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Pat Y: Saints' Nightmare Scenario
"Since winning the Super Bowl in the 2009 season, the defense hasn’t been very good. ... Take Brees and the offense back down to what they were in 2007 and ’08"
For the record: In 2008, Brees threw for 5069 yards, and the offense was #1 overall, averaging 29 points/game. In 2010, the defense was 4th overall in yards allowed, and 7th in points allowed. Oh, what a nightmare that would be!
Junior, Concussions, and Depression
Hearing the news of Junior Seau's death was surprising. To hear that it was an apparent suicide (and for the sake of this commentary, I will assume that the current reports of suicide are correct while acknowledging that they are not conclusive) was shocking. At least, it was initially. After a few moments reflection, though, I remembered that suicide is in fact much more common than
What has been the most shocking to me, however, is how quickly various commentators have jumped to the conclusion that this was ultimately a result of chronic brain injury. No doubt Junior took plenty of shots to the head. And there is no doubt that he suffered multiple concussions. But I cannot help but be appalled at the automatic connection, as though only some form of brain trauma could possibly cause such aberrant behavior.
The truth is that clinical depression and suicide are far more prevalent than anyone wants to admit or reports. It's much easier to point the finger at some unreachable assailant, instead of accepting the fact that a person may simply no longer wish to live. That concept is so foreign to anyone that is enjoying or even muddling through life that to contemplate someone as successful, popular, and loved as Seau could do it without some external cause is all but impossible. I'm here to tell you that it is not only possible but likely. Concussions are bad. Repeated brain trauma can be deadly. Neither is necessary nor sufficient to account for suicidal depression. And the fact that all of the "experts" are so ready to place the blame on concussions, instead of, oh, I don't know, considering that maybe Junior suffered from severe depression after having to retire from the one profession he's known all his life ... it's just inexcusable.
I am deeply saddened by Junior's death, whatever the cause. I am even sadder that apparently no one in the public sphere (with the possible exception of Marcellus Wiley) has even allowed for the fact clinical depression, as opposed to brain trauma, could be the cause.
You know that stupid Cymbalta commercial? "Depression hurts". It doesn't just hurt ... it kills.
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CSC Survivor - There Can Be Only One
Thanks to unforeseeable collapses from the Ravens and Eagles, three more players were eliminated this week. And that means we have a winner. Congratulations! to Tac Hammer for ten straight weeks of solid picks. Tac, keep it going in the comments of this thread if you like. I, for one, would like to see just how far you can go. Collect your prize pictures below.
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CSC Survivor - Week 10
Are you happy, are you satisfied? Can you stand the heat? Are you ready, are you ready for this? Are you hanging on the edge of your seat?
| Player | Week 1 | Week 2 | Week 3 | Week 4 | Week 5 | Week 6 | Week 7 | Week 8 | Week 9 | Week 10 |
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| Jay Preece | HOU | DET | SD | GB | NO | PIT | DAL | BAL | ATL | PHI |
| MiamiSaints | ARI | PIT | SD | CHI | CIN | GB | NO | HOU | DAL | PHI |
| SaintsFanMD | SD | DAL | CAR | NO | NE | OAK | PIT | SF | HOU | BAL |
| Tac Hammer | SD | NYJ | TEN | TB | NE | PIT | DAL | NYG | NO | GB |
| Eliminated | ||||||||||
| AcquiredPanic | PHI | GB | PIT | NO | NYG | |||||
| alcoholic_insight | HOU | DET | SD | MIN | ||||||
| BlackandGold4ever | ARI | BAL | ||||||||
| bondcrash | NYJ | PIT | SD | GB | MIN | OAK | BAL | |||
| Breesus Christ Superstar | ARI | DET | BAL | TB | NYG | |||||
| cajuncommando58 | CHI | TB | DET | HOU | IND | |||||
| Cajun in CA | NYJ | PIT | SD | BUF | ||||||
| coldpizza | SD | CLE | CAR | CHI | CIN | PIT | OAK | |||
| Comp | SD | PIT | NYJ | |||||||
| cscmember | CAR | |||||||||
| Dang Hu Dat | DEN | |||||||||
| Dan Kelly | NE | DET | TEN | TB | NYG | |||||
| devilducky | GB | PIT | TEN | MIN | ||||||
| Dr.J | CLE | |||||||||
| Fat Punk Kicker | TEN | |||||||||
| FriarBob | ATL | |||||||||
| GRIZZ | NYG | |||||||||
| HB-NOLA | CLE | |||||||||
| horp the reckless | HOU | ––– | ||||||||
| hrp | CLE | |||||||||
| jeff.l.b | HOU | NO | PIT | BUF | ||||||
| Jimbo03 | HOU | DEN | BAL | NO | SD | GB | DAL | DET | OAK | |
| Joseph William Stern | CLE | |||||||||
| jray2000 | NE | ––– | ||||||||
| JRogers | TEN | |||||||||
| KilnBill | ATL | |||||||||
| mattxlegend | DEN | |||||||||
| maybetoday | CLE | |||||||||
| metryman | HOU | PIT | SD | GB | NYG | |||||
| mississippisaintsfan | DET | BUF | SD | NO | IND | |||||
| Northfan | KC | |||||||||
| NorthStarr | SD | PIT | PHI | |||||||
