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I Apologize, but I wanna debate QB's

bleedgreendaily87 — Mon, 29 Apr 2013 16:05:48 -0000

First a few fact/things Chip deems as facts:

He likes(happy MJB, lol) QB who can threaten with the run, not a running-back who throws(Anti-Brown/tebow)
He doesn't have to have a mobile QB (New Hampshire)
He says he is going to play to the strengths of his personnel.
He is going to hold a true QB competition
He wasn't going to trade any one, and everyone is going to battle it out in camp
he restructured Mike Vick instead of absorbing a 4 mill hit, a hit we could have taken.
He wants a playbook that does not cater to one skillset for a QB.

Now what confused me a couple weeks ago

How can we do a QB competition between Vick and Foles, they are two different QBs who make the offense go in different ways and defenses treat them and scheme against them differently based on their skills?
Was every QB really doing Read-option or was the dual threats doing it and Foles and Edwards doing west coast in hi-tempo? Edwards got Cut.

My thoughts(which are debatable)

Our Offensive Line will probably be fixed considering Herremans(slide him back over to Peters side) and Mathis will be guards, Peters and Johnson will be Tackles and Kelce will be the center. We will have bigger WR/TEs who can get separation with the way Chip is going to run the offense, with the fast paced training, and with the added addition: three tight end sets (Ertz, Casey, Celek) and Wr sets that could include (Monah, Sheppard, Jackson, Maclin, and Benn). So weapons and protection will be present like Cops hosting a stripper party. Now its up to the best QB to get out there and do his Job. So who will be the guy and will the guy be mobile or a pure passer?

MY BOLD GUESS-

Chip Kelly will keep both a mobile and a pure passer. There are going to be mini-competitions between Vick, Kinne, Dixon and Barkley and Foles. The winners: Vick and Barkley.

My logic:

Barkley is Chip's QB pick and maybe the QB of the future. All I keep hearing is his intangibles,brains and accuracy. He was suppose to be a 1st round pick, previously, and his arm/shoulder injury is what held him back. Though he has all these things, the obvious reality is whether Foles or Barkely is the guy? I think the Barkley pick was a pick that says Foles may not be the guy. I say this because Vick has Dixon and Kinne to push him and Edwards got cut. There was no one to challenge him on the roster. He needed competition and the competition he got may be better.

Regardless,they both are QBs who need time to develop into something great. Why force them into the line up just because? In Chip's offense, everything is taught in such a way that the reads are easier and any sack taken is the QB's fault. Why? In this high pace offense the Qb is able to adjust and take what is given by the defense. If they want to play eight in the box we run, they play off we throw. Simplifying the offense to those pre -snap reads, instead of the complications of the West Coast, makes it easier for Qb's like Vick to run the offense. which allows more time for the Qbs being groomed to learn the offense. This gives Vick a shot to showcase his talents for a new team and gets the team adjusted to a fast pace offense for when Barkley or Foles steps in. Vick's end is nearing and is evident to everyone, this is not a one year growing process, and no one has to rush the growth of Foles/Barkley. Everyone wins. Lastly Chip has his playbook matching both QB's.

For all the Vick naysers, who think this is a nightmare,and think im crazy....why would Vick restructure instead of taking his 4 mill and finding a team, any team, and be the starter or back up and get a check for 2 mil or 1 mil and still be paid like Nnamdi. I mean I boo'd him from my house watching him so I could only imagine what he got in philly or from philly on the road lol. My answer, he heard the plan for him and heard the plan for the offense and realized if he bought in for a year Chip could get the best out of him and get him a bigger check(fools gold check)somewhere else. Call it conspiracy, call it stupid, I call it keeping good Qb's and getting the most out of a aging veteran who is still looked at as the leader of this team for right now. Lets debate people.

via media.philly.com

First a few fact/things Chip deems as facts:

He likes(happy MJB, lol) QB who can threaten with the run, not a running-back who throws(Anti-Brown/tebow)
He doesn't have to have a mobile QB (New Hampshire)
He says he is going to play to the strengths of his personnel.
He is going to hold a true QB competition
He wasn't going to trade any one, and everyone is going to battle it out in camp
he restructured Mike Vick instead of absorbing a 4 mill hit, a hit we could have taken.
He wants a playbook that does not cater to one skillset for a QB.

