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Reiteration of Domination: Tale of the (Blue) Chips, Part Deux
Following National Signing Day last year, the St. Petersburg Times had a nifty visual aid that I found eye-opening. I thought it was fanpost worthy and created one that you can read here. Well, this year the name of the newspaper is different (the St. Petersburg Times is now the "Tampa Bay Times"), but the content remains relatively the same (they're big into recycling). So, without further ado, here is the 2012 visual of FSU's recruiting versus in-state rivals:
First off, to be clear, this is a different approach to evaluating recruits. The Times values a recruit, not by any technical evaluation, but by simply how many services include the recruit in its top 100. A bit crude, but for some reason I like it.
Second, apparently neither USF nor UCF pulled a player ranked in the top 100 by at least one service? Wow. There will never be a "Big 5" until those two schools start recruiting big.
Finally, by comparing last year's haul with this year's class, you can quickly see that this year wasn't quite as dominant in terms of overall numbers for FSU. Still, this year Florida State took as many recruits ranked in the top 100 of all four recruiting services as all other Florida schools combined. Think about that for a minute. UF took 18 high school recruits this year (not including kickers). Miami took a whopping 31. FSU took just 15, 3 fewer than UF and 16 fewer than Miami. Yet, the Noles still had more top recruits than any other Florida school. Impressive.
Again, enough cannot be said about the recruiting job that FSU's staff has done over the last two years. Of course, now expectations will only be higher than ever. We'll see if Jimbo & Co. can collect a few more wins this year to appease the rabid Nole fan base.
A bonus poll for you after the jump.
The Signing Day Forgotten
Slow news day so I thought I would post this article I found from the Tampa Bay Times (formerly St. Pete Times).
Maybe someone with more recruiting expertise can opine as to why some of these guys are overlooked. Seems like the major factor cited in the article is size (or lack thereof).
But, then again, Pasco's QB is 6'5".... so maybe for him it's competition. He led his team to the 5A state semifinals.
LIVE closing arguments in Ereck Plancher v. UCF trial.
Although not directly related to FSU, this trial may be of interest to FSU fans because:
A) Plancher died in an eerily similar way as FSU player, Devaughn Darling, down to the same sickle-cell trait. Some have linked Darling's death, and the subsequent changes to mat drills, as a cause of FSU's decline in the 2000's.
2) UCF, although not a direct rival, has been on the rise (relatively speaking). Recently, UCF stole 3 really good recruits out of UM's backyard. They also won their conference last year.
d) Steve Yerrid is the Plancher's attorney. He is a well-known trial attorney with multiple million-dollar awards.
iv) Admittedly, I have not been following this case closely. However, some are saying a verdict in favor of Plancher could change the landscape of college football. I don't know if this is hyperbole or a legitimate possibility.
FSU's 2011 Recruiting Domination in the State of Florida
Yesterday's St. Petersburg Times included a nice visual showing just how dominant Florida State's recruiting class is this year. This perspective categorizes the recruits based on how many recruiting services rank the player in the nation's top 100 for 2011. I apologize in advance for the unsophisticated scan job.

Since the color may not come across well scanned, I'll break it down. A recruit ranked in the nation's top 100 by all 3 services is shown as a blue chip recruit. A recruit ranked in the top 100 by 2 services is a red chip recruit. Recruits ranked in the top 100 by only one service is a green recruit.
Blue = 3 services (FSU: 5, UF: 2, UM: 1, USF: 0, UCF: 0)
Red = 2 services (FSU: 2, UF: 2, UM: 0, USF: 0, UCF: 0)
Green = 1 service (FSU: 4, UF: 3, UM: 2, USF: 0, UCF: 0
As you can see, FSU totally dominated the State. In fact, FSU had more blue chip recruits than all of the other Florida schools combined. FSU had five, the rest of the state had three (UF two and UM one). Had Traitor... I mean, Tony Steward not flipped to Clem$on, FSU would have doubled the rest of the state. FSU also had more ranked recruits than all of the other Florida schools combined. FSU had eleven, the rest of the state, ten (UF seven and UM three).
Notably, USF and UCF did not have a single recruit ranked in the nation's top 100 by any service. So much for the "Big 5" argument - at least in 2011 recruiting.