| Ponysaints | CLE | |||||||||
| saint_chew | DET | BUF | CIN | |||||||
| SaintsFanInIraq | PIT | |||||||||
| SAINTS#12 | CLE | |||||||||
| SarahT | PIT | |||||||||
| skinnykinney | KC | |||||||||
| snowboard_kat | ATL | |||||||||
| sXe hXc AMF | HOU | NO | DAL | ATL | NYG | |||||
| theprogrammerman | HOU | NYJ | PIT | GB | NO | CHI | BAL | |||
| Valmo | NO | |||||||||
| VAsaintsfan | KC | |||||||||
| Wiedmann | CLE | |||||||||
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CSC Survivor - Week 9
| Player | Week 1 | Week 2 | Week 3 | Week 4 | Week 5 | Week 6 | Week 7 | Week 8 | Week 9 |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Jay Preece | HOU | DET | SD | GB | NO | PIT | DAL | BAL | ATL |
| Jimbo03 | HOU | DEN | BAL | NO | SD | GB | DAL | DET | OAK |
| MiamiSaints | ARI | PIT | SD | CHI | CIN | GB | NO | HOU | DAL |
| SaintsFanMD | SD | DAL | CAR | NO | NE | OAK | PIT | SF | HOU |
| Tac Hammer | SD | NYJ | TEN | TB | NE | PIT | DAL | NYG | NO |
| Eliminated | |||||||||
| AcquiredPanic | PHI | GB | PIT | NO | NYG | ||||
| alcoholic_insight | HOU | DET | SD | MIN | |||||
| BlackandGold4ever | ARI | BAL | |||||||
| bondcrash | NYJ | PIT | SD | GB | MIN | OAK | BAL | ||
| Breesus Christ Superstar | ARI | DET | BAL | TB | NYG | ||||
| cajuncommando58 | CHI | TB | DET | HOU | IND | ||||
| Cajun in CA | NYJ | PIT | SD | BUF | |||||
| coldpizza | SD | CLE | CAR | CHI | CIN | PIT | OAK | ||
| Comp | SD | PIT | NYJ | ||||||
| cscmember | CAR | ||||||||
| Dang Hu Dat | DEN | ||||||||
| Dan Kelly | NE | DET | TEN | TB | NYG | ||||
| devilducky | GB | PIT | TEN | MIN | |||||
| Dr.J | CLE | ||||||||
| Fat Punk Kicker | TEN | ||||||||
| FriarBob | ATL | ||||||||
| GRIZZ | NYG | ||||||||
| HB-NOLA | CLE | ||||||||
| horp the reckless | HOU | ––– | |||||||
| hrp | CLE | ||||||||
| jeff.l.b | HOU | NO | PIT | BUF | |||||
| Joseph William Stern | CLE | ||||||||
| jray2000 | NE | ––– | |||||||
| JRogers | TEN | ||||||||
| KilnBill | ATL | ||||||||
| mattxlegend | DEN | ||||||||
| maybetoday | CLE | ||||||||
| metryman | HOU | PIT | SD | GB | NYG | ||||
| mississippisaintsfan | DET | BUF | SD | NO | IND | ||||
| Northfan | KC | ||||||||
| NorthStarr | SD | PIT | PHI | ||||||
| Ponysaints | CLE | ||||||||
| saint_chew | DET | BUF | CIN | ||||||
| SaintsFanInIraq | PIT | ||||||||
| SAINTS#12 | CLE | ||||||||
| SarahT | PIT | ||||||||
| skinnykinney | KC | ||||||||
| snowboard_kat | ATL | ||||||||
| sXe hXc AMF | HOU | NO | DAL | ATL | NYG | ||||
| theprogrammerman | HOU | NYJ | PIT | GB | NO | CHI | BAL | ||
| Valmo | NO | ||||||||
| VAsaintsfan | KC | ||||||||
| Wiedmann | CLE | ||||||||
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CSC Survivor - Week 8
| Player | Week 1 | Week 2 | Week 3 | Week 4 | Week 5 | Week 6 | Week 7 | Week 8 |
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| Jay Preece | HOU | DET | SD | GB | NO | PIT | DAL | BAL |
| Jimbo03 | HOU | DEN | BAL | NO | SD | GB | DAL | DET |
| MiamiSaints | ARI | PIT | SD | CHI | CIN | GB | NO | HOU |
| SaintsFanMD | SD | DAL | CAR | NO | NE | OAK | PIT | SF |
| Tac Hammer | SD | NYJ | TEN | TB | NE | PIT | DAL | NYG |
| Eliminated | ||||||||
| AcquiredPanic | PHI | GB | PIT | NO | NYG | |||
| alcoholic_insight | HOU | DET | SD | MIN | ||||
| BlackandGold4ever | ARI | BAL | ||||||
| bondcrash | NYJ | PIT | SD | GB | MIN | OAK | BAL | |
| Breesus Christ Superstar | ARI | DET | BAL | TB | NYG | |||
| cajuncommando58 | CHI | TB | DET | HOU | IND | |||
| Cajun in CA | NYJ | PIT | SD | BUF | ||||
| coldpizza | SD | CLE | CAR | CHI | CIN | PIT | OAK | |
| Comp | SD | PIT | NYJ | |||||
| cscmember | CAR | |||||||
| Dang Hu Dat | DEN | |||||||
| Dan Kelly | NE | DET | TEN | TB | NYG | |||
| devilducky | GB | PIT | TEN | MIN | ||||
| Dr.J | CLE | |||||||
| Fat Punk Kicker | TEN | |||||||
| FriarBob | ATL | |||||||
| GRIZZ | NYG | |||||||
| HB-NOLA | CLE | |||||||
| horp the reckless | HOU | ––– | ||||||
| hrp | CLE | |||||||
| jeff.l.b | HOU | NO | PIT | BUF | ||||
| Joseph William Stern | CLE | |||||||
| jray2000 | NE | ––– | ||||||
| JRogers | TEN | |||||||
| KilnBill | ATL | |||||||
| mattxlegend | DEN | |||||||
| maybetoday | CLE | |||||||
| metryman | HOU | PIT | SD | GB | NYG | |||
| mississippisaintsfan | DET | BUF | SD | NO | IND | |||
| Northfan | KC | |||||||
| NorthStarr | SD | PIT | PHI | |||||
| Ponysaints | CLE | |||||||
| saint_chew | DET | BUF | CIN | |||||
| SaintsFanInIraq | PIT | |||||||
| SAINTS#12 | CLE | |||||||
| SarahT | PIT | |||||||
| skinnykinney | KC | |||||||
| snowboard_kat | ATL | |||||||
| sXe hXc AMF | HOU | NO | DAL | ATL | NYG | |||
| theprogrammerman | HOU | NYJ | PIT | GB | NO | CHI | BAL | |
| Valmo | NO | |||||||
| VAsaintsfan | KC | |||||||
| Wiedmann | CLE | |||||||
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CSC Survivor - Week 7
For the first time this season, no one was eliminated. Good job folks. Let's see how long that lasts. All survivors still have at least a few teams in their pockets good for a "sure thing," but the numbers are dwindling. Shame no one took my dare of picking the Giants last week.
