Actually, I was wrong twice. During the earlier Eagles game, I wrote a half-intoxicated post about how upset I was with the team. I guess I wasn't really wrong. I was mad. I"m still mad about that game. The silver lining is, that apparently the game upset the team as well. What I was wrong about in the situation was that I was pretty sure they wouldn't turn it around. I even went on a one-day no Cowboys talk hiatus.

Then, a week or two ago I wrote a post entitled "It all comes down to NYG." While this is mathematically pretty accurate, I think there is one way that I was wrong. More on this in a second.

Last night the Eagles mailed it in. That was despicable. That was worse than the Cowboys played against the Eagles by far. I live in Western NY, and Bills fans are cringing at Marshawn Lynch actually gaining yards. Furthermore, one thing the Cowboys have not done recently, as we all know, is slam the door on lesser opponents. Squeaking by Miami and Washington, and even Seattle did not sit well with many here on BTB.

So, I was wrong that it's all about NYG. We need to at least split those games, for sure. But I think we really need to dish it to the Dirty Birds. Blowing out the Eagles would have many positive effects:

• Revenge
• Giving Philly an even worse record
• Momentum toward the end of the season
• Confidence that we can beat teams that are not our caliber
• C'mon, stomping Philly is just fun

Assuming reasonable WL outcomes, it looks like we should decide the season with the games against the Giants.  The giants still have games against the Eagles, Saints, Packers, Skins and Jets. Plus the two Dallas games.  Hopefully, they will lose 3 of 5.  They should beat WAS and lose to GB, so if two of the other teams can pull out wins, they sit at 9-5 not counting the Cowboys games.

Also, wwe have a decent schedule coming up.  Assuming we can go 4-1 against PHi, WAS, TB, ARI, and MIA, which I don't think is a stretch, we sit at.....drumroll....9-5 not counting the Giants games.

As it sits right now, I believe splitting would be a win for us, as I think we currently hold the tiebreakers.  I'm not sure how the est of my assumptions change that, but basically what I'm saying is we have to beat NYG this year. No messing around.

Tonight, at least so far, I'm a DeMarco Murray fan.  Call me what you want, but I am not a Cowboys fan right now.  This is absolutely gutless football.  Nobody besides Murray in a white uniform gives a crap at all as to what;s going on out there.  It's embarrassing.  I'm seriously considering taking a sick day tomorrow just so I don't have to justify it.

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When Tony Romo went down last week, I thought, "Man, there goes our ppg average."  I figured with as talented a group as we have, that Kitna could come in and score a few points.  He did.  Now, I didn't watch the game, as it was blacked out here, but it looks like the offense did basically what I expected.  Maybe they could have scored once more, but hey, first game with a new QB.

But someone tell me why Tony Romo going down means our defense gives up 35 points to the friggin' Jacksonville Jaguars.  Tony doesn't play safety, or cornerback.  I started to watch the game on the NFL game center thing.  I saw that Dallas had a 3-0 lead, and thought "Ok, first drive, new QB, field goal....not bad!"  Then, the first JAX drive looked like this:

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So, I couldn't watch  the game, but I start to check it our on NFL.com and see that the Jags first drive included (if I remember right) about a 35 yard kick return, followed by three or four long pass plays resulting in a touchdown. (I think there may have been a penalty, denoted by the backwards arrow, but who cares to remember?)

I was like, wait, no, this has to be halloween trickery on the part of NFL.com.   We lost Tony Romo, and now our defense is making David Garrard look like Peyton Manning.  I turned off my computer.

My answer as to why the defense played like this?  Simple.  Our defense sucks.  It has all year.  Why doesn't Ware or Spencer have more sacks?  Because opposing QBs have no trouble getting rid of the ball quickly, because the play of our D-backs is absolutely atrocious.  They have been shredded by every receiver corps they've faced.

I get really annoyed with my brother (Giants fan) because he keeps telling me Romo is terrible.  The beginning in week 2, the Cowboys scored 20, 27, 27, 21, and 35 points, but only won one game.  That is not the sign of a bad QB, that's the sign of bad, really bad defense.  We do, in deed, have needs on the O-line.  100% true.  But, if we draft a bunch of lineman and secure the line and throw up 30-40 points per game, it's not going to matter, because our secondary will give up that much and then some.

