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In Nix We Trust Pt 2 - #Billsmafia - (Massive Bills Analysis; must read Bills fans!) - (Updated 5/9)
My fellow rumblers,
For those of you who have not read my original article - it can be viewed here In Buddy Nix I Trust - Pt 1 (if you have the time, you will not regret reading it).
I will try to keep this as "short" and straight to the point as possible. (If you don't want to read the whole thing, emphasize on the bold statements)
Overview:
- Reviewing the 2012 Draft
- Reviewing the 2012 Offseason
- Depth chart and 53 man roster
- Previewing the AFC East and the season
- Conclusion - In Nix We Trust
PART 1 - REVIEWING THE 2012 DRAFT
As I predicted Nix & Gailey followed their 2011 NFL draft, which yielded 5 starters and 4 significant contributors, with a superb 2012 Draft. I get pissed off when professional writers don't grade the Bills with a solid "A." Why don't they deserve it?
- Pick 1.10: Stephen Gilmore (CB) - South Carolina
I love this pick. Greg Cosell believes Gilmore is the best CB in this class and compared him to Charles Woodson.
- Pick 2.9: Cordy Glenn (T) - Georgia
Grade: A+. This is my favorite pick of the entire 2012 NFL Draft. Nix would have chosen Glenn in the 1st round if Gilmore was taken. After the draft Nix explained his strategy: "We put it out there and tried to spread the rumor that he was a guard to hope somebody wouldn't take him." Smart strategy. Nix/Gailey have made it clear they believe Glenn can play LT. Glenn was rated as a top 15 pick and we got him in the second round with out moving up. Are you kidding me? Awesome.
- Pick 3.6: TJ Graham (WR) - NC St.
Graham replaces Roscoe Parrish in our offensive scheme. He is designated a "burner" who will help us "stretch the field." He is rumored to run a 4.29 sec 40. Graham will complement the bigger possession receivers in Johnson, Nelson, and
- Pick 4.10: Nigel Bradham (OLB) - Florida St.
Bradham brings depth to the 4-3 OLB position behind Nick Barnett and Kirk Morrison
- Pick 4.29: Ron Brooks (CB) - LSU
I absolutely positively love this pick. Brooks is extremely athletic, presents high upside, is a bit raw, but can contribute as a Nickel/Dime and/or special teams immediately.
- Pick 5.9: Zebrie Sanders (OT) - Florida St.
Grade: A+. Sanders was rated as a high 3rd round pick and described as a natural swing left tackle. To pick up Sanders at the top of the 5th not only fills a need, but is great value, and follows Nix concept of taking the BPA. Love it
- Pick 5.12: Tank Cardner (ILB) - TCU
Carder should be ranked higher but suffered from injuries in his previous season of play. Once again this is a steal and builds depth behind Sheppard at the MLB position.
- Pick 6.8: Mark Asper (G) - Oregon
Asper builds depth on the offensive line, but does not necessarily fill a need - we seam to be OK at guard. There were a few players available that were ranked higher according to overall rankings. But of course I'm sure Nix has a reason for this pick. A few names to keep in mind: BJ Cunningham (WR), Tom Compton (OT), Marvin McNutt (WR), Tommy Streeter (WR), Brandon Washington (G), Billy Winn (DT), Travis Lewis (OLB), Alfonzo Dennard (CB), Rishard Matthews (WR)
- Pick 7.44: John Patter (K) - Western Michigan
Patter has a big leg, and provides depth behind Ryan Lindell who was injury prone last season. Patter could eventually succeed Lindell at the very best.
Overall the draft provided the Bills with more talent and depth on need positions. We improved considerably coming out of the draft. Although it is relatively foolish to grade the draft now; I would give the Bills a solid "A" for following their big board AND filling their needs.
PART 2 - REVIEWING THE OFFSEASON
Going into the off season we had to improve the talent on our team, had significant holes at LT, Pass Rush, and defensive depth. We had to re-sign Stevie Johnson, and Fred Jackson. Buddy Nix and Chan Gailey filled most if not all their holes this off season, kept our talent, and improved the team through the draft.
I believe there are three main factors that go into building successful NFL franchises. The most successful teams in the NFL the past decade (Colts, Patriot, Steelers, Packers, Ravens...) have complied with this criteria. They are, not in any specific order...
- Successful NFL franchises build their team through the draft, draft well, and make major HITS in the first round. (Example Steelers 1st rd picks: David Decastro (G), Cameron Heyward (DE), Maurkice Pouncey (OC), Ziggy Hood (NT), Rashard Mendenhall (RB), Lawrence Timmons (LB).....)
- Successful NFL franchises, once discovering talent through the draft or offseason, KEEP their talent on their team. (Example à Colts have found and at some point re-sign Dwight Freeney, Robert Mathis, Reggie Wayne, Jeff Saturday)
- Successful NFL franchises create successful front offices with consistent GM's who are not afraid to choose a coach they believe will yield success for their team. Successful NFL franchises get their franchise coach. Successful NFL franchises have a head coach that fits the teams personality, is consistent, and progresses the team over the years. This may not be a luxury pick, but one that works...(Steelers - Mike Tomlin, Ravens - Haurbaugh, Patriots - Bellicheat, Packers - Mike McCarthy, Colts - Tony Dungy)
There was a point this decade where the Bills did not come close to meeting this criteria. The last 2/3 years; since Buddy Nix and Chan Gailey joined the organization, do I believe this franchise meets this criteria and is headed for success.
- Pass Rush Need: Fulfilled by the addition of Mario Williams (DE) & Mark Anderson (DE)
- LT Need: Fulfilled by drafting Cordy Glenn and Zebrie Sanders
- No shut down corner: Fulfilled by drafting Stephen Gilmore
- Retaining our talent: Re-signed Stevie Johnson, Fred Jackson, Terrence McGee, Scott Chandler, Bryan Scott to name just a few...
This has been the best off season of any team in the NFL. Which team in the NFL can say they have improved this significantly from 2011 to 2012? This also may be the most important off season in Buffalo Bills history - an off season that could finally get us over our playoff slump
Part 3 - DEPTH CHART AND 53 MAN ROSTER
I will attach an image later
Depth Chart (1st team, 2nd team, ext)
Offense (25):
- QB: Ryan Fitzpatrick, Brad Smith, Tyler Thigpen
- RB: Fred Jackson, CJ Spiller, Tashard Choice
- FB: Corey McIntyre
- LT: Cordy Glenn, Chris Hairston
- LG: Andy Levitre, Michael Jasper
- C: Eric Wood
- RG: Craig Urbik, Chad Rinehart
- RT: Erik Pears, Zebrie Sanders
- TE: Scott Chandler, Mike Caussin, Lee Smith
- WR-X: Stevie Johnson
- WR-Y: David Nelson, Marcus Easley, David Clowney
- WR-Z: Donald Jones, TJ Graham
Defense (25):
- RE: Mark Anderson, Shawn Merriman
- UT: Kyle Williams, Alex Carrington
- NT: Marcell Dareus, Torrell Troup, Kellen Heard
- LE: Mario Williams, Chris Kelsay
- WLB: Nick Barnett, Chris White, Tank Cardner
- MLB: Kelvin Sheppard
- SLB: Kirk Morrison, Nigel Bradham
- CB R: Terrence McGee, Aaron Williams (Nikel), Ron Brooks
- CB L: Stephen Gilmore, Leodis McKelvin, Justin Rodgers
- FS: Jarius Byrd
- SS: George Wilson, Da'norris Searcy, Bryan Scott
Special Teams (3):
- K: Ryan Lindell
- P: Brian Moorman
- LS: Garrison Sanbourn
PART 4 - 2012 SEASON AND THE REST OF THE AFC EAST
What's going on with the rest of the AFC East? Did teams improve or take a step back?
- New England Patriots - Improved
Patriots had a great draft and added important players in free agency to improve their roster. The defense will be significantly improved - a result of their first two draft picks. However their secondary is still questionable. The offense improved via signing Jabar Gaffney, Donte Stallworth, Anthony Gonzalez, and Brandon Llyod. An already potent offense improved. Bottom line - the Patriots are still the team to beat in the AFC East, but we have make significant strides to catch up.
- New York Jets - Declined
The Jets lack the cohesive locker room and team leadership to succeed. They have become the laughing stock of the NFL. Tim Tebow was signed, yes, but how much does he improve the team? Mark Sanchez has yet to show the ability to carry this team. The talent is present on the team, the concept of team is not. The Jets are more of a reality TV show then an NFL team.
- Miami Dolphins - Declined and Rebuilding
The Dolphins have a talented roster however there are too many changes. New coaching staff, switching to a 4-3 defense, and a rookie QB don't make things easier. Although they had a successful draft - the Dolphins are in rebuild mode and have not done enough to improve themselves from last year. But mind you, this team will still be competitive so they won't be easy to beat.
In 2011 (Home:5-3 Away:1-7 AFC-East: 1-5) - We were decent at home to start the season. We were terrible on the road. And we were terrible in the AFC-East. We need to improve against our division and play better on the road.
Looking at the 2012 Season: (Predicting W/L)
- @ NY Jets
W - The Bills have too much momentum this off season & beat the Jets - HOME - KC Chiefs
W - Decent team that is returning from numerous injuries and coaching changes - @ Cleveland Browns
W - Browns are a mess esp offensively and continue to rebuild - HOME - NE Patriots
W - Home game against Patriots - too much riding for the team and fans, Bills will be more motivated - @ SF 49ers
L - 49ers could be the best team in the NFL; tough to score on their D - @ Arizona Cardinals
W - A rebuilding team that lacks offensive and defensive identity - HOME - Tennessee Titans
W - Titans are a team on the rise - but our defense will stop their young offense - BYE WEEK - Perfect timing for a bye, dead middle of season, w tough games coming up
- @ Houston Texans
L - Could be the best team in the AFC with a potent offense and speedy defense - @ NE Patriots
L - Patriots will not be beaten at home after loosing to us at OBD - HOME - Miami Dolphins
W - Bk home from 2 road losses, Bills get back on track against Tannehill who starts his 1st game - @ Indy Colts
W - Andrew luck is not enough to compensate for a heavily rebuilding team - HOME - Jacksonville Jaguars
W - They have a dangerous Punter, he should not be taken lightly.... - HOME - St. Louis Rams
W - Rams are another rebuilding team, but Fischer is a good coach. Close game... - HOME - Seattle Seahawks
L - This should be a win, but Seahawks are also pushing for playoffs & win a close game - @ Miami Dolphins
L - Road woes, and the Tannehill starting to gain steam as starting QB is enough to beat Bills - HOME - NY Jets
W - Motivated back at Ralph, Bills close season by beating Jets a 2nd time
Could the season transpire this way? Absolutely. It is very possible however It is too early to tell. I make this prediction based on how the other teams in the NFL have progressed from last season, and the tendency of our Bills. 11-5 record buys us a ticket to the playoffs as the 6th seed WC. Cross your fingers, play to whatever deity you believe in, hope, do whatever you can. This is our year.
PART 5 - CONCLUSION
In my previous article, I stated with confidence that I trust the teams destiny and success in the hands of Buddy Nix and Chan Gailey. I continue to have faith in my head coach and front office. This offseason is arguably the best off season any team in the NFL had this year. Furthermore - this could be the most important off season in the history of the Bills. No playoffs in decades, and years of continuous heart break. This years off season, this years draft, last years draft, team progression, and team attitude the last 2/3 years has made me incredibly excited and confident in the Bills. Buddy Nix has built a winning team, and a young roster that is built for not just one year, but years to come. This team will continue to grow and improve. It is an exciting time to be a Bills fan. I leave you with the following statements:
1 - In Buddy Nix I trust
2 - Bills Mafia 4 Life
-Moose
REPLIES:
- I apologize about the spelling and grammatical errors. I didn't have the time or motivation to proofread
- I made a few errors on the roster - the rest I am quite confident on. Some things are based on my opinion/beliefs. Roosevelt was removed and replaced with Lee Smith. Asper was replaced with Jasper at LG. Jasper was replaced by Kellen Heard.
- 11-5 and five record is ambitious, high hoping, and optimistic BUT doesn't mean it is not possible. The Bills have a lot of momentum going into the 2012 season - a result of a successful off season. Furthermore fans are excited, the nation is interested, and we continue to play the underdog role. A 10-6 will NOT get us a a playoff birth. AFC North has 3 playoff teams. We have to contend with the Patriots and Jets. Houston Texans take one spot. The West is open.
- I received the following tweet from Michael Jasper: "@QBMoose_007 same here im backin Andy up and learning fast IDC wat anyone says i can DOMINATE at this level people forget i played D1"
- Look forward to more replies....
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The Bills head into the 2nd round with MANY OT still available (Poll)
I won't discuss our pick today. What I will do is show you who the best remaining players are and we can think about what direction the Bills might be going into.
TOP 32 heading into Friday Night's 2nd Round
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Cordy Glenn (OT) - Georgia (6'5'' 345lb, 5.15, 31, 35.75) |
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Courtney Upshaw (DE/OLB) - Alabama (6'2'' 272lb, 22, 32) |
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Jonathan Martin (OT) - Stanford (6'5'' 312lb, 34inch) |
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Coby Fleener (TE) - Stanford (6'6'' 247lb) |
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Jerel Worthy (DT) - Michigan St. (6'2'' 308lb, 4.97, 33inch) |
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Stephen Hill (WR) - Georgia Tech (6'4'' 215lb, 4.36) |
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Janoris Jenkins (CB) - North Alabama (5'10'' 193lb, 4.44) |
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Devon Still (DT) - Penn St. (6'5'' 303lb, 5.00, 26, 33.25) |
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Peter Konz (C.) - Wisconsin (6'5'' 314lb, 18, 33) |
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Mike Adams (OT) - Ohio St. (6'7'' 323lb, 34") |
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Andre Branch (DE) - Clemson (6'4'' 259lb, 4.62, 34inch) |
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Lavonte David (OLB) - Nebraska (6'1'' 233lb) |
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Amini Silatolu (OG) - Midwestern St. (6'4'' 311, 5.43, 28, 33") |
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Bobby Massie (OT) - Mississippi (6'6'' 316lb, 5.23, 22, 35'') |
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Dwayne Allen (TE) - Clemson (6'3'' 255lb) |
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Brandon Thompson (DT) - Clemson (6'2'' 314lb, 35, 33.5) |
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Rueben Randle (WR) - LSU (6'3'' 210lb, 4.38) |
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Kendall Reyes (DT) - Connecticut (6'4'' 300lb) |
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Vinny Curry (DE/OLB) - Marshall (6'3'' 266lb, 4.85, 32.75) |
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Lamar Miller (RB) - Miami (5'11'' 212lb, 4.38) |
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Alshon Jeffery (WR) - South Carolina (6'3'' 216lb, 4.48) |
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Zach Brown (OLB) - UNC (6'1'' 236lb) |
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Trumaine Johnson (CB) - Montana (6'2'' 204lb, 4.5) |
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Jared Crick (DE) - Nebraska (6'4'' 280lb, 4.94, 32") |
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Kelechi Osemele (OT/OG) - Iowa St. (6'6'' 333lb, 5.36, 32, 35.85") |
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Jayron Hosley (CB) - Virginia Tech (5'10'' 178lb, 4.38) |
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Alfonzo Dennard (CB) - Nebraska (5'10'' 204lb, 4.51) |
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Josh Robinson (CB) - Central Florida |
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Ronnell Lewis (OLB) - Oklahoma (6'2'' 244lb) |
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Alameda Ta'amu (DT) - Washington (6'3'' 348lb) |
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Brandon Boykin (CB) - Georgia (5'10'' 182lb) |
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Casey Hayward (CB) - Vanderbilt |
We all know that Buddy Nix is very high on Cordy Glenn - but he goes into the 2nd round as the BPA. There are other LT prospects available. Which one do you like? Will the bills address a different position such as WR?
This poll is strictly for OT - because that is what I believe they will address tomorrow.
The picks before us.......
1 - Rams...WR? OL? LB?
2 - Colts...WR? TE? OL?
3 - Ravens..OC? OL? WR? ILB?
4 - Broncos...DT? WR? CB? S?
5 - Browns...WR? RT?
6 - Jaguars...OL? DE?
7 - Rams...WR? OL? LB?
8 - Panthers...WR? CB? DT?
9 - Bills
As you can see - before us - The Rams, Ravens are teams that would consider OT as their #1 need position.
I would love Bobby Massie - seeing as how I think Glenn and Martin get taken before we get a chance to jump.
See you tomorrow night Rumblers!
In Buddy Nix I Trust (Preparation for draft day, and the future)
INTRODUCTION
Over the last 6 months, on Buffalo Rumblings, we have expressed what we want our beloved Buffalo Bills to do via free agency and the draft. We have written countless fan posts discussing various free agents, trade situations, and hundreds of mock drafts. We have expressed what we "think" the Bills do. We have argued, undermined, fought, discussed, applauded, and cheered each other's posts - all having a common theme - How to make the Buffalo Bills a better team.
When someone posts a mock draft; we become passionate - "no f(*#$ing way they would pick that player", "You are crazy", "OMG I WOULD BE SO HAPPY" "If the Bills don't take this or that player I will hate them forever...." ext ext ext.
With the draft only 2 days away we eagerly anticipate what Rodger Goodell will announce...."With the 10th pick in the 2012 NFL Draft, The Buffalo Bills select _____________, position, college" And then we will be flooded with emotion. Some people will be excited beyond their imaginations in pure euphoria. Some people will be depressed. Some people will be angry - throwing empty beer cans across the room, cursing at the front office.......
At the end of the day I have one message, one mentality, one common theme, one attitude for all my fellow Rumblers going into the draft and into the future: In Buddy Nix We Trust
MOOSE WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?
We have been through the weirdest cycles the past 10 years. The team sucks. The team becomes mediocre. In the off season we have hope. And when the next season comes along, our hope is shattered. All of us have predicted at some point, that the Bills would have a winning record "next season." Never happened.
We have gone through heart breaks. Multiple coaching staffs. A terrible front office for most of the decade destroyed our team, and slowed the growth of our beloved franchise. Two men can be blamed for a lost decade: Tom Donahoe and Tom Modrak. Just hearing/reading those names make me cringe.
After 10 years of absolute depression - Mr. Wilson had enough. He went out to get things right, along with a man named Russ Brandon. An old man who saw his franchise in its prime, and a young man who was motivated to keep the Bills viable were sick of a lost decade.
WHAT HAPPENED NEXT?
The Buffalo Bills hired Buddy Nix who at first was a scout for us; eventually promoted to GM on December 31 2009. I looked at an old post Brian posted - "Are you happy with Buddy Nix as GM" - and 50% of us said No. Nix went out and talked to the chin, talked to mike shannahan, spoke to haurbaugh - he went after big names. But they all declined. The effort was there, but our franchise was not viable. But he found a guy that he believed in, and really liked. Chan Gailey was hired as our HC. The combination of Nix/Gailey are the spark to turning our franchise around, and bring the Buffalo Bills back to NFL prominence.
WHAT HAVE THEY DONE?
That's all the story telling i will be doing - lets see some bullet points
- Got us a starting QB
- Cleaned house of old players (starting with TO)
- Re-evaluated our talent - and found diamonds in the rough (Stevie Johnson)
- Got the fans excited
- Started to build a franchise through the draft, with appropriate coaching moves, and filling holes in the free agency
Why do I trust Buddy Nix so much? This off season + Last Year's Draft. First -
This Offseason Who actually truly believed at the end of the season, that we would be going into next season with Mario Williams starting at DE, opposite of Mark Anderson? Never in my dreams did I think it was possible. Guess what? NIX GOT IT DONE! In Buddy Nix I trust - he said he was going to get us pass rushers and make a big splash. He did.
Second - lets quickly look at last year's draft
- Marcell Dareus (DT) - Starter and possible pro-bowler
- Aaron Williams (CB) - Starter - high potential
- Kelvin Sheppard (MLB) - Starter - the middle of our new 4-3 defense
- Da'Norris Searcy (DB) - Significant contributor and possibly a future starter at SS
Chris Hairson (OT) - Current starter, contributor, huge potential - Johnny White (RB) - Significant contributor, depth at RB
- Chris White (LB) - Special teams contributor (2FF) and LB depth
- Justin Rodgers (DB) - Special teams, and was important when we were thin at DB, good potential
Michael Jasper (G/NT) - The Phenom
So let me get this straight. We hit on the first 4 rounds with a starter? Are you kidding me? That is not a good draft, that is a GREAT draft.
