From the FanPosts. -- TZ

This season would make a great TV series. Is Westphal good enough or has he lost the team? Does Tyreke's injury affect his play, has the NBA caught up with him or are the recently surfaced personal issues the problem? Is DeMarcus Cousins as immature as we feared or is he just the scapegoat of a really disorganized team?

Well ... I don't care for now. This FanPost's only goal is to find the relation between low team salaries and playoff appearances.

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(PART 2 added)

First of all let me say that I am European (Greek) and I confess that I never liked international basketball. I've been collecting NBA cards and stickers since I was 9 years old and I used to "watch" NBA games in text in the late 90s with a dialup connection in greater agony than any euroleague final. It's true that I'm somewhat biased -as pookie told me earlier- towards international basketball. However I still can't get rid of that feeling inside me that says "90% of the international players are busts unless they are 7feet tall so let's give them a try".

I've been critisizing Rubio a lot and I am confident that he is going to be an underachiever at best if he's picked very high. But this FanPost is not going to be an assessment of Rubio's basketball talents. I leave that to experts... although I have to say that watching John Wall's incredible mixtapes and then going back to Rubio's slow pick n rolls, in-bound steals and slow-motion drives where he can barely leave the ground... is a huge draft-buzz-killer.

So, I made a list of all the international players drafted from 2003 to 2007 just to check if my anti-international obsession has a statitistcal ground. By no means this proves anything but I don't think it will mislead either. I left the 2008 draft out since it's too early to make a valid estimation even though I believe that players like Ajinca (20th pick) and some 2nd rounders won't have a job in the NBA soon and could make my stats look better tonight. Of course there are players included in the 03-07 drafts that might decide to play in the NBA later but I really doubt if it's more than 2-3 (maybe the Brazilian Tiago Splitter?)

In order to make the stats a little more valid I left out Asian players (Yi, Sun Yue, Xue Yuyang and Ha Seung-Jin) because of the very low quality of the Chinese/Korean basketball leagues.

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After reading 214's very realistic and artistic post [edited for proper credit -- TZ], I was tempted to make a quick comparison of our core and future with the rest of the lowly NBA teams and just let my thoughts flow on the keyboard.

Martin, Hawes, Thompson, Cisco and a bit of Beno and Nocioni. This is all we have right now.

Let's see how the rest are doing.. I'll try to avoid mentioning players who are not part of a team's future or they're just not good enough to be in the radar. It's just a quick overview.

WEST:
- Oklahoma has Durant, Green, Westbrook, Krstic, Sefolosha (maybe?).
- The Grizzlies have Gay, Mayo, Conley, Gasol, Arthur, Warrick, Adriana Lima.
- The Wolves have Jefferson, Love, Foye, Telfair, Gomes, Smith + Mike Miller for 2 years..
- The Warriors have Monta, Biedrins, Randolph, Wright and veterans Maggette, Jackson (Crawford is opting out).
- The Clippers might have a collection (not a team.. a collection) of some of  the best players in the league plus some very talented youngsters. Baron, Randolph, Camby, Kaman + Al Thornton, Eric Gordon, (Taylor, Jordan?).

EAST:
- The Wizards have Butler, Jamison, Arenas, Blatche, McGee, Crittenton, Haywood (reborn).
- The Raptors still have superstar Chris Bosh, Calderon, broken out Bargnani, Graham, Ukic and the $18 million-Marion off the books this summer.
- New York has Nate, Chandler, Duhon, Lee (for now) hype, madness, D'Antoni's 130ppg, dreams for LeBron and a bunch of expiring contracts. They're in a demolishing (pre-building) period  and they're still close to the playoffs.
- The Bucks have Redd, Villanueva breaking out, Jefferson, Bogut and many question marks (Sessions?).
- New Jersey has two bright all stars Harris and Lopez (soon to be). CDR is going to be great (write it down) and Carter is on the block.
- The Pacers have the close to superstar Granger and a core of above average players: Dunleavy, Jack, Ford, Murphy, Daniels + Hibbert, Rush.
- The Bobcats managed to fight for the playoffs with Wallace :( , Okafor,  Diaw, Felton, DJ Augustin despite some really bad drafts (Morrison, May, Ajinca).


