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Turkoglu Is he what Toronto Needs

The core of the Toronto team is

Chris Bosh If he stays the team has a chance over time to do something relatively soon if not they would need to swing a large trade or build through the draft to become good.

Toronto has some nice pieces but they are counting on Turk to get all that potential to become a quality team, I don't think that is going to happen. 

Calderon

Q. Bouby

Chris Bosh 

Turkoglu

Bargnani

Problem with this line up is they don't have enough defense, and they don't have enough depth.

What the trade for Turk did was just to increase both of those problems and with out cap space to sign a big player next summer at least if they want to resign Bosh too they need to improve and it doesn't look too promising.

Was Turk the right move for them to make?

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Championships Where does Portland End up

There was a piece done by John Hollinger about All-time NBA Franchise Rankings.

Referenced already by dpnim in a fan shot.

So what Hollinger was doing was a comprehensive average of each year the team has been in existence putting emphasis on winning, winning and championships. His rating gave some credit to intangibles but of the teams I was looking at the intangibles only dropped Portland behind Utah and left the other teams I had access to 1-10 unaffected. 

Here are the current totals of championships owned by NBA teams

 

  • 17 — Boston Celtics (1957, 1959, 1960, 1961, 1962, 1963, 1964, 1965, 1966, 1968, 1969, 1974, 1976,1981, 1984, 1986, 2008)
  •  14 — Los Angeles Lakers (1949, 1950, 1952, 1953, 1954, 1972, 1980, 1982, 1985, 1987,1988, 2000, 2001, 2002)
  • 6 — Chicago Bulls (1991, 1992, 1993, 1996, 1997, 1998)
  • 4 — San Antonio Spurs (1999, 2003, 2005, 2007)
  • 3 —Golden State Warriors (1947, 1956, 1975)
  • – Detroit Pistons (1989, 1990, 2004)
  • 3 — Philadelphia 76ers  (1951, 1967, 1983) 
  • 2 — Houston Rockets (1994, 1995)
  • – New York Knickerbockers (1970, 1973)
  • 2 – Washington Bullets (1955, 1978)
  • 1 — Portland Trailblazers (1977)
  • 1 — Miami Heat (2006 )
  • 1 — Milwaukee Bucks (1971)
  • 1 — Hawks (1958)
  • 1 — Oklahoma City (1979) 
  • Edit note I took away the previous names of the team for simplicity 
  • My rating system would put more emphasis on championships because that is all that is important

     

    1. Celtics 2. Lakers     3.  Bulls    4. San Antonio    5. 76ers

    6. Detroit 7. Golden State 8. Houston  9. Knicks    10. Bullets

    11. Portland  12. Heat      13. Seattle   14. Bucks    15.  Hawks 

    With everyone below that as insignificant because they didn't win a championship.


    So where do the TrailBlazers end up in 2020? 

    What kind of wild expectations do we have of the team we have.

    I was listening on the Pod cast and they were saying they would be happy with one win in the championship.

    They mentioned they thought a nice 5-7 year run might open up.

    Assuming Kevin Pritchard is here for the next 11 years what are the expectations on Kevin Pritchard and management to bring in the pieces to keep us winning 

    Also assuming Nate McMillan is here in 11 years will he become the next Red Auerbach, 10+ championships or the next Rick Adelman good coach no rings (coaching styles aside)

    This is hard to predict, but this is more of a estimation.

    Obviously some of these teams could end up winning more, the question is will we have more then them more then the actual number.

    Poll
    Where do you see the Blazers on the All time most championships won list in the year 2020? So the Team has one championship add the number they will win in the next 11 years and you have your total
    16+ Championships, Ahead of Celtics and Lakers
    8 votes
    7-15 Championships They over take the Bulls
    8 votes
    5-6 Championships They over take the Spurs
    21 votes
    4 Championships
    19 votes
    3 Championships
    25 votes
    2 Championships Winning Only once with this team.
    9 votes
    1 Championship Winning no Further Championships
    4 votes

    94 votes | Poll has closed

    Continue reading this post »

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    Trade that could get our players back. Blake or Outlaw.

    Bullets
    I was reading a post over on bullets forever by Mike Prada and he pointed out a very interesting thing about non-guaranteed contracts

    "Now, there are only a few options available for the Wizards to cut salary. One would be to trade for a contract that is only partially guaranteed in 2009/10 on draft day. The only players that have contracts over 2 million dollars that are partially guaranteed are Jerry Stackhouse (7.3 million, only 2 million guaranteed), Greg Buckner (4.1 million, but only 1 million guaranteed), Chucky Atkins (3.8 million, not sure how much guaranteed), Steve Nash (13 million, all non-guaranteed), Steve Blake (4 million, non-guaranteed), Travis Outlaw (3 million, non-guaranteed), Bruce Bowen (4 million, non-guaranteed), Fabricio Oberto (3.8 million, non-guaranteed) and Matt Harpring (6.5 million, not sure how much guaranteed). The Wizards would have to trade a matching salary for one of those players and then cut them in order to save in 2009."

    Thats Team Amount Non-Guaranteed

    Portland 7 million (Blake, Outlaw)

    Phoenix 6 million (Per storyteller) 7 million
    guaranteed (Steve Nash)

    Utah ? 6.5 million ( Matt Harpring)

    Dallas, 5.3 million (Jerry Stackhouse),

    San Antonio 3.9 million (per storyteller)
    (50% Bowen, Oberto)

    OKC ? 3.8 million (Chucky Atkins)

    Memphis 3.1 million (Greg Buckner)

    I don't think we would be interested, but if the right deal came along sure

    We could get the number five pick or any number of other assets and then get our players back, if the right team wanted
    to cut expenses this year.

