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Ginobili dunk pic
I need help finding a certain picture of Ginobili dunking. I loved this pic because it was Ginobili dunking over a Warrior player (Davis or Jackson?) lying on the ground and I liked to call it "textbook warriors defense" . I didn't come up with this caption, Stampler had a somewhat similar pic of TD that he'd posted with that caption and I stole it. Anyone have the Ginobili pic? Here's the picture of TD.
Awesome Wall Paper inspires new WP48 post
Okay, I posted a little while back about what the Spurs could expect next season from a Wins Produced (go to wages of wins for more info) perspective. Well, not much has changed roster wise since I made that post but I thought I'd do an update anyway because my new, awesome wallpaper has me so freakin' pumped. Thank you jalberto.
Allright, this time I did things a little bit differently. I took the average Wins Produced per 48 minutes (WP48, .100 is average) and the average minutes from the last 3 years for each player. I got the data from the automated wins produced site (http://www.permanent-sketch.com/WinsProduced/#/Season). Then I used these numbers to come up with expected Wins Produced for each player next year. In the case of Blair and Hill I used the years available. I also made sure that there was enough minutes at big, SF, and guard to go around and their was.
- TD - 15.42
- Manu - 12.52
- McDyess - 7.62
- Blair - 7.35 (in only 1494 minutes, ridiculous for a rookie)
- TP - 5.49
- RJ - 3.29
- Bonner - 2.35
- Hill - 2.23
- Total - 56.27
So that's 56.27 wins just from what we're carrying forward from last year. Of course, a natural question to ask would be, why didn't we win that many games last year? Well, I looked at last years WP48 and minutes vs what you'd expect from the 3 year average. The numbers below are WP48 - avg WP48, minutes - avg minutes, WP - expected wins produced in the above list. Here are the numbers.
- TD +.018 -99.3 +.33
- Manu -.022 +273.33 +.82
- McDyess -.068 -305.67 -3.51
- Blair - rookie
- TP -.062 -437.33 -3.33
- RJ 0 -366.33 -.4
- Bonner -.005 -153 -.39
- Hill +.023 503 1.7
- Total -4.78 WP
So this same group produced 56.27-4.78 = 51.49 WP last year. The team as a whole produced about 54 wins last year which was consistent with our efficiency differential. We only won 50 because we couldn't win close games early in the season. The big reduction in WP comes from TP and McDyess dropping significantly in both minutes and WP48. They won 6.84 fewer games then my average would expect them to win this year. With TP I don't think it's unreasonable for him to bounce back and meet expectations. McDyess may play better this year, but with Blair and Splitter coming on he won't get his minutes back up. So I don't really expect his WP to rebound.
One other thing to keep in mind is that rookies usually improve a bit so Blair's WP should increase with minutes at least, if not because of WP48 as well. Hill's expected WP also suffers because his rookie year is factored in. If he plays like he did in the second half of the season you can expect something more like a WP48 of .125 and 2250 minutes giving 5.86 WP which would make up for McDyess underperforming.
Now there are still 3711 minutes unaccounted for. These will be taken by Splitter, Anderson, Neal, and Temple. If these guys can take the remaining minutes and average a WP48 of .050 (I expect Splitter to better this by a fair amount), then this would give 3.87 more wins. So my expected WP + 3.87 gives 60.13 WP. So while this certainly doesn't make us favorites in the West (I believe a similar calculation for the Lakers give them something over 60 expected WP), it does seem to say that we will be a very good team and contenders next year. Go Spurs Go!
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Offseason boredom leads to Spurs WP48 post
This is my first fan post eva.
I hate this time of year. No college football and if you're a UT fan most of the recruiting has already happened (I'm a UT fan). I don't really like baseball. So all I'm left with is obsessing about the Spurs because at least they have the draft and FA coming up. I'm a big fan of the Wins Produced (WP) metric which you can read more about at wagesofwins.com. It's a production metric based on how the box score stats are correlated with wins. I spent a lot of time the last couple of days looking at what or players produced this year and thinking about what we could expect from them next year based on WP. So I thought I'd share.