| Player | Week 1 | Week 2 | Week 3 | Week 4 | Week 5 | Week 6 | Week 7 |
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| bondcrash | NYJ | PIT | SD | GB | MIN | OAK | BAL |
| coldpizza | SD | CLE | CAR | CHI | CIN | PIT | OAK |
| Jay Preece | HOU | DET | SD | GB | NO | PIT | DAL |
| Jimbo03 | HOU | DEN | BAL | NO | SD | GB | DAL |
| MiamiSaints | ARI | PIT | SD | CHI | CIN | GB | NO |
| SaintsFanMD | SD | DAL | CAR | NO | NE | OAK | PIT |
| Tac Hammer | SD | NYJ | TEN | TB | NE | PIT | DAL |
| theprogrammerman | HOU | NYJ | PIT | GB | NO | CHI | BAL |
| Eliminated | |||||||
| AcquiredPanic | PHI | GB | PIT | NO | NYG | ||
| alcoholic_insight | HOU | DET | SD | MIN | |||
| BlackandGold4ever | ARI | BAL | |||||
| Breesus Christ Superstar | ARI | DET | BAL | TB | NYG | ||
| cajuncommando58 | CHI | TB | DET | HOU | IND | ||
| Cajun in CA | NYJ | PIT | SD | BUF | |||
| Comp | SD | PIT | NYJ | ||||
| cscmember | CAR | ||||||
| Dang Hu Dat | DEN | ||||||
| Dan Kelly | NE | DET | TEN | TB | NYG | ||
| devilducky | GB | PIT | TEN | MIN | |||
| Dr.J | CLE | ||||||
| Fat Punk Kicker | TEN | ||||||
| FriarBob | ATL | ||||||
| GRIZZ | NYG | ||||||
| HB-NOLA | CLE | ||||||
| horp the reckless | HOU | ––– | |||||
| hrp | CLE | ||||||
| jeff.l.b | HOU | NO | PIT | BUF | |||
| Joseph William Stern | CLE | ||||||
| jray2000 | NE | ––– | |||||
| JRogers | TEN | ||||||
| KilnBill | ATL | ||||||
| mattxlegend | DEN | ||||||
| maybetoday | CLE | ||||||
| metryman | HOU | PIT | SD | GB | NYG | ||
| mississippisaintsfan | DET | BUF | SD | NO | IND | ||
| Northfan | KC | ||||||
| NorthStarr | SD | PIT | PHI | ||||
| Ponysaints | CLE | ||||||
| saint_chew | DET | BUF | CIN | ||||
| SaintsFanInIraq | PIT | ||||||
| SAINTS#12 | CLE | ||||||
| SarahT | PIT | ||||||
| skinnykinney | KC | ||||||
| snowboard_kat | ATL | ||||||
| sXe hXc AMF | HOU | NO | DAL | ATL | NYG | ||
| Valmo | NO | ||||||
| VAsaintsfan | KC | ||||||
| Wiedmann | CLE | ||||||
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CSC Survivor - Week 6
| Player | Week 1 | Week 2 | Week 3 | Week 4 | Week 5 | Week 6 |
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| bondcrash | NYJ | PIT | SD | GB | MIN | OAK |
| coldpizza | SD | CLE | CAR | CHI | CIN | PIT |
| Jay Preece | HOU | DET | SD | GB | NO | PIT |
| Jimbo03 | HOU | DEN | BAL | NO | SD | GB |
| MiamiSaints | ARI | PIT | SD | CHI | CIN | GB |
| SaintsFanMD | SD | DAL | CAR | NO | NE | OAK |
| Tac Hammer | SD | NYJ | TEN | TB | NE | PIT |
| theprogrammerman | HOU | NYJ | PIT | GB | NO | CHI |
| Eliminated | ||||||
| AcquiredPanic | PHI | GB | PIT | NO | NYG | |
| alcoholic_insight | HOU | DET | SD | MIN | ||
| BlackandGold4ever | ARI | BAL | ||||
| Breesus Christ Superstar | ARI | DET | BAL | TB | NYG | |
| cajuncommando58 | CHI | TB | DET | HOU | IND | |
| Cajun in CA | NYJ | PIT | SD | BUF | ||
| Comp | SD | PIT | NYJ | |||
| cscmember | CAR | |||||
| Dang Hu Dat | DEN | |||||
| Dan Kelly | NE | DET | TEN | TB | NYG | |
| devilducky | GB | PIT | TEN | MIN | ||
| Dr.J | CLE | |||||
| Fat Punk Kicker | TEN | |||||
| FriarBob | ATL | |||||
| GRIZZ | NYG | |||||
| HB-NOLA | CLE | |||||
| horp the reckless | HOU | ––– | ||||
| hrp | CLE | |||||
| jeff.l.b | HOU | NO | PIT | BUF | ||
| Joseph William Stern | CLE | |||||
| jray2000 | NE | ––– | ||||
| JRogers | TEN | |||||
| KilnBill | ATL | |||||
| mattxlegend | DEN | |||||
| maybetoday | CLE | |||||
| metryman | HOU | PIT | SD | GB | NYG | |
| mississippisaintsfan | DET | BUF | SD | NO | IND | |
| Northfan | KC | |||||
| NorthStarr | SD | PIT | PHI | |||
| Ponysaints | CLE | |||||
| saint_chew | DET | BUF | CIN | |||
| SaintsFanInIraq | PIT | |||||
| SAINTS#12 | CLE | |||||
| SarahT | PIT | |||||
| skinnykinney | KC | |||||
| snowboard_kat | ATL | |||||
| sXe hXc AMF | HOU | NO | DAL | ATL | NYG | |
| Valmo | NO | |||||
| VAsaintsfan | KC | |||||
| Wiedmann | CLE | |||||
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Want to Watch Coaches' Film?
The NFL is conducting a survey to gauge fan interest in access to the full coaches' film for every play from every game. All-22 surely would be yet another over-priced product from the NFL, but it's value would be tremendous to the serious football junkies out there. Go take the survey and tell them how great this would be!
