Those of you who have known me commenting here for the last several years might have noticed that I only have very good things to say about Blogging the Boys, our rival site here at SBN. I've always been treated well by their fans, who participate in droves and are very knowledgeable and love to talk some football.

Today, my admiration for that site grew exponentially when I read this fanpost by one of their community members.

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It doesn't look like this is going to happen due to lack of interest. I'll leave the post up another couple days.

I don't have the attention span for the mainstream mock right now! The purpose of this post is exclusively to recruit GMs.

This thread should be used almost exclusively to make claims for teams. Preference will be given to longstanding members and very active members, so please put your ideal team in the subject line, and any alternatives underneath that, should you get bumped.

Once we have determined who our GMs are, we will have a quick discussion of rules and parameters. I would like to minimize trades as much as possible, however if there is a very compelling case we might go for it. I would like to get this done in a half a day, ideally. 5-10 minutes per person, blah blah blah.

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After considering your input, I have narrowed my possibilities for the Cowboys at #14. I have divided them into two tiers: Guys who are universally projected to go by #15, and guys a little outside that who could offer great potential.

Tier I:

OL: David DeCastro, Riley Reiff, Jon Martin.

My question to you is, with Reiff and Martin projecting top 10, yet the Cowboys apparently very well stacked at OT, is there any way they take another T? (I cannot trade back).

LB: Luke Kuechly

DE: Quentin Coples

WR: Michael Floyd

Tier 2: Dontari Poe, Janoris Jenkins, Whitney Mercilus, Courtney Upshaw

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It was a terribly long and poorly formatted comment, so I'll try again here. An at-a-glance look at last year's BBV mock draft -- the good, the bad and the Ed Valentine!

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No, not really. If I had, I'd be on a plane to Vegas, wouldn't I? But I have watched every game by both of these teams for several years now, and honestly for the past several nights I've lied in bed thinking about this game!

I'm no pro with Xs and Os. These are just a handful of my predictions about various aspects of the game, and how things could turn out.

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After any big Giants win, I make sure to not only devour every morsel of of news and notes here at BBV, but also the anguished cries of the damned.

Below you will find the best of Bleeding Green Envy's game thread. Disclaimer: I don't support trolling and senseless fighting. I think it's great to read, that's all. Now you can read it here, without even going there! So, here it is: The Good, The Bad, and the Ugly!

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First of all, here is the link to the April, 2010 archives which include the Jason Pierre-Paul pick on April 22.

There are several articles about the pick but the best one is the real-time reaction

I remember hating the pick, so I'm relieved to see I wasn't hysterical about it. Here was my reaction:

JPP, whatever

may be good, may never start a game.

The reason I’m disappointed here is because we really could have used a bolstering of the O-Line with clear, safe bets like Bulaga or Iupati.

Our offense started turning good this year, but this O-Line is getting old and isn’t going to make it through this year uninjured again. The value was absolutely there — I can’t BELIEVE the Pack got Bulaga in the late 20s! — and it was an area of need.

I think the Giants really dropped the ball here by going project at an overstocked position when there is clear value and low bust potential in an area of need. Behind a stronger, younger O-Line, this offense could really start to open up — and the run game would improve, too.

I generously give this pick a D. Even if JPP turns into an all-pro, it can’t get better than a B. Because we really passed up a clear, obvious opportunity to improve the O-Line, which really needs it.

by Simms-McConkey on Apr 23, 2010 6:30 AM

and,

“Haitian Sensation” … I’ll keep my fingers crossed to be hearing that from my television… in 2011 …

So, I was right about the O-line but wrong about the grade. If only I had shut up sooner!

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Hate to disagree with the fearless leader, but I did the math weeks ago.

To win the division, the Giants have to sweep the Cowboys on their way to winning four more.

2 wins vs. Cowboys + 2 other wins (ANY 2!) = we win the division. Period.

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(thanks for the forum, apologies for the draftish nature)

What BBV has taught me:

I started coming here in 2008, AFTER the Giants had won the Superbowl. A real bandwagon jumper: I had stayed up to watch XXI by myself at age 9 and fallen in love with the Giants, watched alone again for wide right, finally had a huge obnoxious mocking crowd for XXXV ... I remember Jim Burt, and Carl Banks, and Landeta, and 15-13.