In addition, many of FSU's lower-ranked recruits are "sleepers." For various reasons, some of FSU's 2011 guys were not evaluated by the services until late in the game.
FSU's recruiting domination of the ACC has already been well documented here. However, what surprises me is the complete and utter domination of UF and UM. Some will correctly argue that FSU should have dominated UF and UM as both programs are in transition. In addition, they both had bad years on the field. However, these arguments fail to recognize that FSU had a vast majority of its recruits BEFORE Meyer quit and Shannon got canned. Realistically, the turmoil surrounding the rival programs should help FSU more in 2012 than 2011.
Please use this information liberally in conversations with Gata and Cane-vict fans. It's a good time to be a Nole.
Emotional Lee Corso Video at ESPN Awards Ceremony
Great post from Andrew Carter. Be careful where you watch this. Your co-workers may see you shed a tear.
Oklahoma starting 2 true freshmen and 7 on the 2-deep
This could be interpreted at least two ways: 1) Oklahoma is not as deep as some have originally thought or 2) maybe Oklahoma's recruiting class was just that good. In one instance, a true freshmen WR beat out a senior.
8-Minute ESPN Radio Interview with Jimbo
Go halfway down the page. The middle column has a "Radio" box. Jimbo's interview is the second interview under Beano Cook's interview (about the Arkansas radio announcer that lost her job for wearing a UF hat).
Jimbo talks Ponder, the loss of McCray and Fortson, JaMarcus Russell, the early Oklahoma game.
Former FSU recruit Fred Pickett dismissed from Marshall for allegedly robbing pizza delivery guy.
I recall FSU coaches were high on him and then cooled. Maybe this is why...
ACC Football Kickoff
Link to the ACC's Football Kickoff press release for the upcoming weekend. They include some notable links. Apparently, we should be able to watch some of the pressers online.
It's Football time folks!
SBNation Buffalo Bills fans debate Ponder v. Locker
Apparently, it's so bad in Buffalo that they're looking forward to the 2011 draft for potential QBs.
As I skimmed the comments, it occurred to me that these fans could use some Ponder-ing (i.e. enlightenment) from those who know him best.
Posey on fire: hits 8th homer, has 12-game hitting streak!
"Triple-A baseball isn't very good" - Giants GM Brian Sabean when asked when Buster Posey would be promoted.
Maybe AAA isn't very good, Mr. Sabean, but Buster Posey certainly is. Yes sir, Posey is hammering Major League pitching now.
Michigan's Self-Imposed Sanctions: FSU Scandal Part Deux?
Rich Rod's tenure may be shorter than anyone anticipated at Michigan. Regardless of what the NCAA does, I'm sure the self-imposed sanctions (cutting practice time) doesn't help Michigan's chances of winning games.
Ponder These Plays
FSU's 2010 Heisman Candidate at work.
If this doesn't get you pumped for 2010, I don't know what will.
I HEART Longo
In honor of the upcoming t-shirt giveaway at the Trop, check out the Boston fan crying about Longo trying to steal his chick. Memo to poor Red Sox plebeian: you lose.
Link provided by the St. Pete Times, who put the story on the front page of their website this morning.
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Some Eye-Opening comments from Odell Haggins.
Great read. Couple of comments really stood out to me:
- Coach Viloria has been a huge asset to the football program. The kids get the work done, and the weight room is high energy.
- Every coach has a hand in the kids’ academics. All kids are ultimately accountable to Jimbo himself, who has a first hand interest in their progress.
- Odell feels like it’s his first year coaching again. He feels a renewed energy just he hasn’t had in years. While he loved Bowden, he’s all in with Jimbo’s philosophy.
- They are already researching 2012 and 2013 kids. Character has been a huge priority, and Jimbo has touched on recruiting each and every morning in the coaches meeting. To those that follow the stars on the internet, believe that each and every one of the 3 star kids was HEAVILY evaluated by the coaching staff.
Q: How has it been working with defensive ends coach D.J. Eliot?
A: He’s a young guy but he knows his stuff, and very high energy. There’s a lot more communication now. The defensive line is supposed to be a single unit, so there’s a lot more meshing than there has been in the past.
Check out the article, there's more great quotes from O'Dell. Folks are getting real excited about the Jimbo Fisher Revival.
