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Can Someone Point Me To The Rules For Posting
I was over at Blog-A-Bull and someone said that policing of the posts was "too complex"
But I remember from times reading things over that you all have some great guidelines and rules.... like not referring to the Coach as Josh Mc(and insert you favorite insult here), and other things like that...
I was just wondering if there was a written set of rules or guidelines as you guys seem to have some good ones... either that or great morals... maybe both.
Please and thank you.
Cleveland Browns Release WR Donte Stallworth
Donte Stallworth will get the chance to resurrect his NFL career, but it won’t happen in Cleveland. The Browns released the troubled wide receiver on Monday, wasting little time after NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell said Friday that Stallworth would be reinstated following the Super Bowl.
“I think he’s in a better place than he was,” Goodell said on Friday, adding that he met with Stallworth about a month ago. “I think he recognizes what he did and the horrific nature and the unfortunate outcome, and I think he’s prepared himself to get back in and play.”
RB Dominic Rhodes Released By Bills
Veteran running back Dominic Rhodes was released today by the Buffalo Bills. With Kevin Jones being out for the year with torn ligaments in his foot, the Bears should seriously consider signing Rhodes. Rhodes is considered a good pass-catcher out of the backfield. I think he would be an ideal back-up to Forte and would provide pretty good insurance if Forte were to suffer an injury this season. What do the rest of you think? Should the Bears consider signing Dominic Rhodes?
Broncos camp report: Mile High City should prepare for a new low
Or so CBSSports.com National Columnist Mike Freeman says.
Mike Freeman also has a video up next to the article where he discusses the upcoming Broncos' season with Aaron Lopez (aka: CBSSports.com's correspondent to the Broncos). Of course, like most in the media at this time, they paint a very bleak future for the Broncos. More links and some thoughts after the jump.
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Bears Talk w/ Mully & Hanley - 670 The Score
Wednesday, August 19, 2009:
In the third hour of The Mully & Hanley Show, the guys talk to former NFL Player Rodney Harrison about the Bears. Then Mike Klis from the Denver Post joins the guys to chat about Jay Cutler and what Bears fans should expect this season!
Bears Depth Chart Now Officially Online
I don't know if being last in the division is ever good, but the Bears have finally released their depth chart. They were the last team in the division to do so. Link and some notes after the jump.
Denver Fans Boo Orton During Practice!
Well, as someone who was baffled by the whole "Orton and Cutler are comparable, just look at the numbers" talk, I have to say that this report was music to my ears!
Per Yahoo Sports:
New quarterback Kyle Orton(notes), acquired from Chicago for Pro Bowl passer Jay Cutler(notes) in the biggest NFL trade of the offseason, was booed by the crowd of 13,402 at his unofficial debut at Invesco Field when he threw two interceptions and several bad passes during a structured scrimmage Thursday night.
Orton drew the fans’ ire when he was picked off twice by cornerback Andre’ Goodman(notes), the second of which was returned for a long touchdown.
“I had a good day,” Goodman said in a lonely sentiment afterward.
Orton also was jeered when he threw behind receiver Chad Jackson(notes), again when he missed a wide-open Jabar Gaffney(notes) in the end zone and also when he floated a pass down the middle that Champ Bailey(notes) busted up.
Historical Facts On Rex Grossman
An excerpt: It's well known that Grossman's bones are made out of plaster and glass. Also, he is blind in both eyes and has the ability to spot the only covered man on the field, and therefore is not an ideal quarterback.
(Note: NSFW language in article)
I Just Don't See The Reasoning or Rationale...
I cannot believe that there are people out there who actually believe Jay Cutler, Rex Grossman, and Kyle Orton are comparable. They are most certainly contrastable; Cutler is mobile while Grossman and Orton are not. Or if you like, you can find the contrast between Cutler never having a QB rating below 86.0 in his 3 years in the NFL while Orton and Grossman never have had a QB rating over 79.6 (Orton's rating last year).