I don't know the answer, but I think it would start by trading Tashard.  I love the guy, don't get me wrong, but he isn't being used, and he's worth a draft pick or two.  Or maybe even trade him for a d-back, but I doubt that would happen.

Ok, Rant over.  Let me get your opinion.  Before Romo went down, do you think we had more of a problem scoring points, or defending against them?

So for a couple years now we've been ooo-ing and ahhh-ing at our talent at running back.  And I, for one, thing the hype is for real.  But what about Jason Garrett?  Why is it that we have a first & goal at the 6 yard line, with a back-up quarterback, and we throw 4 passes?  Why is it that we couldn't throw TC out there?  Are you telling me that Tashard wasn't hyped up enough to get 6 yards on 4 tries?

I understand our o-line is aging and isn't what it used to be, but we have some backs that can make things happen.  But Garret would rather trust a back up that has no significant playing time in a year to throw the ball.  And what happened?  Three of the four passes sail out of the back of the end zone.

I'm so sick of RedBall thinking he can out smart everyone.  If we've learned anything this far through the season it's that the cowboys do have some talent, but they are not breaking any IQ records here.  Let's get back to basics.  You get four downs from the 6 yard line, with those three backs to choose from, you run the ball.  

In a game like that there are a lot of things to hate....but that one really stuck out at me.

I noticed on ESPN.go.com/nfl  Under the Insider Rumors spot the headline is "Uh Oh, Cowboys have a new issue."

Is this the mothership trying to get some subscriptions, or is something up?  Anyone with Insider want to check that out?

On another note, I can't wait for the season to start tonight, and am even more excited for Sunday night.  I would love to beat McNabb 3 ties in a row.  Cowboys 27 Redskins 9.

Sorry, I know this is an old topic, but I've read comments on a few posts lately talking about how the vikes spanked us.  Both here, and on other blogs.  I never posted this at the time, because I was upset, and I've basically just been lurking and not posting much of anything since the season ended.

So click on a new post if you don't want a rant about a game that happened months ago. I'll try to keep it short.

The score was 34-3.  Two missed field goals that should have been made makes it 34 - 9, and two garbage time touchdowns when dallas had obviously packed it in makes it 20 - 9.

20 - 9 is not a drubbing.   Basically, our o-line played like crap, and gave our skill players no time to do anything.

Again, I know this doesn't matter....just had to get it off my chest.

Though it is interesting how there hasn't been much talk of field goal kicker lately......is Bhueler coming along?

I have to disagree with the prior fanpost about running up the score.  I didn't want to argue, I wanted to state my side, so I made a new thread.  Here's how I see it....

And this goes for any game, but especially the professional level.  Can anyone answer me this question:  What is Brett Favre's job?  What is Sidney Rice's job?  Incase you forgot, their job is scoring touchdowns.  

And, as apparently the Dallas defense forgot yesterday, their job is to stop Bret Favre from scoring touchdowns.  They didn't do it.  I'm as bummed about this loss as anyone.  I had little doubt in my mind that we'd beat the Vikings.  But we lost because the Minnesota defensive line absolutely, totally, and in all other ways out played our offensive line.  Flo wimped out, and the rest just couldn't handle it.  You can't blame Romo or the receivers, we don't know what they could have done, because 90% of the time Romo dropped back he had not just one, but Multiple guys in his grill immediately.

This game was about either really good d-line play on their part, or really crappy o-line play on our part.  It was not about Brett Favre (whom I hate, by the way) throwing an extra score or two.

Oh, and the arguments comparing the situation to the Pats or McGwire?  C'mon.  Those two situations broke the rules.  The rules say you can't tape you opponents practices/ signals.  The rules say you can't take HGH.  Is there a rule that says Brett Favre can't throw TDs?  Maybe if there was he'd retire for good.  Until then, the Minnesota offense was just doing there job....score touchdowns.  

Isn't that what we all want.  I mean, isn't that what keeps us optimistic fans going, the fact that we see promise on our team?  So, for my own sanity, this is what I want for my early Christmas present.  I want the following this Saturday night:

Offense against Atlanta, week 7:  Tony Romo was  "21 of 29 for 311 yards and 3 TDs to earn a 141.6 QB rating."  He spread the ball around, Crayton got in on the action, and most importantly, we had pass protection.