I came here in 2008 because of the uber-dominance of the Internet and the fact that Youtube and every newspaper in the world simply could not feed me enough recaps of what the Giants had just done. I came here because it's the best damn Giants site on the web.

BBV has changed me from a fan who started in week 1 to a fan who watches mock drafts. From a fan who knew the stars to a fan who knows the OL depth chart. Now, when I think about serious fandom, it's now "Do you know who your OC & DC are?" It's do you know where they came from, and what their strengths and weaknesses are?"

BBV has taught me that I, a drunken fanatic, actually do NOT know more than a trained professional who spends 80, not (7?) a handful of hours a week thinking about it. BBV has taught me not to be a knee-jerk, lynch-mob, troll.

BBV has broadened the depth of my knowledge thanks to fanposts (12 or 21 personnel, anyone? God I miss that fuckin column) and the perspectives available.

BBV has brought me from a typical fan to a true die-hard. I start with mock-drafts, I keep my eye OFF the ball, I check the injury reports, I know what's happening and why as best as a fan can. Thanks to BBV.

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1. The Eagles will be a better team without Vick at the Helm.

The Eagles showed that Vince is #2 on their depth chart against the Cardinals. His presence means the Eagles will go with a run-heavy attack on Sunday, which is exactly what their players and fans have been clamoring for all season. Young is not exactly a stick in the mud when it comes to mobility either, so it's not like the Giants can just abandon their QB spy for the day. Despite what anybody says, Vince has played at at NFL starter quality level before, and there's no reason to think he can't on Sunday.

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I learned a lot of things in the first quarter from a bunch of people I've never seen here before in the game thread.

I'd just like to run through those things real quick, because I thought I had learned a lot of things here in the last three years but I was clearly living in a dream (team - ha!) world.

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I can't help but feel like the Giants are set up for being a competitive team for years to come when I look at this roster. What follows after the jump is a look at some of the guys we have or have on IR, what their contract status is, and generally how our depth chart might look next year. I did NOT take into account several things you guys might have insight into: possible holdouts & renegotiations, salary cap, or even the draft, etc. But the point is, if the Giants draft well again next year, they might be cutting / losing 10 NFL-starter quality guys just to make 53.

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My wife (Pats fan -- a real one) and I are going to be at the game Sunday. The purpose of this post is to find out who from this site is planning on attending the game, and to find out if we can coordinate a way to get together to tailgate.
We have reserved a room at the nearby Red Roof Inn and we will be checking in before going to tailgate as early as possible. The Red Roof Inn is in Mansfield MA only 2.6 miles away. Basically it's ON the main strip that gets clogged going into games. 2.6 miles away, and only a little bit on the other side of the highway onramp. So that would be a great meeting point so we can form a caravan and park near each other.

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Schadenfreude: Pleasure derived from another's misfortune

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Didn't like:

Our inability to stop the run. While Washington and St. Louis shredded our secondary, I thought our run defense was stout. Against Philly, our DB play was a key factor and running was IIRC, average (you do the research). In this game, Beanie Wells did very well. I didn't have that feeling of being more comfortable in 3rd and 3 than in 3rd and 14. His total yds were 138 with a 5.1 YPC with a  team total of 154. Solid running numbers for AZ. I'd like to keep teams under 100, obviously, but overall it was the right gameplan to win ... they only burned us deep once (LF) leading to a TD.

Our O-line play. Boothe was disastrous. Adam Koets, where art thou? Don't believe for a minute AB and BJ had a bad game (although I would have liked to see more BJ). There were no holes. The Giants carried the ball 21 times for 57 yards. Not "Giants football." Does that comment mean that Coughlin & Gilbride are dynamic and current while I am an inflexible old codger?

I am 12-2 in my money pool right now. Cincy and San Fran. And that's like 13-1 for a Giants fan.

Liked:

Eli (aka passing game). I wanted the team to lean on the pass. That's a first for stodgy old me. I wanted Eli to be the best player on the field and dictate the game. He did. Tito, here's to you. And it's a pattern this year. 8 TDs 2 INTs, 105 rating. He's making smart decisions based perhaps on his receiving corps. Can't speak to the coverage schemes but Nicks put up yards, Ham was noticeable. Ballard > Beckum.