I hope to finally put this petty issue to rest. I say petty because, in the end, I really don't believe the media-types and mindless fans actually believe what they are saying. They more than likely just like to argue the counter-point. There are those types in life no matter where you are.
My thesis shall be thus: the more weapons you have on offense, the better your offense will be. I don't mean to wade into the murky waters of bad analogies, but I will if only to make a very general point. Take the NBA's Pheonix Suns of the last few years, before they traded away some of their core pieces. They had multiple weapons on the offensive end; from Nash, Marion, and Stoudemire, to Boris Diaw, Leandro Barbosa, and Raja Bell. They had so many weapons that they could simply outscore the other team at will on seemingly any given night. Now, moving on from that, I understand there is a defensive team and offensive team in football. All the better, I say to that. Let's look at the weapons the Broncos and Bears will have on offense this coming year.
First of all, I would like to look at the top third or so of the running back and quarter back positions, as I think it will shed some light on this subject.
Here are the quarterbacks in the NFL who had at least 3500 passing yards and 20 TD's. I pick these numbers because it gives you about the top one-third (10) QB's in the NFL.
Drew Brees.... 5,069 passing yards..... 34 passing TD's...... 17 interceptions...... 65.0 passing percentage
Kurt Warner.... 4,583 passing yards..... 30 passing TD's...... 14 interceptions...... 67.1 passing percentage
Jay Cutler ........ 4,526 passing yards..... 25 passing TD's...... 18 interceptions...... 62.3 passing percentage
Aaron Rodgers... 4,038 passing yards... 28 passing TD's.. . 13 interceptions...... 63.6 passing percentage
Phillip Rivers ... 4,009 passing yards.... 34 passing TD's...... 11 interceptions....... 65.3 passing percentage
Peyton Manning... 4,002 passing yards... 27 passing TD's... 12 interceptions...... 66.8 passing percentage
Donovan McNabb... 3,916 passing yards... 23 passing TD's... 11 interceptions... 60.4 passing percentage
Matt Cassell .... 3,693 passing yards.... 21 passing TD's...... 11 interceptions........ 63.4 passing percentage
Chad Pennington ... 3,653 passing TD's... 19* passing TD's.... 7 interceptions..... 67.4 passing percentage
next up would be Brett Favre(3,472 , 22 TD's), Tony Romo(3,448 , 26 TD's), and Eli Manning(3,238 , 21 TD's)
All in all, a pretty great group of quarterbacks. With the exception of Favre, if your team has any of those quarterbacks going into this season, you are not worried about the QB position. There are only a few others out there who would make one's team feel comfortable: Matt Ryan and Ben Roethlisberger are the only other legit examples. After that, you can start poking holes pretty easily in every other QB.
That is your upper echelon of QB's folks. Including Favre, Romo, Eli Manning, Ryan, and Roethlisberger, there are 14 quarterbacks listed. Without Favre, you have 13 top QB's, with maybe 3 tiers. Any team that has one of these QB's has a pretty good weapon on offense.
Now let's look at the top 10 or so running backs last year. I'm going to use the following categories to observe the running backs: rushing yards, average yards per rush, td's and I'm throwing receptions and receiving yards since a lot of running backs are a little more versatile these days. However, because I think that you need a running back who can carry the bulk of your yards rushing, I am going to go from most yards rushing down to about 1100 yards, because that's about 10 or so of the top running backs by total rushing yards. If you disagree, then please let me know which name you would take off of the list. As I did with the QB's, I will note some other stellar running backs who are not on the top list.
