SB Nation User Blog: Spontane

Camby for...

Spontane — Tue, 12 May 2009 04:39:12 -0000

A lot of people want to move Kaman and I don't think it helps the team present and future as much as it would help them by moving Camby. Camby has a lot of trade value and is off the books after next season. With all that taken to account, I'm proposing to trade Camby for Tayshawn Prince from detroit. They don't have Rasheed Wallace next year and probably aren't looking to bring him back. Iverson is gone also. They really only have two valuable veterans on the books, T. Prince(09/10,10/11) and Rip(09/10). I think it makes sense just to blow it up for them and try to build youth with Stuckey, Afflalo, Bynum, Maxiell etc. I would even love to do camby for rip straight up if possible and have rip back up gordon. Either way I think we become better with any of those two players. I would sweeten up the pot with a 2nd rounder for Tayshawn if it came down to it. I would even throw in Minnesota's 1st rounder in there if they were playing hard ball. Tayshawn is worth it....What do you guys think??? Any other trade ideas???

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine

Alonzo Mourning??

Spontane — Tue, 29 Jul 2008 05:36:30 -0000

After the RD signing I believe we still need a C. Josh Powel is a good 3rd string pf. I think Josh is a good player but undersized to play the C position. That most likely would be our guy coming off the bench for Kaman. Jordon has a lot of potential but he is 19 and really raw. I just don't feel comfortable about our bigs experience. We have jp/dj signed don't think fazekas has excepted our offer so really that is all we have and TT. TT is good but not a center and he is already playing the back up PF min. I have always like Alonzo's game. Yes, he is old but we would only need about 12-15 min. a game from him(probably not even that much). There isn't much talent out there for the C position left. I think we should offer him the league min and see if he excepts. Depth would look like:

Davis/Hart
Mobley/Gordon
Thornton/Davis
Camby/Thomas
Kaman/Mourning

I would feel much better about our over all team with another veteran big. He is probably not the only option I heard we were talking to ellis(don't know his game but doesn't look so special). What do you guys think or who else is an option? Do we need another big?

What do we need to compete for #4 seed...

Spontane — Wed, 16 Jul 2008 05:10:15 -0000

Just a question. Wanted to know what you guys thought we are lacking to compete with the upper eshilougn(missed spelled) of the western conference. IMO I think we need to take Ryan Gomes so he could back up the Thorn and sign a veteran Center/PF as a safety net. I like our young guys but we need a veteran their to take some minutes plust if one of our 2 bigs go down for 10 games then what start Jordan?? Doesn’t sound good to me but with those position additions I think we are good to go and competing with utah/houston/phoenix.

Clippers pursuing Miller!!!

Spontane — Wed, 20 Feb 2008 02:27:18 -0000

Yahoo sports reports that the clippers are pursuing mike miller. They are offering cassel and williams for miller. The grizz want that plus our first round pick for next year. I think thats a bit too much and we should offer our second round pick. Worst comes to worst maybe even our 10/11 first round pick that we got from Minnesota. Here is the link.
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylt=Atf5_N_oqjjcFI.6D21g2c68vLYF?slug=ys-tradecountdown021808& prov=yhoo&type=lgns

Enhancing Clipper Nation Take 2

Spontane — Sat, 26 Jan 2008 02:18:24 -0000

Ok, so Atlanta Might be hesitant on taking the mobley/cassel/1st rounder/2nd rounder trade for Joe Johnson. That is a lot to move for Joe. They might think it's not worth it. If we throw in our Minnesota 1st round pick I think that deal has to happen. They might have to wait until 2011, but they would be getting so much for Joe that it already makes up for it. There is no way they can win with Johnson, might as well take the deal. They could also dump those contracts early and have a HUGE amount to spend on better players like Kobe when he opts out 09/10 season. Young team, 2 1st round picks, 2nd round pick, and Kobe would be deadly in the east. Even without Kobe the deal still looks good.

Enhancing Clipper nation

Spontane — Fri, 25 Jan 2008 04:18:41 -0000

Enhancing Clipper Nation

This is my version of fixing Clipper Nation. First off, I would like to thank Clipper Steve for clipsnation.com. I know you take a lot of time out of your schedule almost daily updating the site. I consider myself the biggest clipper fan that I know personally, but if Clipper Steve and I ever met there FINALLY might be some competition. Much respect! Now let's get down to business.....