Going into Thursday - I want all my fellow rumblings to join me in the attitude and mentality I will have in the draft. I will enjoy it. But regardless of who the pick will be - I fully trust Buddy Nix - and believe he knows exactly what he is doing. After last year's draft - and this offseason, I really see our team turning around. I really see a wonderful base being built of young, talented, hard working, team oriented players. Other franchises will look at the Bills in awe.
CONCLUSION - HOW DO I ENJOY THE DRAFT?
- At the end of the day I have one message, one mentality, one common theme, one attitude for all my fellow Rumblers going into the draft and into the future: In Buddy Nix We Trust
- Sit back and trust Buddy Nix - he will take care of our Bills
- Print out my consensus big board found here - Consensus Big Board - and follow along as picks are made
- Be excited about the picks we make - see the positives before the negatives - think about why the pick was made
- Converse with your buddies about the draft picks - what teams came out winners and losers
- Laugh at the Miami Dolphins and New York Jets as they try to fix the state of their franchises - and keep up with the Bills positive off season.
- Listen to the analysis. I would recommend watching NFL Network because Mike Mayock is the man and I love listening to his analysis. I can't stand listening to Kiper and McShay
- Think of a drinking game to play with your friends
- Take a look at two specific mock drafts. Greg Cossel's which is available on NFL.com and Mike Mayock's which has yet to be revealed. Also look at Mayock's top 100 players. Personally these are the two individuals I trust and read most concerning draft related material.
Well - that is all I got - I apologize for the long write up - but I promise you, it is worth the read. Happy Draft Day. And with all my emotion, GO BILLS - the best, truest, most loyal fans in the NFL.
-Moose
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Mike Mayock Top 100
Finally reveals his top 100 picks
Final Mock Draft (3rd, every team)
Please rec if you like what you see - and would like to discuss the situations through the day. I will respond and update through out the Day (Lazy Sundays).
My Fellow Rumblers - my 2012 NFL Draft can be found in the following link with all three rounds of every team - 2012 NFL Mock Draft AND my consensus big board can be found here - 2012 Consensus Big Board
So what happened?
- 1st - NO trades. I cannot predict trades EXCEPT the Patriots at 31 who clearly stated they will trade out. I reflected that in the MOCK
- 2nd - I took into account all the "rumblings" i have been hearing around the NFL. I also wanted to be a bit different - so the top 10 is probably something you won't see in any other mock draft
- The Buffalo Bills are down to a few players: Luke Kuechly, Mark Barron, Stephen Gilmore, Justin Blackmon, Matt Kalil, Dre Kirkpatrick, Cordy Glenn, Jonathan Martin. That is my thinking. So depending on who the BPA was when it came for me to choose the Bills pick it ended up being Justin Blackmon. That's right. But how? Why?
- Colts - Andrew Luck (QB) - Stanford
- Redskins - RG3 (QB) - Baylord
- Vikings - Morris Claiborne (CB) - LSU
Here is where things get weird. If I am the Vikings GM I take Kalil in a heart beat. Adam Schefter said he believes 20% the pick will be Matt Kalil. That leaves Blackmon and Claiborne. Looking at the division and given that Frazier has a defensive background - ill go with MC - Cleveland Browns - Trent Richardson (RB) - Alabama
TR is the best player. WR can be had later. I don't need to explain further - Buccaneers - Luke Kuechly (LB) - BC
Kalil is a possibility here - Bucs have a great OL. They have a huge need at LB. Luke is easily rated top 10 player in the draft. He will be a leader on a young, talented defense. - Rams - Matt Kalil (OT) - USC
Fletcher Cox is the rumor here - but the Rams CANNOT pass up on protecting Sam Bradford. I should mock Cox here - but there are DT's to be had at the end of the 1st and beginning of 2nd. - Jaguars - Stephen Gilmore (CB) - South Carolina
Jaguars love Gilmore, Gene Smith has a very specific type of player they want. WR class is deep. Blackmon has a few issues. Gilmore is the consensus #2 CB. - Dolphins - Ryan Tannehill (QB) - Texas AM
Won't explain - Panthers - Fletcher Cox (DT) - Mississippi St.
Best DT falls to the Panthers. - Bills - Justin Blackmon (WR) - Oklahoma St.
If Jaguars take Blackmon - Gilmore is the pick here - either way win win situation
HOW DID THE BILLS DO:
- Justin Blackmon (WR) - Oklahoma St.
With Gilmore and Kalil off the board - and Justin Blackmon falling to us - this was automatic. Honestly - I do believe Blackmon CAN fall to us on draft day. Kalil cannot. Blackmon MIGHT. None the less it is how I have predicted Thursday night to go. It all depends on who the - Jaguars will select Justin Blackmon and in that case we will select Stephen Gilmore. If neither Gilmore or Blackmon are available? Dre Kirkpatrick is the pick. - Bobbie Massie (OT) - Mississippi
I love Massie. He also fits the "mold" of what Chix look for in an offensive lineman. He is a bit raw but with a year of training can play at a high level whether on the right, or the left. Fills a massive need on the offensive line. The other possibility here was Trumaine Johnson, who was selected right before we got a chance to jump - Chase Minnifield (CB) - Virginia
At this point - Minnifield was the BPA and filled an area of need. I don't know too much about him, but like I said when I put the later rounds together it was based on the consensus big board.
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FINAL Mock Draft - 3 rds (Things are getting very interesting)
If you like what you see - please REC - so i can continue to here feedback, and give responses allowing for a discussion among everyone on MTD
Will be responding and updating through out the day
Rumors are spreading, things are changing - whats going to happen? In this mock I have put together all the rumors i have been hearing around the NFL, my opinions, and loosely based on my consensus big board. Furthermore, I have not guessed any trades EXCEPT #31 bc the New England Patriots clearly said they will be trading that pick - and I have them trading with the Cleveland Browns. So Here We go. And mind you - I really believe this is the closest I can personally predict will happen on Thursday.
- Colts - Andrew Luck (QB) - Stanford
- Redskins - RG3 (QB) - Baylord
- Vikings - Morris Claiborne (CB) - LSU
Here is where things get weird. If I am the Vikings GM I take Kalil in a heart beat. Adam Schefter said he believes 20% the pick will be Matt Kalil. That leaves Blackmon and Claiborne. Looking at the division and given that Frazier has a defensive background - ill go with MC - Cleveland Browns - Trent Richardson (RB) - Alabama
TR is the best player. WR can be had later. I don't need to explain further - Buccaneers - Luke Kuechly (LB) - BC
Kalil is a possibility here - Bucs have a great OL. They have a huge need at LB. Luke is easily rated top 10 player in the draft. He will be a leader on a young, talented defense. - Rams - Matt Kalil (OT) - USC
Fletcher Cox is the rumor here - but the Rams CANNOT pass up on protecting Sam Bradford. I should mock Cox here - but there are DT's to be had at the end of the 1st and beginning of 2nd. - Jaguars - Stephen Gilmore (CB) - South Carolina
Jaguars love Gilmore, Gene Smith has a very specific type of player they want. WR class is deep. Blackmon has a few issues. Gilmore is the consensus #2 CB. - Dolphins - Ryan Tannehill (QB) - Texas AM
Won't explain - Panthers - Fletcher Cox (DT) - Mississippi St.
Best DT falls to the Panthers. - Bills - Justin Blackmon (WR) - Oklahoma St.
If Jaguars take Blackmon - Gilmore is the pick here - either way win win situation - Chiefs - David DeCastro (G) - Stanford
Best G in the draft - and compared with Steve Hutchinson. Open holes for their RBs. - Seahawks - Melvin Ingram (DE) - South Carolina
Fill their need w best DE in the draft - Cardinals - Michael Floyd (WR) - Notre Dame
Another weapon - Cowboys - Mark Barron (SS) - Alabama
Cowboys love Barron, need secondary help. - Eagles - Michael Brockers (DT) - LSU
Brockers is rated highly - falls to the Eagles. DE is also possible. - Jets - Chandler Jones (DE/OLB) - Syracuse
I think Chandler Jones is the most talented and raw and biggest upside defensive lineman in the draft. He can be a 3-4 OLB, a 4-3 DE, or grow in and play 5 tech. He will be successful 2 yrs down the road. He is this years JPP. - Bengals - Dre Kirkpatrick (CB) - Alabama
CB help - Chargers - Riley Reiff (OT) - Iowa
Still need depth at offensive line and talent - Bears - Courtney Upshaw (DE) - Alabama
Upshaw I believe might be better suited for 4-3 DE as many people have said. HE is great work ethic and will fit nicely with what the Bears Defensive line does. - Titans - Nick Perry (DE) - USC
Fast speed 4-3 DE to bring pressure to the line - Bengals - Cordy Glenn (OT/OG) - Georgia
Need a guard - also BPA - also versatile to play OT. - Browns - Kendall Wright (WR) - Baylor
Browns love Wright. Browns also need a WR. - Lions - Jon Martin (OT) - Stanford
Finally a true LT to protect Stafford - Steelers - Dontari Poe (NT) - Memphis
Learn behind Hampton - possibly become elite - Broncos - Jerel Worthy (DT) - Michigan St.
This is a really tough pick for me. Before I put Coby Fleener. Than I wanted to change it to Alson. Then I was even thinking Janoris Jenkins. At the end of the day i went with a clean inside lineman. I still think the Broncos will get Manning more weapons. Jenkins makes sense to me because we saw what the Ravens did with Jimmy Smith. Jenkins is ultra athletic and needs the right environment to succeed. - Texans - Stephen Hill (WR) - Georgia Tech
No explanation. - Patriots - Whitney Mercilus (DE/OLB) - Illinois
Patriots have a hybrid type defensive scheme. Mercilus can play with 3-4 OLB and 4-3 DE. - Packers - Shea McClellin (OLB) - Boise St.
Packers love Shea - and they also need a rush LB across from Matthews. - Ravens - Donta Hightower (ILB) - Alabama
Ray Lewis successor - 49ers - Coby Fleener (TE) - Stanford
Haurbaugh is not done getting weapons for this offense. He knows Fleener inside out - having worked with him in Stanford. This is not a huge need - but this is the BPA and someone who can help in offense. We have seen the impact of ultra athletic TEs. - Browns - TRADE w Patriots - Brandon Weedon (QB) - Oklahoma St.
Weedon can start right away - in my opinion. I think he is v. good and v. mature. Even if the Browns originally want McCoy to start - Weeden could push for the starting job. - Giants - Quinton Coples (DT) - UNC
Giants fans always argue about the pick i give them. I gave the Giants an OT a few times. I love Bobby Massie, and Mike Adams. But Adams has off field issues. RB is the other thought - Doug Martin. But i learned that the GM will take the "BPA" and in this case it could be Coples. Coples has slipped bc of his work ethic and his film at times has been below average. But JPP and the rest of the team can bring out the best in him.
IF I had to predict a trade - the following situations come to mind:
- The Jets trade up with the Jaguars, Panthers, or Bills for Melvin Ingram
- The Chiefs bypass the Dolphins and trade up with the Jaguars for Ryan Tannhill
- The Lions make a big trade to move up in the top 10 with the Panthers, Jaguars or Bills to draft Stephen Gilmore or Dre Kirkpatrick.
- Let me make this abundantly clear - the Buffalo Bills WILL NOT MOVE UP - because I know a lot of people are predicting that - WILL NOT HAPPEN.
- The Eagles moving up for some player they really like. Could be Fletcher Cox, Melvin Ingram, or Kueckly. Or they could bypass the Cowboys to take Mark Barron.
- The Rams are sitting pretty with two high 2nd round picks. If they really like a player at the bottom of the 1st, they could trade the 2nd of their 2nd rounders and possibly a 3rd or 4th to move into the early part of the 1st to select that player. It could be a OT, WR, DT, or OLB.
- The Colts have so many needs - I would not be surprised if they trade out of their 2nd round pick to acquire more picks.
ROUND 2 & 3 are based on my consensus big board and team needs. Picked player according to BPA and if the players around that area fill a need.
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Round 2 |
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Devon Still (DT) - Penn St. (6'5'' 303lb, 5.00, 26, 33.25) |
St. Louis Rams |
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Peter Konz (C.) - Wisconsin (6'5'' 314lb, 18, 33) |
Indianapolis Colts |
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Mike Adams (OT) - Ohio St. (6'7'' 323lb, 34") |
Minnesota Vikings |
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Doug Martin (RB) - Boise St. (5'9'' 223, 4.47) |
Tampa Bay Bucs |
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Janoris Jenkins (CB) - North Alabama (5'10'' 193lb, 4.44) |
New England Patriots (From Browns) |
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Andre Branch (DE) - Clemson (6'4'' 259lb, 4.62, 34inch) |
Jacksonville Jaguars |
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Alshon Jeffery (WR) - South Carolina (6'3'' 216lb, 4.48) |
St. Louis Rams |
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Trumaine Johnson (CB) - Montana (6'2'' 204lb, 4.5) |
Carolina Panthers |
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Bobby Massie (OT) - Mississippi (6'6'' 316lb, 5.23, 22, 35'') |
Buffalo Bills |
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Rueben Randle (WR) - LSU (6'3'' 210lb, 4.38) |
Miami Dolphins |
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Lavonte David (OLB) - Nebraska (6'1'' 233lb) |
Seattle Seahawks |
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Alameda Ta'amu (DT) - Washington (6'3'' 348lb) |
Kansas City Chiefs |
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Kevin Zeitler (G) - Wisconsin (6'4'' 314lb, 5.39, 32, 32.75") |
Dallas Cowboys |
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Harrison Smith (SS) - Notre Dame (6'2'' 213lb) |
Philadelphia Eagles |
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Mohamed Sanu (WR) - Rutgers (6'2'' 211lb, 4.67) |
New York Jets |
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Kendall Reyes (DT) - Connecticut (6'4'' 300lb) |
New England Patriots |
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Vinny Curry (DE/OLB) - Marshall (6'3'' 266lb, 4.85, 32.75) |
San Diego Chargers |
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Kelechi Osemele (OT/OG) - Iowa St. (6'6'' 333lb, 5.36, 32, 35.85") |
Chicago Bears |
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Zach Brown (OLB) - UNC (6'1'' 236lb) |
Philadelphia Eagles |
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Jayron Hosley (CB) - Virginia Tech (5'10'' 178lb, 4.38) |
Tennessee Titans |
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Lamar Miller (RB) - Miami (5'11'' 212lb, 4.38) |
Cincinnati Bengals |
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Josh Robinson (CB) - Central Florida |
Detroit Lions |
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Mitchell Schwartz (OT) - California (6'5'' 318lb, 5.45, 23, 33.5") |
Atlanta Falcons |
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Amini Silatolu (OG) - Midwestern St. (6'4'' 311, 5.43, 28, 33") |
Pittsburgh Steelers |
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Jamell Fleming (CB) - Oklahoma (5'11'' 206lb) |
Denver Broncos |
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Brandon Thompson (DT) - Clemson (6'2'' 314lb, 35, 33.5) |
Houston Texans |
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Jared Crick (DE) - Nebraska (6'4'' 280lb, 4.94, 32") |
New Orleans Saints |
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Billy Winn (DE) - Boise St. (6'4'' 294lb, 4.95, 24, 32.5") |
Green Bay Packers |
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Brandon Brooks (OG) - Miami Ohio (6'5'' 346lb, 4.98, 36, 33.5") |
Baltimore Ravens |
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Ronnell Lewis (OLB) - Oklahoma (6'2'' 244lb) |
San Francisco 49ers |
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Zebrie Sanders (OT) - Florida St. (6'6'' 320lb, 5.41, 28, 35") |
New England Patriots |
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David Wilson (RB) - Virginia Tech (5'10'' 206lb, 4.4) |
New York Giants |
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ROUND 3 |
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Josh Chapman (NT) - Alabama (6'1'' 320lb) |
Indianapolis Colts |
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Bobby Wagner (OLB) - Utah St. (6'0'' 241lb) |
St. Louis Rams |
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Juron Criner (WR) - Arizona (6'3'' 224lb, 4.60) |
Minnesota Vikings |
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Jeff Allen (OT) - Illinois (6'4'' 307lb, 5.28, 26, 33.5") |
Cleveland Browns |
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Brandon Boykin (CB) - Georgia (5'10'' 182lb) |
Tampa Bay Bucs |
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Brandon Washington (G) - Miami (6'3" 320lb, 5.25, 28, 33") |
Washington Redskins |
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Chris Givens (WR) - Wake Forest (5'11'' 198lb, 4.41) |
Jacksonville Jaguars |
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Chase Minnifield (CB) - Virginia (5'10'' 183lb) |
Buffalo Bills |
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Dwayne Allen (TE) - Clemson (6'3'' 255lb) |
Miami Dolphins |
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Donald Stephenson (OT) - Oklahoma |
Miami Dolphins |
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Mychal Kendricks (LB) - California |
Kansas City Chiefs |
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Brock Osweiler (QB) - Arizona St. |
Seattle Seahawks |
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Alfonzo Dennard (CB) - Nebraska (5'10'' 204lb, 4.51) |
Philadelphia Eagles |
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Chris Polk (RB) - Washington (5'11'' 215lb, 4.46) |
New York Jets |
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George Iloka (SS) - Boise St. |
San Diego Chargers |
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Casey Hayward (CB) - Vanderbilt |
Chicago Bears |
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Bruce Irvin (OLB) - West Virginia |
Arizona Cardinals |
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LaMichael James (RB) - Oregon (5'8'' 194lb, 4.37) |
Dalllas Cowboys |
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Ben Jones (C.) - Georgia |
Tennessee Titans |
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Sean Spence (OLB) - Miami |
Cincinnati Bengals |
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Orson Charles (TE) - Georgia (6'2'' 251, 4.7, 35, 32.5) |
Atlanta Falcons |
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Isaiah Pead (RB) - Cincinnati |
Detroit Lions |
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Bernard Pierce (RB) - Temple |
Pittsburgh Steelers |
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Marvin Jones (WR) - California (6'2'' 200lb, 4.46) |
Denver Broncos |
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Matt McCants (OT) - UAB |
Houston Texans |
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Joe Adams (WR/KR) - Arkansas (5'11'' 180lb, 4.55) |
New Orleans Saints |
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Tyrone Crawford (DE) - Boise St. |
Green Bay Packers |
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Markelle Martin (FS) - Oklahoma St. |
Baltimore Ravens |
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James Brown (OG) - Troy |
San Francisco 49ers |
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Trevin Wade (CB) - Arizona |
New England Patriots |
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Brandon Mosley (OT) - Auburn |
New York Giants |
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Cam Johnson (DE) - Virginia (6'3'' 268lb) |
Oakland Raiders (Compensatory) |
Consensus Positional Rankings
Same Concept as my big board - which is almost updated - I apologize for taking so long to update guys as the updates take FOREVER and time is always of essence in anyones life.