Adrian Peterson... 1,760 rushing yards.... 4.8 average... 10 TD's.... 21 receptions... 125 receiving yards - 0 rec. TD's
Michael Turner..... 1,699 rushing yards.... 4.5 average... 17 TD's.... 6 receptions...... 41 rec. yards - 0 rec. TD's
DeAngelo Williams.... 1,515 rush yards.... 5.5 average... 18 TD's... 22 receptions.... 121 rec. yards - 2 rec. TD's
Clinton Portis...... 1,487 rushing yards..... 4.3 average..... 9 TD's.... 28 receptions..... 218 rec. yards - 0 rec. TD's
Thomas Jones.... 1,312 rushing yards.... 4.5 average..... 13 TD's... 36 receptions.... 207 rec. yards - 2 rec. TD's
Steve Slaton........ 1,282 rushing yards..... 4.8 average..... 9 TD's..... 50 receptions.... 377 rec. yards - 1 rec. TD
Matt Forte............. 1,238 rushing yards..... 3.9 average...... 8 TD's..... 63 receptions.... 477 rec. yards - 4 rec. TD's
Chris Johnson..... 1,228 rushing yards.... 4.9 average...... 9 TD's..... 43 receptions.... 260 rec. yards - 1 rec. TD
Ryan Grant........... 1,203 rushing yards..... 3.9 average...... 4 TD's..... 18 receptions.... 116 rec. yards - 1 rec. TD
Ladanian Tomlinson... 1,110 rushing yards... 3.8 average... 11 TD's... 52 receptions... 426 rec. yards - 1 rec. TD
Now, any time you have a running back rushing for 1,100 or more yards, you are pretty set at RB. There are guys like Reggie Bush who, while being great assets on offense, require someone else to get the bulk of, or at least as many carries; you know, the guy that can run between the tackles. This is key in the NFL. No way around that one.
I would say that any running back who was able to carry the ball 200 or more times for their team was the main rusher, with anybody else on the team being more of a role-type running back. Reggie Bush only had 106 rushes for 404 yards. He only played in 10 games! Don't even try and predict what his numbers would have been over 16 games because a key part of being a starting running back in the NFL is being able to take the brunt force for 16 games! In baseball you can't just say a pitcher is better than another pitcher because "if he had pitched 200 innings" his numbers would have been so much better. A huge part of being a starting pitcher in baseball is being able to take on those innings and be an innings eater. Again, kind of an iffy analogy, but I think in its general comparison you can see the point I am making.
The Bears now have a starting Quarterback and a starting Runningback that fall into the top 12 or so at their respective position. Michael Turner and Matt Ryan are one great duo at runningback and quarterback. Brett Favre and Thomas Jones were a top combo in the league last year. Eli Manning and Brandon Jacobs were also one of the top tandems. Phillip Rivers and LT were as solid as ever. Aaron Rodgers and Ryan Grant were a surprisingly stellar pairing. Marc Bulger and Stephen Jackson were also a pretty good combo. For the most part, those teams did not lose because of their QB/RB play. The Jets imploded and so did the the Broncos. But just as much blame, if not more, could be placed on the paultry defenses. Green Bay certainly had a much better offense than defense. I don't think anyone in GB is screaming to scrap the QB and RB. Nor in San Diego are they clamoring for a better offense. As far as offense goes, those teams had the weapons to win.
Now, I will move on to one more interesting subject: Denver's running game last year. The Broncos averaged more rushing yards per game (116.4 - 12th in the league) than the Bears (104.6 - 24th in the league).
I was shocked when I saw that stat. Denver's running game was supposedly in shambles, and yet they averaged more yards per game than the Bears? So, it occurred to me that the Bears did play more of a "win the field-position battle and don't make too many mistakes" type of game while the Broncos obviously had more of a "just outscore the other team" kind of gameplan. I think as coach in the NFL, or in any sport for that matter, you are going to adjust your style of play based on the types of players you have. You won't see the Pheonix Suns running as much with Shaq on the floor, the same way you are probably not going to run-n-gun with Kyle Orton as your QB. You're also not going to run the ball like crazy if Drew Brees or Peyton Manning are your QB's, which is not to say that you can't have a stellar running game and passing game. But I think you can see the point I am making. So, after seeing the stats on the Broncos' running game and the Bears' running game, I decided to look at the actual running backs on each team.
Denver Broncos, running backs by games played, rushes, yards, and rushing average:
Note: I included every rusher who accumulated 100 or more yards last season for the Broncos.