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    5/23 JD: What is your Summer Dedication

    So we have discussed the dedication of our players for the game.

    What is your dedication for the game during the off season?

    What have you done to support the Blazers even though its the off season

         Have you painted you face blazers red and black to a work picnic to show support

         Have you stayed up all night after a busy day following trade scenarios

         Have you traveled to Europe to do your own scouting trip to bring back to the edge.

        Have you made your own draft day scenario posting it first to another site and then                   decided that it needed more traffic so posted a link to that site on B-EDge.

         Have you gone on other team sites for the sole purpose of finding comments related               to the Blazers so you could give a blazer fan perspective

     

    Tell me your stories

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    Blazers Will Win Match 2 Revenge

     The Trail Blazers have a group of kids that are quickly becoming men. I don't know what will happen tonight but I do know Yao is not going to go perfect from the field. I do know Portland will not be playing the same uninspired defense that allowed nearly 60% FG shooting by Houston.

    The TrailBlazers are the best team after a time out in the League. I imagine this three day layoff as one giant timeout by Nate and when we come out of this time out we will be playing inspired ball.

     

    The Trailblazers length and Height advantage will at every position except Yao will catch up to the Rockets in a long series.

    Try and be classy Houston, We did send Drexler to you guys in the 1990's. 

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    Blazers Rookie of the Year

    I think that since the Trail Blazers had so many Rookies that helped contribute to the winning of our team this year that we should declare a Rookie of the Year for the TrailBlazers.  Because the rest of the league dosen't mean much anyways.

    The Candidates;

    Rudy Fernandez

    Rudy

    Greg ODEN

    oden85490991.jpg picture by drserver2004

    Nicolas Batum

    a2dd9a35-be19-4ec0-aaff-fb5818b587b.jpg Batum Dunkin on Pau picture by drserver2004

     

    Jerryd Bayless

    Jerrydwiththemove.jpg picture by drserver2004

    Poll
    Who is the Rookie of the Year for the Portland Trailblazers?
    Greg Oden
    59 votes
    Rudy Fernandez
    363 votes
    Nick Batum
    232 votes
    Jerryd Bayless
    4 votes
    Does Shav count as a Rookie?
    9 votes

    667 votes | Poll has closed

    Continue reading this post »

    132 comments  |  9 recs

    Oden Opens up a McDonald's, has some fun doing it

    8 months ago Photo_287_tiny Garden of ODEN 4 comments 0 recs

    Rudy Fernandez Shoots for the record

    Rudy is now back on pace to tie the 3's mark Set by Kerry Kittles of 158.

    With 10 games left the Blazer Rookie only in name has 138 with a nice 2/5 made a game. 

    At current pace he will tie the record.

    With recent games of 3, 4 and 5 threes in a game he is hot at the right time.

     The Ariza foul was seriously putting in Jeopardy the record, with four straight games two to injury and two to soreness of zero threes.

    The cold streak is over and I believe he will set his goal of setting this mark. 

    Poll
    Will Rudy set the record for 3's by a rookie?
    Yes
    156 votes
    No
    26 votes

    182 votes | Poll has closed

    33 comments  |  3 recs

    Goals: Rudy on Pace For Record

    Goals for individuals and teams are important to set and strive for it keeps players sharp.

    Number one goal is to make the playoffs, team comes first. 

    But individual goals are important too.

    Rudy has mentioned that one of his goals this season is to set the NBA rookie record of 3's made in a year. He has hit a 3 in every game he has played except the Boston game.  Thanks to last nights 4/8 from 3 he is on pace.

    top 2 Current record holder: 

    Kerry Kittles 1996-1997  -----  158

    Juan Carlos Navarro  2007-2008  ---- 156

    Soon to be new record holder

    Rudy Fernandez                     3 pointers                       

    Goal                                          159                              

    *Current Pace                         162                                 

    *79 thru 40 team games On Pace for 162 

    Oh yeah Fernandez is shooting better percentile then either of those shooters by a significant margin as well. 

    Fernandez  39.5 %  Kittles 37.7%  Navarro  36.1%

    Oden mentioned that his goal for the season was to get 10 pts and 10 rebounds per game. Iif he misses the same about of games in the second half of the season as he missed in the first numbers work out. I think the rebound goal doesn't look achievable, but I would like to think Greg could turn it on and get the points goal during the second half of the year. 

    Greg ODEN                 Points                       Rebounds

            Goal                          10                                10

            Current                    7.9                               6.8

            Needs                    12.1                              13.2

    What are some other goals individual blazers have set and are they on pace to achieve them? I think goals help keep players motivated in a long NBA season.

    Poll
    Are Rudy and Oden going to reach their goals this year?
    Rudy will Oden Points not Rebounds
    61 votes
    Rudy will Oden won't
    81 votes
    Rudy won't Oden will Points not Rebounds
    11 votes
    Rudy won't Oden will
    0 votes
    Rudy will Oden won't Points will Rebounds
    6 votes
    Rudy won't Oden won't Points will Rebounds
    5 votes
    Both will
    10 votes
    Both will not
    6 votes

    180 votes | Poll has closed

    9 comments  |  2 recs

    Rudy just needs to get more time and opportunity and he could end up with the rookie of the year. Batum 12th, Oden 17, Bayless 18th.

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