REC if you wish
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QB |
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Andrew Luck (QB) - Stanford - (6'4'' 234lb) |
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Robert Griffin III (QB) - Baylor - (6'2'' 218lb) |
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Ryan Tannehill (QB) - Texas A&M (6'4'' 221lb) |
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Brandon Weeden (QB) - Oklahoma St. (6'4'' 221lb) |
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Brock Osweiler (QB) - Arizona St. |
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Kirk Cousins (QB) - Michigan St. |
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Nick Foles (QB) - Arizona |
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Russell Wilson (QB) - Wisconsin |
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Ryan Lindley (QB) - San Diego St. |
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BJ Coleman (QB) - Tennesse Chattanooga |
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Aaron Corp (QB) - Richmond |
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Austin Davis (QB) - Southern Mississippi |
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Kellen Moore (QB) - Boise St. |
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RB |
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Trent Richardson (RB) - Alabama (5'11'' 224lb) |
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Doug Martin (RB) - Boise St. (5'9'' 223, 4.47) |
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Lamar Miller (RB) - Miami (5'11'' 212lb, 4.38) |
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David Wilson (RB) - Virginia Tech (5'10'' 206lb, 4.4) |
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Chris Polk (RB) - Washington (5'11'' 215lb, 4.46) |
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LaMichael James (RB) - Oregon (5'8'' 194lb, 4.37) |
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Isaiah Pead (RB) - Cincinnati |
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Bernard Pierce (RB) - Temple |
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Ronnie Hillman (RB) - San Diego St. |
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Robert Turbin (RB) - Utah St. |
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Chris Rainey (RB) - Florida |
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Cyrus Gray (RB) - Texas AM |
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Vick Ballard (RB) - Mississippi St. |
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Edwin Baker (RB) - Michigan St. |
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Tauren Poole (RB) - Tennessee |
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Dan Herron (RB) - Ohio St. |
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Marc Tyler (RB) - USC |
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Michael Smith (RB) - Utah St. |
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Terrance Ganaway (RB) - Baylor |
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Davin Meggett (RB) - Maryland |
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Bobby Rainey (RB) - Western Kentucky |
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Brandon Bolden (RB) - Mississippi |
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Chad Diehl (RB) - Clemson |
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WR |
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Justin Blackmon (WR) - Oklahoma St. (6'1'' 211lb) |
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Michael Floyd (WR) - Notre Dame (6'3'' 220lb, 4.47) |
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Kendall Wright (WR) - Baylor (5'10'' 196lb, 4.41) |
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Stephen Hill (WR) - Georgia Tech (6'4'' 215lb, 4.36) |
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Alshon Jeffery (WR) - South Carolina (6'3'' 216lb, 4.48) |
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Rueben Randle (WR) - LSU (6'3'' 210lb, 4.38) |
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Mohamed Sanu (WR) - Rutgers (6'2'' 211lb, 4.67) |
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Juron Criner (WR) - Arizona (6'3'' 224lb, 4.60) |
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Chris Givens (WR) - Wake Forest (5'11'' 198lb, 4.41) |
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Joe Adams (WR/KR) - Arkansas (5'11'' 180lb, 4.55) |
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Brian Quick (WR) - Appalachian St. (6'4" 220lb, 4.55) |
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Marvin Jones (WR) - California (6'2'' 200lb, 4.46) |
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Ryan Broyles (WR) - Oklahoma |
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Jarius Wright (WR) - (5'10'' 176lb) |
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Nick Toon (WR) - Wisconsin (6'2'' 215lb, 4.54) |
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AJ Jenkins (WR) - Illinois (6'0'' 190lb, 4.39) |
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Devon Wylie (WR) - Fresno St. |
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Rishard Matthews (WR) - Nevada |
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TY Hilton (WR) - Florida International (5'10'' 183lb) |
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Tommy Streeter (WR) - Miami (6'5'' 220lb, 4.40) |
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Marvin McNutt (WR) - Iowa (6'3'' 216lb, 4.54) |
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Dwight Jones (WR) - UNC |
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Greg Childs (WR) - Arkansas (6'3'' 219lb, 4.39) |
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BJ Cunningham (WR) - Michigan St. (6'2'' 215lb, 4.59) |
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DeVier Posey (WR) - Ohio St. |
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Jeff Fuller (WR) - Texas AM (6'4'' 223lb, 4.6) |
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T.J. Graham (WR) - NC St. (5'11'' 182lb) |
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Eric Page (WR) - Toledo |
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Danny Coale (WR) - Virginia Tech |
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Lance Lewis (WR) - East Carolina (6'3'' 209lb) |
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Tim Benford (WR) - Tennessee Tech |
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Gerell Robinson (WR) - Arizona St. |
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TE |
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Coby Fleener (TE) - Stanford (6'6'' 247lb) |
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Dwayne Allen (TE) - Clemson (6'3'' 255lb) |
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Orson Charles (TE) - Georgia (6'2'' 251, 4.7, 35, 32.5) |
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Ladarius Green (TE) - La-Lafayette |
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Michael Egnew (TE) - Missouri |
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Deangelo Peterson (TE) - Louisiana St. |
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George Bryan (TE) - North Carolina St. |
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Taylor Thompson (TE) - Southern Methodist |
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James Hanna (TE) - Oklahoma |
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OT |
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Matt Kalil (OT) - USC - (6'7'' 306lb, 4.99, 30, 34.25) |
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Riley Reiff (OT) - Iowa (6'6'' 313lb, 5.23, 23, 33.25) |
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Cordy Glenn (OT) - Georgia (6'5'' 345lb, 5.15, 31, 35.75) |
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Jonathan Martin (OT) - Stanford (6'5'' 312lb, 34inch) |
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Mike Adams (OT) - Ohio St. (6'7'' 323lb, 34") |
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Bobby Massie (OT) - Mississippi (6'6'' 316lb, 5.23, 22, 35'') |
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Kelechi Osemele (OT/OG) - Iowa St. (6'6'' 333lb, 5.36, 32, 35.85") |
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Mitchell Schwartz (OT) - California (6'5'' 318lb, 5.45, 23, 33.5") |
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Zebrie Sanders (OT) - Florida St. (6'6'' 320lb, 5.41, 28, 35") |
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Jeff Allen (OT) - Illinois (6'4'' 307lb, 5.28, 26, 33.5") |
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Donald Stephenson (OT) - Oklahoma |
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Matt McCants (OT) - UAB |
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Brandon Mosley (OT) - Auburn |
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Tony Bergstrom (OT) - Utah |
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Nate Potter (OT) - Boise St. |
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Andrew Datko (OT) - Florida State |
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James Carmon (OT) - Mississippi St. |
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Jarvis Jones (OT) - Oklahoma |
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Tom Compton (OT) - South Dakota |
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Kyle Nunn (OT) - South Carolina |
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Matt Reynolds (OT) - BYU |
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Levy Adcock (OT) - Oklahoma St. |
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Markus Zusevics (OT) - Iowa |
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OG |
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David DeCastro (G) - Stanford (6'5'' 316lb, 5.43, 34, 32.4) |
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Cordy Glenn (OT) - Georgia (6'5'' 345lb, 5.15, 31, 35.75) |
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Kevin Zeitler (G) - Wisconsin (6'4'' 314lb, 5.39, 32, 32.75") |
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Amini Silatolu (OG) - Midwestern St. (6'4'' 311, 5.43, 28, 33") |
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Kelechi Osemele (OT/OG) - Iowa St. (6'6'' 333lb, 5.36, 32, 35.85") |
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Brandon Brooks (OG) - Miami Ohio (6'5'' 346lb, 4.98, 36, 33.5") |
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Brandon Washington (G) - Miami (6'3" 320lb, 5.25, 28, 33") |
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James Brown (OG) - Troy |
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Lucas Nix (OG) - Pittsburgh |
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Josh LeRibeus (OG) - Southern Methodist |
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Ryan Miller (G) - Colorado |
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Senio Kelemete (OG) - Washington |
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Joe Looney (OG) - Wake Forest |
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Derek Dennis (OG) - Temple |
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OC |
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Peter Konz (C.) - Wisconsin (6'5'' 314lb, 18, 33) |
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Ben Jones (C.) - Georgia |
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Philip Blake (OC) - Baylor |
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Michael Brewster (C.) - Ohio St. |
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David Molk (OC) - Michigan |
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DT |
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Fletcher Cox (DT) - Mississippi St. (6'4'' 298lb, 4.79, 26, 34.5) |
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Michael Brockers (DT) - LSU (6'5'' 322lb, 5.1, 19, 35) |
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Dontari Poe (DT) - Memphis (6'4'' 346, 4.87, 44, 32) |
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Devon Still (DT) - Penn St. (6'5'' 303lb, 5.00, 26, 33.25) |
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Jerel Worthy (DT) - Michigan St. (6'2'' 308lb, 4.97, 33inch) |
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Brandon Thompson (DT) - Clemson (6'2'' 314lb, 35, 33.5) |
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Kendall Reyes (DT) - Connecticut (6'4'' 300lb) |
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Alameda Ta'amu (DT) - Washington (6'3'' 348lb) |
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Josh Chapman (NT) - Alabama (6'1'' 320lb) |
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Mike Martin (DT) - Michigan |
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Derek Wolfe (DT/DE) - Cincinnati (6'5'' 295lb, 33, 33.25) |
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Mike Daniels (DT) - Iowa |
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Marcus Forston (DT) - Miami Fl. |
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DaJohn Harris (DT) - USC |
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Dominique Hamilton (DT) - Missouri |
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Kheeston Randall (DT) - Texas |
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Hebron Fangupo (DT) - BYU |
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Tydreke Powell (DT) - North Carolina |
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Akiem Hicks (DT) - University of Regina |
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Travian Robertson (DT) - South Carolina |
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NT |
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Dontari Poe (DT) - Memphis (6'4'' 346, 4.87, 44, 32) |
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Alameda Ta'amu (DT) - Washington (6'3'' 348lb) |
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Josh Chapman (NT) - Alabama (6'1'' 320lb) |
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4-3 DE |
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Melvin Ingram (DE/OLB) - South Carolina (6'1'' 264lb, 4.66, 28, 31.5) |
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Quinton Coples (DE) - UNC (6'6'' 281lb, 4.72, 25, 33.25) |
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Courtney Upshaw (DE/OLB) - Alabama (6'2'' 272lb, 22, 32) |
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Nick Perry (DE/OLB) - USC (6'3'' 271lb, 4.50, 35, 33) |
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Whitney Mercilus (DE) - Illinois (6'4'' 261lb, 4.63, 27, 33.8) |
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Andre Branch (DE) - Clemson (6'4'' 259lb, 4.62, 34inch) |
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Chandler Jones (DE) - Syracuse (6'5'' 266lb, 4.85, 22, 35.5) |
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Vinny Curry (DE/OLB) - Marshall (6'3'' 266lb, 4.85, 32.75) |
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Jared Crick (DE) - Nebraska (6'4'' 280lb, 4.94, 32") |
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Billy Winn (DE) - Boise St. (6'4'' 294lb, 4.95, 24, 32.5") |
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Tyrone Crawford (DE) - Boise St. |
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Cam Johnson (DE) - Virginia (6'3'' 268lb) |
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Malik Jackson (DE) - Tennessee (6'5'' 270lb) |
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Trevor Guyton (DE) - California |
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Jack Crawford (DE) - Penn St. (6'5'' 273lb) |
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Jake Bequette (DE) - Arkansas |
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Cordarro Law (DE) - Southern Miss |
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Jacquies Smith (DE) - Missouri |
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Frank Alexander (DE) - Oklahoma |
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3-4 OLB |
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Melvin Ingram (DE/OLB) - South Carolina (6'1'' 264lb, 4.66, 28, 31.5) |
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Courtney Upshaw (DE/OLB) - Alabama (6'2'' 272lb, 22, 32) |
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Whitney Mercilus (DE) - Illinois (6'4'' 261lb, 4.63, 27, 33.8) |
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Nick Perry (DE/OLB) - USC (6'3'' 271lb, 4.50, 35, 33) |
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Shea McClellin (OLB) - Nebraska (6'3'' 260lb, 4.62, 19, 31.5") |
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Vinny Curry (DE/OLB) - Marshall (6'3'' 266lb, 4.85, 32.75) |
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Ronnell Lewis (OLB) - Oklahoma (6'2'' 244lb) |
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Andre Branch (DE) - Clemson (6'4'' 259lb, 4.62, 34inch) |
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5 Tech |
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Fletcher Cox (DT) - Mississippi St. (6'4'' 298lb, 4.79, 26, 34.5) |
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Michael Brockers (DT) - LSU (6'5'' 322lb, 5.1, 19, 35) |
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Devon Still (DT) - Penn St. (6'5'' 303lb, 5.00, 26, 33.25) |
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Kendall Reyes (DT) - Connecticut (6'4'' 300lb) |
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Quinton Coples (DE) - UNC (6'6'' 281lb, 4.72, 25, 33.25) |
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Chandler Jones (DE) - Syracuse (6'5'' 266lb, 4.85, 22, 35.5) |
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Jerel Worthy (DT) - Michigan St. (6'2'' 308lb, 4.97, 33inch) |
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Jared Crick (DE) - Nebraska (6'4'' 280lb, 4.94, 32") |
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Billy Winn (DE) - Boise St. (6'4'' 294lb, 4.95, 24, 32.5") |
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Derek Wolfe (DT/DE) - Cincinnati (6'5'' 295lb, 33, 33.25) |
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4-3 OLB |
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Lavonte David (OLB) - Nebraska (6'1'' 233lb) |
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Zach Brown (OLB) - UNC (6'1'' 236lb) |
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Ronnell Lewis (OLB) - Oklahoma (6'2'' 244lb) |
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ILB |
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Luke Kuechley (ILB) - BC (6'3'' 242lb, 4.50, 27, 31) |
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Donta Hightower (ILB) - Alabama (6'2'' 265lb) |
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Mychal Kendricks (LB) - California |
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Bobby Wagner (LB) - Utah St. (6'0'' 241lb) |
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Audie Cole (LB) - North Carolina St. |
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Keenan Robinson (LB) - Texas |
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James Michael Johnson (ILB) - Nevada |
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Vontaze Burfict (ILB) - Arizona St. |
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Tank Carder (ILB) - TCU |
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OLB |
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Zach Brown (OLB) - UNC (6'1'' 236lb) |
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Lavonte David (OLB) - Nebraska (6'1'' 233lb) |
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Ronnell Lewis (OLB) - Oklahoma (6'2'' 244lb) |
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Shea McClellin (OLB) - Nebraska (6'3'' 260lb, 4.62, 19, 31.5") |
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Bobby Wagner (OLB) - Utah St. (6'0'' 241lb) |
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Bruce Irvin (OLB) - West Virginia |
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Mychal Kendricks (LB) - California |
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Sean Spence (OLB) - Miami |
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Demario Davis (OLB) - Arkansas St. |
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Nigel Bradham (OLB) - Florida St. |
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Travis Lewis (OLB) - Oklahoma |
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Josh Kaddu (OLB) - Oregon |
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Jonathan Massaquoi (OLB/DE) - Troy |
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Olivier Vernon (DE/OLB) - Miami (6'4'' 265lb) |
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Terrell Manning (OLB) - North Carolina St. |
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Kyle Wilber (OLB) - Wake Forest |
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Brett Roy (OLB) - Nevada (6'4'' 280lb) |
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Emmanuel Acho (OLB) - Texas |
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Jerry Franklin (OLB) - Arkansas |
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Donte Paige-Moss (DE) - North Carolina (6'4'' 260lb) |
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Julian Miller (DE/OLB) - West Virginia (6'4'' 268lb) |
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CB |
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Morris Claiborne (CB) - LSU (5'11'' 188lb, 4.40) |
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Dre Kirkpatrick (CB) - Alabama (6'2'' 186lb, 4.43) |
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Janoris Jenkins (CB) - North Alabama (5'10'' 193lb, 4.44) |
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Stephon Gilmore (CB) South Carolina (6'0'' 190lb, 4.44) |
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Alfonzo Dennard (CB) - Nebraska (5'10'' 204lb, 4.51) |
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Brandon Boykin (CB) - Georgia (5'10'' 182lb) |
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Trumaine Johnson (CB) - Montana (6'2'' 204lb, 4.5) |
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Jayron Hosley (CB) - Virginia Tech (5'10'' 178lb, 4.38) |
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Jamell Fleming (CB) - Oklahoma (5'11'' 206lb) |
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Josh Robinson (CB) - Central Florida |
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Casey Hayward (CB) - Vanderbilt |
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Chase Minnifield (CB) - Virginia (5'10'' 183lb) |
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Trevin Wade (CB) - Arizona |
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Dwight Bentley (CB) - LA-Lafayette |
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Josh Norman (CB) - Coast Carolina |
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Leonard Johnson (CB) - Iowa St. (5'10'' 196lb) |
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Coryell Judie (CB) - Texas AM |
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DeQuan Menzie (CB) - Alabama |
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Ryan Steed (CB) - Furman |
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Omar Bolden (CB) - Arizona St. |
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Cliff Harris (CB) - Oregon |
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Shaun Prater (CB) - Iowa |
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Asa Jackson (CB) - (5'10'' 191lb) |
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Robert Blanton (CB) - Notre Dame |
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Donnie Fletcher (CB) - BC |
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Micah Pellerin (CB) - Hampton |
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Mark Barron (SS) - Alabama (6'1'' 213lb, 33.5) |
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Harrison Smith (SS) - Notre Dame (6'2'' 213lb) |
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Trumaine Johnson (CB/FS) - Montana (6'2'' 204lb, 4.5) |
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George Iloka (SS) - Boise St. |
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Markelle Martin (FS/SS) - Oklahoma St. |
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Brandon Taylor (FS) - LSU |
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Trenton Robinson (FS) - Michigan St. |
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Antonio Allen (SS) - South Carolina |
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Aaron Henry (FS) - Wisconsin |
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Janzen Jackson (FS) - McNeese St. |
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Kelcie McCray (SS) - Arkansas St. |
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Winston Guy Jr. (S) - Kentucky |
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Phillip Thomas (FS) - Syracuse |
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Trades! Who is moving up? Who is moving down? What players are for sale? (Update 3:30pm)
Lets take a look at who is moving around - and what we are hearing around the NFL. I posted a similar article a while ago - but now we have a much better idea of what teams are planning to do. Mind you - these are things I have heard, think, or read.
WHO WANTS TO MOVE UP?
- I have heard/read the Chiefs might be interested in moving up for Ryan Tannehill (QB) - Texas AM
- I have heard the Cowboys could move up for Mark Barron (S) - Alabama
- I have heard the Eagles are interested in moving up for a variety of players the most likely being Fletcher Cox (DT) - Mississippi St.......(Other names thrown around are Mark Barron, Stephen Gilmore, Ryan Tannehill)
- I have heard Jets are interested in moving up for Melvin Ingram (DE/OLB) - South Carolina being the favorite to fill the void at pass rusher
- Read today that Rams are interested in moving up to #4 to secure a player. Hearing a few separate names including Fletcher Cox
WHO WANTS TO MOVE DOWN?
- I suppose everyone always wants to move down to acquire more picks BUT
- Minnesota Vikings have said they want to move down and acquire more picks but more so want a blockbuster deal like the Rams got. Potential partners are a team that really wants Trent Richardson, Matt Kalil, Justin Blackmon, or Ryan Tannehill.
- Cleveland Browns are not sure what they want to do, but have heard they are interested in moving down.
- The Jacksonville Jaguars are apparently "desperate" to move out of the 7th pick. Potential partners are all the teams that are mentioned above.
- The Buffalo Bills would like to move down and acquire an additional pick - if they don't like anyone at 10. Potential partners are all the teams mentioned above. However at the 10th pick - some player that a team really likes drops - and wish to move up to acquire that player.
- The Patriots have stated they will keep their 27th pick but will trade away their 31st pick. The 31st pick could be any player that entices a team - but historically seams to be teams that move back into the bottom of the first to grab a QB. The Browns could be a trading partner to acquire Brandon Weeden, if they don't do so with their 2nd of 1st round picks.
WHO IS FOR SALE?
- The Eagles are shopping Asante Samuel. What is he worth? Who is interested? He is 31 and is still a starting caliber CB in the NFL
- The Tampa Bay Bucs are shopping Aqib Talib. What is he worth? Who is interested? He has off field issues, and that has significantly dropped the stock of Jenkins. Why would anyone be interested in Talib?
- Apparently no one has approached the Steelers concerning Mike Wallace - probably considering how much money he wants
- Was made aware that the Giants might be interested in shopping Osi Umenyiora (DE). Who do you think would be interested? What is he worth?
Thoughts? What else is the word around the NFL? Who else is for sale? What other teams are interested in moving?
T-Minus 7 days my fellow mockers -Moose
T-Minus 10 Days till Draft Day - What's going on with the Bills..... (Updated 6:00pm 4/17)
A FEW UPDATES:
Peter King's mock came out - giving the Bills Michael Floyd, but he thinks the Bills should pick Mark Barron. To quote "Buffalo will break the Cardinals' hearts by stealing Floyd to pair with Stevie Johnson and give quarterback Ryan Fitzpatrick a true second weapon and bona fide deep threat. But I'd rather have the kind of enforcer in the secondary that so many teams covet. The 6'1", 213-pound Barron is a player whom multiple teams will try to trade up to get. "
The two most popular picks, and two most mocked players to the Bills are Floyd and Reiff - yet it appears that neither player has visited with the Bills. What does this mean? According to Brian, Dareus did visit the Bills. However there are mixed reports on Spiller - he was scheduled to visit but didn't actually visit with the Bills. For all we know they might have secretly visited. How much this plays into the draft - IDK - but we will find out soon.
MAIN STORY
I am almost happy the draft is almost here - all these mocks, and arguments, and waiting is driving me nuts. I just want the season to start so we can start watching Mario Williams get sacks, Fitz throw TD passes to Stevie Johnson, and Freddy/Spiller running all over the field. With that being said I'll give my last little draft 2 cents.
Think you guys will enjoy the read
Here is the link to my consensus big board - so you can get an idea of what players fall where - 2012 NFL Draft Big Board - and here is a link to my most recent mock 2012 NFL Mock Draft (which i plan to update on the weekend).
What to do at #10?
Who wont be there? As the draft approaches it is clear there are 6 elite players that will be gone before 10. Those players are Andrew Luck, RGIII, Morris Claiborne, Trent Richardson, Matt Kalil, and Justin Blackmon.
