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Slick Rick: Year 3

 

This is just a thought. I'm going to over simplify it and not bring in all the players, stats, highlights and lowlights. I'm not an NCAA CFB expert or anything.

I'm just doing a simple side by side comparison of UCLA's most recent 2 coaches.

We all realize that they want to become a solid football program. In the general sense "we" all would like that too, with close games, great games, and true rivalry. However, the little trojan inside all of us still wants to see the destroyed.

Nevertheless, I'm going to speak about "CRN" as they like to call him. Let's not worry about his time at Colorado or UW. First off though, let's bring up good ol' Karl Dorrell. He was a nice guy, a conservative fellow, and a bit on the quiet side; unlike his predecessor Bob Toledo or Pete Carroll for that matter, it seemed that his humble demeanor wasn't angry enough.

Now Toledo seemed like a solid coach, with a 3-4 record against USC and 4 bowl appearances. Like Toledo, KD had his highlighted opportunity midway. Through KD's 5 year stint, he too managed 4 bowl appearances. However he was only 1-4 against USC. But that one was sure lasting, wasn't it kids?

As you can see, pressure came on beating USC, not necessarily having a winning record or going for the MNC. Nope. They just wanted to duplicate Donahue's solid record of maintaining that nice little streak in our beloved rivalry; well maybe a rose bowl game.

Enter the prodigal son. I mean he has everything KD doesn't. The charm, the fire, the talk. How about the walk? Eh, somewhat, but keeping it inside D1, this is where it gets funky.

You see, KD's record at UCLA stands like this. Just keep in mind the 3rd year:

 

Year Team Overall Conference
Bowl

 

2003 UCLA 6–7 4–4
L Silicon Valley

2004 UCLA 6–6 4–4
L Las Vegas

2005 UCLA 10–2 6–2
W Sun

2006 UCLA 7–6 5–4
L Emerald




 

I put up the fourth year because he broke USC's streak. Now if we step a little bit back in time, we'll see BT's record for:

 

1996 UCLA 5-6 4-4

1997 UCLA 10–2 7-1
W Cotton Bowl Classic
1998 UCLA 10–2 8-0
L Rose Bowl


Now for shits 'n giggles, let's even bring up TD's record:

 

1976 UCLA 9-2-1 6-1
L 6-36 Liberty Bowl
1977 UCLA 0-11 0-8
1978 UCLA 8-3-1 6-2
T 10-10 Fiesta Bowl


Okay I digress, I meant to only to talk about KD and RN. How is RN holding up?

 

2008 UCLA 4–8 3–6
2009 UCLA 6–6 3–6

 

What, no bowl yet?

 

Just kidding. So off to a wishy-washy start. It's okay, it happened to Donahue. The point I'm trying to make is that all coaches seem to follow a similar pattern: Working with what you got and not expect miracles. With the exception of BT, for the most part, year 3 has proven to be a crucial point. I can understand that RN wants to be the fire back in UCLA's eyes that hasn't been seen in well over a decade. But that doesn't happen overnight. What does happen is having a decent season record that does make you (at least) bowl eligible as given by his predecessors.

I believe that it will RN can give UCLA a solid record consistency, and even some bowl appearances, perhaps after his "rebuilding year(s)" is over. he's a far cry away from any of UCLA's predecessors though; and by no means is he the messiah some fan bases make him off to be. Short of duplicating the Y3 tradition, I would believe that 2010 will illustrate that "CRN" is more show than go.

While I'm thankful that he gave us back the home jerseys tradition, outside of that, it's just hot air. I can't help but wonder if the loyalist Bruins will turn on him as well. I'll end it on this note, a nice little letter demand found online years ago about "dumping dorrell:"

  1. 1-3 against Southern Cal.
  2. No Pac-10 championships.
  3. No BCS bowl games.
  4. 1-10 on the road against teams with a winning record.
  5. Worst starting 3- AND 4-year record of any UCLA football coach since WW2, including Bob Toledo who was fired.
  6. Worse winning percentage than Bob Toledo, who was fired.
  7. 3-11 against ranked teams.
  8. 2-7 against top 10 teams.
  9. Only 6 conference wins against teams over .500.
  10. 19-14 in the Pac-10.
  11. 8-17 against teams with a winning record.
  12. 10 losses to unranked teams.
  13.  He has a losing record after October, 6-12.
  14.  Embarrassing losses to Wyoming, Fresno State, Arizona, Washington State at home and Southern Cal.
  15.  Only 1 big game win.
  16.  Revolving door for assistant coaches.
  17.  80% of Bruins fans polled on Bruinsnation.com disapprove of the job Karl Dorrell is doing.