Defense against Philly, week 9:  Giving up 16 points to an offense as explosive as Philly is nothing to be ashamed of.  If we can hold the Saints to 16 points we have a much better shot at winning this game.  Ratliff played some great football, and Brooking was an animal as well.  Moving Rat out to DE and not giving McNabb much room to breath.

Special Teams against Seattle, week 8: PC return for a touchdown (boy could we use one of those on Saturday!), Beuhler banging kickoffs, as well as making downfield blocks for return men.  Oh, and I think Folk was 1-1 on FGs.

Here's hoping guys.  We definitely have the tools.  I mean, based purely on talent, we do have a team that qualifies for the coveted title of "elite."  We just haven't been able to put it together.

Could this be the week?

I know, I know, Predictions are like opinions, which are like....well, something that everyone has, and they all stink.\

But, here's mine anyway:

Giants: Currently 7-5

They will go 2-2.  they will lose to the Vikings, and they'll drop another division game.  They'll be 9-6, and they can have the series sweep over us all they want, while we're in the playoffs and they're not.

Eagles: Currently 8-4

They will go 2-2.  They will lose to the Giants or have a bad game and lose to the Broncos, and they will lose to us.

Cowboys:   Currently 8-4

They will go 2-2 or 3-1.  They will lose one of the next two games, but not both.  They will beat Philly, but I'm just not sure about that Washington game.

Near as I can figure with my football brain, and the handy dandy Yahoo tool mentioned in another post, that means that if we can, in fact, win two of the next 3 and the Gnts and Iggles each drop one also, we're in regardless of the eagles game.(If the Vikes beat NYG, otherwise, we need the Eagles game)

The eagles game would determine who we play.  If we beat PHI, we'd get a rematch  with the Packers @ home.  If we lose to Philly, we would have to play them the next weekend IN PHILLY.

Hmmm GB at home, or Philly on the Road.  I think we better beat Philly in week 17.

Also, this is assuming the packers go at least 3-1 down the stretch, which they should.

So that's it.  Win 2 of the next three and we're in, with a bit of help elsewhere.

Hello all.

I'm sure a little research would yield a result, but I like you guys, so I figure I'd ask the community instead.

If we win the division, and the Eagles get a Wildcard, could we face them in back to back games?  I mean, we play them for  our last game.  The only way we get a bye is if the Vikes take a major dive, which I don't see happening.  So, we will most likely be playing in Wildcard weekend.

Does anyone know how those matchups work?  Is it based on record?  Do they separate teams based on division?

Is it possible we'd play Philly back to back, and if so....how much would that suck?

Raiders Giants Chargers Saints Skins Eagles

That's what's left folks. 4-2 in this stretch gets us in the playoffs, and 3-3 could also, if chips fall correctly.  Definitly do-able.  I'm feeling now like we are going to beat the Saints, kind of like we were the first to beat the colts a couple years ago.  We should beat the Raiders, and the boys better have some bad blood built up for when we see the skins again.

So, the question becomes (based on the non-scientific assumption above) Can we beat either the Chargers, Giants, or Eagles?  At this point, the Chargers are surging.  And, since they are in the AFC, I don't mind losing that game.  So then basically, we need to win 2 out of 3 of the remaining division games.  I think this can be done.

For 7-3 teams, the Bengals, Chargers, Cards and Pats are all ranked ahead of us (I'm unfortunately using ESPN).  What do you all think of this?

The Bengals just lost to the Raiders, so if we beat them tomorrow, we have to leap frog the Bengals, right?

A head to head with the Chargers will answer that question.  

The Cardinals, in my opinion are not better than us, especially w/o Warner.  

The Pats may, in fact, be better than us right now.  Hopefully that will change come SB time.

I guess the questions I pose then are the following:

A) Can we go 4-2 down the tough stretch ahead?

B) can we go at least 2-1 for our remaining divisional games, leaving us 4-2 or 5-1 in the division this year?

C) Where do you see us among the 7-3 teams?

Bonus) Did anyone, at the beginning of the season, predict that we'd be in a spot where the media is saying that our defense looks like Super Bowl quality, while our offense can only score once per game?   Aren't we supposed to be a potent offense with a Three Headed Monster in the backfield, a near top tier QB, and some young and promising receivers?  Aren't our corners supposed to liabilities?