Looking at the first 9 picks
- Colts - Andrew Luck (QB)
Really nothing here to think about. - Redskins - RGIII (QB)
Really nothing here to think about. - Minnesota Vikings - ??? - Morris Claiborne (CB) - LSU
What on earth are the Minnesota Vikings thinking? Could they possibly skip on Matt Kalil? Are they blowing a smoke screen? Are they hoping for a monster trade deal similar to the one's the Rams and Colts received? Are they toying with the Rams for them to move up? Who knows - none of us. We have no idea what is going to happen. Adam Schefter is almost convinced that the Vikings will skip on Matt Kalil and pick Justin Blackmon. Others think its Morris Claiborne.
I think the Vikings would be absolutely foolish to pass on Matt Kalil. He is a franchise LT. He will protect Ponder's blindside for the next 10 years. Secondly - there is a deep WR class so the Vikings can always get a WR in the 2nd+ rounds. Claiborne and Blackmon are both special players. Given the passing nature of the league all three picks are at play. But I don't even think the Vikings should question this. So here is the deal. Last year around this time - no one thought the Broncos would go after Von Miller. But leading into the draft the understanding became around the NFL that the Broncos will take Von Miller - clearly that has paid off. This year - the Vikings will take Morris Claiborne. Why? Because they have to defend Rodgers, Stafford, and Cutler. Their secondary is a mess. Frazier is a former defensive coordinator. Looks like Ponder will have to survive another year with out a weapon and protection.. - Cleveland Brown - Justin Blackmon (WR) - Oklahoma St.
This pick is up for sale for someone who wants the remaining elite players on the Board. What teams have the fire power to move up? That would be the Bengals, Eagles, and Patriots. The players to target would be Kalil, Tannehill and Richardson. Bengals could target Richardson, or Kalil. Eagles don't need to invest in either but could be interested in Tannehill. The Patriots don't need Tannhill, nor Richardson - but could target a guy like Kalil. For now I'll leave the Browns here. Secondly - there are a few things going on in the front office. Some people love Blackmon, some people love Trent Richardson. Regardless of the fact that Richardson is the best player available, the NFL is a passing league, and the Browns lack a #1 receiver - regardless of who plays QB (and yes I do believe they will draft one in the first round this year) - Tampa Bay Buccaneers - Trent Richardson (RB) - Bama
This is another really tough pick for me. The new HC is obsessed with Trent Richardson - and LaGarrete Blount has been causing issues. I love Blount but he is no in means an elite player. Richardson could improve this offense from day one. What I love about Richardson is how balanced he is. He can pass block, run between the tackles, run outside the tackles, take it the distance, catching coming out of the backfield. AKA he does it all. I think they are happy with Penn at LT - and go with Richardson - St. Louis Rams - Matt Kalil (LT)
I am not even going to explain this pick - Jacksonville Jaguars - Stephen Gilmore (CB) - South Carolina
In my opinion the Jaguars are the toughest team to mock in the top 10. Gene Smith has a very particular player he seeks. I am down to two prospects. Stephen Gilmore (who the Jaguars are obsessed with) and Melvin Ingram. Ingram can solve the pass rush needs that the Jaguars have been seeking for quite sometime. He is a versatile player with great upside. He can play inside, outside, and has shown production at the college level. But there is also a big need at CB. And Gilmore fits the Gene Smith bill. People will say he is being "over-drafted" - but if you like a player and think he is right for the organization and performs as such - I do not necessarily believe its an over-draft. Remember Tyson Alualu. - Miami Dolphins - Ryan Tannehill (QB) - Texas AM
The Dolphins are still trying to find a franchise QB. The Miami fanbase will be furious with the pick because they will think Tannehill is not their guy. They missed out on Manning, and Matt Flynn. But I really like Tannehill. And I think he has monster upside. The Dolphins don't need to start him - Garrard and Moore are their to hold ship as he develops. And the connection with Mike McCarthy cannot be ignored. - Carolina Panthers - Fletcher Cox (DT) - Mississippi St
I don't think there is too much to debate here. There are two things the Panthers could do. They could select Cox, or they could go with Kirkpatrick for the secondary. Cox has become the consensus top DT in the draft. He is a "safe" prospect. He is the penetrating, quick footed type of DT that the Panthers desperately need to build their defensive line around.
What do the Buffalo Bills do at 10? Well first lets start with who the options are (In order of how they are presented on the consensus big board)
- Melvin Ingram (DE) - South Carolina
Just because we loaded up at the defensive line position in the off season, doesn't mean the front office won't take another defensive lineman - especially if they think he is the BPA. Remember when they took CJ Spiller? He was the BPA and we have both Lynch and Jacskson on our roster. Ingram is a speed rusher, and the perfect compliment to Mario Williams. Will he be the pick? I don't think so. - Michael Floyd (WR) - Notre Dame
I am beyond obsessed with Michael Floyd. The more tape I watch, the more obsessed I become. Here is a MUST READ ARTICLE by Greg Cossel comparing Justin Blackmon and Michael Floyd - Floyd vs Blackmon. It is clear to all Bills fans that the Bills need someone to play opposite Stevie Johnson to help open up the offense. Floyd absolutely could fit the bill. - David DeCastro (G) - Stanford
As awesome as DeCastro is, and as much of a need we have on the offensive line - its not in the interior. Furthermore, the guard position is not this highly valued in the NFL anymore. Will he be the pick? Probably not - Luke Kuechley (LB) - BC
I am not going to discuss Luke much - Brian has spent plenty of time writing an article that I think everyone should read. I love Luke, I love what he brings to a team. Could he be the pick? Absolutely - Riley Reiff (OT) - Iowa
I am not going to go into this pick. There are some great fan posts regarding Reiff. The Bottom line is this - he can absolutely positively play LT. He is NFL ready and he fills a HUGE need. What are the issues? I cannot ignore Buddy Nix history of drafting offensive lineman, and Chan Gailey's history of LT's he's dealt with. Furthermore - I can't ignore the fact the does fit this "apparent measurement" the front office looks for in an offensive lineman. But could he still be the pick? Absolutely. - Mark Barron (SS) - Alabama
Our current starting strong safety is George Wilson. Don't get me wrong - I love George Wilson. Behind wilson is D. Searcy. On the FS side we are fine with Byrd, who is backed up however by Bryan Scott. Clearly there is a lack of depth. As the draft approaches Barron's stock has been increasing day by day. He is the total package at the SS position. He can do it all. Scouts love him. What his videos. He can really help the the defensive secondary on every level. He is a safe prospect, with a clean background, and excellent coaching. Could he be the pick? Absolutely. - Dre Kirkpatrick (CB) - Alabama
Another Alabama product has widely been considered as the 2nd rated CB in this year's draft. Kirkpatrick is a big player - and gives us the size we need in the secondary to cover the bigger receivers. His stock his slipped slightly - but more so Gilmore's stock has increased. My issue is we resigned McGhee, we still have Florence and McKelvin, and Aaron Williams is our starting corner on one side. But I don't count Kirk out. Could he be the pick? Absolutely?
I am sick of reading - who will be the pick already? I think the pick will come down to three players - Michael Floyd (WR), Riley Reiff (T), and Mark Barron (SS). Ultimately, The Buffalo Bills will select Michael Floyd with their 10th overall pick. Floyd brings a new dimension to our offense. The thought of having him play opposite Steve Johnson should have opposing defenses scared. Plus they have to be wary of blitzes because they need to worry about covering two big receivers. We have some great slot receivers on our roster, and others that will fit into 3, 4, 5 WR packages. I like Reiff a lot. But if we passed on Bulaga, why would we choose Reiff now?
OK - What about the other rounds?
- 2nd round: Bobby Massie (OT) - Mississippi (6'6'' 316lb, 5.23, 22, 35")
Depending on who falls and who is available, the Bills will need to fill the need at OT. There are a few players I really like at this point that can fill the void. Offensive Tackles like Bobbie Massie, Kelechi Osemele, Zebrie Sanders, and Mitichell Schwartz fill our need. So i feel comfortable taking a high impact player like Floyd in the first knowing the crop of offensive tackles that could be available to us at the top of the 2nd - 3rd round: Josh Robinson (CB) - Central Florida
I'm not sure who the specific player picked could be - but no this Bills fans - the CB class this year is very deep. So we will get a good corner in the 3rd round. There are a whole host of defensive backs that will be available here to be taken - check out my consensus bigboard to find out others
Onto the draft my fellow Bills fans -Moose
2012 NFL Mock Draft 3.0 Final - (Updated 3:45PM 4/16/2012)
UPDATED:
I have been listening to a few videos and shows today. I have read and watched things Charles Casserly, Mike Mayock, Greg Cossel, Adam Schefter, and Peter King are saying. So based on what they have been saying - I completely agree with what I put in my mock draft - The players that people feel are a "reach" are really good. And yes Coples and Jenkings will fall. McClellin will move up.
I have an updated version of my big board so you can get an idea of what is going on - because I have made some significant changes.
Furthermore - I will update the picks that are causing the most controversy with commentary ext.
Make sure you read up later guys
TO COME IN THE NEXT WEEK:
- Updated consensus big board
- Final final mock draft
- Draft rumors, news, and word around the league - ALL in one place
- Positional rankings
- Summary of team needs.
Based on the consensus big board, team needs, and what I have been hearing around the NFL
And a lot of my gut
A few different ideas - comments are more than welcomed
Of course there are going to be many trades - but at this time I cannot predict them. If I do it will be via a separate draft. This is the NO TRADE version.
- Indianapolis Colts - Andrew Luck (QB) - Stanford
I don't need to explain this one again - Washington Redskins - RGIII (QB) - Baylor
I don't need to explain this one again - Minnesota Vikings - Matt Kalil (LT) - USC
The Vikings would be absolutely, positively foolish to pass on Kalil. There are teams that are interested in trading up. As of today we are hearing the Eagles, and Rams. The only scenario of the Vikings trading out of this pick is if they receive significant compensation. And I don't see the Vikings doing it unless its a blockbuster trade. Why on earth would they pass on Kalil? I don't get it. I am hoping its a smoke screen for the sake of the organization and Christian Ponder - Cleveland Browns - Trent Richardson (RB) - Alabama
Richardson is the kind of player that you can build an offense around. For the time being the team is happy with what they have with Cold McCoy. But that does not mean they are interested in a QB - possibly Ryan Tannehill. But they will take Richardson over the QB. He is the higher rated player and he is one of the last of the true breed of RBs. - Tampa Bay Buccaneers - Morris Claiborne (CB) - LSU
Claiborne is not as much of an athletic freak as his fellow teammate Patrick Peterson. But he is a better cover corner. He is a pure cover corner, and the best player for the Bucs to take - unless some team bypasses them - St. Louis Rams - Justin Blackmon (WR) - Oklahoma St.
Finally Sam Bradford gets a weapon. Some people are saying Floyd is "better" than Blackmon. Yes Floyd is awesome, but NO he is not better. Blackmon is far more fluid, and is a better route runner. His big game performance is also something to be respected - Jacksonville Jaguars - Melvin Ingram (DE) - South Carolina
Is it just me or are the Jaguars incredibly difficult to mock lately. There are so many stories coming out of the Jacksonville front office. Jaguars need/want an elite pass rusher. Ingram is the best in the class. Furthermore he has clean - no off field issues. He is versatile, he is athletic. He has a little bit of everything. I love Ingram as a player - and I love Ingram on the Jaguars - Miami Dolphins - Ryan Tannehill (QB) - Texas AM
I was hesitant to draft Tannehill to the Dolphins. Why? Because of how the ownership is feeling right now. Lost Manning, Lost Flynn and now have to "settle" for Tannehill. I don't think it is settling. I really like Tannehill, but he can't start right away. Good thing Matt Moore is there. Furthermore the connection with OC McCarthy can't be ignored - Carolina Panthers - Fletcher Cox (DT) - Mississippi St.
I don't see Poe going to the Panthers. Cox is moving up draft boards as the consensus top rated DT in the class. He is a play-maker and can rush the passer as well as stop the run. He had a good pro-day and his tape does not lie. - Buffalo Bills - Riley Reiff (OT) - Iowa
It took me forever to finally decide and settle on the Bills taking Riley Reiff - which I am mocking, and which I think will happen in the draft. I so badly want to mock Michael Floyd here. But than I thought about this, I thought A LOT. Nix takes the BPA according to their big board - there is no doubt about that. Just when they took Spiller over Baluga. So some may ask, if the Bills passed on Baluga why would they pick Reiff? Reiff is better rated, and in this years draft is a top 10 rated offensive tackle. Some say he can't play the left side - that is a pile of poop. He can play both sides, he is very well taught, and fills a need for the Bills. Floyd is SO ATTRACTIVE HERE BUT - there are a few off field concerns. Reiff has the talent but is also the type of player that will be at the meetings first, puts in the off field effort, does everything he can do be successful. Nix will choose that over Floyd - Kansas City Chiefs - David DeCastro (G) - Stanford
Poe is a possibility here - but I have another player in mind for the Chiefs at NT. I love DeCastro. The Chiefs need help on the offensive line. Not only that - they have Peyton Hillis in the backfield, and a speedster RB returning from injury. Decastro will open up some massive holes for those players. DeCastro has been compared to Steve Hutchinson by some. - Seattle Seahawks - Luke Kuechley (LB) - BC
1 - I LOVE Luke. He is the man. Second - Carrol will absolutely love not only how good Luke is, but what he brings to the table as a team leader and person. This is a perfect marriage. Plus - the Seahawks just lost their starting ILB. Don't be surprised though, if Luke is taken earlier. - Arizona Cardinals - Michael Floyd (WR) - Notre Dame
Ever since Anquan left, the offense has been off. So does the departure of Kurt Warner. But the Cardinals got Levi Brown back in the business. Floyd is extremely talented and will help take pressure off of Fitzgerald and give Kolb another weapon to work with. Kolb will have a break out season - watch out for him and this offense. - Dallas Cowboys - Dontari Pie (NT) - Memphis
Cowboys love Poe. Poe also makes sense for a Rob Ryan defense - and help free up all the pass rushers. Love it. - Philadelphia Eagles - Mark Barron (SS) - Alabama
Eagles fans - remember a player named Bryan Dawkins? Miss him? Many people believe the Eagles will take a DT, apparently because of Andy Reid's history. Forget that. Mark Barron is awesome. He has elite skills and can do everything on the field. He might even creep into the top 10 of the big board before the draft. I love this pick for the Eagles. They can snag a DT and LBs later. - New York Jets - Courtney Upshaw (DE/OLB) - Alabama
Jets need a pass rusher - and Upshaw seams to be a perfect match for a Rex Ryan defense. Also Upshaw is a really good player - ignore what people are saying about his stock dropping. - Cincinnati Bengals - Cordy Glenn (OT/OG) - Georgia
Bengals need to get a CB - but first they take Cordy Glenn, the consensus 2nd rated G in the draft. Can also player OT. He is versatile, big, and strong. Plus the Bengals have a need at G. - San Diego Chargers - Michael Brockers (DT) - LSU
This pick will cause a lot of controversy. Work with me here. Brockers is the BPA at this point. The Chargers need help on the defense - more so at 3-4 OLB aka a pass rusher. But Brockers can play the 5 tech for the Chargers and rush the passer from there. His presence also frees up the player behind him. Works for me. - Chicago Bears - Whitney Merciles (DE) - Illinois
Bears were interested in Mario Williams and need someone to team up with Julius Peppers. I really like Merciles. This pick was between Mercilis and Chandler Jones, but at the end I went with Merciles because I think he compliments Peppers quite well. I love his speed and athletic ability. - Tennessee Titans - Stephon Gilmore (CB) - South Carolina
The Titans lost a lot of their secondary - and need to reload. Gilmore is make his way up boards as the draft approaches. He may even be ranked the #2 corner in the draft - ahead of Kirkpatrick. - Cincinnati Bengals - Dre Kirkpatrick (CB) - Alabama
The Bengal's get a starting left guard, and still get a top tier CB to reload their secondary. - Cleveland Browns - Brandon Weeden (QB) - Oklahoma St.
A pick that many of you may not agree with - but I love Weeden. The WR class is deep this year - and the Browns are in a good position to draft a receiver in the beginning of the second round. There will be other teams interested in Weeden and could move into the bottom of the 1st to snag him. It will give McCoy competition, and he fits the west coast system well. He has the maturity and ability to start immediately if need be. This draft ideology is similar to what the Bengals did last year - taking Green followed by Dalton. In this case the Browns go top tier RB, and QB. - Detroit Lions - Jonathan Martin (OT) - Stanford
Martin - ranked as a top tier LT falls to the hands of the Lions who finally get a chance to protect Matthew Stafford's weak side. This team's success has everything to do with how well Stafford plays, and keeping him on the field. - Pittsburgh Steelers - Mike Adams (OT) - Ohio St.
The Steelers front office specifically said they want to reload their offensive line - and Adams fits the bill. I think he is a great fit for the Steelers. Hightower is also a possibility here - but we saw how the Steelers offense struggled a result from weak offensive line play. - Denver Broncos - Kendall Wright (WR) - Baylor
Kendall Wright is the top rated player available at this point. Yes it is surprising to see him fall, but its the way things happen sometimes. The Broncos could go DT here - but instead they give Peyton Manning another weapon. Wright can stretch the field opposite of Thomas. DT can come later - this is a deep class. - Houston Texans - Stephen HIll (WR) - Georgia Tech
What happens when Andre Johnson gets injured? The passing attack falls apart. Everyone is mokcing Hill to the Texans - and why not? We have seen how well some recent WR from G Tech have done in the NFL. Texans could use a weapon across from Johnson. - New England Patiots - Chandler Jones (DE) - Syracuse
Chandler Jones in my opinion is the most raw, talented, and versatile defensive lineman in this class. His dimensions are awesome. He has a HUGE arm length. He is a freak athlete. He can play the 4-3 DE, 3-4OLB, or bulk up to become a 5-tech. He is used to playing in the cold. He has a great motor and work ethic. He is a perfect fit for the Patriots and what they want to do on defense. - Green Bay Packers - Nick Perry (DE/OLB) - USC
The thought of pairing up former USC pass rusher clay matthews, with this years USC pass rusher Nick Perry is exciting. It will instantly improve their pass rush. The Packers could also go 5 Tech here - but I think Perry is too athletic to pass on. Him and Matthews will wreck havoc in the NFC - Baltimore Ravens - Donta Hightower (ILB) - Alabama
I really hope this pick happens. Hightower has massive talent. And Ray Lewis needs a successor. Raw Lewis can mold Hightower into the perfect Ravens ILB. - San Francisco 49ers - Devon Still (DT) - Penn St.
The 49ers are built through their scary defense. Their defensive line is awesome. But they need depth. And taking the BPA, and taking someone to back up current 3-4 DE's is a great idea for the team. The 49ers have the luxury to take the BPA and create more depth on an already awesome defensive unit. - New England Patriots - Peter Konz (C) - Wisconsin
Konz is the BPA. Patriots need to add more talent to their offensive line. Furthermore Connely is better suited as a G. Konz has great bloodlines. Another rock solid pick for the Patriots - New York Giants - Bobby Massie (OT) - Mississippi
The Giants need to improve their offensive line. Massie is moving up the boards. I love him. He is athletic, talented, and can play both the left and right side. McKenzie, Diehl, and Ugoh at starting tackles for the Giants? NO That cannot happen. They can snag a RB later. First improve the line.
ROUND 2 (Will not give as much of a explanation unless I feel like I need to)
- St. Louis Rams - Jerel Worth (DT) - Michihgan St.
Rams need a DT, Worthy is the BPA available, perfect fit. - Indianapolis Colts - Coby Fleener (TE) - Stanford
A QB's best friend is his TE. Luck get's his favorite weapon from Stanford. They won't skip a beat in the NFL. - Minnesota Vikings - Alson Jeffery (WR) - South Carolina
Vikings need a big, athletic, big time WR for Ponder - Tampa Bay Bucs - Doug Martin (RB) - Boise St.
Martin has a very balanced game. He runs a lot like Blount. And he doesn't have those off field concerns - Cleveland Browns - Mohamed Sanu (WR) - Rutgers
Like I said, the Browns will get a WR for their QBs - Jacksonville Jaguars - Reuben Randle (WR) - LSU
Gabbert needs a WR to stretch the field. Randle is fast. - St. Louis Rams - Kelechi Osemele (OT/OG) - Iowa St.