Most of the teams already have an all-star and a good young core. In my eyes... the only ones that seem to be in a worse situation (long term) than the Kings are Dunleavy's mess (Clippers), Nellie's mess (Warriors) and maybe the Raptors if Bosh leaves in 2010. Still.. all of them might be better than us next year.

Judging by our core, the present looks very inadequate. The next two drafts seem to lack superstar material unless we pick Griffin, Rubio or John Wall in 2010? Still... the chance that they'll become leading stars is not as great as it was with LeBron, Durant or Rose. So realistically speaking, things are a bit ugly in the present and future of the talent section.

However the huge X-factor in this very general analysis is not the talent but the potential signings via free agency or trading. All of this gloom can be cleared in a summer afternoon if Petrie suddenly signs Marion and Sessions with 5-7 million per year contracts (or Andre Miller and Odom) and trades Beno, Nocioni and expirings  for Bosh or Boozer (yeah right.. but you get my point).

On the one hand, I trust that Petrie will find us some good rookies in the next couple of years even if they don't become superstars. On the other hand, there's going to be a war in the FA/trading market and imo that's where the 70% of our success will be determined.Given our recent signing/trading history, I don't feel very confident. The bad contracts (K9, Moore, Beno) were enough to make our salary cap-life much more difficult and maybe prolong the rebuilding process 2-3 years.

In a few words if we take under consideration: 1) the ugly situation of our salary cap which only started to clear this season, 2) the recent bad contract history, 3) our still unproven core of talented youngsters and 4) the possibly shallow 2009-2010 drafts... I would say that the most down to earth scenario for our beloved team is that we'll be in the nowhere land for around 2-5 years. The bad thing about it is obvious, the good thing is that we'll be excited by every single point of our young guns as we'll watch them grow.

I just found this and I have to say I am split. We all loved the days where Turkoglu was in town and since then he has become a great player. He makes around 6-7 mil per year and has a player option next summer. With his performance he probably deserves 10 mil per season and when the time comes in 2009 or 2010 I don't think he will accept much less although he'll be 30-31 years old.

Orland's GM Otis Smith says "They wanted to give us their trash" so I guess a trade is out of the question but what about signing him as FA in '09 or '10? How much should the team pay him?

That was enough for me to go berserk and create the fanpost.. just thinking that there's a chance...... .:-O  (just keep cisco plz)

It came from here: http://hoopshype.com/ and here.

"Also, I heard from a very reliable source that the Sacramento Kings contacted Arenas and said they are willing to do "whatever it takes" to land his services even if they have to "trade their entire team."" Guess the Maloof brothers want to matter again." Washington Post

There goes Westbrook :( and I don't think Augustin will be available either. So.. a F/C on the way to Sacramento guys.

RealGM reports:

UCLA guard Russell Westbrook has reportedly received a promise from a team selecting high in this Thursday's draft that he will not be on the board when the Pacers pick, according to The Indianapolis Star.

The Pacers have the eleventh pick, and hoped that Westbrook would visit Indiana for a workout on Tuesday. However, he will reportedly not audition for the team because of the rumored "promise".

Players who will work out for the Kings:

- Joe Alexander, Darrell Arthur, D.J. Augustin, Nicolas Batum, Aaron Bruce, Pat Calathes, Chris Douglas-Roberts, Dion Dowell, Gary Forbes, J.R. Giddens, Roy Hibbert, J.J. Hickson, Othello Hunter, Nathan Jawai, Courtney Lee, DeMarcus Nelson, Trent Plaisted, Brandon Rush, Bill Walker, Russell Westbrook.

In case you missed it in RealGM, here is the whole 2008 NBA Player Workout List.

6 Days left for the new Kings to arrive!

Hey everyone,

I'm a Kings fan from the other side of the globe from Athens, Greece. I just read yesterday in a Greek newspaper that fellow Greek Kostas Koufos did a couple of great private workouts and his stock has gone up. He said that he has already scheduled workouts with 12 teams including Sacramento.

Today I found a link in English. In case it hasn't been mentioned before, you can check it out here.

I've been following him around the past years because he is considered a future superstar for our national team. He could be a legend in Europe, but he seems too soft for the NBA. I am sure though he can develop into a fine player and maybe start someday. However I don't think Sacto is the right place for him.