Below is a site that automates the WP calculation. You can look at seasons 2006-2010 and look at the playoffs for each season.
http://www.permanent-sketch.com/WinsProduced/#/Season
The only problem with automating the WP calculation is that you have to compare a players production to the average at his position. So you have to know the position of every player in the league. The site has a good process for this, but it is not perfect. To fix this the raw production for a player is included (Adj.P48 or adjusted production per 48 minutes) so you can make the correct position adjustment if you feel a players position is in error. This doesn't completely fix the problem because the average for each position will be calculated with some players at the wrong position, but it's really close. Okay enough of that, now on to the Spurs.
So this year we produced 54.3 wins, which matches closely what you'd expect from our efficiency differential (54.7 wins in 82 games). The reason we didn't match this in reality is because of all the close games we lost early in the season to good teams. God I hated that.
Alright here are the players we had this year with over 100 minutes who finished the season with us. I'll list minutes, WP48 (wins produced per 48 minutes, average is .100), and WP
- Timmeh 2438 .309 15.69
- Manu 2150 .285 12.77
- Blair 1494 .263 8.19
- Hill 2276 .093 4.41
- McD 1617 .099 3.34
- Bonner 1161 .113 2.73
- RJ 2520 .052 2.73
- Parker 1728 .072 2.59
- Mason 1515 .038 1.2
- Ian 165 .198 0.68
- Malik 361 .081 0.53
- Bogans 1559 .007 0.23
- Temple 193 -.025 -.1
Blair, Timmeh, Manu were all production machines. Hill had a WP48 of .052 through the first half, so he was above average through the second and should improve more. He's a nice piece. TP wasn't good, but has been in the .150 to .200 range the last several years and I think he should return to this next year given he's taking the summer off. McDyess was average and will probably continue to decline but he's nice to have on the bench. Bonner had a WP48 of .190 in the first half so that means he was well below average in the second half. RJ had a .032 WP48 in the fist half so he did get better, but was still below average. Mason and Bogans were terrible. Malik shows some promise but needs to step forward. Still it's okay for bench players to be a bit below average. Temple still interests me but hasn't shown much. Ian is intriguing but he averages enough fouls to foul out in 30 minutes. He'd get a 20 and 10 doing it though so I'd like to keep him if our offseason moves give us enough roster space to get him 10-15 minutes a game.
Now here's what I think is a conservative estimate of what we can expect from our players next year.
- Timmeh 2016 .275 11.55
- Manu 2016 .250 10.5
- Parker 2448 .150 7.65
- Blair 1875 .275 10.74
- Hill 2700 .125 7.03
- McD 864 .050 0.9
- RJ 2550 .075 3.98
This gives us a total of 52.36 wins. I assumed all these players will miss 7-10 games. I assumed fewer minutes and less productivity from Timmeh and Manu. I assumed Parker returns to the bottom of his peak years. I assumed that Blair and Hill will improve at least a little and get more minutes and that RJ would perform more like his second half of the season. I gave McDyess so few minutes because I assumed he'd have a large decline and that we'll acquire another big or Ian will get some of his minutes. Obviously these guys could be better than this. I don't think they'll do much worse baring significant injury. In addition to this we have guys like Hairston and Temple and a draft pick. I believe the average draftee puts up a WP48 of .050 (I don't have a reference for this, just what I remember reading). If we draft a wing with a .050 WP48 who plays 12 minutes a game, and we get Splitter or another big who plays 25 minutes at .100 (Ian or a non declined McDyess could also take these minutes) we get another 5.3 wins for a total of 57.65 wins. We also have 2,177 minutes unaccounted for but in my conservative estimate I'll say those were played by players who averaged 0 wins.
So this yields an estimate of almost 58 wins without major roster changes and not relying much on players not already on our roster. Not to shabby. This puts us solidly in contender status and this is with Timmeh and Manu playing only 28 minutes for 72 games during the regular season. Obviously they will get more minutes come playoffs and increase team production. The key will be allowing Blair to get good minutes alongside Timmeh so he needs to work on his jumper.
In summary, I think we can have a great team next year with relatively little change. I am officially pumped for next season.
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No more Flight
http://www.nba.com/spurs/news/white_070723.html
It seems that James White is no longer with us. While I trust the spurs FO, I've been fantasizing about how great he could be for a while now. I guess they think we're going to get Udoka, so there's no chance for White to develop next year? Still, I believe we were only going to have to pay him the minimum next year, so there was little risk him keeping him around. Personally, this hurts more than Scola since I'd given up on him already.
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