Rams are saying they are not interested in selecting an offensive lineman. But they have to - esp with two tackles with injury issues. Osemele is versatile. Can play guard and RT. Protect Bradford they must. - Carolina Panthers - Quinton Coples (DE) - UNC
Coples is extremely talented but has issues with his work ethic. He is the BPA available at this point by far. He drops this far bc of his off field concerns. But the Panthers take him and are jumping with joy. There are good veteran players on this team - but I think Cam Newton keeps this kid straight and motivates him to be awesome - just like Newton did in his first season in the NFL - Buffalo Bills - Janoris Jenkins (CB) - Florida/North Alabama
Jenknins also drops because of off field concerns. Nix drafts according to BPA. And although Nix is hesitant to taking players with off field issues - Jenkins is a starting caliber, potentially elite CB. The Bills have a solid locker room, full of mature, blue collar, veteran leaders. Why not? Best case scenario - He cleans up and becomes a starter. Worst case - well can he be worst than McKelvin? - Miami Dolphins - Zebrie Sanders (OT) - Florida St.
Need a RT. - Seattle Seahawks - Andre Branch (DE) - Clemson
Still get a pass rusher - Kansas City Chiefs - Alameda Ta'amu (NT) - Washington
I told you the Chiefs will get their NT. - Dallas Cowboys - Kevin Zeitler (G) - Wisconsin
Improve the OL, protect Tony Romo - Philadelphia Eagles - Lavonte David (OLB) - Nebraska
- New York Jets - Lamar Miller (RB) - Miami
LT is gone. Shonn Green needs a partner to run with. Miller is the top rated player at this point. - New England Patriots - Brandon Thompson (DT) - Clemson
Strong, versatile DT falls to the PAtriots - San Diego Chargers - Mitchell Schwartz (OT) - California
Chargers sitll have issues on their offensive line - Chicago Bears - Amini Silatolu (OG) - Midwestern St.
Continue to improve their offensive line - Philadelphia Eagles - Zach Brown (OLB) - UNC
Eagles strike gold with the top two rated 4-3 OLB in the draft. LBs are all set for the Eagles now. - Tennessee Titans - Vinny Curry (DE) - Mashall
Titans get their pass rusher - Cincinnati Bengals - Doug Wilson (RB) - V Tech
Replace their aging RB - Detroit Lions - Alfonzo Dennard (CB) - Nebraska
Lions snag a CB to improve a bad secondary - Atlanta Falcons - Dwayne Allen (TE) - Clemson
Gonzalez is getting old. Allen is the BPA available at this point. He can sit and learn behind Tony. Also - the multiple TE set is becoming more popular in the NFL - Pittsburgh Steelers - Ronnell Lewis (LB) - Oklahoma
No more James Farrior - need a replacement - Denver Broncos - Kendall Reyes (DT) - Connecticut
Told you they would get a top tier DT - Houston Texans - Josh Chapman (NT) - Alabama
Texans need a true NT for their 3-4 defense. It will free up all their pass rushers. - New Orleans Saints - Jared Crick (DE) - Nebraska
Spagnuola's defense relies on a big defensive line with big strong DEs. Jared Crick is a stout run blocker and a good pass rusher. He will join forces with Cam Jordan to create a bigger and better defensive line. - Green Bay Packers - Shea McClellin (OLB) - Nebraska
I don't think Shea will last this long. He is a first round talent - and the Packers are obsessed with him. They could even take him in the first round. We will learn more as the draft approaches. But I do this according to the big board. - Baltimore Ravens - Harrison Smith (SS) - Notre Dame
Ravens need depth and talent at the safety position. Harrison Smith is actually a steal at this point. Many scouts LOVE him. - San Francisco 49ers - Orsan Charles (TE) - Georgia
Love the multiple TE set. Charles is really athletic - kind of like a makeshift WR. - New England Patriots - Brandon Boykin (CB) - Georgia
Improvement in their secondary - New York Giants - Chris Polk (RB) - Washington
Jacobs is gone, and Bradshaw recently got a bone marrow injection. He is also aging. They need a bruiser to replace the loss of Jacobs. The Giants are built on the running game - Polk will fit in perfectly - especially with Massie clearing holes for him.
Reviewing the 2011 Consensus Big Board
After reading comments on the current thread for this year's consensus board - I thought I put up last year's top 64 players from the consensus board - and you guys can compare and argue who you think is the best rookie ext.
Last year I used the following boards: SI, NFL.com, TFY, Mel Kiper, Todd McShay, Scout, CBS Sports, Draft Countdown, Rob Rang, Mike Mayock, Jon Dove, Draft Breakdown, New Era Scout, and MTD. I updated the big board a week before the draft.
RESULTS: I think the consensus big board is quite accurate, in general, to how the players will rank in the NFL.
On the right - I just put my opinion on who the best rookies were this year.
Who disappointed?
Nick Fairley (5), Da'Quan Bowers (7), Blaine Gabbert (10) front the first round. Ryan Mallet was ranked (37) but we know how took quite a tumble on draft day. His future has yet to be revealed. Mikel LeShoure (40) got injured and then got in trouble with marijuana. And there were a few other host of injuries but I don't necessarily count those as disappointments
Who surprised?
Aldon Smith (15) was MUCH better than most individuals anticipated, Adrian Claybourne (22) played better than his teammate Bowers, Andy Dalton (44) was lights out, Christian Ponder (41) played well and has a bright future, Titus Young (58) became important in the passing game for the Lions.
My thoughts
The fact is - I am NOT by any means a draft expert. Nor am I a scouting expert. I love football, and I think I have knowledge of the game. So i'll base my opinions on that. However - I don't have the qualifications to make an accurate big board. I could make a big board of what I "think" are the best players - but like I said I am not a draft expert. So I leave it to the people whose jobs and soul purpose is to research these players and create a ranking. And of course everyone has a different opinion. So why not put together the opinion of multiple professional scouts to create a big board. I love it. I keep my sheet with me on draft day - and my buddies and I watch the draft, predicts picks - and understand why a player is drafted in a specific point.
Anyways - enjoy and excited to hear your thoughts.
-Moose
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Patrick Peterson (CB) - 6'0'' 219lb - LSU |
Cam Newton (QB) - 6'5'' 248lb - Auburn |
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Marcell Dareus (DT/DE) - 6'3'' 319lb - Alabama |
Von Miller (OLB) - 6'3'' 246lb - Texas A&M |
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Von Miller (OLB) - 6'3'' 246lb - Texas A&M |
Patrick Peterson (CB) - 6'0'' 219lb - LSU |
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AJ Green (WR) - 6'4'' 211lb - Georgia |
Aldon Smith (DE) - 6'4'' 263lb - Missouri |
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Nick Fairley (DT/DE) - 6'4'' 297lb - Auburn |
Marcell Dareus (DT/DE) - 6'3'' 319lb - Alabama |
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Robert Quinn (DE/OLB) - 6'4'' 265lb - UNC |
AJ Green (WR) - 6'4'' 211lb - Georgia |
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Da'Quan Bowers (DE) - 6'3'' 280lb - Clemson |
JJ Watt (DE/DT) - 6'5'' 290lb - Wisconsin |
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Julio Jones (WR) - 6'3'' 220lb - Alabama |
Andy Dalton (QB) - 6'2'' 215lb - TCU |
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Prince Amukamara (CB) - 6'0'' 206lb - Nebraska |
Jake Locker (QB) - 6'3'' 231lb - Washington |
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10 |
Blaine Gabbert (QB) - 6'4'' 234lb - Missouri |
Ryan Kerrigan (DE/OLB) - 6'4'' 267lb - Purdue |
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Cameron Jordan (DE/DT) - 6'4'' 287lb - Cal |
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Tyron Smith - (OT) - 6'5'' 307lb - USC |
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JJ Watt (DE/DT) - 6'5'' 290lb - Wisconsin |
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Cam Newton (QB) - 6'5'' 248lb - Auburn |
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Aldon Smith (DE) - 6'4'' 263lb - Missouri |
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Mark Ingram (RB) - 5'9'' 215lb - Alabama |
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Anthony Castonzo (OT) - 6'7'' 311lb - BC |
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Ryan Kerrigan (DE/OLB) - 6'4'' 267lb - Purdue |
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Gabe Carimi (OT) - 6'7'' 314lb - Wisconsin |
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20 |
Corey Liuget (DE/DT) - 6'2'' 298lb - Illinois |
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Mike Pouncey (G) - 6'5'' 303lb - Florida |
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Adrian Clayborn (DE) - 6'3'' 281lb - Iowa |
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Nate Solder (OT) - 6'8'' 319lb - Colorado |
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24 |
Muhammed Wilkerson (DE/DT) - 6'5'' 315lb - Temple |
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Jake Locker (QB) - 6'3'' 231lb - Washington |
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26 |
Jimmy Smith (CB) - 6'2'' 211lbs - Colorado |
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27 |
Cameron Heyward (DT/DE) - 6'5'' 294lb - Ohio St. |
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28 |
Justin Houston (OLB) - 6'3'' 270lb - Georgia |
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29 |
Akeem Ayers (OLB) - 6'3'' 254lb - UCLA |
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Phil Taylor (NT) - 6'3'' 334lb - Baylor |
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Derek Sherrod (OT) - 6'6'' 321lb - Miss St. |
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Danny Watkins (G) - 6'3'' 310lb - Baylor |
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33 |
Brandon Harris (CB) - 5'10'' 191lb - Miami |
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Brooks Reed (DE/OLB) - 6'3'' 263lb - Arizona |
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Kyle Rudolph (TE) - 6'6'' 259lb - Notre Dame |
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Aaron Williams (CB/S) - 6'0'' 204lbs - Texas |
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Ryan Mallet (QB) - 6'7'' 253lb - Arkansas |
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Stephen Paea (DT) - 6'1'' 303lb - Oregon State |
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Christian Ballard (DE/DT) - 6'4'' 283lb - Iowa |
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Mikel Leshoure (RB) - 6'0'' 227lb - Illinois |
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Christian Ponder (QB) - 6'2'' 229lb - Florida State |
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Torrey Smith (WR) - 6'1'' 204lb - Maryland |
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Randall Cobb (WR/R) - 5'10'' 191lb - Kentucky |
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Andy Dalton (QB) - 6'2'' 215lb - TCU |
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Marvin Austin (DT) - 6'2'' 309lb - UNC |
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Jabaal Sheard (DE/OLB) - 6'3'' 264lb - Pittsburgh |
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Martez Wilson (ILB) 6'4'' 250lb - Illinois |
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Marcus Cannon (T/G) - 6'5'' 358lb - TCU |
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Rahim Moore (FS) - 6'0'' 202lbs - UCLA |
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Ryan Williams (RB) - 5'9'' 211lb - Virginia Tech |
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Benjamin Ijalana (T/G) - 6'4'' 317lb - Willanova |
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Rodney Hudson (G/C) - 6'2'' 299lb - Florida State |
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Leonard Hankerson (WR) - 6'2'' 209lb - Miami |
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Jonathan Baldwin (WR) - 6'4'' 228lb - Pittsburgh |
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Ras I Dowling (CB) - 6'1'' 198lb - Virginia |
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Allen Bailey (DE/DT) - 6'3'' 285lb - Miami |
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Bruce Carter (OLB) - 6'2'' 241lb - UNC |
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Titus Young (WR) - 5'11'' 174lb - Boise State |
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Orlando Franklin (T/G) - 6'6'' 316lb - Miami |
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Clint Boling (G) - 6'5'' 308lb - Georgia |
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Jerrel Jernigan (WR/R) - 5'9'' 185lb - Troy |
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Jurrell Casey (DT) - 6'1'' 300lb - USC |
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Colin Kaepernick (QB) - 6'5'' 233lb - Nevada |
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James Carpenter (OT) - 6'5'' 324lb - Alabama |
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Consensus Big Board - Final
PLEASE REC - so others can use for mocks, and i can continue to update
A few comments (please read):
- Hey guys, been working hard to get the final version of consensus big board together. Been busy so right now this is the TOP 100 players. A week before the draft I will have the top 250 players.
- Please keep in mind - since many comments were made last time - These are NOT MY RANKINGS. This is based on an average of boards.
- The following big boards were used: MTD, Walter Football, Chris Steuber, Draft Breakdown, NFL Future, Draft Hub, Draft Insider, NFL.com, Gil Brandt of NFL, Brooks of NFL, Rob Rang of CBS, Pete Prisco of CBS, CBS Sports, SI, Scout, Todd McShay and Scouts Inc, Mel Kiper, Scott Wright, NFP Wes Bunting
- The following boards are in the process of being added: Mike Mayock, Charles Casserly, Draft Tek, Pro Football Weekly, and New Era Scouting giving a total of 23 big boards.
- I will add an excel document in the next few days so it is easier for you guys to copy/paste, and use for your mock drafts and analysis.
Trends I have noticed as the draft approaches:
- Off field concerns are pushing down draft stock of players such as Janoris Jankins and Quinton Coples.
- Stephen Gilmore (CB), Bobby Massie (OT), Shea McClellin, and Chandler Jones (OT) have crept up draft boards during the scouting process. Gilmore and Jones are considered 1st round prospects. Massie and McClellin are considered borderline 1st round prospects.
- This is a deep WR, CB, DT, and DE class. This is a very weak safety class (Barron and Harrison being the only prominent athletes). This is a weak offensive lineman class after the first round. There is only one elite RB.
Big Board:
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Players (Heigh, Weight, 40, Bench, Arms) |
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QB |
Andrew Luck (QB) - Stanford - (6'4'' 234lb) |
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2 |
QB |
Robert Griffin III (QB) - Baylor - (6'2'' 218lb) |
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3 |
OT |
Matt Kalil (OT) - USC - (6'7'' 306lb, 4.99, 30, 34.25) |
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4 |
RB |
Trent Richardson (RB) - Alabama (5'11'' 224lb) |
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5 |
CB |
Morris Claiborne (CB) - LSU (5'11'' 188lb, 4.40) |
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6 |
WR |
Justin Blackmon (WR) - Oklahoma St. (6'1'' 211lb) |
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7 |
G |
David DeCastro (G) - Stanford (6'5'' 316lb, 5.43, 34, 32.4) |
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8 |
ILB |
Luke Kuechley (ILB) - BC (6'3'' 242lb, 4.50, 27, 31) |
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9 |
DE |
Melvin Ingram (DE/OLB) - South Carolina (6'1'' 264lb, 4.66, 28, 31.5) |
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10 |
DE |
Quinton Coples (DE) - UNC (6'6'' 281lb, 4.72, 25, 33.25) |
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OT |
Riley Reiff (OT) - Iowa (6'6'' 313lb, 5.23, 23, 33.25) |
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12 |
WR |
Michael Floyd (WR) - Notre Dame (6'3'' 220lb, 4.47) |
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13 |
DT |
Michael Brockers (DT) - LSU (6'5'' 322lb, 5.1, 19, 35) |
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14 |
DT |
Fletcher Cox (DT) - Mississippi St. (6'4'' 298lb, 4.79, 26, 34.5) |
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15 |
CB |
Dre Kirkpatrick (CB) - Alabama (6'2'' 186lb, 4.43) |
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16 |
DT |
Dontari Poe (DT) - Memphis (6'4'' 346, 4.87, 44, 32) |
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17 |
SS |
Mark Barron (SS) - Alabama (6'1'' 213lb, 33.5) |
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18 |
DE/OLB |
Courtney Upshaw (DE/OLB) - Alabama (6'2'' 272lb, 22, 32) |
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19 |
WR |
Kendall Wright (WR) - Baylor (5'10'' 196lb, 4.41) |
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20 |
OT |
Cordy Glenn (OT) - Georgia (6'5'' 345lb, 5.15, 31, 35.75) |
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21 |
OT |
Jonathan Martin (OT) - Stanford (6'5'' 312lb, 34inch) |
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22 |
QB |
Ryan Tannehill (QB) - Texas A&M (6'4'' 221lb) |
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23 |
CB |
Janoris Jenkins (CB) - North Alabama (5'10'' 193lb, 4.44) |
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24 |
CB |
Stephon Gilmore (CB) South Carolina (6'0'' 190lb, 4.44) |
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25 |
DE/OLB |
Nick Perry (DE/OLB) - USC (6'3'' 271lb, 4.50, 35, 33) |
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26 |
DT |
Devon Still (DT) - Penn St. (6'5'' 303lb, 5.00, 26, 33.25) |
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27 |
ILB |
Donta Hightower (ILB) - Alabama (6'2'' 265lb) |
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28 |
OT |
Mike Adams (OT) - Ohio St. (6'7'' 323lb) |
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29 |
DE/OLB |
Whitney Mercilus (DE) - Illinois (6'4'' 261lb, 4.63, 27, 33.8) |
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30 |
C |
Peter Konz (C.) - Wisconsin (6'5'' 314lb, 18, 33) |
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31 |
TE |
Coby Fleener (TE) - Stanford (6'6'' 247lb) |
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32 |
DT |
Jerel Worthy (DT) - Michigan St. (6'2'' 308lb, 4.97, 33inch) |
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33 |
WR |
Stephen Hill (WR) - Georgia Tech (6'4'' 215lb, 4.36) |
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34 |
RB |
Lamar Miller (RB) - Miami (5'11'' 212lb, 4.38) |
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35 |
RB |
Doug Martin (RB) - Boise St. (5'9'' 223, 4.47) |
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36 |
DE/OLB |
Andre Branch (DE) - Clemson (6'4'' 259lb, 4.62, 34inch) |
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37 |
RB |
David Wilson (RB) - Virginia Tech (5'10'' 206lb, 4.4) |
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38 |
OLB |
Zach Brown (OLB) - UNC (6'1'' 236lb) |
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39 |
OLB |
Lavonte David (OLB) - Nebraska (6'1'' 233lb) |
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40 |
G |
Kevin Zeitler (G) - Wisconsin (6'4'' 314lb) |
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41 |
WR |
Alshon Jeffery (WR) - South Carolina (6'3'' 216lb, 4.48) |
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42 |
DT |
Brandon Thompson (DT) - Clemson (6'2'' 314lb, 35, 33.5) |
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43 |
TE |
Dwayne Allen (TE) - Clemson (6'3'' 255lb) |
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44 |
WR |
Rueben Randle (WR) - LSU (6'3'' 210lb, 4.38) |
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45 |
QB |
Brandon Weeden (QB) - Oklahoma St. (6'4'' 221lb) |
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46 |
DE |
Chandler Jones (DE) - Syracuse (6'5'' 266lb) |
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47 |
DE/OLB |
Vinny Curry (DE/OLB) - Marshall (6'3'' 266lb, 4.85, 32.75inch) |
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48 |
DT |
Kendall Reyes (DT) - Connecticut (6'4'' 300lb) |
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49 |
OLB |
Ronnell Lewis (OLB) - Oklahoma (6'2'' 244lb) |
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50 |
CB |
Alfonzo Dennard (CB) - Nebraska (5'10'' 204lb, 4.51) |
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51 |
OT |
Bobby Massie (OT) - Mississippi |
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52 |
SS |
Harrison Smith (SS) - Notre Dame (6'2'' 213lb) |
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53 |
DE |
Jared Crick (DE) - Nebraska (6'4'' 280lb) |
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54 |
DT |
Alameda Ta'amu (DT) - Washington (6'3'' 348lb) |
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55 |
WR |
Mohamed Sanu (WR) - Rutgers (6'2'' 211lb, 4.67) |
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56 |
TE |
Orson Charles (TE) - Georgia (6'2'' 251, 4.7, 35, 32.5) |
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57 |
G |
Amini Silatolu (OG) - Midwestern St. |
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58 |
OT |
Kelechi Osemele (OT/OG) - Iowa St. (6'6'' 333lb) |
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59 |
CB |
Brandon Boykin (CB) - Georgia (5'10'' 182lb) |
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60 |
OLB |
Shea McClellin (OLB) - Nebraska (6'3'' 248lb) |
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61 |
OLB |
Bobby Wagner (OLB) - Utah St. (6'0'' 241lb) |
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62 |
CB |
Jayron Hosley (CB) - Virginia Tech (5'10'' 178lb, 4.38) |
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63 |
CB |
Jamell Fleming (CB) - Oklahoma (5'11'' 206lb) |
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64 |
CB |
Josh Robinson (CB) - Central Florida |
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65 |
QB |
Brock Osweiler (QB) - Arizona St. |
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66 |
OT |
Mitchell Schwartz (OT) - California |
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67 |
OT |
Zebrie Sanders (OT) - Florida St. |
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68 |
OLB |
Mychal Kendricks (LB) - California |
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69 |
CB |
Trumaine Johnson (CB) - Montana (6'2'' 204lb, 4.5) |
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70 |
RB |
LaMichael James (RB) - Oregon |
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71 |
CB |
Casey Hayward (CB) - Vanderbilt |
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72 |
DE |
Billy Winn (DE) - Boise St. |
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73 |
RB |
Chris Polk (RB) - Washington |
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74 |
OLB |
Bruce Irvin (OLB) - West Virginia |
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75 |
CB |
Chase Minnifield (CB) - Virginia (5'10'' 183lb) |
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76 |
C |
Ben Jones (C.) - Georgia |
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77 |
WR |
Juron Criner (WR) - Arizona (6'3'' 224lb, 4.68) |
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78 |
CB |
Trevin Wade (CB) - Arizona |
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79 |
OLB |
Sean Spence (OLB) - Miami |
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80 |
DE |
Cam Johnson (DE) - Virginia (6'3'' 268lb) |
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81 |
DE |
Tyrone Crawford (DE) - Boise St. |
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82 |
WR |
Brian Quick (WR) - Appalachian St. |
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83 |
WR |
Chris Givens (WR) - Wake Forest (5'11'' 198lb) |
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84 |
OT |
Jeff Allen (OT) - Illinois |
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85 |
SS |
George Iloka (SS) - Boise St. |
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86 |
OT |
Donald Stephenson (OT) - Oklahoma |
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87 |
DT |
Josh Chapman (NT) - Alabama |
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88 |
OG |
Brandon Brooks (OG) - Miami Ohio |
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89 |
G |
Brandon Washington (G) - Miami |
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90 |
QB |
Kirk Cousins (QB) - Michigan St. |
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91 |
FS |
Markelle Martin (FS) - Oklahoma St. |
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92 |
QB |
Nick Foles (QB) - Arizona |
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93 |
WR |
Joe Adams (WR/KR) - Arkansas (5'11'' 180lb, 4.55) |
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94 |
CB |
Josh Norman (CB) - Coast Carolina |
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95 |
RB |
Bernard Pierce (RB) - Temple |
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96 |
CB |
Dwight Bentley (CB) - LA-Lafayette |
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97 |
DT |
Mike Martin (DT) - Michigan |
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98 |
RB |
Isaiah Pead (RB) - Cincinnati |
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99 |
WR |
Marvin Jones (WR) - California (6'2'' 200lb, 4.46) |
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100 |
DE |
Malik Jackson (DE) - Tennessee (6'5'' 270lb) |
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ADAM SCHEFTER RESPONDS TO MY QUESTION ABOUT KALIL
I e-mail SChefter. He respnded
Matt Kalil (UPDATED @ 12:30pm 4/12/12)
Hey guys - have not posted in a while - will have a few posts on the weekend but this is the first thing I wish to start with.