CSC Survivor - Week 5
| Player | Week 1 | Week 2 | Week 3 | Week 4 | Week 5 |
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| AcquiredPanic | PHI | GB | PIT | NO | NYG |
| bondcrash | NYJ | PIT | SD | GB | MIN |
| Breesus Christ Superstar | ARI | DET | BAL | TB | NYG |
| cajuncommando58 | CHI | TB | DET | HOU | IND |
| coldpizza | SD | CLE | CAR | CHI | CIN |
| Dan Kelly | NE | DET | TEN | TB | NYG |
| Jay Preece | HOU | DET | SD | GB | NO |
| Jimbo03 | HOU | DEN | BAL | NO | SD |
| metryman | HOU | PIT | SD | GB | NYG |
| MiamiSaints | ARI | PIT | SD | CHI | CIN |
| mississippisaintsfan | DET | BUF | SD | NO | IND |
| SaintsFanMD | SD | DAL | CAR | NO | NE |
| sXe hXc AMF | HOU | NO | DAL | ATL | NYG |
| Tac Hammer | SD | NYJ | TEN | TB | NE |
| theprogrammerman | HOU | NYJ | PIT | GB | NO |
| Eliminated | |||||
| alcoholic_insight | HOU | DET | SD | MIN | |
| BlackandGold4ever | ARI | BAL | |||
| Cajun in CA | NYJ | PIT | SD | BUF | |
| Comp | SD | PIT | NYJ | ||
| cscmember | CAR | ||||
| Dang Hu Dat | DEN | ||||
| devilducky | GB | PIT | TEN | MIN | |
| Dr.J | CLE | ||||
| Fat Punk Kicker | TEN | ||||
| FriarBob | ATL | ||||
| GRIZZ | NYG | ||||
| HB-NOLA | CLE | ||||
| horp the reckless | HOU | ––– | |||
| hrp | CLE | ||||
| jeff.l.b | HOU | NO | PIT | BUF | |
| Joseph William Stern | CLE | ||||
| jray2000 | NE | ––– | |||
| JRogers | TEN | ||||
| KilnBill | ATL | ||||
| mattxlegend | DEN | ||||
| maybetoday | CLE | ||||
| Northfan | KC | ||||
| NorthStarr | SD | PIT | PHI | ||
| Ponysaints | CLE | ||||
| saint_chew | DET | BUF | CIN | ||
| SaintsFanInIraq | PIT | ||||
| SAINTS#12 | CLE | ||||
| SarahT | PIT | ||||
| skinnykinney | KC | ||||
| snowboard_kat | ATL | ||||
| Valmo | NO | ||||
| VAsaintsfan | KC | ||||
| Wiedmann | CLE | ||||
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Lance Moore is ripped! When did he get that big?
CSC Survivor - Week 4
| Player | Week 1 | Week 2 | Week 3 | Week 4 |
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| AcquiredPanic | PHI | GB | PIT | NO |
| alcoholic_insight | HOU | DET | SD | MIN |
| bondcrash | NYJ | PIT | SD | GB |
| Breesus Christ Superstar | ARI | DET | BAL | TB |
| cajuncommando58 | CHI | TB | DET | HOU |
| Cajun in CA | NYJ | PIT | SD | BUF |
| coldpizza | SD | CLE | CAR | CHI |
| Dan Kelly | NE | DET | TEN | TB |
| devilducky | GB | PIT | TEN | MIN |
| Jay Preece | HOU | DET | SD | GB |
| jeff.l.b | HOU | NO | PIT | BUF |
| Jimbo03 | HOU | DEN | BAL | NO |
| metryman | HOU | PIT | SD | GB |
| MiamiSaints | ARI | PIT | SD | CHI |
| mississippisaintsfan | DET | BUF | SD | NO |
| SaintsFanMD | SD | DAL | CAR | NO |
| sXe hXc AMF | HOU | NO | DAL | ATL |
| Tac Hammer | SD | NYJ | TEN | TB |
| theprogrammerman | HOU | NYJ | PIT | GB |
| Eliminated | ||||
| BlackandGold4ever | ARI | BAL | ||
| Comp | SD | PIT | NYJ | |
| cscmember | CAR | |||
| Dang Hu Dat | DEN | |||
| Dr.J | CLE | |||
| Fat Punk Kicker | TEN | |||
| FriarBob | ATL | |||
| GRIZZ | NYG | |||
| HB-NOLA | CLE | |||
| horp the reckless | HOU | ––– | ||
| hrp | CLE | |||
| Joseph William Stern | CLE | |||
| jray2000 | NE | ––– | ||
| JRogers | TEN | |||
| KilnBill | ATL | |||
| mattxlegend | DEN | |||
| maybetoday | CLE | |||
| Northfan | KC | |||
| NorthStarr | SD | PIT | PHI | |
| Ponysaints | CLE | |||
| saint_chew | DET | BUF | CIN | |
| SaintsFanInIraq | PIT | |||
| SAINTS#12 | CLE | |||
| SarahT | PIT | |||
| skinnykinney | KC | |||
| snowboard_kat | ATL | |||
| Valmo | NO | |||
| VAsaintsfan | KC | |||
| Wiedmann | CLE | |||
Rules Recap:
- Pick one NFL team each week to win a game. Your pick must be made at least 30 minutes prior to the start of the game in which your chosen team is playing.
- If the team you pick loses, has a bye week, or if you fail to make a pick, you are eliminated.
- You must pick a different team each week, no repeats.
- The last player standing at the end of the season wins.
- In case of a tie, i.e., every remaining player is eliminated in one week, the game continues with the same players the following week. At the end of the regular season, if there are multiple players left, play will continue through the playoffs. At that point, your picks are reset, i.e., you are allowed to pick a team you had picked during the regular season.
- Due to the nature of the rules, entrants after week 1 cannot be allowed to join the game.
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Payton Reflects on Return to Superdome
"I don’t think we’ll ever lose track or not remember Steve Gleason blocking a punt ... That was ... probably the loudest I’ve ever heard any stadium, ever. ... The significance of that season certainly was equal to the significance of eventually winning the Super Bowl. ... 2009 was important because you won a championship but ’06 for many was just as important, if not more."