 

Funny how those highlighted items strike a resemblance to what RN is doing now. So again, we'll just have to see what "CRN" does in Y3 (and maybe Y4). A MNC, hell even P10, championship doesn't matter. Just beat the Trojans, right? That's what you were really hired to do, what KD couldn't.

 

Between you and me, I wouldn't be surprised if BN (or whomever) ask for his head after 2010. Then again, he could just become Los Angeles' very own Charlie Weis.

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Nike fails at USC apparel

This has been a hot topic lately, I'll link the blog site, but it's true.

 

Blah.  You can see it for yourself at this Nike link.

 

Unless I am being punked this is absurd.  Unless I went spontaneously colorblind, this is utterly insane.  Nike spends more money on their products and ads and R&D than almost anyone out there.  I know sometimes spicing up a team’s clothing designs sparks sales.  Sometimes, we like a Dodger hat in brown with a key lime LA on it.  We like to get extra funky sometimes.

But honestly Nike, what the hell is this?

 

 

USC gear in UCLA colors.  Unless you come from a “mixed marriage” of a Bruin and Trojan, who the hell is wearing these things?  This is honestly like wearing a t-shirt with a picture of another guy having sex with your girlfriend on it.  It’s brutal.  It’s a bastardization of all that is right with the university.

Is there no intern at Nike that spoke up and said “yo, these are UCLA colors, dude”?   No one?

 

I honestly think I’m being deceived here.  There’s no way this can be real.  Is this the best hoax ever or the worst planning ever?  You tell me.

I am sure Bruins will buy this though.  They can finally wear the logo of a winning team to their football games without being pointed at in a crowd.

All right, all right.  I’m having a little fun at UCLA’s expense.  That said, I am sure they don’t like this anymore than the Trojans do.  Brutus Buckeye dressed in Maize and Blue?  The Sooner Schooner draped in Burnt Orange?  The Yale Bulldog in a crimson sweater?  What on earth was Nike thinking?

Oh.  They weren’t.

 

Taken from the Trojan blog found here. The comments are funny.

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Sanchez passes on N.Y. invite for draft

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USC's Sanchez passes on N.Y. invite for draft The player's brother says Trojan QB has turned down an offer to join other prospects at Radio City Music Hall in favor of remaining in Southland with family and friends.

 

Nine pro prospects will be heading to New York for the NFL draft, but USC quarterback Mark Sanchez will not be among them.

Sanchez was invited to attend, his brother said today, but decided against it because he wants to be with family and friends for the April 25-26 draft. He is expected to be among the first 10 players selected; The Times' latest mock draft has him going eighth to Jacksonville.

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Tommy Trojan painted blue.

Taken from the LAT blogs:

Tommy Trojan feeling blue -- victim of classic prank

Tommy_trojan_painted_blueWhile the cat's away the mice will play.

With thousands of USC students on their annual Bay Area pilgrimage (the football team is playing Stanford this weekend), pranksters doused the school's iconic Tommy Trojan in blue paint.

Formally known as the Trojan Shrine, the lifesize bronze statue has previously fallen victim to paint (and worse) during the week prior to the football game against crosstown rival UCLA. In response, Tommy is traditionally wrapped in duct tape several days prior to that game and an organization called Trojan Knights stands vigil.

There was no 24-hour guard this weekend. Tommy was pretty lonely, but he wasn't blue util he had an unexpected visitor.

Few details are known at this time. It appears the incident occurred late Friday night or early Saturday morning. Considering the colors, suspicion will immediately point to Westwood. USC plays UCLA in the Rose Bowl on December 6.

School officials rushed to have Tommy cleaned up on Saturday morning. They can't be too pleased, but a good prank can always help keep the rivalry spirited. At least once in a blue moon.

-- Adam Rose
Photo by Lauren

 

On the webcam, from 4:00 to 4:03 am you can see someone run up and douse Tommy.

