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25 Players : 25 Seasons, 1935-1959
by Solanus on Mar 6, 2011 10:11 PM EST
on Viva El Birdos
[READING TIME: >45 minutes - 30 pages!]
This is the second of what hopefully will be four installments of this series. The first of which was 25 Players : 25 Seasons, 1910-1934, an exercise (over a year ago) to go through the 25 teams in the era and choose one player from each year to fill all the spots on a 25-man roster.
The rules that are observed are:
1) One player must be chosen from each year, no more, no less - that means you can't skip 1988 because it sucked or pick McGee AND Tudor from 1985.
2) A player can only be chosen for the position that he played the majority of games that year - you can't claim Albert Pujols for 3B in '02 or 1B in '03.
3) The roster consists of 2 players at each position (C/1B/2B/3B/SS), six outfielders, five starters, and four relievers - you can't pick Clark AND Guerrero AND McGwire AND, uh, Jefferies at first base (dammit, I know I'm forgetting somebody).
4) A player may be only chosen for one year (and also one era) - you can't populate all six outfield slots (for the Giants) with Barry Bonds, or pick Musial in '48 AND '62.
I would ask that you please look over this roster, let me know what you think of it, and tell me where, how & why you would try to improve it. Take some time and learn about some of the history of our great franchise. I look forward to your comments.
[NOTE: I've tried my best to include as many links as possible for each player; at least those links that added something to the conversation. Common links are Wikipedia, Retrosheet, Baseball-Library (check out the Chronology page for each player), Baseball Almanac, Baseball In Wartime, the SABR Bio Project, and the official Hall of Fame website. I've also borrowed heavily from The New Bill James Historical Baseball Abstract.]
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A 30-year All-Star Team
by Solanus on Dec 8, 2010 9:22 PM EST
on Viva El Birdos
[Linking this to all 30 SBN sites] A few months back I went back 25 years for each MLB franchise and picked a legitimate 25 man roster that represented each of the previous 25 seasons, with no repeats on players and whatnot (please click on my user ID to link to the individual lists). Recently the idea of picking a 30-year All-Star team (using each of the last 30 years and all 30 teams) got stuck in my head, so I had to get it out without resorting to surgery.
Basic rules: two players at each position (six outfielder, one DH), ten pitchers with at least six starters and three relievers, plus two offensive wild cards and a utility-man (three fielding positions w/10 games minimum, one position must be 2B/SS/3B); any player can only appear on the list once (no Bonds for PIT and SFG, no Pujols as OF and 1B).
This took quite a while just to compile a list of viable candidates for each season, plus another 10 hours to sift through the mess and come out with a solid team. I welcome any criticism and encourage others to try it themselves (warning: only the obsessive/dedicated need apply). [Note to VEB readers: I'm getting close to finishing the fully-researched 1935-1959 "25 for 25" roster for St. Louis.]
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25 for 25: Twins
by Solanus on Sep 3, 2010 7:39 PM EDT
on Twinkie Town
I'm actually a St. Louis Cardinals fan, but over the past few months I've been working on a roster for each franchise in the majors, composed of players over the last 25 years. The way this works is that I pick one player from each season and I have to fill out an entire roster (for AL teams, 2 catchers, 2 infielders at each position, 5 total outfielders, one designated hitter, 5 starting pitchers, 4 relievers). I can't take more than one player for each year, I have to take one player each season even in the bad years, and I can't use the same player for multiple positions or years. If a player played the majority of his games at one position, I can't use that season for another position even if he's played it before. And I used basic minimums of 60 innings or 250 PA's (prorated for strike seasons). I primarily utilized WAR from Baseball-Reference (Fangraphs numbers only go back to 2002), WARP1 from Baseball Prospectus, Win Shares, and OPS+/ERA+ to determine season value.
The interesting part with this are the decisions that have to be made, whether it is, "Dang, there are some really nice outfielder seasons to choose from, who gets left out?", or, "Does this team even have two decent catchers in a 25-year span?", or, "This guy had so many great years - which one do I choose?" Sometimes a great year gets left out, sometimes a fluke, partial season gets tabbed for the team. I actually posted a fully researched extended version for the Cardinals from 1910 to 1934. The NL versions for this era are there as well (linky, linky, linky, linky).
You're welcome to pick apart my choices and make suggestions of your own. I'm looking forward to hearing from everybody. (NOTE: This is the last team on my list - over 300 hours into this project and I'm done. It's been fun, but it's also good to stop.)
25 for 25: Tigers edition
by Solanus on Sep 2, 2010 12:50 PM EDT
on Bless You Boys
A day late but I'll bump this to the front for discussion.
I'm actually a St. Louis Cardinals fan, but over the past few months I've been working on a roster for each franchise in the majors, composed of players over the last 25 years. The way this works is that I pick one player from each season and I have to fill out an entire roster (for AL teams, 2 catchers, 2 infielders at each position, 5 total outfielders, one designated hitter, 5 starting pitchers, 4 relievers). I can't take more than one player for each year, I have to take one player each season even in the bad years, and I can't use the same player for multiple positions or years. If a player played the majority of his games at one position, I can't use that season for another position even if he's played it before. And I used basic minimums of 60 innings or 250 PA's (prorated for strike seasons). I primarily utilized WAR from Baseball-Reference (Fangraphs numbers only go back to 2002), WARP1 from Baseball Prospectus, Win Shares, and OPS+/ERA+ to determine season value.
The interesting part with this are the decisions that have to be made, whether it is, "Dang, there are some really nice outfielder seasons to choose from, who gets left out?", or, "Does this team even have two decent catchers in a 25-year span?", or, "This guy had so many great years - which one do I choose?" Sometimes a great year gets left out, sometimes a fluke, partial season gets tabbed for the team. I actually posted a fully researched extended version for the Cardinals from 1910 to 1934. The NL versions for this era are there as well (linky, linky, linky, linky).
You're welcome to pick apart my choices and make suggestions of your own. I'm looking forward to hearing from everybody.
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25 for 25: Royals
by Solanus on Sep 1, 2010 8:47 PM EDT
on Royals Review
I'm actually a St. Louis Cardinals fan, but over the past few months I've been working on a roster for each franchise in the majors, composed of players over the last 25 years. The way this works is that I pick one player from each season and I have to fill out an entire roster (for AL teams, 2 catchers, 2 infielders at each position, 5 total outfielders, one designated hitter, 5 starting pitchers, 4 relievers)*. I can't take more than one player for each year, I have to take one player each season even in the bad years, and I can't use the same player for multiple positions or years. If a player played the majority of his games at one position, I can't use that season for another position even if he's played it before. And I used basic minimums of 60 innings or 250 PA's (prorated for strike seasons). I primarily utilized WAR from Baseball-Reference (Fangraphs numbers only go back to 2002), WARP1 from Baseball Prospectus, Win Shares, and OPS+/ERA+ to determine season value.
*Because the Royals are limited at first base (meaning that I can't move Sweeney) and the other good DH seasons are already claimed by other players, I made an exception and removed the DH slot, replacing it with a 6th outfield spot.
The interesting part with this are the decisions that have to be made, whether it is, "Dang, there are some really nice outfielder seasons to choose from, who gets left out?", or, "Does this team even have two decent catchers in a 25-year span?", or, "This guy had so many great years - which one do I choose?" Sometimes a great year gets left out, sometimes a fluke, partial season gets tabbed for the team. I actually posted a fully researched extended version for the Cardinals from 1910 to 1934. The NL versions for this era are there as well (linky, linky, linky, linky).
You're welcome to pick apart my choices and make suggestions of your own. I'm looking forward to hearing from everybody.
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