Wise words
CSC Survivor - Week 3
I've moved all of eliminated players to the bottom of the table in an effort to make it easier to read. As always, make your picks below in the title/subject of a comment.
| Player | Week 1 | Week 2 | Week 3 |
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| AcquiredPanic | PHI | GB | PIT |
| alcoholic_insight | HOU | DET | SD |
| bondcrash | NYJ | PIT | SD |
| Breesus Christ Superstar | ARI | DET | BAL |
| cajuncommando58 | CHI | TB | DET |
| Cajun in CA | NYJ | PIT | SD |
| coldpizza | SD | CLE | CAR |
| Comp | SD | PIT | NYJ |
| Dan Kelly | NE | DET | TEN |
| devilducky | GB | PIT | TEN |
| Jay Preece | HOU | DET | SD |
| jeff.l.b | HOU | NO | PIT |
| Jimbo03 | HOU | DEN | BAL |
| metryman | HOU | PIT | SD |
| MiamiSaints | ARI | PIT | SD |
| mississippisaintsfan | DET | BUF | SD |
| NorthStarr | SD | PIT | PHI |
| saint_chew | DET | BUF | CIN |
| SaintsFanMD | SD | DAL | CAR |
| sXe hXc AMF | HOU | NO | DAL |
| Tac Hammer | SD | NYJ | TEN |
| theprogrammerman | HOU | NYJ | PIT |
| Eliminated | |||
| BlackandGold4ever | ARI | BAL | |
| cscmember | CAR | ||
| Dang Hu Dat | DEN | ||
| Dr.J | CLE | ||
| Fat Punk Kicker | TEN | ||
| FriarBob | ATL | ||
| GRIZZ | NYG | ||
| HB-NOLA | CLE | ||
| horp the reckless | HOU | ––– | |
| hrp | CLE | ||
| Joseph William Stern | CLE | ||
| jray2000 | NE | ––– | |
| JRogers | TEN | ||
| KilnBill | ATL | ||
| mattxlegend | DEN | ||
| maybetoday | CLE | ||
| Northfan | KC | ||
| Ponysaints | CLE | ||
| SaintsFanInIraq | PIT | ||
| SAINTS#12 | CLE | ||
| SarahT | PIT | ||
| skinnykinney | KC | ||
| snowboard_kat | ATL | ||
| Valmo | NO | ||
| VAsaintsfan | KC | ||
| Wiedmann | CLE | ||
Rules Recap:
- Pick one NFL team each week to win a game. Your pick must be made at least 30 minutes prior to the start of the game in which your chosen team is playing.
- If the team you pick loses, has a bye week, or if you fail to make a pick, you are eliminated.
- You must pick a different team each week, no repeats.
- The last player standing at the end of the season wins.
- In case of a tie, i.e., every remaining player is eliminated in one week, the game continues with the same players the following week. At the end of the regular season, if there are multiple players left, play will continue through the playoffs. At that point, your picks are reset, i.e., you are allowed to pick a team you had picked during the regular season.
- Due to the nature of the rules, entrants after week 1 cannot be allowed to join the game.
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CSC Survivor (aka Elimination League) - Week 2
Week 1 is in the books, and nearly half of the original 48 entrants were kicked off the island in a wild opening weekend - 23 to be exact, including yours truly. Check the table below for all of the carnage, and if you're still alive, post your pick in the comments below. Remember to put your team's name, and nothing else, in the comment title/subject line.
Also, the people have spoken and apparently very few like the idea of the no repeat rule continuing into the playoffs. There weren't many votes overall, but with the voting going more than 2-to-1 in favor of resetting the no repeat rule for the playoffs, I think it's fair to say that's what the majority wants. So be it.
| Player | Week 1 | Week 2 |
|---|---|---|
| AcquiredPanic | PHI | GB |
| alcoholic_insight | HOU | DET |
| BlackandGold4ever | ARI | BAL |
| bondcrash | NYJ | PIT |
| Breesus Christ Superstar | ARI | DET |
| cajuncommando58 | CHI | TB |
| Cajun in CA | NYJ | PIT |
| coldpizza | SD | CLE |
| Comp | SD | PIT |
| cscmember | CAR | out |
| Dang Hu Dat | DEN | out |
| Dan Kelly | NE | DET |
| devilducky | GB | PIT |
| Dr.J | CLE | out |
| Fat Punk Kicker | TEN | out |
| FriarBob | ATL | out |
| GRIZZ | NYG | out |
| HB-NOLA | CLE | out |
| horp the reckless | HOU | |
| hrp | CLE | out |
| Jay Preece | HOU | DET |
| jeff.l.b | HOU | NO |
| Jimbo03 | HOU | DEN |
| Joseph William Stern | CLE | out |
| jray2000 | NE | |
| JRogers | TEN | out |
| KilnBill | ATL | out |
| mattxlegend | DEN | out |
| maybetoday | CLE | out |
| metryman | HOU | PIT |
| MiamiSaints | ARI | PIT |
| mississippisaintsfan | DET | BUF |
| Northfan | KC | out |
| NorthStarr | SD | PIT |
| Ponysaints | CLE | out |
| saint_chew | DET | BUF |
| SaintsFanInIraq | PIT | out |
| SaintsFanMD | SD | DAL |
| SAINTS#12 | CLE | out |
| SarahT | PIT | out |
| skinnykinney | KC | out |
| snowboard_kat | ATL | out |
| sXe hXc AMF | HOU | NO |
| Tac Hammer | SD | NYJ |
| theprogrammerman | HOU | NYJ |
| Valmo | NO | out |
| VAsaintsfan | KC | out |
| Wiedmann | CLE | out |
Rules Recap:
- Pick one NFL team each week to win a game. Your pick must be made at least 30 minutes prior to the start of the game in which your chosen team is playing.
- If the team you pick loses, has a bye week, or if you fail to make a pick, you are eliminated.
- You must pick a different team each week, no repeats.
- The last player standing at the end of the season wins.
- In case of a tie, i.e., every remaining player is eliminated in one week, the game continues with the same players the following week. At the end of the regular season, if there are multiple players left, play will continue through the playoffs. At that point, your picks are reset, i.e., you are allowed to pick a team you had picked during the regular season.
- Due to the nature of the rules, entrants after week 1 cannot be allowed to join the game.