Did I miss something?  Did I fall asleep? 

I just can't help but feel there is no middle ground this weekend.  No "Hey we lost, but it was close and we'll get 'em next time." 

No "Hey, we won, but it was close and we could do better."

Nope.  Not this time.  We go big, or we go home.  That's my prediction.  This game, I think, will go one of two ways:

Scenario #1

Cowboys score early and often.  We give up one big play to Jackson, and stumble and give up a big play on special teams, but our D-backs step up for the most part, D-ware and the Rat get a couple sacks each, and our offense is lights out.  Miles has a 90 yard game, Roy gets in the mix to hush the Media, the trio in the backfield have a solid day, and Crayton gets us good yardage on all those punts that the D forces.

and then there's that other option...

Scenario #2

Dismal.  Remnants of last season's closing game.  McNabb makes our D-backs look foolish. d-ware and Rat get shut out.  Romo slips back into the turnover machine mode.  Crayton fumbles the few punts we force.

Not sure why, I just feel like this won't be a "shoot out that;s decided on the last possession" like the NFL films guy said.

But, I could be wrong. And if I'm right, God let it be scenario 1.

If you guys haven't already seen this, you need to check it out.  I put it in a fanPost rather than a fanShot because I think it is important for everyone to see, especially if you're young and trying to start a family.

Maybe I'm oblivious, but I didn't know any of this went on.  While we had to hear about every sit up that TO did, and every girlfriend that Romo had, and blah blah blah, DeMarcus was going through stuff that most people cannot even imagine.  And what did he do?  His job.  No talking, no excuses, just a bad ass black man sacking some QB's.

You want a role model for your kids?  You want to see what a man looks like?  Look at DeMarcus Ware.  A family man that goes to work, gets the job done, and then comes home to his family.  No clownin' in nightclubs, no bashing people in the media.  Just straight up a Man.

It's like 12 minutes long.  Watch it anyway.

Here's my optimistic view of the rest of the season:

cheifs         - W

falcons      - L

seahawks - W

eagles       - W

packers    - W

redskins   - W

raiders     - W

giants      - W

chargers - L

saints       - L

redskins  - W

eagles     - W

Leaving us 11 - 5 - and hopeful.  Obviously improvement is needed to accomplish this. And yes, I have us sweeping the Eagles, and getting revenge in week 17 for last year.  In fact I hope it comes down to us v. Eagles to get into the playoffs again, and we stick it to 'em.

At 25% through the season, where do you see us come January?

Piggy-backing off the previous fanpost about not jumping ship on your team, here's my always-optimistic two cents:

Why are we frustrated?  Is it because we're 2-2?  Only partly.  We are frustrated because we are 2-2 and we *could* be 4-0.  Let's put things in perspective gentlemen.  How about those Raiders?  Cheifs?  Rams?  Bucs?   At least we have hope for next week.  We always have hope for next week, because we have talented guys.

Now, I too would like to see that talent start translating into more cohesive play.  But for now, I'm glad I'm not a redskins fan, or a fan of any of the teams above.

And also, think about this....there are teams liek us with talent that are playing worse.  Examples?  Sure.  Buffalo.  They have a crappy QB, but great receivers.  They should be better than they are.  Even better example.  Some people's superbowl pick (drumroll please) I present the tenesee titans.  0-4.  Damn.  Makes 2-2 look at least a bit better, huh?

All I'm saying is we have hope still.  Hope that the offense will come out of this funk, and the d-backs will become consistent.  We could still go 14-2, techinically.

Here are my thoughts after last night's game:

~Grizz, thanks for the warning to the unruly folks.  I will never again hang out on the thread during a game.  People are rude to each other, and obviously have no confidence in this team.    After one or two crappy plays over half the people here gave up on the game, gave up on our quarterback, gave up on our coach, and gave up on the season.  I'm emotional too, but let's be rational.

~ Our D-backs were bad.  On the flip side, the Manningham kid is for real, and Eli is truly a solid QB.

~ Romo played a terrible game, this loss is on him.  But he still marched down and scored on the last drive.  Unfortunately it left NY a bit too much time.

