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Championships Where does Portland End up

Garden of ODEN — Fri, 12 Jun 2009 08:13:16 -0000

There was a piece done by John Hollinger about All-time NBA Franchise Rankings.

Referenced already by dpnim in a fan shot.

So what Hollinger was doing was a comprehensive average of each year the team has been in existence putting emphasis on winning, winning and championships. His rating gave some credit to intangibles but of the teams I was looking at the intangibles only dropped Portland behind Utah and left the other teams I had access to 1-10 unaffected.

Here are the current totals of championships owned by NBA teams

17 — Boston Celtics (1957, 1959, 1960, 1961, 1962, 1963, 1964, 1965, 1966, 1968, 1969, 1974, 1976,1981, 1984, 1986, 2008)

14 — Los Angeles Lakers (1949, 1950, 1952, 1953, 1954, 1972, 1980, 1982, 1985, 1987,1988, 2000, 2001, 2002)

6 — Chicago Bulls (1991, 1992, 1993, 1996, 1997, 1998)

4 — San Antonio Spurs (1999, 2003, 2005, 2007)

3 —Golden State Warriors (1947, 1956, 1975)

3 – Detroit Pistons (1989, 1990, 2004)

3 — Philadelphia 76ers (1951, 1967, 1983)

2 — Houston Rockets (1994, 1995)

2 – New York Knickerbockers (1970, 1973)

2 – Washington Bullets (1955, 1978)

1 — Portland Trailblazers (1977)

1 — Miami Heat (2006 )

1 — Milwaukee Bucks (1971)

1 — Hawks (1958)

1 — Oklahoma City (1979)

Edit note I took away the previous names of the team for simplicity

My rating system would put more emphasis on championships because that is all that is important

1. Celtics 2. Lakers 3. Bulls 4. San Antonio 5. 76ers

6. Detroit 7. Golden State 8. Houston 9. Knicks 10. Bullets

11. Portland 12. Heat 13. Seattle 14. Bucks 15. Hawks

With everyone below that as insignificant because they didn't win a championship.

So where do the TrailBlazers end up in 2020?

What kind of wild expectations do we have of the team we have.

I was listening on the Pod cast and they were saying they would be happy with one win in the championship.

They mentioned they thought a nice 5-7 year run might open up.

Assuming Kevin Pritchard is here for the next 11 years what are the expectations on Kevin Pritchard and management to bring in the pieces to keep us winning

Also assuming Nate McMillan is here in 11 years will he become the next Red Auerbach, 10+ championships or the next Rick Adelman good coach no rings (coaching styles aside)

This is hard to predict, but this is more of a estimation.

Obviously some of these teams could end up winning more, the question is will we have more then them more then the actual number.

I personally see us ahead of San Antonio and behind Chicago by the year 2025.

Poll

Where do you see the Blazers on the All time most championships won list in the year 2020? So the Team has one championship add the number they will win in the next 11 years and you have your total

16+ Championships, Ahead of Celtics and Lakers

8 votes

7-15 Championships They over take the Bulls

8 votes

5-6 Championships They over take the Spurs

21 votes

4 Championships

19 votes

3 Championships

25 votes

2 Championships Winning Only once with this team.

9 votes

1 Championship Winning no Further Championships

4 votes

94 votes | Poll has closed

Trade that could get our players back. Blake or Outlaw. Bullets I was reading a post over on...

Garden of ODEN — Mon, 08 Jun 2009 11:51:00 -0000

Trade that could get our players back. Blake or Outlaw.

Bullets
I was reading a post over on bullets forever by Mike Prada and he pointed out a very interesting thing about non-guaranteed contracts

"Now, there are only a few options available for the Wizards to cut salary. One would be to trade for a contract that is only partially guaranteed in 2009/10 on draft day. The only players that have contracts over 2 million dollars that are partially guaranteed are Jerry Stackhouse (7.3 million, only 2 million guaranteed), Greg Buckner (4.1 million, but only 1 million guaranteed), Chucky Atkins (3.8 million, not sure how much guaranteed), Steve Nash (13 million, all non-guaranteed), Steve Blake (4 million, non-guaranteed), Travis Outlaw (3 million, non-guaranteed), Bruce Bowen (4 million, non-guaranteed), Fabricio Oberto (3.8 million, non-guaranteed) and Matt Harpring (6.5 million, not sure how much guaranteed). The Wizards would have to trade a matching salary for one of those players and then cut them in order to save in 2009."

Thats Team Amount Non-Guaranteed

Portland 7 million (Blake, Outlaw)

Phoenix 6 million (Per storyteller) 7 million
guaranteed (Steve Nash)

Utah ? 6.5 million ( Matt Harpring)

Dallas, 5.3 million (Jerry Stackhouse),

San Antonio 3.9 million (per storyteller)
(50% Bowen, Oberto)

OKC ? 3.8 million (Chucky Atkins)

Memphis 3.1 million (Greg Buckner)

I don't think we would be interested, but if the right deal came along sure

We could get the number five pick or any number of other assets and then get our players back, if the right team wanted
to cut expenses this year.

5/23 JD: What is your Summer Dedication

Garden of ODEN — Sat, 23 May 2009 07:25:33 -0000

So we have discussed the dedication of our players for the game.

What is your dedication for the game during the off season?

What have you done to support the Blazers even though its the off season

Have you painted you face blazers red and black to a work picnic to show support

Have you stayed up all night after a busy day following trade scenarios

Have you traveled to Europe to do your own scouting trip to bring back to the edge.