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CSC Elimination League Week 1 Reminder
There is some discussion of the no repeat rule during the playoffs on the original post. If you're interested, go there to read some of the issues and possible solutions. I've added a poll here to see if folks thinks we should have the no repeat rule reset for the playoffs, if it ever gets to that (which is not particularly likely).
| Player | Week 1 |
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| AcquiredPanic | PHI |
| alcoholic_insight | HOU |
| BlackandGold4ever | ARI |
| bondcrash | NYJ |
| Breesus Christ Superstar | ARI |
| cajuncommando58 | CHI |
| Cajun in CA | NYJ |
| coldpizza | SD |
| Comp | SD |
| cscmember | CAR |
| Dang Hu Dat | DEN |
| Dan Kelly | NE |
| devilducky | GB |
| Dr.J | CLE |
| Fat Punk Kicker | TEN |
| FriarBob | ATL |
| GRIZZ | NYG |
| HB-NOLA | CLE |
| horp the reckless | HOU |
| hrp | CLE |
| Jay Preece | HOU |
| jeff.l.b | HOU |
| Jimbo03 | HOU |
| Joseph William Stern | CLE |
| jray2000 | NE |
| JRogers | TEN |
| KilnBill | ATL |
| mattxlegend | DEN |
| maybetoday | CLE |
| metryman | HOU |
| MiamiSaints | ARI |
| mississippisaintsfan | DET |
| Northfan | KC |
| NorthStarr | SD |
| Ponysaints | CLE |
| saint_chew | DET |
| SaintsFanInIraq | PIT |
| SaintsFanMD | SD |
| SAINTS#12 | CLE |
| SarahT | PIT |
| skinnykinney | KC |
| snowboard_kat | ATL |
| sXe hXc AMF | HOU |
| Tac Hammer | SD |
| theprogrammerman | HOU |
| Valmo | NO |
| VAsaintsfan | KC |
| Wiedmann | CLE |
Rules Recap:
- Pick one NFL team each week to win a game. Your pick must be made at least 30 minutes prior to the start of the game in which your chosen team is playing.
- If the team you pick loses, has a bye week, or if you fail to make a pick, you are eliminated.
- You must pick a different team each week, no repeats.
- The last player standing at the end of the season wins.
- In case of a tie, i.e., every remaining player is eliminated in one week, the game continues with the same players the following week. If, at the end of the season, there are multiple players left, play continues through the playoffs with the no repeat rule still in effect.
- Due to the nature of the rules, entrants after week 1 cannot be allowed to join the game.
Fantasy Football - Need Help
Out of curiosity, I checked out my team today. It turns out it's not a complete nightmare, so now I think I'll go ahead and try this thing. Here's the roster that was auto-picked for me:
starters:
QB: Peyton Manning (bwaaahahahahahaha!)
RB: Chris Johnson (nice! 4th pick overall)
RB: Michael Turner (stomach turning, but I suppose he'll be productive)
RB: Matt Forte
WR: Dwayne Bowe
WR: Wes Welker
TE: Vernon Davis
K: Stephen Gostkowski
DEF: Chicago Bears
bench:
QB: Matt Cassel
RB: Brandon Jacobs
RB: Mike Tolbert
RB: Jonathon Stewart
WR: Deion Branch
WR: Roy Williams (really? really?)
Needless-to-say, I got hosed with the QBs. Clearly the system went crazy with the RBs. Drew Brees was drafted (by my week 1 opponent no less) right after Turner. Arrgh. My WRs aren't horrible, but I definitely feel like I need an upgrade.
Naturally, my first move was to put Cassel in the starting lineup in place of Manning. I also have tentatively replaced Forte with Jacobs for this week. Then I put in a couple of waiver claims - Malcolm Floyd to replace Roy Williams, and Houston's defense for Jonathon Stewart. That second claim is mainly for this weekend - Houston's D should have a good day, and the Bears, while good in general, are going to be pushed hard by the Falcons. Depending on how well the Texans' D plays this week, I may keep them around for a while.
Obviously, I need to do something about QB, at least in the short term. The problem is that the best QBs available on waivers are Orton and Hasselbeck, neither of which is much of an upgrade over Cassel. So, my question to the local FF experts is this - what kind of trade would you suggest to help out my QB situation? I don't really know how FF gurus value trades. I'm thinking something like Michael Turner and Deion Branch for a very good FF QB, someone like Roethlisberger or Romo. I'd even consider moving Dwayne Bowe + a bench player for a really good QB. There's several good but not great WRs still available to replace Bowe, at least a few of whom could have surprisingly good seasons, notably Donald Driver. Honestly, though, I'd really like to trade Turner so I can avoid the horrible conflict of interest inherent in having such a prominent Falcons player on my roster.
I'm also thinking of replacing Vernon Davis. There's quite a few good TEs still available, including Shiancoe. I think Davis is one of the best TEs in the league, but given that he's playing for the 49ers with Alex Smith throwing to him, I'm not exactly optimistic about his FF value. McNabb to Shiancoe seems like a better bet, especially when looking at the Vikings WRs. Todd Heap, Aaron Hernandez, Jermaine Gresham, and Greg Olsen are also available.
So, what do you FF gurus think? Any suggestions, or should I just go with my initial thoughts last night and not bother even trying to compete with this team?
CSC Elimination Pick 'Em League
The rules are simple:
- Pick one NFL team each week to win a game. Your pick must be made at least 30 minutes prior to the start of the game in which your chosen team is playing.
- If the team you pick loses, has a bye week, or if you fail to make a pick, you are eliminated.
- You must pick a different team each week, no repeats.
- The last player standing at the end of the season wins.
- In case of a tie, i.e., every remaining player is eliminated in one week, the game continues with the same players the following week. If, at the end of the season, there are multiple players left, play continues through the playoffs with the no repeat rule still in effect.
- Due to the nature of the rules, entrants after week 1 cannot be allowed to join the game.
Each Tuesday, I'll make a post with the previous weekend's eliminations, and a table of each players' picks so far. Make your pick in the comments section, and I'll update the table throughout the week. You may change your pick during the week, but if you have a pick made within 30 minutes of the start of that team's game, that is your final pick. No exceptions. If enough people want it, I can also post a reminder later in the week noting who has yet to make their picks.
Cajun in CA ran an elimination pick 'em league last year, and he recently asked for someone to run one again this year. I can run it this year, but will likely need someone to substitute for me for one or two weeks. Jay Preece (who I believe won last year's game) has also volunteered to run it. (Jay - you are more than welcome to take this over if you like - I just wanted to get the initial post up today so we can get the game started before the season begins with as many players as possible.) Sign up below with interest, or better yet, your pick for week 1.
UPDATE: Judging from some of the picks, I thought I should clarify rule #2. The no repeat rule means that once you have picked a team to win, you cannot pick that team again for the rest of the season, including the playoffs if the game goes that long.