~ Flo got another one.  Ended up being a 6 yd penalty, but we would've been out by midfield, so all in all about a 42 yarder.  In a 2-point game, against the Giants, that matters, just like I said last week.  Oh....and if we were out by midfield, Romo doesn't throw short to Witten, which bounces off his heel for an INT. Flo is up around 75 yards which he cost us this year.  Go ahead, say he saved Romo....I was watching too, and I don't buy it.

I could go on, but I won't.  Bottom line is this:  We played a Terrible game and had even worse Luck. Yet we still took many people's Super Bowl pick to the wire.  I'm not much for moral victories, but one question looms in my mind.....

What if we played well against the Giants?

I think I'm going to start keeping track...here we go.

Yesterday Flozell Adams had one penalty for 15 yards.  But, actually, As I pointed out last year, many penalties cost more than their allotment of yards, and Flo seems to have a knack for this.  His play negated a 16 yard play.  That means that Flo cost the Cowboys 31 yards, at what was still a bit of a critical point in the game.  31 yards.  That's a lot folks.

Combined, Choice and Felix had 32 yards of rushing.  So basically, Flozell Adams negated two backs worth of production, not to mention the killing of momentum after picking up a nice 1st down inside enemy territory.

I had to post on this, because of all the things in this game that were less than stellar, this is the one that had me swearing at my computer screen.  This is a leftover problem that hasn't been fixed in six years.

At what point are we gonna start yelling to get this guy outta here?  That may sound extreme, but think about this.  If we've got third and 10 at the NYG 40 yard line next week and we have a nice 16 yard throw and catch, but Flo has a penalty, then what.  When we are backed up to our own side of the field, rather than well within field goal range against a good team, 31 yards becomes a lot.

Sorry, had to get that off my chest.

So usatoday came out with offseason grades for all the teams in the NFL.  

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/football/nfl/2009-09-07-offseason-grades_N.htm?loc=interstitialskip

Our grade?  C-    

Meanwhie they agve the Fav-rah led Vikes an A-

Something is fishy here.  Did we really do that bad?  We have healthier backs than last year, hopefully a healthier quarterback, a more polished Roy wi11iams, some new defensive talent, especially the upgraded safety...

OK, so we lost TO. I call the ellis for spencer a wash.  Other than that who did we really lose?

I would argue for a B.  Arguably slightly less talented @ wideout, but improved greatly on pass coverage = at least as good as last year, and if you plan on barber, felix, and romo all staying healthy through the year (God Help Us), then I'd say our offense is significantly better.

Sorry if this should be a fanshot, I don't exactly remember the guidelines.  I figured someone here would be interested in the news that Adam Jones is headed north of the border.  He'll be playing this season for the Winnipeg Blue Bombers of the CFL.  Fantastic.  On one hand, the United States is probably better off, since a less than stellar citizen has left.  On the other hand, this means if he does well we'll definitely see him back in the NFL, which means we all have to hear about his antics.

Anyway, he's definitely out of Dallas.  which is great news.  Let' keep it that way, even if he qualifies for  the CFL hall of fame.

Has anyone else heard this talk of expanding the regular season to 17 or possibly 18 games?

I just read it in an article at USAtoday.com:

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/football/nfl/2009-03-26-schedule-possibilities_N.htm

Let me be the first to say I would love an 18 game schedule.  More football = Happy Pennypacker!  The preseason is bitter-sweet to me.  Yeah, we can evaluate a few younger guys, but it's not really that fun to watch, plus you have to hear the (insert local team here if you don't live in Dallas) fans talk about how they went 4 - 0 in the preseason this year so they can't wait for the real season to start so they can kick some butt.

Anyway, who's in favor?

(In case you didn't actually read the article, 17 games would mean 3 preseason games, 18 obviously means 2 preseason games.)

Ok, so first I must say, I'm not making any of this up.  It may sound that way, but I swear it's true. I haven't touched the thing.

So I work in computers.  There is also a large poster printer there.  Last year someone made superbowl banners, but they made them early, and made a Cowboys one.  It hurt when they didn't need it, but it was great, because I got a high-quality decoration for my office.  It hangs on a white board that has a strip of cork at the top.  There are (were) tacks in the top two corners, and tape on the bottom two.  It stayed this way all thorugh the offseason, I haven't touched it since I hung it.

The day after the Arizona game when Romo got hurt, I was sitting at my desk, and one piece of tape came undone, leaving the corner flapping.

The next week, after losing to the Rams, the same thing happened on the other corner.