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USC and UCLA to play with home jerseys

Bumped...this is what I meant about the rivalry being fun again. - Paragon

Coaches Neuheisel and Carroll have agreed to have each team wear home uniforms when the two rivals meet on Dec. 6 at the Rose Bowl.

Prowling around on the interwebs, I come across this.

If this is the real deal, THIS IS GOING TO BE GREAT!

We'll be going back to the good old days of fierce rivalries and great games, like so:




According to Yahoo! Sports, Neuheisel and Trojan coach Pete Carroll have agreed to have each team wear home uniforms when the two rivals meet on Dec. 6 at the Rose Bowl.

Before 1982, the teams had a tradition: Both teams would wear their home uniforms. UCLA would don its home blue jerseys and USC would wear its home red. But in that year, the NCAA ruled that the visiting team must wear away uniforms. Since then, the visiting team has worn white to avoid a penalty and a forfeited time-out in the first half.

Neuheisel and Carroll have reportedly agreed that the home team will take a time-out to offset the one the visitors must forfeit. The penalty will be declined. The agreement is said to be set to last as long as Neuheisel and Carroll remain coaches of the respective schools.


link here

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Only in a perfect world

USC over Gators in the NC? It could happen if the playoffs existed.

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UCLA's Dorrell has been fired.

Bumped...We will obviously be interested in who ucla picks as their next head coach. In the grand scheme of things it really doesn't matter as SC needs to stay on message and focus on their own thing. I may have some thoughts in a few days as I already have a post in the can ready to go but I will more interested in some of the fall out. Dorrell is only part of the story, recruits other coaches and the like will all be in play as things progress. It will be fun to watch. - Paragon

UCLA told head coach Karl Dorrell on Monday that he has been fired, a source close to the coach told ESPN's Joe Schad. Dorrell's buyout will pay just over $2 million.

This taken from the LA times with a statement from athletics director Dan Guerrero:

Dorrell out as UCLA coach

By Chris Foster, Los Angeles Times Staff Writer
11:41 AM PST, December 3, 2007

Karl Dorrell's tenure as UCLA's football coach came to an end today with the announcement that ended weeks of speculation about the coach's future.

"This was a very difficult decision for me," UCLA Athletic Director Dan Guerrero said in a statement. "Karl has represented this program with dignity and class. He is a true Bruin and I respect what he has accomplished in his five years as our head coach, particularly off the field. But, at the end of the day, the focus has to be on results and I felt that a change was in the best interest for the future of our program."

A news conference at UCLA was called for early this afternoon.

Boise State's Chris Petersen, Texas Tech's Mike Leach and former NFL coach Steve Mariucci have already been contacted by representatives on behalf of the athletic department. DeWayne Walker will be the Bruins' interim coach for the Las Vegas Bowl on Dec. 22.

Petersen, sources said, is Guerrero's top choice, but Mariucci and Leach are equally strong candidates. Mariucci also comes with less red tape, as both Petersen and Leach are under hefty, multiyear contracts that would have to be bought out. Walker, whom Washington State has contacted for its head coach opening, will also get some consideration. A source familiar with the athletic department said that Bruins officials will try to retain Walker, the lynchpin in recruiting efforts, no matter who is hired as head coach.

Edited for length.

UPDATE: From Dohn’s Blog

Let the games begin…

(Emphasis mine)

Head coaching experience a must?

Karl Dorrell didn't have any head coaching experience when UCLA hired him five years ago. Defensive coordinator DeWayne Walker would be a candidate, but he doesn't have head coaching experience either. In Dan Guerrero's press conference today, he said head coaching experience was ''pretty important''.

But he also said: ``You never say never.'' Certainly doesn't sound good for Walker, who's a candidate for the Washington State opening.

What do you think? Does UCLA need a coach with head coaching experience?

By the way, Boise State's Chris Petersen said today that he's not interested in the UCLA opening.

He’s interested, don’t be fooled.

Update II: here is a link to Peterson saying he is not interested in the ucla job. Reading a transcript is one thing seeing him say it is quite another. We’ll see…

Poll
Who do you think will be the next coach for UCLA?
Who Cares!!
3 votes
Chris Petersen, Boise State
11 votes
Mike Leach, Texas Tech
5 votes
Steve Mariucci, former NFL coach
10 votes
DeWayne Walker
3 votes

32 votes | Poll has closed

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