I really don't like the way a lot of the clipper fixes are going. I think everyone is concentrating on a Maggette trade, or rid of. I don't think there is anyone in the NBA, for the price, that can do what Maggette does. I know Clipper Steve doesn't enjoy Maggette's playing style all the time, or as I can see, most the clipsnationeer's don't either. Hey, but this is my take on the Clippers. We all know that Maggette is going to opt out at the end of the season which could complicate a GM's direction of the team. We also know that Maggette IS underpaid so he will probably get a reasonable offer from someone in search for a good scorer and good rebounder (from a SF perspective). NBA teams can only offer him a five year deal and the Clippers can offer him a six year deal. I think six years is a long and strenuous contract for us to take on. I believe that NBA teams will offer him somewhere in the neighborhood of 5 year $55 million, which we will match. I believe the maximum amount anyone will and can offer him will be a 5 year $60 million deal, which we will match. The $60 million dollar deal is really high but I still believe he is worth that amount. Worst comes to worst (for him) he doesn't get any offers and we keep him for the last year of his contract and we offer him the same amounts later (the cheaper the better). Some might be wondering where I'm going with this. Well, we would have a healthy Livingston, Brand, Kaman, Maggette, and a shooting guard to battle other elite teams in the West. Obviously we need a good/great shooting guard at the 2. That is the real problem we have as a team (besides all the injuries that have happened but in which look very promising for next year). The clippers need a shooting guard and I believe the answer is Joe Johnson. His contract is pretty big but here is what I have planned out. Mobley/Cassel to Atlanta for Joe Johnson. That deal would work financially $8.4 mil + $6.15 = $14.55 mil which is a good fit to his $13.5 mil salary. The way I look at it, they pay an extra mil this year to make a deep playoff run with Sam leading the way. This deal sells CHANCE something that they don't have at a seventh seed right now vs. Detroit. The sooner this deal happens the faster they go up in standings in the East. They might be looking at a 3, 4, or 5 seed with this deal. They have a young talented squad that needs a leader. Defensively they don't loose at all at the shooting guard position or the pg because they really don't have a good starting defensive point guard anyway. I think Atlanta might not jump at this deal but if we throw in our first round draft pick for 08/09, this deal really starts to look better. I believe the mobley/cassel/1st round pick for Johnson would work for both sides. If they still don't bite we have our second round pick also. So, mobley/cassel/1st round pick/2nd round pick WORKS. Financially the 08/09 year looks like this, we take Johnson's $14.23 mil contract and they have Mobley's $9.1 mil, plus approximately $2.0 mil for the 1st rounder, plus $.7 mil for 2nd rounder which totals approximately $12 mil plus that extra $1 mil from the previous year that they paid which brings us to a total of $13 mil which is relatively close to $14.23 mil. They could and probably will offer Cassel the minimum to play one more year which will make up for the rest. Rumor has it that Atlanta did offer Cassel about a $14.5 mil 2 year deal before he took the $12 mil from the clips. So I know they like what Cassel brings. The 09/10 year looks like moblye's/$9.8, 1strounder/$2.2, 2ndrounder/$.9 for Johnson's/$14.9.

The totals look like this-

Clippers take contract worth:
07/08 -$13.49 mil
08/09- $14.23 mil
09/10-$14.98 mil
Total = $42.7

Atlanta take contracts worth:
07/08-$14.55
08/09-$14.3
09/10-$12.9
Total = $41.75

This trade works out almost perfectly for both teams financially and for both clubs future. With some very good contract manipulations this is what we would be looking like in 08/09.

Livingston-$5.81
Johnson-$14.23
Maggette-$11
Brand-$16.44
Kaman-$9.5
Knight-$2.0
Ross-$2.0
Thornton-$1.78
Thomas-$6.05
Davis-$.75
Powell-$.88
Diaz-$.88
2 players @-$.68
Total = $72 million dollars

This is slightly over the cap but I think this team is very capable of winning a championship with line ups like these:
Depth Chart-
Livingston/Knight/Diaz
Johnson/Ross/Diaz
Maggette/Thornton/Ross/Forward
Brand/Thomas/Powell
Kaman/Davis/Powell/Big
In conclusion, I think putting all the drama aside, we do have a solid core. The 2 is our weakness and has been since our deep playoff run. Actually, I would even go as far as to say Mobley's inconsistency was the main reason we lost the Phoenix series in 05/06. He has solid D but has been incredibly inconsistent since he arrived in L.A. There is many reasons why we didn't make the playoffs last year. I believe Mobley's 3-point shot was great last year but there was nothing else from his offensive game. This trade would shake up the west, but more importantly it would shake up the Pacific Division.

Who should the Clippers pick in the draft.....

Spontane — Mon, 07 May 2007 05:27:25 -0000

I believe the chance of the Clippers getting the # 1,2, or 3 pick in the draft are slim to none. So I am being realistic in my opinion of who the clippers should pick. I have been looking through all the draft picks that best suite the clips(not a big man unless 1,2, or 3 pick) and in my opinion I believe the best fit is Texas A&M's Acie Law. He creates a lot of space (50%FGP, 45.8%3PP), has experience(college senior), and also has great athleticism. I believe this is a good move just because the lack of production in the 1 spot of the clips. Does anyone have any opinion from the draft or what would be a good move for the clips???