I figured, ah well, the tacks will hold it, and they have, for a few good weeks.  This morning, about ten minutes ago, one of the tacks fell out.  The banner now hangs cockeyed and disheveled. I will not touch it.  But it looks like one more misstep means the season is over for our beloved Boys.  That is, if the banner is any indicator.

I'm trying to decide if I will adjust it back to it's correct position when the playoffs start, if we make the playoffs.  What do you think about this?

First of all, let me say that I was quite impressed overall with the team tonight.  It was great to see.  Imagine, if not for a couple errant throws deep in skin's territory, this could have easily been a blow out.

That said, here's what I think our biggest problems are, and I think these were going on early in the season too:

Offense - Penalties (all together, and at the wrong time):

Our stat sheet says 5 penalties for 40 yards I believe.  But one ten yard penalty (Koseir holding) also wiped out a 21 yard play.  The illegal formation call was only a 5 yard penalty, but negated a 16 yard play.  So really, we had 5 penalties for 77 yards, and they always seem to come when we convert for a first down.  That will take the wind out of an offense's sail pretty quickly if first downs keep getting called back.

Defense - Long third downs:

On the Redskin's first drive, we had them backed up for 3rd & 5 and then 3rd & 14.  We let them convert. In the second quarter we couldn't stop them on 3rd & 8. Then, on a drive in the 3rd quarter, they converted on 3rd & 7 and 3rd & 11 on the same drive.  In my mind, if you get a team to 3rd & 4 or 3rd & 5, you need to make that stop the great majority of the time.  It's not realistic to think you'll do it every time, but I think you should be shooting for 75 - 80 %.  Out of 11 times that we had them 3 & 5 or worse, they made it 5 times and missed it 6.  55% stop rate in those situations is not going to work in the playoffs.

Anyway, again, good game.  I like how they use Roy Wi11iams to move the chains, and I've said it before and I'll say it again...I love Martellus Bennet.  Please Jerry, don't let this kid get away!

Guys, we're still in this thing.  We certainly have a tough schedule ahead, but this is doable.

Giants - Probably not great odds this time around, but hey, you never know. (5-4)

Bye- Could not come at a better time, getting guys healthy will be key (5-4)

@Skins- Skins have calmed as of late.  We can take these guys (6-4)

49ers - No excuse for a loss here (7-4)

Seattle- (See 49ers above) (8-4)

Steelers- Definitely beatable if we are healthy, based on yesterday (9-4)

Giants- I'll give this one to us, because the games is a toss up, so we'll split (10-4)

Ravens- I was originally going to give this one to Baltimore, just because.  But, they have Pitt and the Skins right before us, and may be reeling by then. (11-4)

Eagles - Hate to say it, but I have a bad feeling about this one (11-5)

I say we finish 2nd in the division behind the G-men and beat them in the playoffs.

All this is best case scenario, obviously, and is in direct relation to a freeze on getting injured from here on out.

I guess i'm pointing out what everyone else already has.  This was a big win, and the difference between 5-3 and 4-4 (especially in the nfc east) is absolutely HUGE.

Hello guys,

I"m a Cowboys fan from over at BTB.  As you know, the Boys had an embarresing performance again ths week.  The crap has hit the proverbial fan in Big D.

I'm writing here because I live in Western New York.  I was raised up north in a family of giants fans, who were anti-bills.  Since I've been out here (college, and now work) I have become sort of a quazi-bills fan, picking them as "the other team I root for."

So, I just wanted to thank the Bills and their fans in this time of Texas sized struggle, for giving me something I can actually enjoy on Sunday.

I believe the Boys can still turn things around, but unitl then I'll keep watching the Bills games every weekend too.

HEpennypacker (wealthy american industrialist, philanthropist, and...uh...bicyclist)

I'm not sure why I care, but this kinda got to me.  Looking around at the SBnation blogs of our NFC East brethren, nobody mentioned our new acquisition.  Now, I don't want to sound like a stereotypical cowboys fan who wants attention for our team.  The part that really got me is that, at least on the giants blog, there was news about Pacman and his new stupid antics.

Do they not post because they are worried, or are they just the type that only revel in bad news for the Cowboys?

Either way, this makes me hope that TO and RW2 torch the secondaries for two scores apiece, one for each that is a 50+ yard bomb.