Oh, and Victor Cruz : > SS12

Justin Tuck. Dude was a factor out of pads. That's a leader. So was Dave Tollefson, who I might want to trade to AZ for a 1st-round pick and Patrick Peterson.

Coaching. Play-calling on both sides, game management, scoring decisions, everything. This is a smart, principled staff.

Weatherford. I associate him with the ST improvement.

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I don't know what happened to the guy who did week 1, but I was getting antsy so I took an hour to put this together.

1. I don't want to do this every week. Can any long-established regular step up and make the commitment?

2. PLEASE go back and check your tally against what I have posted here.

11 - LostinJersey, jcalafiore, sv1031

10 - BrooksBridges11, Master Ov Brutality, 1GiantLion, DaddyZander, FreeBradshaw

9 - Larry Soprano, brisulph, Troy O., Wangstu, just J., Amsterdam Admirals, Semsemma, PlaxicoBurress

8 - WillGFass, Tito, Simms-McConkey, Giantsfan4life,Giants56, NetsAreBoss, TelcoChik

7 - tommy d., GiantRB27, J-man, Maculis, BloodOfEli, njGiant

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My wife's father is a New England Patriots season ticket holder since 1980. He sends my wife and I to a game every year, and this year, yep, he was kind enough to send us to a game that could end in our divorce -- Giants vs. Pats. My wife'll be wearing a Brady Jersey & I'll be in Strahan. (Maybe later that night we can recreate the Superbowl sack montage).

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Jerry Jones defeated Michael Vick's dog-killing, 15-11

Scott Green defeated "America's Team," 14-12

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Here are the results for the previous round:

Jerry Jones DEF. Buck & Aikman, 14-10

"America's Team" DEF. Commercial-Kickoff-Commercial, 14-10

Scott Green DEF. Fake LT, 20-4

Michael Vick's dog killing DEF. Dallas, Philly, & Jets fans, 13-9 (2 abstentions)

I think Scott Green got a huge bounce from the write-ups -- not that the write-up was inflammatory, but it's easy to forget how bad & wrong that call was, and to see even Tagliabue admit it ... Jerry Jones has long been a favorite, as has Vick. It looks to be a good (and by that I mean vile) Foul Four.

I'm sorry the update has taken a while. I got laid off from my job and I'm actually finishing this from the library, which makes me feel like a dweeb. But seeing these awful things make me realize being on unemployment isn't the worst thing in the world...

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We've narrowed the field down to 8 awful things, a short enough list for me to include some information on each.

Here are the results for the Sour Sixteen:

Joe Buck & Troy Aikman DEF. Tom Quinn, 11-9

Commercial-Kickoff-Commercial def. The Linc Experience, 17-3

Jan 5., 2003 referee DEF. Black-Eyed Peas Halftime show, 15-5

Michael Vick's dog-killing DEF. "Careless disregard for the football," 14-6

Cowgirls, Eggs, Jest fans DEF. Sharing Giants Stadium, 10-10 (coin flip tiebreaker)

Ladainian "Fake LT" DEF. '86 Giants not on greatest teams lists, 15-5 (smh)

Dallas' "America's Team" moniker DEF. Superbowl XXXV 17-3 (XXXV = 2nd-worst sports day of my life)

Jerry Jones DEF. GB fans Superbowl shafting, 17-3

So Dallas is picking up some momentum here! The Ugly Eight matchups are below:

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Here are the results and your 16 finalists for the absolute worst thing in the NFL:

1. The Linc experience DEF. Counting players out after an injury (13-7)

2. Jan. 5, 2003 SF referees DEF. Kevin Kolb garnering a 1st-round pick (18-2)

3. Sharing Giants Stadium DEF. Personal Seat Licenses (13-7)

4. LaDainian Tomlinson being called "LT" DEF. Flozell Adams (12-8)

5. "Careless disregard for the football" DEF. Jets fans (11-9)

6. Green Bay fans get shafted on Superbowl tix DEF. Strahan / Toomer retirements (15-5)

7. Superbowl XXXV DEF. Rex Ryan's mouth (11-9)

8. '86 Giants not on "greatest teams" lists DEF. sub -.500 playoff teams (13-7)