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Resting Players in Week 17
There is a very good chance that by the end of week 16 the Saints will be locked into the 5th seed wildcard spot for the playoffs, with no chance of moving higher or lower. Assuming the Falcons beat Seattle this weekend, and the Saints beat the Falcons the next week, there are almost no scenarios in which the Saints would not be the 5th seed, even if the Saints were to lose to the Ravens this Sunday.
We already know that Coach Payton likes to rest his starters before the playoffs when he can, but this situation would present a somewhat different set of consequences. If the Saints rest their starters during week 17 and the Bucs end up winning that game, they almost would be assured of a playoff spot as the 6th seed wildcard. I wonder if that would change Payton's thinking on the issue. Would it make him more or less likely to rest guys? Or would the Bucs' situation not affect his decision at all?
To me, it seems like a no-brainer to rest as many starters as possible, and do nearly everything possible to lose against Tampa Bay if it gets them into the playoffs (short of blatantly throwing the game). Tampa Bay would be assured a lower draft pick, and more importantly, it would keep another cold weather team out of the playoffs. A likely playoff scenario in that case would be Tampa Bay losing on wildcard weekend, which would have the Saints playing Atlanta in the divisional round.
What do you think?
Update: As Mtn-Exile correctly points out below, if the Saints beat the Falcons, and the Saints and Falcons either both lose or both win this weekend, both teams would enter week 17 with the same record. In that case, the Saints would have a chance, however remote, to take the division. The chances of Atlanta losing to Carolina are so remote that I failed to consider that possibility. Ultimately the chance would be there, though, and would make this question academic. There is still a reasonable chance of being locked into the 5th seed. If Atlanta beats Seattle, and the Saints lose to the Ravens and then beat the Falcons, I think they are guaranteed the 5th seed regardless of what happens with the Giants, Eagles, Packers and Bears.
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Chris Ivory nominated for Rookie of the Week - Go Vote!
Chris Ivory's 23 carries for 99 yards and a 1 TD has earned him a second rookie of the week nomination. Let's make sure he wins his second time as well. Vote early and vote often.
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You can't be too careful. And you can't believe too much.
Saints don't blame injuries for poor running game
When addressing the Saints' trouble running the ball, Payton said he doesn't "want to point to injuries."
The running game is "an area that we feel like we're going to improve on," Payton said. "We understand the importance of that aspect to what we do."
I guess he doesn't want to call out the offensive line directly, but that sounds like he thinks the problem is there, not with the RBs.
Remember Saints fans - it could be a lot worse.
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Why The NFL Needs Four Preseason Games (Or Not)
Once again, the league's proposal for an 18 game regular season is in the news. I originally wrote this article at the end of preseason and had intended to post it right then. I postponed it at the time, however, due to the short week and hoopla over the Saints home opener. With the league making its first detailed proposal to the NFLPA and Bill Polian suggesting it's already a fait accompli, now seems like a good time to dust this off.
One of the more convincing arguments against the NFL moving to a format of 2 preseason games and 18 regular season game is that at least four weeks of preseason are necessary to accomplish the training and talent evaluation provided by the current format. During preseason, players are trained for a long regular season with hopes of multiple post season games. The preseason also provides coaches and front office personnel a vehicle for evaluation of talent acquired in the offseason. That neither of these two goals can be properly attained with a two week preseason is one of the strongest arguments against changing the current format.
Jim Schwartz Shows Class After Tough Defeat
Detroit Lions head coach Jim Schwartz demonstrates class in his post game press conference, after losing to the Bears on a ridiculously bad call that took away a winning touchdown catch from backup QB Shaun Hill to Calvin Johnson. Perhaps Vikings fans/players/coaches could take a lesson from this. Skip to 00:38 for the goods.
Bull$#!% reasons to hate an 18 game season
The proposal of an 18 game season for the NFL has generated a lot of opinions and arguments, both in favor and against. Some of the arguments are intelligent, well articulated, and debatable. Some of the arguments, though, are a whole lot of horse shit, and that's being generous. It's the latter group of straw men that I want to quickly address here, so we can move on to the more important discussions without these distractions.
One of my favorite BS arguments against an 18 game schedule is how this is just another way for the NFL owners to line their pockets. Really? You mean the billionaire pro sports team owners' club is filled with greedy people? How do you think they got to be billionaires in the first place? More importantly, what exactly does the owners' (and players') greed have to do with whether or not an 18 game regular season will be more enjoyable for us? Nothing. Owners have always been greedy - look at the typical salary of players prior to free agency. The fact that owners are greedy in no way affects the quality of an 18 game season. It may affect your enjoyment of it if you long for the old days, when guys played just for the love of the game. But in that case, you should probably be more concerned about the players' greed and the fact that a rookie quarterback that's never taken a snap in the NFL can get a $50 million contract. If the commercialization of the NFL makes you sick, well, all I can say is, that's why it's called professional sports. Also, stay tuned, as I'm planning an entire article dedicated to greed and the NFL.
Another of the truly laughable arguments is that football should start in September, or that it will be too cold for regular season games in January, or too hot in August. I almost didn't even include this because it's so ridiculous, but I've seen variations on this theme too many times not to include it here. They already play football in August - it's called the preseason! And they already play in January - it's called the playoffs!
What about the history books and statistical records? In nearly every discussion of the 18 game season, someone always bring this up. Every single season record will be shattered and less meaningful. First of all, so what? Records, as they say, are meant to be broken. Does anyone think less of Marino's 5084 passing yards because it happened in a 16 game season instead of 14 or 12? Or do they think less of Tomlinson's 28 rushing touchdowns? I don't know any reasonable person who does. When we look at the record books, we take these things into account, and know that it's impossible to compare Brady's 50 TD passes to anything Unitas did, and not just because of the number of games they played in one season. Perhaps more importantly, though, the idea that every single season record will be broken is just not true. I seriously doubt anyone will ever break Night Train Lane's single season record of 14 interceptions (which he accomplished in 12 games! as a rookie!), even if they went to a 20 game season. There are in fact quite a lot of single season records, by both individuals and teams, that will remain standing for quite some time, if not forever.
