Brett Lawrie, 3b Toronto Blue Jays (51%)
2. Eric Hosmer, 1b Kansas City Royals (57%)
The voting breakdown for the second round after Hosmer was: Ackley 19%, Pineda 16%, Jennings 5%, Goldschmidt 3%, Hellickson, Kimbrel, Kipnis, Ramos and Walden all at 0%.
Hellickson and Kimbrel actually got some support the prior round so I'll leave them on the ballot this round in addition to everyone who got a vote. Kipnis (for one round) and Ramos and Walden (for two rounds) come off the ballot for now. I'll bring back Freeman, Moustakas and Chapman this round. Sale will stay off for one more round.
First time on the ballot this round for Cory Luebke, Jemile Weeks and Dominic Brown.
Other testers that we will be getting to in the next few rounds are Kyle Drabek, Mark Trumbo, Danny Espinosa, Zack Britton, Brandon Beachy, Ivan Nova, Henderson Alvarez and Danny Duffy
As always, voting is by #1 and there are places to add testers or vote for players not on the current ballot below
So, who is your #3 prospect for future performance among last year's rookies?
Rating last year's rookies- Community Prospect #2
by Dalman on Nov 8, 2011 12:06 AM EST
on Minor League Ball
The results are in and the rookie from last year's class who we think has the best future ahead of him is Brett Lawrie. Actually makes me kind of sad as a reminder that while I won my fantasy league this year I had to trade Lawrie to do it, a price I will regret paying for many years to come. But I digress
Community rating-last year's rookies #1
by Dalman on Nov 6, 2011 10:55 PM EST
on Minor League Ball
I know the communitity prospect list has also just kicked off, but that will be going far too long for it to make any sense to wait for that to finish before starting this one. This is the third year in a row we have done this, and we'll be doing it essentially the same way as last year, by +1 voting. The idea is to look at the group of players who used up their rookie status last year, and as a result are no longer "prospects" and rate them for expected future performance. Obviously, that is a somewhat different criteria than is used in rookie of the year voting, and typically our voting, focused on future performance, has come up with very different results than the ROY voting.
The obvious place to start iin trying to find a #1 player for this list is the players who were at the top of our and John's prospect lists last year and who had strong debuts. Moustakas, Hosmer, Freeman, Ackley, Lawrie, Jennings, and Kipnis (among hitters) and Hellickson, Pineda, Sale, Chapman and Kimbrel (among pitchers) seem like the best fits and will make up the initial ballot.
I'm certainly not forgetting Danny Espinosa, Wilson Ramos, Jordan Walden, Kyle Drabek, Zach Britton, Jemile Weeks, and Mark Trumbo who will be among the early testers and there is another group I'm looking at soon after that. If you think they deserve a vote now you can add them below, but I'm guessing that if we cycle them in for the coming rounds they'll be in early enough.
As has been discussed in the community prospect list poll, the general idea will be to drop players who get less than 5% of the vote, but especially in the beginning I am going to use some discretion on that if one or two players get the vast majority of the votes. We'll try to keep runoffs to a minimum, but especially early on I won't hesitate to use them if voting is very close and we can't tell who would likely have won a head to head vote.
So, who is your number 1 prospect for future performance among last year's rookies?
Looking back at the rookie class of 2010 and at the top of the ballot in 2011
by Dalman on Nov 6, 2011 12:39 AM EDT
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Having been until recently, more than a little distracted by the fortunes of the Rangers, I've recently caught up with my sleep enough to consider starting the annual "last year's rookies" rankings. As you probably recall, the project is to rank last year's rookies as if they were still prospects, based on their expected future performance.
Last year's list was definitely something of a mixed bag this season. As a reminder, here it is:
1. Jason Heyward, outfielder Atlanta Braves
2. Buster Posey, catcher San Francisco Giants
3. Stephen Strasburg, pitcher Washington Nationals
4. Carlos Santana, catcher Cleveland Indians
5. Michael Stanton, outfielder Florida Marlins
6. Madison Bumgarner, pitcher San Francisco Giants
7. Starlin Castro, shortstop Chicago Cubs
8. Brian Matusz, Pitcher Baltimore Orioles
9. Pedro Alvarez, third base, Pittsburgh Pirates
10. Neftali Feliz, pitcher, Texas Rangers
11. Logan Morrison, outfielder Florida Marlins
12. Jhoulys Chacin, pitcher Colorado Rockies
13. Daniel Hudson, pitcher Arizona Diamondbacks
14. Justin Smoak, first base, Seattle Mariners
15. Jaime Garcia, pitcher St Louis Cardinals
16t. Austin Jackson, outfielder Detroit Tigers
16t. Ryan Kalish, outfielder, Boston Red Sox
16t. Wade Davis, pitcher Tampa Bay Rays
19. Ike Davis, first base, New York Mets
20. Travis Wood, pitcher Cincinnati Reds
21. Neil Walker, second base Pittsburgh Pirates
22. Jenrry Mejia, pitcher New York Mets
23. Tyler Colvin, outfielder, Chicago Cubs
24, Reid Brignac, middle infielder Tampa Bay Rays
25. Jose Tabata, outfielder Pittsburgh Pirates
26. John Jaso, catcher Tampa Bay Rays
27. Michael Saunders, outfield Seattle Mariners
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