I am obsessed with Matt Kalil.
Matt Kalil - 6'7'' 306lb ran a 4.99, had a 30 bench, and has a 34.25 inch arm length. He is one of the main reasons Matt Barkley was essentially untouched at USC last year. Also watch his effort in running plays - exceptional.
Matt Kalil is a franchise left tackle that you can essentially place at the LT spot and keep him there for the next 10 years.
Scouts argue that Matt Kalil is the best OT prospect to be coming out of college in the last decade; comparing him to players like Jake Long, Joe Thomas, and a health Russel Okung.
I have been watching tape, and "scouting" for the past three years as a hobby, and out of all the offensive tackles i have analyzed - Kalil is by far the best with Okung as 2nd best.
There is no doubting that we NEED a LT. We let Bell go because he was offered more money some where else. We let Peters go because we felt he was too expensive.
How do we acquire him?
I want to make clear the improbability of my proposal and the tendencies of this front office. They hate to give up picks, and have a strong tendency to stay in place, or trade down. But I don't care.
The Minnesota Vikings are "listening" to offers and are "all ears" for quite sometime, rumors which have been confirmed my Adam Schefter as recent as this morning.
The 3rd overall pick in the NFL draft is worth 2200 points, the 10th pick is worth 1300 points. The difference is 900 points which is the equivalent of the 18th overall pick. Clearly it will take a lot to acquire that pick. The Bills should trade this years 1st and 2nd (490) picks leaving about 400 points. The Bills should also trade next years 2nd round draft pick (about 400 points). In the middle throw in a 5th for a Vikings 6th.
So the Bills have to give up 2, 2nd round picks, a probably a couple here and there to move up. Guess what - ITS WORTH IT.
What is a franchise Left Tackle like Matt Kalil worth? Given the new rules - he won't be expensive (until his contract ends). He is a sure prospect. Even after Fitz is gone, he will be protecting the blind side. If you can get a franchise LT - I think it's worth 2 1st round picks. Just like the Redskins believe that RGIII is their franchise QB - they gave up a lot - but at the end of the day its worth it because you have a franchise, pro-bowl calliber player. Kalil is THAT good, and is THAT important to the success of our team. We have a gaping hole that we have been trying to fill. Why not fill it with the BEST???
Why wouldn't you? I would even be willing to throw in next year's first if its needed. We should trade up to acquire Matt Kalil. I know what the reasons people will say:
- Nix doesn't trade up
- You are loosing draft picks
- We have other needs
- Blah blah blah
- It is impossible - DO NOT TELL ME IT IS IMPOSSIBLE BC NO ONE THOUGHT WE WOULD HAVE MARIO WILLIAMS ON OUR ROSTER AT THE BEGINNING OF FREE AGENCY!!!
I don't care. You are moving up to acquire a superstar - a blue chip player - a cornerstone player - a franchise player - a pro-bow potential player - with incredible gene lines. He is the man. For a long period team, he was ranked higher than RGIII on big boards.
The thought of Kalil (LT) - Levitre (LG) - Eric Wood (C) Makes me so excited.
Anyways - I threw in a polll And excited to hear everyone's thoughts
-Moose
ADAM SCHEFTER RESPONDS AFTER I SENT HIM A MESSAGE - PLEASE SEE LINK
2012 NFL Mock Draft 2.0 (Updated 4/3/2012 12:30pm w comments)
A few things. My Mock drafts are based on my consensus big board, what I have been hearing around the NFL, reading articles, looking at GM histories, mixing needs with wants, and BPA. AKA - I do my research.
Furthermore - As we approach the draft - rumors are spreading, smoke screens are being created, GM's are researching. Lots is going on. At the end of the day - I will go by two philosophies. BPA - and GM tendencies. Lets get things started.
- INDIANAPOLIS COLTS ANDREW LUCK (QB) - STANFORD
I don't care about the RG3 reports. Andrew Luck is too good. I have questioned him several times. He may not have the strongest arm, yes he may have a goofy voice, and his ceiling is far from being reached. The kid is awesome, and he is a franchise. He is the perfect man to take over Peyton Manning. - WASHINGTON REDSKINS - RG3 (QB) - BAYLOR
This is a special draft. Two, out of the world franchise QBs available for the taking. 1 & 2 - you can't go wrong. I do believe RG3 has a higher ceiling. But I am excited to see both of these guys. I consider this a 1A and a 1B kinda situation. Both are 1st overall to me. - Minnesota Vikings - MATT KALIL (LT) - USC
Matt Kalil is athletic and the cleanest LT prospect I have ever seen. Get a WR later Wikings, a CB later, please do not change your decision to pick Kalil - he's a pro-bowler. I think that Vikings taking someone other Kalil is just fooling around with the league. - CLEVELAND BROWNS - TRENT RICHARDSON (RB) - ALABAMA
Many think Tannehill - I say no. They are "happy" with McCoy. Richardson is the kind of player that you can build an offense around - especially in the tough weather in Cleveland. Richardson should be the player - the Browns can find McCoy some competition later. - TAMPA BAY BUCS - MORRIS CLAIBORNE (CB) - LSU
Remember Patrick Peterson? Remember how good he is? Think Peterson's skill set in a pure cover corner. Claiborne is too good. Period. I've heard many rumors about the Bucs taking Trent Richardson. Richardson is awesome - but do you really pass up on a player like Morris? We all know the importance of the passing game, and the value of the RB in all rounds. - ST LOUIS RAMS - JUSTIN BLACKMON (WR) - OKLAHOMA ST.
I think Trent Richardson is a real possibility here. The Rams really like him. But give Bradford a true #1 receiver. Blackmon - well simply put - he is the man. - JACKSONVILLE JAGUARS - MELVIN INGRAM (DE) - SOUTH CAROLINA
This was the hardest pick for me. I debated between OT, WR, and DE. I think Ingram has too much upside, he plays fast and he plays awesome. I like him on the Jaguars. And given the QBs in the division you NEED to pressure them. Ingram over Floyd & Reiff (Apparently GM never takes offensive lineman in the first) -
My comments regarding Gene Smith were wrong - I went back to check out Jags history - and i forgot about Eugene Monroe. But I also read somewhere that apparently the jaguars would not be interested in taking an offensive lineman in the 1st. - MIAMI DOLPHINS - RYAN TANNEHILL (QB) - TEXAS A&M
Although I believe that Matt Moore will do well in the Dolphins system - I feel like the Dolphins can't pass on Tannehill if he is here. And I am also hearing the connections between the OC, HC, and Ryan Tannehill. Tannehill def has the potential to be a franchise QB - but it will take time. He has the tools. But the Head office will have to really think this through. Many years ago the Dolphins took Jake Long over Matt Ryan and Joe Flacco. Can they take another offensive lineman and pass on another QB? I don't think so.......... - CAROLINA PANTHERS - MICHAEL BROCKERS (DT) - LSU
I think Brockers is better than Poe. The tape does not lie. Brockers it is here - even with the defensive tackles taken last year's draft. The defensive backs will be taken later.
Some think that Cox should be the pick here. For now I am going too keep it Brockers based the consensus big-board, but things could change. - BUFFALO BILLS - MICHAEL FLOYD (WR) - NOTRE DAME
This was the hardest pick in the draft. I so badly want to give The Bills an offensive tackle - given their lack of depth. But none of the OT in this range are worthy of the 10th pick. Mike Adams is a "reach" as is Cordy Glenn. Jonathan Martin and Riley Reiff to fit the "Nix Mold." But if Buffalo really feels that one of those players is their guy they will pull the trigger. Floyd has elite potential and will take significant pressure off of Stevie Johnson. - KANSAS CITY CHIEFS - DAVID DECASATRO (OG) - STANFORD
Not only is DeCastro the BPA available but he fits a need AND he is projected to be a superstar being compared to players like Steve Huchingson. Decastro will help pave the way for Peyton Hillis and Jamaal Charles. - SEATTLE SEAHAWKS - LUKE KUECHLEY (LB) - BC
Kuechley will become the QB of this young and highly talented defense. Seahawks didn't sign David Hawthorne.
Kuechley is considered by most a top 10 pick. He has the talent and all the intangibles you look for in a player at this position. You have seen the impact that players like Ray Lewis and Patrick Willis have had on their teams. I am not saying he is Ray Lewis or Patrick Willis - but his talent and most of all his leadership are awesome. Some consider DE here. Coples is a possibility but he comes with a few red flags. Furthermore didn't the Seahawks re-sign their DE Red Bryant? - ARIZONA CARDINALS - RILEY REIFF (OT) - IOWA
Another tough pick - but Kolb must be protected. A WR is also possible - because this offense runs through Larry Fitzgerald and another WR to take pressure off of him would be advantageous. However IDK if Wright or Hill can be the players here. Cardinals are weak on the offensive line - Riley Reiff is the BPA - take him. - DALLAS COWBOYS - QUINTON COPLES (DE) - UNC
Coples has Top 5 talent but his work ethic is questionable. Rob Ryan will get the best out of him and Coples will help this defensive line. He is the BPA available and improves the team. Coples on one side and Demarcus Ware on the other side. Have fun blocking that NFC East. - PHILADELPHIA EAGLES - FLETCHER COX (DT) - MISSISSIPPI
They got their ILB - Andy Reid loves his DT's - and Cox is Mayock's #1 rated DT. - NEW YORK JETS - COURTNEY UPSHAW (OLB) - ALABAMA
Whats a Rex Ryan defense with out a rush LB. Upshaw was awesome in his pro-day and he has experience in a 3-4 defense. This is the right pick for a defensive team and a defensive minded coach. - CINCINNATI BENGALS - DRE KIRKPATRICK (CB) - ALABAMA
Ah another Alabama player in the 1st rd. Bengals are in need of help in the secondary and Kirkpatrick has the talent to upgrade. Gilmore is rising up boards - he is also an option. If the off field issues do not bother - Jenkins is also a possibility - SAN DIEGO CHARGERS - NICK PERRY (OLB) - USC
Perry stays in Cali - and continues to create mayhem for opposing QBs. I love Perry - and I love him on the Chargers - CHICAGO BEARS - CORDY GLENN (OT) - GEORGIA
Bears need to continue to upgrade their offensive line. Whether its on the inside or the outside Glenn is an upgrade. Some say he is perfect for Mike Tice offensive mold. - TENNESSEE TITANS - JONATHAN MARTIN (OT) - STANFORD
Apparently Titans don't take offensive lineman early. Martin drops - he is an elite tackle. Some say he sucks, some love him. But there is a reason Luck stayed clean for so long. Yes Luck got rid of the ball but someone needs to protect his blindside. - CINCINNATI BENGALS - MARK BARRON (SS) - ALABAMA
The upgrade in the secondary continues - another Alabama product joins his former team-mate to continue to improve a young, awesome, Bengals secondary. - CLEVELAND BROWNS - KENDALL WRIGHT (WR) - BAYLOR
The Browns like Wright. The Browns need a weapon. Nothing better than a field stretching speedster to create room for Trent Richardson and make the offensive more dynamic. - DETROIT LIONS - STEPHON GILMORE (CB) - SOUTH CAROLINA
Gilmore is moving up the boards. Lions need help in the secondary. Perfect fit. - PITTSBURGH STEELERS - DONTARI POE (NT) - MEMPHIS
Yes - the tape does not lie. And guess what - Poe's tape is not impressive - that is why he drops. But that does not mean he has the potential to be great. The Steelers have an aging NT - Poe can learn and eventually replace him. This is a perfect fit. - DENVER BRONCOS - ALSHON JEFFERY (WR) - SOUTH CAROLINA
DT can come later. You can't tell me that the Broncos don't have Manning's success in mind while making this pick. How about a big, productive, possession, WR for manning to target? I say get him in.
I knew this would be the most controversial pick. Lets break it down. The team is moving away from Tebow as starting QB - to Peyton Manning. Their style is the difference between night and day. Currently the Broncos WR include D. Thomas, E. Decker, A. Caldwell. TE includes Tamme. So you tell me.....Does Peyton Manning need more weapons? Does this offense need more weapons? If Broncos nation does not believe an offensive player should be taken at this position - I'll make note of it. There are some good defensive lineman, and defensive backs available at this point........But if I'm the front office, I want to help Manning as much as possible. I did not choose Stephen Hill because he is D. Thomas 2.0 - HOUSTON TEXANS - STEPHEN HILL (WR) - GEORGIA TECH
The Texans love Stephen Hill here - I have a few other players in mind BUT - We saw what happened to the offense when Andre Johnson went down. - NEW ENGLAND PATRIOTS - DEVON STILL (DT) - PENN ST.
Patriots will look to improve two positions on the defense. Rush OLB and a DE. Devon Still should be taken higher but falls into their laps. - GREENBAY PACKERS - JEREL WORTHY (DT) - MICHIGAN ST.
They filled their need at Center - Jeff Saturday is a GREAT signing. But they need an upgrade on the DE spot. I love Worthy. - BALTIMORE RAVENS - DONTA HIGHTOWER (LB) - ALABAMA
Hightower has all the potential in the world. Ravens need to replace Ray Lewis at some point. Donta gets to learn from the best and will eventually take over becoming the center of the great Ravens defense. - SAN FRANCISCO 49ERS - JANORIS JENKINGS (CB) - NORTH ALABAMA
Jenkins has the talent. He has top 10 talent - watch the tape. But he has off field issues - those issues will not be forwarded to the NFL - Haurbaugh will make sure. - NEW ENGLAND PATRIOTS - WHITNEY MERCILUS (DE/OLB) - ILLINOIS
Whitney can play both 3-4 OLB and 4-3DE - he is the perfect fit for the hybrid Patriots defense. Perfect fit. - NEW YORK GIANTS - DOUG MARTIN (RB) - BOISE ST.
Brandon Jacobs is gone. Ahmad Bradshaw received a Bone Marrow injection. Remember - the Giants are a RUNNING TEAM - regardless of the legendary Eli Manning. Doug Martin is a big, powerful, quick RB. He is a perfect fit for the Giants. He must be taken at this point.
The Giants not only need a RB but should take one, and Doug Martin is more than worthy of this pick. Tom Coughlin is a coach that wants to run the ball. Yes some say that they are no longer a running team. That is untrue - not under Tom Coughlin. Stick to your roots. Doug Martin is a PERFECT fit for a tough nosed Giants Team.