Earlier this week, Carson Palmer said, "With 16 games, every game is important and therefore the fans are very into it ... I think if you go to 18, each game kind of loses a little bit of its significance." This is an oft-repeated argument against an expanded regular season. Some fans have gone so far as to compare it to MLB's 162 games, which is absolutely ridiculous. One game in an 18 game season is the same as 9 in a 162 game season. In other words, losing one football game would be the same as getting swept in three successive series in baseball. When that happens to a playoff hopeful team chasing a division leader in baseball towards the end of the season, their season is pretty much over (as it should be). Carson's point that each game loses a bit of significance, though, is at least mathematically correct. Each game of an 18 game season will be about 10% less "significant" than in a 16 game season. Of course, the same argument could be made about going from 14 to 16 games, or from 12 to 14 games, but I don't hear anyone pining for the good ol' days of a 12 game season. Practically speaking, every game will still be critical in getting to the playoffs. If anything, getting in to the playoffs will be harder. I would give good odds no team will ever make the playoffs with a 9-9 record, whereas teams with 8-8 records have done so numerous times (including the Saints). An extra two games will help separate the wheat from the chaff, and will give better teams just a little more time to prove it. After an 0-6 start behind Kerry Collins last year, Vince Young led the Titans to an 8-2 finish and just missed the playoffs. How much would they have loved another two games to beat out the Ravens or Jets for a wildcard spot? And considering how the Jets fell ass-backwards into the playoffs last year, would that really be a bad thing?
The Jet's entry into the playoffs last year brings me to the final silly argument against the 18 game season. (There may be others I'm either unaware of or are just so ridiculous as not to merit a mention.) Opponents claim that there will be more meaningless games at the end of the season when an undefeated team rests its players for as many as four or five weeks before the playoffs. Consider what that implies. Assuming a team were undefeated in their first 14 games, they could only afford to lose the last four if no other team in the conference had more than nine wins. The chances of the second best team in a conference being only 9-5 with four weeks left must be absurdly small. (I did a quick survey of #2 seeds since the division realignment, and only once has a team finished with fewer than 11 wins. That was the 2006 Saints, and they rested their starters and gave an easy win to Carolina in week 17.) The initial instinct of more games will mean more meaningless games at the end of the season isn't just wrong, I think it's very probably backwards. The addition of two games will make it less likely for a team to rest their starters for more than one, maybe two, weeks, because there are more games for others to catch up.
I've covered what I believe to be a series of straw man arguments against the 18 game season, and in the process I'm sure I've insulted some people, bruised some egos, and maybe even made myself look foolish in the process. Feel free to rake me over the coals and explain why any of these arguments are not just reasonable but correct. I won't it take it personally. But please, please, please, keep the comments on point, and don't bring up other arguments against the 18 game season (unless it's to point out another straw man). I promise, I will cover what I think are the legitimate arguments in upcoming articles.
The 18 game season - Facts, Opinions, and Horsehockey
In recent days, the idea of an 18 game season for the NFL has overtaken Haynesworth, Tebow, Bradford, Brady, Lombardi, and every other story named for an individual. It has bloated the comments sections of NFL.com, ESPN, FPT, every newspaper and sports outlet with an online presence, and even our own little corner of championship heaven here at CSC. Being an avid fan of the Saints and football in general, I can't stop myself from reading it all. Only now, I feel just moments from stabbing forks into my eyes. Man, I hate when that happens.
In my self-induced misery of studying this subject, I've found quite a few reality disconnects which only serve to increase my haze of mental pain. The most glaring disconnection with reality I've discovered is Roger Goodell and the NFL owners claiming how the fans are overwhelmingly crying out for an extended season and fewer preseason games. I have visited literally dozens of websites where this question is posed to fans and without fail the response is overwhelmingly against an expanded regular season. When I first ran into this kind of response, I chalked it up to an over-traditionalist, very vocal minority. Then I began to see the same kind of response in similar numbers and vehemence everywhere I looked. Just yesterday, I noticed the poll on wwltv.com, in which the respondents rejected an expanded season by a 2 to 1 margin. This is inline with numbers I've seen elsewhere.
How could the NFL management be so incredibly off in their perception of fan desires? Anyone that has watched preseason games and noticed the attendance rates would not have a hard time understanding it. With the exception of last night's game between the Colts and Packers, which looked to be an SRO affair, every camera shot of the stands during the preseason has shown dramatically empty stadia. And in case anyone has forgotten, this is a business - a business that requires putting butts in seats.
Reading the vitriol against Goodell and the owners about greed and destroying the integrity of the game and history books got me thinking though. As interested as I am in the delusional behavior of the NFL owners, I'm somehow more interested in the delusional opinions of 20 somethings that seem to have holographic memories of Sammy Baugh firing downfield passes in the 1937 championship game against da Bears.
Some of the arguments against an 18 game season I've read and heard from fans, players, and long established sports writers (I'm looking at you BAW) are simply laughable. Some are ill informed. Others are arguable. And lastly, one or two are actually convincing enough to listen to. I'm writing this as the first of several pieces in an attempt to distinguish between the facts, opinions, hand-waving, and down right bullshit I've seen in regards to an 18 game season for the NFL.
Let me say right here and now at the outset of this project that I'm not necessarily in favor of 18 games. My instinct leans that way, but I'm in no way convinced that it will improve my football experience any more than I am convinced that remaining at 16 games will preserve my love of the game. To put it as bluntly as possible, I'm no more convinced that 18 minutes in a Dutch bordello will be better than 16 minutes. Sometimes, splitting the uprights for the trophy is good no matter how many plays it took to get there.
I dreamed i was eating shredded weat and i woke up to find my mattress half gone.
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Monday Night Key Matchups: Saints Offense vs. Patriots Defense
This article turned out to be a bit more difficult to write than I expected for two similar reasons. The Saints offense has more play makers on the field for any given play than many teams have on their entire roster. Similarly, the Patriots 3-4 defense has several play making defenders that change their point of attack frequently, making it difficult to choose three or four players for individual matchups. All the same, I did find a few critical matchups that I think could make or break this game for the Saints. Before getting into individual matchups though, I want to point out (yell, scream, pray, beg, demand) that Payton needs to commit to the running game on Monday like he has never done before. I understand that Drew Brees is the best player on the field. But in this game the Saints rushing attack has a better chance of being consistently more successful than the passing game and needs to be used as more than just a mechanism for closing out games in the second half. Make the jump to find out why.
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