Weight Gain Analysis from AC
One thing I think has happened is that the new spring guide is listing actual weight, not what the player claims to weigh like in years past.
Ponder's Rehab
Glad to hear things are going well for Ponder. This statement has me absolutely giddy though:
Fisher said: "He was [upset] because the ball was on the right shoulder and not the left shoulder and him being picky about himself, which as his strength gets back his accuracy will really come in."
Dungy chooses Oregon
Although it would have been nice to have the Dungy name associated with the program, this is probably the best move for the kid. Honestly, I don't think he would have ever seen the field with the DB class we're bringing in.
Postseason top 100 HS recruits
per ThaRinger. FSU has 3 commits and could have up to 7 or 8 on NSD.
Corey Clark: Stoops not coming; Green & Shaw are...
Of course, these are all rumors, but then again that's what the internet is for right?
Allegedly, Stoops isn't going to be the next DC b/c he's not a "viable candidate" (not sure if I believe this).
Christian Green and Kenny Shaw are silent commits to the Noles. This corresponds with what most on TN have been saying.
Sunseri not contacted by FSU as of Monday night
Could this mean Jimbo's still talking to Smart? Or are they looking somewhere else?
Top Trick Plays of Bowden Era
I didn't realize that Auburn had all of our play calls in '85. I guess that explains the 59-27 beatdown they gave us...
Wake Forest sneaking top talent out of South Florida
Wake Forest has 5, count them f-i-v-e, commitments of the top 20 high school recruits in Palm Beach County according to the Palm Beach Post. Three of those are from famed Pahokee.
UF? They have 2 (granted in the top 5). FSU? Two. Miami? Uno. USF? One. I think Jim Grobe & Co. realize there is a TON of top talent in SoFla - with plenty to spare after the big 4 get theirs...
Interesting Perspective on BB Retirement from WR's Dent and Johnson
"I’m not really upset about it. I feel like (Bowden) was already going to leave anyway." - Johnson
"It really doesn’t bother me," Dent said of Bowden’s departure. "Some of the coaches were telling me Jimbo was calling the shots anyway."
Manuel wins ACC Rookie of the Week Honors!
Congrats E.J.!
The guy had ice in his veins Saturday and showed FSU fans that the future will be bright with this guy at the helm.
Ponder will be eligible for April's NFL Draft and will have his MBA degree in hand after the spring semester. But Ponder said on Thursday that he's pretty set on returning for his senior season.
Ponder has access to the opinion of the NFL college advisory committee that provides underclassmen with a general evaluation of where they will go in the draft
"I'll take an evaluation after the season and see what's up," he said. "But I think I pretty much have my mind set unless something crazy happens."
That means coming back?
"Yeah. I think so," he said.
Ponder & Datko win ACC player of the week accolades!
Ponder wins offensive back, Datko offensive line of the week.
3 Clemson kids - Spiller, Parker & McDaniel take away other awards.
Both Ponder and the offensive line are well-deserving of the awards. Also, Rod Owens should get some sort of honorable mention.
Steve Ellis' take on tonight's game and recruiting.
Nice article on tonight's game and the possible impact on recruiting. I think the damage is done. Even if we win tonight, recruits aren't going to be lining up to sign with us in Feb.
Fisher & Co. have their toughest job ahead of them yet in preventing what potentially could be a disastrous recruiting class.
There is hope!
There is still hope for FSU to win the ACC Atlantic Division. Ok, so it's a slim hope. Especially given our offensive defensive performance over the last couple weeks. However, during these dark times, Nole fans need a glimpse of something positive.