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Andrew Luck (QB) - Stanford - (6'4'' 234lb) |
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2 |
Robert Griffin III (QB) - Baylor - (6'2'' 218lb) |
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3 |
Matt Kalil (OT) - USC - (6'7'' 306lb, 4.99, 30, 34.25) |
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4 |
Trent Richardson (RB) - Alabama (5'11'' 224lb) |
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5 |
Morris Claiborne (CB) - LSU (5'11'' 188lb, 4.40) |
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6 |
Justin Blackmon (WR) - Oklahoma St. (6'1'' 211lb) |
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7 |
Quinton Coples (DE) - UNC (6'6'' 281lb, 4.72, 25, 33.25) |
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8 |
David DeCastro (G) - Stanford (6'5'' 316lb, 5.43, 34, 32.4) |
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9 |
Luke Kuechley (ILB) - BC (6'3'' 242lb, 4.50, 27, 31) |
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10 |
Melvin Ingram (DE/OLB) - South Carolina (6'1'' 264lb, 4.66, 28, 31.5) |
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11 |
Riley Reiff (OT) - Iowa (6'6'' 313lb, 5.23, 23, 33.25) |
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12 |
Michael Brockers (DT) - LSU (6'5'' 322lb, 5.1, 19, 35) |
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13 |
Dre Kirkpatrick (CB) - Alabama (6'2'' 186lb, 4.43) |
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14 |
Dontari Poe (DT) - Memphis (6'4'' 346, 4.87, 44, 32) |
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15 |
Michael Floyd (WR) - Notre Dame (6'3'' 220lb, 4.47) |
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16 |
Fletcher Cox (DT) - Mississippi St. (6'4'' 298lb, 4.79, 26, 34.5) |
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17 |
Courtney Upshaw (DE/OLB) - Alabama (6'2'' 272lb, 22, 32) |
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18 |
Kendall Wright (WR) - Baylor (5'10'' 196lb, 4.44) |
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19 |
Jonathan Martin (OT) - Stanford (6'5'' 312lb, 34inch) |
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20 |
Mark Barron (SS) - Alabama (6'1'' 213lb, 33.5) |
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21 |
Cordy Glenn (OT) - Georgia (6'5'' 345lb, 5.15, 31, 35.75) |
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22 |
Devon Still (DT) - Penn St. (6'5'' 303lb, 5.00, 26, 33.25) |
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23 |
Janoris Jenkins (CB) - North Alabama (5'10'' 193lb, 4.44) |
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24 |
Ryan Tannehill (QB) - Texas A&M (6'4'' 221lb) |
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25 |
Nick Perry (DE/OLB) - USC (6'3'' 271lb, 4.50, 35, 33) |
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26 |
Mike Adams (OT) - Ohio St. (6'7'' 323lb) |
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27 |
Whitney Mercilus (DE) - Illinois (6'4'' 261lb, 4.63, 27, 33.8) |
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28 |
Donta Hightower (ILB) - Alabama (6'2'' 265lb) |
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29 |
Peter Konz (C.) - Wisconsin (6'5'' 314lb, 18, 33) |
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30 |
Jerel Worthy (DT) - Michigan St. (6'2'' 308lb, 4.97, 33inch) |
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31 |
Stephon Gilmore (CB) South Carolina (6'0'' 190lb, 4.44) |
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32 |
Lamar Miller (RB) - Miami (5'11'' 212lb, 4.38) |
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33 |
Coby Fleener (TE) - Stanford (6'6'' 247lb) |
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34 |
Zach Brown (OLB) - UNC (6'1'' 236lb) |
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35 |
Stephen Hill (WR) - Georgia Tech (6'4'' 215lb, 4.36) |
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36 |
David Wilson (RB) - Virginia Tech (5'10'' 206lb, 4.4) |
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37 |
Andre Branch (DE) - Clemson (6'4'' 259lb, 4.62, 34inch) |
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38 |
Doug Martin (RB) - Boise St. (5'9'' 223, 4.47) |
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39 |
Brandon Thompson (DT) - Clemson (6'2'' 314lb, 35, 33.5) |
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40 |
Dwayne Allen (TE) - Clemson (6'3'' 255lb) |
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41 |
Lavonte David (OLB) - Nebraska (6'1'' 233lb) |
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42 |
Kevin Zeitler (G) - Wisconsin (6'4'' 314lb) |
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43 |
Rueben Randle (WR) - LSU (6'3'' 210lb, 4.38) |
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44 |
Alshon Jeffery (WR) - South Carolina (6'3'' 216lb, 4.60) |
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45 |
Orson Charles (TE) - Georgia (6'2'' 251, 4.7, 35, 32.5) |
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46 |
Brandon Weeden (QB) - Oklahoma St. (6'4'' 221lb) |
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47 |
Mohamed Sanu (WR) - Rutgers (6'2'' 211lb, 4.67) |
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48 |
Ronnell Lewis (OLB) - Oklahoma (6'2'' 244lb) |
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49 |
Jared Crick (DE) - Nebraska (6'4'' 280lb) |
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50 |
Kendall Reyes (DT) - Connecticut (6'4'' 300lb) |
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51 |
Alfonzo Dennard (CB) - Nebraska (5'10'' 204lb, 4.51) |
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52 |
Vinny Curry (DE/OLB) - Marshall (6'3'' 266lb, 4.85, 32.75inch) |
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53 |
Kelechi Osemele (OT/OG) - Iowa St. (6'6'' 333lb) |
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54 |
Brandon Boykin (CB) - Georgia (5'10'' 182lb) |
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55 |
Chandler Jones (DE) - Syracuse (6'5'' 266lb) |
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56 |
Harrison Smith (SS) - Notre Dame (6'2'' 213lb) |
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57 |
Jamell Fleming (CB) - Oklahoma (5'11'' 206lb) |
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58 |
Alameda Ta'amu (DT) - Washington (6'3'' 348lb) |
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59 |
Jayron Hosley (CB) - Virginia Tech (5'10'' 178lb, 4.38) |
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60 |
Bobby Wagner (OLB) - Utah St. (6'0'' 241lb) |
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61 |
Chase Minnifield (CB) - Virginia (5'10'' 183lb) |
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62 |
Zebrie Sanders (OT) - Florida St. |
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63 |
Mitchell Schwartz (OT) - California |
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64 |
Josh Robinson (CB) - Central Florida |
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65 |
Bobby Massie (OT) - Mississippi |
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66 |
Markelle Martin (FS) - Oklahoma St. |
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67 |
Ben Jones (C.) - Georgia |
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68 |
Bruce Irvin (OLB) - West Virginia |
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69 |
Brock Osweiler (QB) - Arizona St. |
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70 |
Shea McClellin (OLB) - Nebraska (6'3'' 248lb) |
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71 |
Amini Silatolu (OG) - Midwestern St. |
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72 |
Mychal Kendricks (LB) - California |
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73 |
Josh Chapman (NT) - Alabama |
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74 |
Cam Johnson (DE) - Virginia (6'3'' 268lb) |
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75 |
Casey Hayward (CB) - Vanderbilt |
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76 |
Chris Polk (RB) - Washington |
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77 |
LaMichael James (RB) - Oregon |
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78 |
Brandon Washington (G) - Miami |
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79 |
George Iloka (SS) - Boise St. |
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80 |
Trumaine Johnson (CB) - Montana (6'2'' 204lb, 4.5) |
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81 |
Sean Spence (OLB) - Miami |
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82 |
Marvin Jones (WR) - California (6'2'' 200lb, 4.46) |
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83 |
Billy Winn (DE) - Boise St. |
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84 |
Tyrone Crawford (DE) - Boise St. |
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85 |
Nick Foles (QB) - Arizona |
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86 |
Mike Martin (DT) - Michigan |
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87 |
Chris Givens (WR) - Wake Forest (5'11'' 198lb) |
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88 |
Josh Norman (CB) - Coast Carolina |
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89 |
Dwight Bentley (CB) - LA-Lafayette |
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90 |
Jeff Allen (OT) - Illinois |
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91 |
Demario Davis (OLB) - Arkansas St. |
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92 |
Malik Jackson (DE) - Tennessee (6'5'' 270lb) |
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93 |
Matt McCants (OT) - UAB |
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94 |
Bernard Pierce (RB) - Temple |
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95 |
Jarius Wright (WR) - (5'10'' 176lb) |
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96 |
Nick Toon (WR) - Wisconsin (6'2'' 215lb, 4.54) |
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97 |
Robert Turbin (RB) - Utah St. |
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98 |
Isaiah Pead (RB) - Cincinnati |
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99 |
Joe Adams (WR/KR) - Arkansas (5'11'' 180lb, 4.55) |
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100 |
Kirk Cousins (QB) - Michigan St. |
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101 |
Juron Criner (WR) - Arizona (6'3'' 224lb, 4.68) |
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102 |
Brian Quick (WR) - Appalachian St. |
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103 |
Brandon Mosley (OT) - Auburn |
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104 |
Adam Gettis (OG) - Iowa |
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105 |
Keenan Robinson (LB) - Texas |
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106 |
DaJohn Harris (DT) - USC |
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107 |
James Michael Johsnon (ILB) - Nevada |
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108 |
Coryell Judie (CB) - Texas AM |
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109 |
Derek Wolfe (DT/DE) - Cincinnati (6'5'' 295lb, 33, 33.25) |
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110 |
Philip Blake (OC) - Baylor |
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111 |
Brandon Brooks (OG) - Miami Ohio |
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112 |
Leonard Johnson (CB) - Iowa St. (5'10'' 196lb) |
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113 |
Trent Robinson (S) - Michigan St. |
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114 |
Audie Cole (LB) - North Carolina St. |
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115 |
Ronnie Hillman (RB) - San Diego St. |
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116 |
Nate Potter (OT) - Boise St. |
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117 |
Lucas Nix (OG) - Pittsburgh |
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118 |
Tony Bergstrom (OT) - Utah |
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119 |
Travis Lewis (OLB) - Oklahoma |
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120 |
Nigel Bradham (OLB) - Florida St. |
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121 |
Cyrus Gray (RB) - Texas AM |
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122 |
Andrew Datko (OT) - Florida State |
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123 |
Ladarius Green (TE) - La-Lafayette |
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124 |
James Brown (OG) - Troy |
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125 |
Michael Brewster (C.) - Ohio St. |
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126 |
Brandon Taylor (S) - LSU |
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127 |
Dwight Jones (WR) - UNC |
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128 |
Marvin McNutt (WR) - Iowa (6'3'' 216lb, 4.54) |
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129 |
DeQuan Menzie (CB) - Alabama |
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130 |
Christian Thompson (FS) - South Carolina St. |
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131 |
Antonio Allen (SS) - South Carolina |
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132 |
Chris Rainey (RB) - Florida |
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133 |
Jonathan Massaquoi (OLB/DE) - Troy |
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134 |
Deangelo Peterson (TE) - Louisiana St. |
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135 |
Marcus Forston (DT) - Miami Fl. |
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136 |
Ryan Steed (CB) - Furman |
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137 |
Senio Kelemete (OG) - Washington |
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138 |
Dominique Hamilton (DT) - Missouri |
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139 |
Jake Bequette (DE) - Arkansas |
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140 |
Donald Stephenson (OT) - Oklahoma |
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141 |
Janzen Jackson (FS) - McNeese St. |
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142 |
Greg Childs (WR) - Arkansas (6'3'' 219lb, 4.39) |
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143 |
Josh LeRibeus (OG) - Southern Methodist |
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144 |
Vontaze Burfict (ILB) - Arizona St. |
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145 |
Markus Zusevics (OT) - Iowa |
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146 |
AJ Jenkins (WR) - Illinois (6'0'' 190lb, 4.39) |
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147 |
Tommy Streeter (WR) - Miami (6'5'' 220lb, 4.40) |
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148 |
Trevor Guyton (DE) - California |
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149 |
TY Hilton (WR) - Florida International (5'10'' 183lb) |
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150 |
Aaron Henry (FS) - Wisconsin |
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151 |
Omar Bolden (CB) - Arizona St. |
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152 |
Donnie Fletcher (CB) - BC |
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153 |
Phillip Thomas (S) - Syracuse |
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154 |
Ryan Broyles (WR) - Oklahoma |
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155 |
Kheeston Randall (DT) - Texas |
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156 |
Josh Kaddu (OLB) - Oregon |
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157 |
Kyle Wilber (OLB) - Wake Forest |
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158 |
Evan Rodriquez (FB) - Temple |
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159 |
David Molk (OC) - Michigan |
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160 |
Jaye Howard (DT) - Florida |
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161 |
Terrell Manning (OLB) - North Carolina St. |
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162 |
Asa Jackson (CB) - (5'10'' 191lb) |
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163 |
Matt Reynolds (OT) - BYU |
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164 |
Vick Ballard (RB) - Mississippi St. |
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165 |
Cliff Harris (CB) - Oregon |
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166 |
Emmanuel Acho (OLB) - Texas |
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167 |
Jack Crawford (DE) - Penn St. (6'5'' 273lb) |
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168 |
Joe Looney (OG) - Wake Forest |
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169 |
Tydreke Powell (DT) - North Carolina |
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170 |
Russell Wilson (QB) - Wisconsin |
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171 |
Ryan Miller (G) - Colorado |
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172 |
Levy Adcock (OT) - Oklahoma St. |
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173 |
Michael Egnew (TE) - Missouri |
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174 |
Winston Guy Jr. (S) - Kentucky |
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175 |
Trevin Wade (CB) - Arizona |
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176 |
Shaun Prater (CB) - Iowa |
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177 |
Olivier Vernon (DE/OLB) - Miami (6'4'' 265lb) |
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178 |
Brett Roy (OLB) - Nevada (6'4'' 280lb) |
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179 |
Tank Carder (ILB) - TCU |
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180 |
Jarvis Jones (OT) - Oklahoma |
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181 |
Jerry Franklin (OLB) - Arkansas |
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182 |
Tony Dye (SS) - UCLA |
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183 |
Micah Pellerin (CB) - Hampton |
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184 |
DeVier Posey (WR) - Ohio St. |
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185 |
Tauren Poole (RB) - Tennessee |
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186 |
Jeff Fuller (WR) - Texas AM |
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187 |
Dan Herron (RB) - Ohio St. |
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188 |
Cordarro Law (DE) - Southern Miss |
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189 |
BJ Coleman (QB) - Tennesse Chattanooga |
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Kyle Nunn (OT) - South Carolina |
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191 |
Brandon Lindsey (DE/OLB) - Pittsburgh |
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192 |
Robert Blanton (CB) - Notre Dame |
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193 |
Ryan Lindley (QB) - San Diego St. |
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194 |
James Carmon (OT) - Mississippi St. |
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195 |
Edwin Baker (RB) - Michigan St. |
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196 |
Gerell Robinson (WR) - Arizona St. |
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197 |
George Bryan (TE) - North Carolina St. |
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198 |
Mike Daniels (DT) - Iowa |
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199 |
David Snow (OC) - Texas |
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Rhett Ellison (TE) - USC |
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BJ Cunningham (WR) - Michigan St. (6'2'' 215lb, 4.59) |
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Tim Benford (WR) - Tennessee Tech |
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Quenton Saulsberry (OC) - Mississippi St. |
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Akiem Hicks (DT) - University of Regina |
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Eric Page (WR) - Toledo |
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Donte Paige-Moss (DE) - North Carolina (6'4'' 260lb) |
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Tom Compton (OT) - South Dakota |
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208 |
Arthur Brown (MLB) - Kansas St. |
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Danny Trevathan (OLB) - Kentucky |
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210 |
Kelcie McCray (SS) - Arkansas St. |
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Mike Harris (CB) - Florida St. |
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212 |
Jacquies Smith (DE) - Missouri |
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213 |
Hebron Fangupo (DT) - BYU |
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214 |
Derek Dennis (OG) - Temple |
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Cody Sensabaugh (CB) - Clemson |
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216 |
Chase Ford (TE) - Miami |
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Josh Oglesby (OT) - Wisconsin |
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218 |
Lance Lewis (WR) - East Carolina (6'3'' 209lb) |
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Christian Tupou (DT) - USC |
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220 |
Marc Tyler (RB) - USC |
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Julian Miller (DE/OLB) - West Virginia (6'4'' 268lb) |
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222 |
Michael Smith (RB) - Utah St. |
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223 |
James Hanna (TE) - Oklahoma |
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224 |
Max Gruder (ILB) - Pittsburgh |
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Jonathan Martin (LT) - Stanford
I absolutely love Martin.
I think he is a franchise LT
6'5'' 312lb 34inch arms.
He is one of the reasons that Andrew Luck had such a successful season, and never had to worry about his blind side
But I keep hearing form people that Martin does not fit the "Mold" of Nix/Gailey Offensive-lineman. I'm a bit confused. I understand a mold - but if you have an opportunity to snag a franchise LT - to protect our most important entity - Ryan Fitzpatrick - because remember. NO RYAN - NO OFFENSE.
Can someone explain to me this "mold"
I know Nix history of drafting offensive lineman.
BUT nothing is for sure - regardless of this history.
Last season Buddy Nix made it clear there there was a need for depth at the offensive tackle position. Not to mention the oft injured D. Bell is on his way out.
I WANT MARTIN but can someone please answer these questions for me and explain to me why we shouldn't take Martin.
Advice & Discussion with my fellow MTD-ers ( Everyone Please read)
I'll try to keep this as short as possible and to the point - if you agree please REC
INTRO
I absolutely love this site.
I love how well Brad, Dan, Brian, and Matt run the forums/blogs
It is a great place for people to share ideas, pass on information, communicate, and share love for the great game of football
THE ISSUE
As I read through some of these mock drafts - things are getting a bit chippy and personal. Comments like "You are crazy", "You are an idiot to think this, or that," Personal attacks, and general comments that are off putting and rude. It is absolutely unnecessary to respond in this fashion.
We can all be mature here. This is a site to posts our ideas, and learn more about the NFL draft.
Please have respect for each other and be cautious about the words you use. Read your posts before you post them. Think before you post. If you have criticism - please be constructive.
FOR EXAMPLE
With the 1st pick in the 2012 NFL Draft the Colts select Matt Kalil
WRONG - you are the biggest moron in the world - they would never do that
RIGHT - I have to dis-agree with this selection. This is why.
If you need more examples - please see how Brian Galliford responds to comments and his manner of constructive criticism
I hope this makes sense - and does not offend anyone.
JUST A LITTLE ABOUT ME:
I am a 25 yr old med school student from Rochester NY, attending school in Long Island. I am a die-hard Buffalo Bills fan. My favorite athlete and idol is Peyton Manning. My other favorite sports figure is Coach K of Duke, and I am a big fan of Matt Barkley of USC.
I have experience playing QB in high school - amazing experience
92% of my time is spent studying. But my favorite hobby, and extra-curricular interest is football. I love everything about football. I think is the greatest game in the world. My favorite part is the art of QB-ing; and how fair the NFL is set up. Every year is a different and new year for something fun and exciting to happen. I read a lot - and base any of my opinion - on gaining as much knowledge as possible about the game itself. There is no limit to how much we can learn.
MY MOCK DRAFTS:
In regards to my mock drafts. I do a lot of research every time i make a mock draft. I look at: Big Board, GM draft history, Team Needs, Scheme, What other respectable sources are saying, Player visits, Team interest, and my gut.
The previous few years I have been accurate in my projections - so I am confident in making guesses about what team will take what.
BUT THE BOTTOM LINE - at the end of the day - we have absolutely not idea what is really going to happen on the day of the draft. ANYTHING can happen. For all we know the Colts could take RGIII. We don't know. Regardless of what "professional" analysts say, and especially what we say - it's always a surprising and exciting event. So keep that in mind when commenting on others drafts and making your own.
Hopefully this was not too long - looking forward to reading and writing more articles in the near future
Moose (my real name)
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Peyton Manning to Denver Broncos
There it is - Manning to Broncos. Where does Tebow go? Where does Alex Smith go? Draft is slowly becoming more clear......
Matt Flynn to the Seahawks - DONE DEAL
Well looks like this changes a lot of drafts
Mock Draft 2.0 - Lots of New Stuff
Assumption - Peyton Manning goes to Denver Broncos
Assumption - Matt Flynn signs with the Miami Dolphins
Based on my consensus Big Board - you know where to find it
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Players (Heigh, Weight, 40, Bench, Arms) |
Team |
Comment |
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1 |
Andrew Luck (QB) - Stanford - (6'4'' 234lb) |
Franchise QB |
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2 |
Robert Griffin III (QB) - Baylor - (6'2'' 218lb) |
Franchise QB |
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3 |
Matt Kalil (OT) - USC - (6'7'' 306lb, 4.99, 30, 34.25) |
Protect Franchise QB |
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4 |
Trent Richardson (RB) - Alabama (5'11'' 224lb) |
Best friend for McCoy, Lost Hillis |
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5 |
Morris Claiborne (CB) - LSU (5'11'' 188lb, 4.47) |
Tampa Bay Bucs |
Secondary help |
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6 |
Justin Blackmon (WR) - Oklahoma St. (6'1'' 211lb) |
Bradford gets a weapon |
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7 |
Melvin Ingram (DE/OLB) - South Carolina (6'1'' 264lb, 4.66, 28, 31.5) |
Pressure Locker, Schaub, Luck |
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8 |
Riley Reiff (OT) - Iowa (6'6'' 313lb, 5.23, 23, 33.25) |
Miami Dolphins |
Will sign Flynn, protect his right side |
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9 |
Dontari Poe (DT) - Memphis (6'4'' 346, 4.87, 44, 32) |
Big man plugs a hole |
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10 |
Cordy Glenn (OT) - Georgia (6'5'' 345lb, 5.15, 31, 35.75) |
Will loose Bell, NEED to protect Fitz, Fits Nix OL type |
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11 |
David DeCastro (G) - Stanford (6'5'' 316lb, 5.43, 34, 32.4) |
Running team - need OL to make holes |
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12 |
Ryan Tannehill (QB) - Texas A&M (6'4'' 221lb) |
Possible Franchise QB? |
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13 |
Jonathan Martin (OT) - Stanford (6'5'' 312lb, 34inch) |
Protect Franchise QB |
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14 |
Quinton Coples (DE) - UNC (6'6'' 281lb, 4.72, 25, 33.25) |
BPA & upgrade D-line & opposite Demarcus Ware |
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15 |
Luke Kuechley (ILB) - BC (6'3'' 242lb, 4.50, 27, 31) |
Makes too much sense |
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16 |
Michael Floyd (WR) - Notre Dame (6'3'' 220lb, 4.47) |
Plex gone. Re-signed Sanchez - give him big weapon |
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17 |
Janoris Jenkins (CB) - North Alabama (5'10'' 193lb, 4.44) |
JJ better than Dre, need upgrade in secondary |
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18 |
Mike Adams (OT) - Ohio St. (6'7'' 323lb) |
O-line is still a mess |
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19 |
Michael Brockers (DT) - LSU (6'5'' 322lb, 5.33, 19, 35) |
BPA & upgrade D-line |
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20 |
Whitney Mercilus (DE) - Illinois (6'4'' 261lb, 4.63, 27, 33.8) |
Lost on Mario Williams, improve pass rush |
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21 |
Mark Barron (SS) - Alabama (6'1'' 213lb, 33.5) |
Cincinnati Bengals |
Don't need to reach for RB, improve secondary, BPA |
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22 |
Kendall Wright (WR) - Baylor (5'10'' 196lb, 4.61) |
Cleveland Browns |
Need weapon for McCoy |
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23 |
Dre Kirkpatrick (CB) - Alabama (6'2'' 186lb, 4.43) |
Improve secondary & BPA |
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24 |
Donta Hightower (ILB) - Alabama (6'2'' 265lb) |
Farrior successor nxt pick to replace Wallace |
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25 |
Stephen Hill (WR) - Georgia Tech (6'4'' 215lb, 4.36) |
Pittsburgh Steelers |
Trade - Broncos Trade pick to Steelers for Mike Wallace |
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26 |
Courtney Upshaw (DE/OLB) - Alabama (6'2'' 272lb, 22, 32) |
BPA, Replaces MW, Receiver later |
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27 |
Fletcher Cox (DT) - Mississippi St. (6'4'' 298lb, 4.79, 26, 34.5) |
New England Patriots |
BPA & upgrade D-line |
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28 |
Devon Still (DT) - Penn St. (6'5'' 303lb, 5.00, 26, 33.25) |
BPA & upgrade D-line |
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29 |
Peter Konz (C.) - Wisconsin (6'5'' 314lb, 18, 33) |
O-line is still a mess, succesor for Birk |
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30 |
Nick Perry (DE/OLB) - USC (6'3'' 271lb, 4.50, 35, 33) |
Defensive team, BPA, scarier defense |
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31 |
Andre Branch (DE/OLB) - Clemson (6'4'' 259lb, 4.62, 34inch) |
New England Patriots |
Upgrade a poor pass rush |
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32 |
Coby Fleener (TE) - Stanford (6'6'' 247lb) |
Lost Manningham & TE to injury |
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Where Does Peyton Go? - GAME OVER - Peyton Manning to Broncos
You can see earlier post below
But there it is folks - Peyton Manning to the Denver Broncos. What do you think?