Have you made your own draft day scenario posting it first to another site and then decided that it needed more traffic so posted a link to that site on B-EDge.

Have you gone on other team sites for the sole purpose of finding comments related to the Blazers so you could give a blazer fan perspective

Tell me your stories

Blazers Will Win Match 2 Revenge

Garden of ODEN — Tue, 21 Apr 2009 13:26:05 -0000

The Trail Blazers have a group of kids that are quickly becoming men. I don't know what will happen tonight but I do know Yao is not going to go perfect from the field. I do know Portland will not be playing the same uninspired defense that allowed nearly 60% FG shooting by Houston.

The TrailBlazers are the best team after a time out in the League. I imagine this three day layoff as one giant timeout by Nate and when we come out of this time out we will be playing inspired ball.

The Trailblazers length and Height advantage will at every position except Yao will catch up to the Rockets in a long series.

Try and be classy Houston, We did send Drexler to you guys in the 1990's.

Blazers Rookie of the Year

Garden of ODEN — Thu, 09 Apr 2009 20:40:53 -0000

I think that since the Trail Blazers had so many Rookies that helped contribute to the winning of our team this year that we should declare a Rookie of the Year for the TrailBlazers. Because the rest of the league dosen't mean much anyways.

The Candidates;

Rudy Fernandez

Greg ODEN

Nicolas Batum

Jerryd Bayless

Each of these players has played well enough in games this year to have us say this player is the reason we won this game today. Bayless too in a couple.

Rookie of the year (for the Trail blazers) Will be decided by who contributed most to the winning culture, and actually winning the games.

I don't want to lead people on in the voting because I would like to get a good vote.

but here are strengths of the players

Rudy Shooter/ Passer/ BB IQ

Oden Inspiration/Dunks/Defense

Batum Defense/ Hustle player

Bayless endless Energy/Dunks

Poll

Who is the Rookie of the Year for the Portland Trailblazers?

Greg Oden

59 votes

Rudy Fernandez

363 votes

Nick Batum

232 votes

Jerryd Bayless

4 votes

Does Shav count as a Rookie?

9 votes

667 votes | Poll has closed

Oden at McDonalds, New Blog

Garden of ODEN — Sun, 29 Mar 2009 05:55:46 -0000

Oden at McDonalds, New Blog

Oden Opens up a McDonald's, has some fun doing it

Rudy Fernandez Shoots for the record

Garden of ODEN — Fri, 27 Mar 2009 06:00:39 -0000

Rudy is now back on pace to tie the 3's mark Set by Kerry Kittles of 158.

With 10 games left the Blazer Rookie only in name has 138 with a nice 2/5 made a game.

At current pace he will tie the record.

With recent games of 3, 4 and 5 threes in a game he is hot at the right time.

The Ariza foul was seriously putting in Jeopardy the record, with four straight games two to injury and two to soreness of zero threes.

The cold streak is over and I believe he will set his goal of setting this mark.

Poll

Will Rudy set the record for 3's by a rookie?

Yes

156 votes

No

26 votes

182 votes | Poll has closed

Goals: Rudy on Pace For Record

Garden of ODEN — Mon, 19 Jan 2009 03:49:25 -0000

Goals for individuals and teams are important to set and strive for it keeps players sharp.

Number one goal is to make the playoffs, team comes first.

But individual goals are important too.

Rudy has mentioned that one of his goals this season is to set the NBA rookie record of 3's made in a year. He has hit a 3 in every game he has played except the Boston game. Thanks to last nights 4/8 from 3 he is on pace.

top 2 Current record holder:

Kerry Kittles 1996-1997 ----- 158

Juan Carlos Navarro 2007-2008 ---- 156

Soon to be new record holder

Rudy Fernandez 3 pointers

Goal 159

*Current Pace 162

*79 thru 40 team games On Pace for 162

Oh yeah Fernandez is shooting better percentile then either of those shooters by a significant margin as well.

Fernandez 39.5 % Kittles 37.7% Navarro 36.1%

Oden mentioned that his goal for the season was to get 10 pts and 10 rebounds per game. Iif he misses the same about of games in the second half of the season as he missed in the first numbers work out. I think the rebound goal doesn't look achievable, but I would like to think Greg could turn it on and get the points goal during the second half of the year.

Greg ODEN Points Rebounds

Goal 10 10

Current 7.9 6.8

Needs 12.1 13.2

What are some other goals individual blazers have set and are they on pace to achieve them? I think goals help keep players motivated in a long NBA season.

Poll

Are Rudy and Oden going to reach their goals this year?

Rudy will Oden Points not Rebounds

61 votes

Rudy will Oden won't

81 votes

Rudy won't Oden will Points not Rebounds

11 votes

Rudy won't Oden will

0 votes

Rudy will Oden won't Points will Rebounds

6 votes

Rudy won't Oden won't Points will Rebounds

5 votes

Both will

10 votes

Both will not

6 votes

180 votes | Poll has closed

Rudy Second in ROY Behind only Rose

Garden of ODEN — Tue, 04 Nov 2008 00:35:13 -0000

Rudy Second in ROY Behind only Rose

Rudy just needs to get more time and opportunity and he could end up with the rookie of the year. Batum 12th, Oden 17, Bayless 18th.

Rudy's Life history in Spanish, It has some video of him playing as a kid.

Garden of ODEN — Mon, 04 Aug 2008 07:42:18 -0000

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zaRd6RMF5LU

Rudy's Life history in Spanish, It has some video of him playing as a kid.