Here are the current ACC standings:
| (As Of October 19) | ||||
| ATLANTIC DIVISION | ||||
| School | Conference | Pct. | Overall | Pct. |
| Boston College | 3-2 | .600 | 5-2 | .714 |
| Wake Forest | 2-2 | .500 | 4-3 | .571 |
| Clemson | 2-2 | .500 | 3-3 | .500 |
| Maryland | 1-2 | .333 | 2-5 | .286 |
| NC State | 0-3 | .000 | 3-4 | .429 |
| Florida State | 0-3 | .000 | 2-4 | .333 |
| COASTAL DIVISION | ||||
| School | Conference | Pct. | Overall | Pct. |
| Virginia | 2-0 | 1.000 | 3-3 | .500 |
| Georgia Tech | 4-1 | .800 | 6-1 | .857 |
| Miami | 2-1 | .667 | 5-1 | .833 |
| Virginia Tech | 3-1 | .750 | 5-2 | .714 |
| Duke | 1-1 | .500 | 3-3 | .500 |
| North Carolina | 0-2 | .000 | 4-2 | .667 |
Boy that looks bad. However, we still have NC, NC State, WF, Clemson and Maryland left on our schedule. BC currently leads the Atlantic, but has away games at Virginia (who is inexplicably atop the Coastal division) and Maryland and one home game against NC. If FSU wins out and BC loses 2 of 3, FSU goes to the ACCCG. If FSU wins out and BC goes 2-1, then BC goes to the ACCCG because of the head-to-head. If FSU wins out, BC goes 2-1 and one or more teams end up with 3 ACC losses, then a tie-breaker will ensue based on the following obnoxious policy:
ACC Football Tiebreaker Policy
The Atlantic Coast Conference Championship will be decided by a game between the Atlantic and Coastal Division Champions. The team in each division with the highest percentage of wins during all regular-season Conference competition shall be declared the division champion. If two or more teams are tied with the highest percentage of wins, they shall be declared division co-champions. Division standings will be calculated on a percentage basis, using only those Conference games which are a part of the regular rotating schedule. In the event of division co-champions, the following tie-breaker procedure will be used to determine that divisions’ representative to the championship game.
A. Two-Team Tie
- Head-to-head competition between the two tied teams.
- Records of the tied teams within the division.
- Head-to-head competition versus the team within the division with the best overall record (divisional). Conference record and proceeding though the division. Multiple ties within the division broken from first to last.
- Overall record versus all common non-divisional opponents.
- Combined record versus all non-divisional teams.
- Record versus common non-divisional teams based on their order of finish (divisional and non-divisional) and proceeding through other common non-divisional teams based on their order of finish within their division.
- The tied team with the highest ranking in the Bowl Championship Series Standings following the end of regular season games shall be the divisional representative in the ACC Championship Game.
- The representative shall be chosen by a draw.
B. Three (or More) Team Tie
(Once tie has been reduced to two teams, the two-team tiebreaker format is used)
- Combined head-to-head record among the tied teams.
- Records of the tied teams within the division.
- Head-to-head competition versus the team within the division with the best overall (divisional or conference) record, and proceeding through the division. Multiple ties within the division will be broken first to last.
- Overall record for non-divisional teams.
- Combined record versus all common non-divisional teams.
- Record versus common non-divisional with the best overall Conference (divisional and non-divisional record) and proceeding through the other common non-divisional teams based on their order of finish within the division.
- The tied team with the highest ranking in the Bowl Championship Series Standings following the conclusion of regular season games shall be the divisional representative in the ACC Championship Game, unless the second of the tied teams is ranked within five-or-fewer places of the highest ranked tied team. In this case, the head-to-head results of the top two ranked tied teams shall determine the representative in the ACC Championship Game.
- The representative shall be chosen by a draw.
Seriously, could they have made the tie-breaker policy any more confusing? I think they just threw in every possible tie-breaker they could think of to cover all the bases.
Basically, FSU still has a slim chance of making the ACCCG - I just wouldn't buy those ACCCG tickets just yet. However, the Noles will need to win out and root for BC to lose 2 of 3. I think, at best, we'll probably lose at least 1 ACC game the rest of the way. But, hey, stranger things have happened... this is the ACC we're talking about.
Facebook Group - Rebl Against the Blackout
"GARNET AND GOLD! These are the colors that everyone should be wearing at the game this Saturday against Georgia Tech. Whiteout, Blackout, they are all gimics and NEVER work unless we are playing some terrible team like Duke. (and lost to USF in white). Our black uniform/BlackOut record is a miserable 1-2.
Go against the gimics and trendy bullshit and stick to tradition. Tradition and Bobby Bowden has been what won us 2 National Championships, all the way sporting the traditional GARNET AND GOLD. So put away the black outfits and wear the true Seminole colors to the game."
Truly, a case of the blind leading the blind.
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