Where does Tim Tebow land?
Where does Alex Smith go?
What are the 49ers and Miami Dolphins to do?
One thing for sure - the Draft picture is becoming more clear.
I think the 49ers will get Alex Smith back. Miami will be in a pickle - they have to get Tannehill, although I do like Matt Moore
Where does Tebow go? Few thoughts - Buffalo, Jacksonville, Miami, Cleveland
Manning's decision is almost here - a decision that will affect 3 organizations....
Where do you think he will go?
- 49ers: I think this is by far the best situation for him. Everything is in place for him in SF - the team is SB caliber. However - the issue is - 1 The Manning's apparently don't want Peyton to be in the NFC. And 2 - Although the 49ers were the firsts to work him out - Manning never went to SF to check out the facility.
- Titans: Tennessee is Manning's home. The owner loves Manning. Jake Locker is there - but he can learn from Manning. The Team is pretty good - good defense, good offensive line, plenty of weapons - and the familiarity of the AFC South. However in the three teams to get Manning - this one has the weakest roster.
- Broncos: Seams as though the Broncos have been giving the greatest effort in attaining Manning's services. I think he is a GREAT fit. Tebow could be traded if he goes there. However the weather is a big negative issue.
Ultimately - I'd like to see Manning team up with Haurbaugh w the 49ers but I think he will go to Denver.
What do the rest of you think?
Also will have an updated MOCK and BIG BOARD later in the week.
NFL Draft Trades......What's the word around the league?
Lets talk about draft trades.
I put all my thoughts in bullet format - curious to hear what everyone else has been hearing around the league
Starting from top moving down specifically first round
- According to a recent tweet - Jaguars could move down from #7 for people interested in Tannehill
- Buffalo Bills have filled their need at DE & not sure anyone fits for them @10. Bills could move down from #10 for someone interested in Tannehill
- Seattle Seahawks lost out on Manning and possibly Flynn. Seahawks could move up from #12 for Tannehil
- Cincinnati Bengals have fire power with the 17th and 21st overall picks. The Bengals could stay put, move up, or move down depending on who they like and what other teams are offering. They have plenty of flexibility.
- The Cleveland Browns may not land Matt Flynn, and turn the reigns back over to Colt McCoy or the Browns could move up from #22 to grab Tannehil. They could also move down if they like some other QB - if QB is their target.
- The New England Patriots are always players in moving around the draft - as they do every year. They could move up if they really like someone. They could sit pat. They could move down. No one ever knows what they will do but they will trade picks.
- Teams that are targeting a wide receiver. New York Jets at 16, Possibly Bengals at 17 or 21, Broncos at 25 if Peyton Manning signs, Patriots at 27 or 31, 49ers at 30 if Peyton Manning signs........
MEGA DEAL - Redskins trade 3 firsts and a second for Rams 2nd overall
RGIII is worth too much
Redskins trade 3-firsts and a second for Rams 2nd overall
RGIII is worth alot
Forget Mario Williams - I want Dwight Freeney - A Comparison
I love Mario Williams. I think he is absolutely amazing. But I think he may be a tad expensive right now - especially in guaranteed money. Also his production
The Colts are cleaning shop. They are listening to offers for Dwight Freeney. I would think they may be looking for anything from a low 1st to a high 3rd. Not really sure how GMs are feeling. We have the 9th pick in the second round. That pick is MORE THAN WORTH Dwight Freeney.
Freeney is in his 10th season - and is arguably the best 4-3 Defensive End in the NFL
He will be in the fall of fame one day.
COMPARING FREENEY AND WILLIAMS FIRST 6 SEASON IN THE NFL
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Dwight Freeney |
Mario Williams |
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Heigh |
6'1'' |
6'6'' |
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Weight |
268lb |
283lb |
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Age |
32 |
27 |
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College |
Syracuse |
NC St. |
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Games played |
88/96 - miss 8 |
82/96 - miss 14 |
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Solo Tackles |
171 |
192 |
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Sacks |
60 |
53 |
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Sacks most recent yr |
8.5 |
5 |
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Pass Deflections |
11 |
10 |
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Force Fumbles |
31 |
11 |
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Acquisition |
Trade |
Free Agency |
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Cost |
Due 14 mil in 2012 |
Unknown bt J. Pepper signed a 90mil contract w 40 guaranteed |
Financially speaking It's clear that Williams will be more expensive. If we trade a second round pick for Freeney and than restructure his contract to a 3 yr contract - that would be great. Otherwise we would have him for a year @ $14,000,000
He's healthy - he is productive - I salivate over possibly attaining him. Have you seen how many fumbles he has forced? Could you imagine how many fumbles he would force with his skills AND the Buffalo weather. *Drooling*
What think you fellow Rumblers?
I WANT A PASS RUSH PLEASE!
OO also check out this article - Who is Tom Brady's Defensive Idol? Dwight freeney - Brady's defensive idol
Consensus (Average) Positional Rankings
Based on my Power Rankings:
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QB |
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Andrew Luck (QB) - Stanford |
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Robert Griffin III (QB) - Baylor |
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Ryan Tannehill (QB) - Texas A&M |
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Brandon Weeden (QB) - Oklahoma St. |
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Brock Osweiler (QB) - Arizona St. |
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Nick Foles (QB) - Arizona |
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Kirk Cousins (QB) - Michigan St. |
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Ryan Lindley (QB) - San Diego St. |
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Russell Wilson (QB) - Wisconsin |
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RB |
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Trent Richardson (RB) - Alabama |
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Lamar Miller (RB) - Miami |
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David Wilson (RB) - Virginia Tech |
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Doug Martin (RB) - Boise St. |
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LaMichael James (RB) - Oregon |
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Chris Polk (RB) - Washington |
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Cyrus Gray (RB) - Texas AM |
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Bernard Pierce (RB) - Temple |
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Isaiah Pead (RB) - Cincinnati |
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Ronnie Hillman (RB) - San Diego St. |
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Chris Rainey (RB) - Florida |
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Tauren Poole (RB) - Tennessee |
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Robert Turbin (RB) - Utah St. |
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WR |
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Justin Blackmon (WR) - Oklahoma St. |
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Michael Floyd (WR) - Notre Dame |
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Kendall Wright (WR) - Baylor |
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Stephen Hill (WR) - Georgia Tech |
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Rueben Randle (WR) - LSU |
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Alshon Jeffery (WR) - South Carolina |
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Mohamed Sanu (WR) - Rutgers |
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Chris Givens (WR) - Wake Forest |
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A.J. Jenkins (WR) - Illinois |
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Juron Criner (WR) - Arizona |
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Nick Toon (WR) - Wisconsin |
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Dwight Jones (WR) - UNC |
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Marvin Jones (WR) - California |
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Joe Adams (WR/KR) - Arkansas |
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Brian Quick (WR) - Appalachian St. |
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Marvin McNutt (WR) - Iowa |
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Tommy Streeter (WR) - Miami |
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Gerell Robinson (WR) - Arizona St. |
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Ryan Broyles (WR) - Oklahoma |
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Jordan White (WR) - Western Michigan |
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Tim Benford (WR) - Tennessee Tech |
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DeVier Posey (WR) - Ohio St. |
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Jeff Fuller (WR) - Texas AM |
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TE |
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Dwayne Allen (TE) - Clemson |
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Coby Fleener (TE) - Stanford |
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Orson Charles (TE) - Georgia |
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Ladarius Green (TE) - La-Lafayette |
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Michael Egnew (TE) - Missouri |
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David Paulson (TE) - Oregon |
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OT |
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Matt Kalil (OT) - USC |
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Riley Reiff (OT) - Iowa |
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Jonathan Martin (OT) - Stanford |
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Cordy Glenn (OT) - Georgia |
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Mike Adams (OT) - Ohio St. |
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Kelechi Osemele (OT/OG) - Iowa St. |
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Zebrie Sanders (OT) - Florida St. |
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Andrew Datko (OT) - Florida State |
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Mitchell Schwartz (OT) - California |
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Bobby Massie (OT) - Mississippi |
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Brandon Mosley (OT) - Auburn |
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Donald Stephenson (OT) - Oklahoma |
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Matt McCants (OT) - UAB |
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Tony Bergstrom (OT) - Utah |
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Jeff Allen (OT) - Illinois |
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Nate Potter (OT) - Boise St. |
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Levy Adcock (OT) - Oklahoma St. |
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Matt Reynolds (OT) - BYU |
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OG |
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David DeCastro (G) - Stanford |
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Kevin Zeitler (G) - Wisconsin |
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Brandon Washington (G) - Miami |
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Amini Silatolu (OG) - Midwestern St. |
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Brandon Brooks (OG) - Miami Ohio |
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James Brown (OG) - Troy |
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Senio Kelemete (OG) - Washington |
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Lucas Nix (OG) - Pittsburgh |
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Josh LeRibeus (OG) - Southern Methodist |
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Ryan Miller (G) - Colorado |
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Will Blackwell (G) - LSU |
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Center |
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Peter Konz (C.) - Wisconsin |
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Ben Jones (C.) - Georgia |
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Michael Brewster (C.) - Ohio St. |
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Philip Blake (C.) - Baylor |
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William Vlachos (C.) - Alabama |
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DT |
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Michael Brockers (DT) - LSU |
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Devon Still (DT) - Penn St. |
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Fletcher Cox (DT) - Mississippi St. |
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Dontari Poe (DT) - Memphis |
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Jerel Worthy (DT) - Michigan St. |
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Brandon Thompson (DT) - Clemson |
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Kendall Reyes (DT) - Connecticut |
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Alameda Ta'amu (DT) - Washington |
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Derek Wolfe (DT/DE) - Cincinnati |
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Mike Martin (DT) - Michigan |
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Marcus Forston (DT) - Miami Fl. |
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Kheeston Randall (DT) - Texas |
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DaJohn Harris (DT) - USC |
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Josh Chapman (NT) - Alabama |
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Travian Robertson (DT) - South Carolina |
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Logan Harrell (DT) - Fresno St. |
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Tydreke Powell (DT) - North Carolina |
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DE |
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Quinton Coples (DE) - UNC |
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Melvin Ingram (DE) - South Carolina |
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Courtney Upshaw (DE/OLB) - Alabama |
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Nick Perry (DE/OLB) - USC |
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Whitney Mercilus (DE) - Illinois |
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Andre Branch (DE) - Clemson |
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Vinny Curry (DE/OLB) - Marshall |
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Jared Crick (DE) - Nebraska |
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Chandler Jones (DE) - Syracuse |
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Billy Winn (DE) - Boise St. |
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Cam Johnson (DE) - Virginia |
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Tyrone Crawford (DE) - Boise St. |
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Trevor Guyton (DE) - California |
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Jonathan Massaquoi (OLB/DE) - Troy |
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Frank Alexander (DE) - Oklahoma |
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Julian Miller (DE) - West Virginia |
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Brandon Lindsey (DE/OLB) - Pittsburgh |
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OLB |
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Zach Brown (OLB) - UNC |
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Lavonte David (OLB) - Nebraska |
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Ronnell Lewis (OLB/DE) - Oklahoma |
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Bobby Wagner (OLB) - Utah St. |
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Shea McClellin (OLB) - Nebraska |
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Bruce Irvin (OLB) - West Virginia |
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Sean Spence (OLB) - Miami |
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Nigel Bradham (OLB) - Florida St. |
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Keenan Robinson (LB) - Texas |
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Travis Lewis (OLB) - Oklahoma |
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Josh Kaddu (OLB) - Oregon |
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Demario Davis (OLB) - Arkansas St. |
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Mychal Kendricks (LB) - California |
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Kyle Wilber (OLB) - Wake Forest |
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Emmanuel Acho (OLB) - Texas |
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Jerry Franklin (OLB) - Arkansas |
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Danny Trevathan (OLB) - Kentucky |
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Terrell Manning (OLB) - North Carolina St. |
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ILB |
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Luke Kuechley (ILB) - BC |
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Donta Hightower (ILB) - Alabama |
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Vontaze Burfict (ILB) - Arizona St. |
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Audie Cole (LB) - North Carolina St. |
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Tank Carder (ILB) - TCU |
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CB |
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Morris Claiborne (CB) - LSU |
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Dre Kirkpatrick (CB) - Alabama |
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Janoris Jenkins (CB) - North Alabama |
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Stephon Gilmore (CB) South Carolina |
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Alfonzo Dennard (CB) - Nebraska |
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Brandon Boykin (CB) - Georgia |
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Jayron Hosley (CB) - Virginia Tech |
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Brandon Boykin (CB) - Georgia |
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Chase Minnifield (CB) - Virginia |
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Casey Hayward (CB) - Vanderbilt |
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Jamell Fleming (CB) - Oklahoma |
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Leonard Johnson (CB) - Iowa St. |
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Josh Robinson (CB) - Central Florida |
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Trumaine Johnson (CB) - Montana |
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Dwight Bentley (CB) - LA-Lafayette |
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Josh Norman (CB) - Coast Carolina |
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Trevin Wade (CB) - Arizona |
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Omar Bolden (CB) - Arizona St. |
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DeQuan Menzie (CB) - Alabama |
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Donnie Fletcher (CB) - BC |
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Coryell Judie (CB) - Texas AM |
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Cliff Harris (CB) - Oregon |
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S |
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Mark Barron (SS) - Alabama |
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Harrison Smith (SS) - Notre Dame |
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Markelle Martin (FS) - Oklahoma St. |
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George Iloka (SS) - Boise St. |
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Antonio Allen (SS) - South Carolina |
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Trent Robinson (S) - Michigan St. |
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Aaron Henry (FS) - Wisconsin |
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Winston Guy Jr. (S) - Kentucky |
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Post Combine Consensus (Average) Big Board - huge updates
Please rec - helps others make their Mock Drafts!
Following big boards were used:
Walter Football, Draft breakdown, Draft Insider, NFL - Brandt, NFL - Brooks, CBS - Rang, CBS - Sports Exchange, CBS - Prisco, SI - Tony Pauline, Scout, Scouts Inc, Mel Kiper, Scott Wright, NFP Wes Bunting, MTD. (15)
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10th pick - and NO its not a DE (Cut down to 5 possibilities)
I think we recent remarks by Buddy Nix, and articles published by Brian, it can be safe to say that the Buffalo Bills will not draft a DE with their 10th pick. I have made a list of players who I believe can be possible targets for the Bills. Lets Also look at positions and if those Positions require an upgrade.
PROBABLY NOT:
QB, RB (Although you never know with NIx haha), DE (Because of recent remarks), DT/NT (Williams comes back healthy, we drafted Dareus, & have excellent at this position), Safety (No one good enough at this point, and happy with Jarius and company), OLB (Also because of recent remarks, and the confidence the team has in current group), TE (No one good enough this early)
Who does this Eliminate?
- RGIII (QB) - Baylor: Nix is not interested in trading for him
- Quinton Couples (DE) - UNC: Because of recent remarks
- Melvin Ingram (DE) - South Carolina - Because of recent remarks
- Courtney Upshaw (DE) - Alabama - Because of recent remarks
- Dontari Pie (NT) - Memphis - I've seen a few people mock him to the Bills. No way I see this happening. We got Marcell Dareus last year and have significant depth at the position. No way.
- Nick Perry (DE/OLB) - USC: This would have been my favorite selection but i'll have to continue with "because of recent remarks"
- Luke Kuechley (ILB) - BC: I love this guy - but the team is very high on Kelvin Sheppard at MLB
- Whitney Mercilus (DE) - Illinois: Too early for him, regardless if the team is high on him.
- Michael Brockers (DT) - LSU: Like I said we have depth and Dareus
- Trent Richardson (RB) - Alabama: Spiller, Jackson
Possibly:
- OT/OG: Buddy Nick has discussed on several occasions the lack of depth and talent we have on the offensive line. There are some good offensive lineman available at the top of the 1st.
- WR: We will sign or franchise Stevie Johnson, but he needs help on the other side to get some pressure off of him. WR is a real possibility.
- CB: Our defensive backs are weak. McGee is coming back from injury. McKelvin is just God awful. Florence is ok. Aaron Wiliams is a rising star. The team showed interest in Routt but he went over to KC.
Whose left? (In order of ranking according to my Big Board Consensus Big Board) (Cross out means player will not be available)
Matt Kalil (OT) - USC:Matt Kalil will most probably be taken by the Vikings at #3. But he will NOT last to 10.Morris Claiborne (CB) - LSU:The consensus top CB in the draft will be a hot entity. The Rams, Vikings, Bucs, Redskins could all use an upgrade at that position. Claiborne will not be available for us.Justin Blackmon (WR) - Oklahoma St.: The consensus top WR in the class is drawing comparisons to a young TO. The Rams are very interested. Blackmon is a top 5 pick, and will not be available for us to draft.
The next 5 are possibilities for the Bills- David DeCastro (G) - Stanford: David DeCastro is drawing comparisons to Steve Huchinson of the Seahawks. He is the prototype LG. He is also athletic enough to play RT. We have depth issues on the offensive line. I am very content with Levitre but doesn't be there isn't a place for Castro to play.
- Riley Reiff (OT) - Iowa: Reiff was at one point rated the same level as Kalil by Mike Mayock. But that quickly changed. Reiff is an excellent, polished, talented, OT prospect. He can play both LT and RT.
- Dre Kirkpatrick (CB) - Alabama: Kirkpatrick is a talented cover corned who has the size to cover the bigger receivers in the NFL. He has good tape - but has a few lingering issues that need to be resolved. We will know more after his pro-day
- Jonathan Martin (OT) - Stanford OR Cordy Glenn (OT) Georgia: I put both players here because both are considered below top 10 on the big board. Martin is more of a finesse OT who lacks strength, making up for it with his technique and athleticism. Glenn is the complete opposite, and is moving up draft boards because he is strong.
- Michael Floyd (WR) - Notre Dame: Floyd is large, athletic, talented, fast, and special. He dominated during his college tenure at Notre Dame even with out stability at the QB position. He would be the perfect compliment to Stevie Johnson. He is moving up draft boards and could be a real possibility for the Bills at #10
THE PICK: With the 10th overall pick in the 2012 NFL draft, the Buffalo Bills will select Michael Floyd (WR) - Notre Dame: 6'3'' 220 lbs ran 40 in 4.47. Tape is impressive. Great for the offense.
The Pick: I think with the 10th overall pick in the 2012 NFL Draft, the Buffalo Bills will select Riley Reiff (OT) - Iowa. Reiff stands at 6'6'' 313lbs. He ran the 40 in 5.23 with 23 in BP. His arms measured in at 33.25 inches. Scouts like his tape and overall ability. Most have him ranked somewhere in the top 10 of their big board. We have depth issues on the offensive line. Even if Bell is signed, he cannot remain healthy. We also need an upgrade in talent at RT. Reiff makes sense for the Bills moving forward.........
MY WISH LIST
Of course this doesn't necessarily mean what I want - just came to the conclusion based on recent comments. My wish list is different - and considers which player will be available at #10. Ranked in order of desire.
- Nick Perry (DE/OLB) - USC
- Melvin Ingram (DE) - South Carolina
- Luke Kuelichly (LB) - BC
- Quinton Couples (DE) - North Carolina
- Courtney Upshaw (DE) - Alabama
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The Inevitable Question (Luck vs. Newton)
I HAVE HAVE HAVE to ask this question because its bugging me
What if Andrew Luck did not stay for his senior year.
Would you rather take Andrew Luck or Cam Newton in last years draft.
OK say lets forget that. Say you are a GM/Owner of a team. You are starting a franchise - would you rather take Andrew Luck or Cam Newton.
Given both their bodies of work?
Who will have a better career?
Who is better?
What kind of offense do you want to run?
What does everyone think?
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