P.J. Pope - 6 games - 17 rushes - 130 yards - 7.6 rushing average
Andre Hall - 8 games - 25 rushes - 144 yards - 4.1 rushing average
Tatum Bell - 7 games - 44 rushes - 249 yards - 5.7 rushing average
Selvin Young - 8 games - 61 rushes - 303 yards - 5.0 rushing average
Michael Pittman - 8 games - 76 rushes - 320 yards - 4.2 rushing average
Peyton Hillis - 12 games - 68 rushes - 343 yards - 5.0 rushing average
(Jay Cutler - 16 games - 57 rushes - 200 yards - 3.5 rushing average)
I have to say, I did not keep track of the Broncos running game last year, can someone please tell me why they had 7 players who recorded at least 100 rushing yards for them? Did they just have that many injuries? You would think that with 4 players having a 5.0 or better rushing average that one of them would have been able to take hold of the starting spot. I know Denver has loved using multiple runningbacks in the past, but really.... 6 rushers accumulating at least 100 yards and the QB going for 200 as well? And don't say "well Cutler doesn't count, he's a QB" because you wouldn't say it about Vick... 200 yards rushing is 200 yards rushing. Anyhow, I could be the illogical type and say, "well, the Broncos had good WR's and four good RB's and that is why Cutler could stand back and throw the ball and not get sacked very much." Or I could be reasonable and say, "Denver had a Pro Bowl QB and that is why their receivers had success and that is why no matter who they put in the back field they were able to succeed at running the ball." I could also guess that their O-line was pretty decent, if not stellar.
Now let's look at the Bears running backs last year who recorded at least 100 rushing yards:
Note: Please, take your time, this list is a long one!
Matt Forte - 16 games - 316 rushes - 1,238 rushing yards - 3.9 average
Kevin Jones - 11 games - 34 rushes - 109 rushing yards - 3.2 average
Adrian Peterson Lite - 15 games - 20 rushes - 100 rushing yards - 5.0 average
Wow, so if rushing average were everything then the Broncos had 6 ball-carriers better than Matt Forte last year. Not only that, but the Bears third option was better than their starter! Well, good thing rushing average isn't everything or else LaDanian Tomlinson and his 3.8 rushing average last year would have retired.
So, here is my final take on all of this.... you can spit out all of the stats you want, but it really does come down to the eye test; the stats just help support the story at the end of the day. There is no stat for Orton overthrowing Hester by 5-6 yards, or throwing at teh feet of someone on a slant route. Just like there's no real stat for Cutler putting the ball in the hands of the receiver that is 30+ yards down field.
There's no stat that says, "hey guys, look, Forte didn't rush the ball for a high average, but he rushed the ball every game, every Sunday 20-25+ times... he gave stability to the RB position."
All-in-all, my final take is this: you can't just say Greg Olsen and Dez Clark don't count as receivers. You can't say Forte doesn't count as a receiver. Those three right there are a huge part of the receiving game. That doesn't make the Bears passing game a bad one. It does say a bit about the fact that we didn't have too many established, starting WR's last year. Certainly if we had a TO, Randy Moss, or Boldin, the QB would have been throwing more to that WR and thus less to the other three mentioned. But when you take into account, Forte, Hester, Olsen, and Clark and add into that mix guys like Iglesias, Bennett, Rideau, and Knox, you have to come to the conclusion that the offense will not be the weak link of this team next year. I'll even go as far as saying that the Bears have a top 10 offense.
In fact, I like the Bears' offense a heck of a lot more than I like the Broncos' offense. If I were a fan of that team, I would be a bit worried about the offensive situation. But I'm also pretty honest with myself.
Honestly, the Bears defense can only be better than it was last year, in my opinion. The Bears with a so-so offense went 9-7. With the additions on offense, plus a most-likely slightly improved defense at the least, I like the Bears chances of going 11-5. Honestly, I think 13-3ish is achievable depending on the play of the defense.
Take that post how you will. I hope you enjoyed my first post here on the WCG.
Oh, and compare Orton and any of those 6 running backs on Denver to the other combos around the league... If you're a Broncos fan you might start to worry if you are honest with yourself.
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