9. Dallas, Philly, and Jets fans DEF. fines for Legit hits (11-8)

10. Buck & Aikman DEF. Ignorant bloggers (11-8)

11. Commercial-kickoff-commercial DEF. Tiki "Anne Frank" Barber's comeback (12-7)

12. Tom Quinn DEF. Nightmare @ the Meadowlands 2010 (12-7)

13. Michael Vick's dog-killing DEF. DeSean Jackson (17-1)

14. Black-Eyed Peas halftime show DEF. Stadium beer prices (10-9)

15.  Jerry Jones DEF. "Remember folks, our yellow line in unofficial" (15-4)

16. Dallas' "America's Team" moniker DEF. Rex Ryan's obesity (18-1)

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Thanks for playing, y'all! One more bracket below, then we'll really get into the nitty gritty of what the most craptacular thing in the NFL is. There were a few knocks on bracket 3, but hey, I didn't make the contestants ... anyway the results for bracket 3:

1. The Linc experience DEF. Brett Favre (14-8)

2. Jan. 5, 2003 SF officiating crew DEF. Bleeding Green Nation (20-2)

3. Sharing Giants Stadium DEF. Tom Brady (19-3)

4. Ladainian being called "LT" DEF. Games in London (20-2)

5. "Careless disregard for the football" DEF. Doubting our OL b/c of age (18-4)

6. Strahan & Toomer retirements DEF. Tom Coughlin doesn't listen to me (15-7)

7. Superbowl XXXV DEF. Bill Sheridan (13-9)

8. the '86 Giants not being on "greatest teams" lists DEF. Hall of Famer Joe Namath (16-6)

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Winners from Bracket 2:

1.  Cowboys, Jets, & Eagles "fans" DEF. The FOX dancing robot (14-6)

2. Joe Buck & Troy Aikman DEF. Brian Dawkins  (16-4)

3. Commercial-kickoff-commercial  DEF. Troy Aikman (19-1)

4. Tom Quinn DEF. Matt Dodge (20-0!!!)

5. DeSean Jackson DEF. Bad renditions of the national anthem (13-7)

6. Stadium beer prices DEF. Fans who value statistics more than Superbowls (11-8)

7. "Remember folks, our yellow line is unofficial" DEF. Jeterian (10-8)

8. Jerry Jones DEF. The NFL Network  (20-0!!!!)

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First, the bracket 1 results. The following crappy things make it to the round of 32:

1. The Black-Eyed Peas halftime show DEF. Calvin Johnson's non-TD against Bears (11-10)

2. Michael Vick's dog killing DEF. The day after the Superbowl not being a national holiday. (13-8)

3. The nightmare @ the Meadowlands 2010 DEF. Alternate & throwback Uniforms (20-1)

4. Tiki Barber's comeback DEF.  ESPN (15-5)

5. Ignorant Bloggers DEF. the "Is Eli Elite" argument (11-9)

6. Fines for legitimate hits DEF. The Darius Reynaud trade (19-2)

7. sub-.500 playoff teams DEF. TV blackouts & local priority (11-10)

8. Rex Ryan's mouth DEF. Peter King (16-5)

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[Note by Ed Valentine, 05/18/11 8:15 AM EDT : Maybe I shouldn't encourage 'Simms' not to work, but this is a good post.]

Well, I got word from my boss that his boss is concerned that I'm sneaking out of here early every day. And.... I am. SO here I am at 2:45 trying to look like I'm working. Inspired by BigBlueIntervention's team vs. team analysis of the Big East, I got the idea last night while watching the Giants beating the Cowboys in the 2007 D-round playoffs to look at what we have now vs. what we had for XLII.

I am not going to consider the Giants' recent draft very much, although a slight consideration will go to Prince and Marvin. Also, in several positions players remain. In some cases I'll call it a wash -- others, not so much. Please feel free to let me know if I've screwed up the rosters, omitted anyone, or just made a bad analysis.

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Have you guys heard of "The Hate Game"? It's been going around SBN. Basically, you list the other 31 teams and give them 31 points and then fans of your team only "kill" the teams they hate the most, one point at a time, one vote per person per day (or two votes per person -- spread the hate).

It's fun and it gives you a sense of who your team's fans hate the most -- and like the most. I encourage you to have a look at ours or one of many that have run around SBN -- Titans, Redskins, Steelers, etc... and do one yourself!

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