Now what confused me a couple weeks ago

How can we do a QB competition between Vick and Foles, they are two different QBs who make the offense go in different ways and defenses treat them and scheme against them differently based on their skills?
Was every QB really doing Read-option or was the dual threats doing it and Foles and Edwards doing west coast in hi-tempo? Edwards got Cut.

My thoughts(which are debatable)

MY BOLD GUESS-

Chip Kelly will keep both a mobile and a pure passer. There are going to be mini-competitions between Vick, Kinne, Dixon and Barkley and Foles. The winners: Vick and Barkley.

My logic:

Poll

Who will be the starter this year?

Matt Barkley

23 votes

Nick Foles

51 votes

Michael Vick

61 votes

Dennis Dixon

1 votes

136 votes | Poll has closed

Last Mock Draft

bleedgreendaily87 — Wed, 17 Apr 2013 21:35:28 -0000

This is the final mock draft before the draft next week and I wanted to pick as if I was Chip Kelly, I feel like his first pick will be unconventional but it will represent what they want: A player who will be a great player this year and in the years to come:

1. Chance Warmack, OG

2. Zach Ertz, TE

3. Matt Scott, QB

4. Marquise Goodwin, WR

5.Darius Slay, CB

6.Patrick Ford, OT

7. Kwame Geathers, NT

7. Kyle Juszcyzk, H-back

7. DJ Harper, RB

7.Nick Kasa, TE

1. Chance Warmack, OG

2. Zach Ertz, TE

3. Matt Scott, QB

4. Marquise Goodwin, WR

5.Darius Slay, CB

6.Patrick Ford, OT

7. Kwame Geathers, NT

7. Kyle Juszcyzk, H-back

7. DJ Harper, RB

7.Nick Kasa, TE

Final Mock Draft/ Eagles Draft

bleedgreendaily87 — Fri, 29 Mar 2013 02:24:04 -0000

via media.al.com

1. Kansas City Chiefs- Luke Joeckal, LT 2, Jacksonville Jaguars- Dion Jordan, OLB/DE 3. Oakland Raiders- Shariff Floyd, DT 4. Philadelphia Eagles- Eric Fisher, RT 5. Detriot Lions- Ezekiel Anasah, DE 6. Cleveland Browns- Dee Milliner, CB 7. Arizona Cardinals- Lane Johnson, OT 8. Buffalo Bills- Geno Smith, QB 9. New York Jets-Star Louletlei, NT 10 Tennesee Titans- Chance Warmack, G 11.San Dieago Chargers-Jarvis Jones, DE/OLB 12.Miami Dolphins- Desmond Trufant, CB 13.Tampa Bay Buccaneers- Xavier Rhodes, CB 14.Carolina Panthers- Sheldon Richardson, DT 15.New Orleans Saints- Barkevious Mingo, DE/OLB 16.Saint Louis Rams- Kenny Vaccaro, S/CB 17.Pittsburg Steelers-Bjoern Weiner, DE/OLB 18.Dallas Cowboys- Johnathan Cooper, G/C 19.New York Giants- Demonte Moore, DE 20.Chicago Bears-Arthur Brown,LB 21.Cincinati Bengals-Alec Ogletree, LB 22.Saint Louis Rams- Tavon Austin, WR 23.Minnesota Vikings-Deandre Hopkins, WR 24.Indianapolis Colts- Tank Carradine, DE/OLB 25.Minnesota Vikings- Kawame Short, DT 26. Green Bay Packers- Datone Jones DE/DT 27. Houstan Texans-Kennan Allen, WR 28.Denver Broncos- Johnathan Banks,CB 29.New England Patriots-Jesse Williams, NT 30.Atlanta Falcons- Johnathan Hankins, DT 31.San Fransico 49ers- Tyler Eifert, TE 32.Baltimore Ravens-Kevin Minter, LB

via jacksonville.com

Eagles Draft 1. Eric Fisher, OT 2. E J Manuel, QB 3. Phillip Thomas, S 4. Marquise Goodwin, WR 5. Kwame Geathers, NT 7. Nick Kasa, TE 7.D.J. Harper, RB

via media.al.com

via jacksonville.com

Eagles Draft 1. Eric Fisher, OT 2. E J Manuel, QB 3. Phillip Thomas, S 4. Marquise Goodwin, WR 5. Kwame Geathers, NT 7. Nick Kasa, TE 7.D.J. Harper, RB

3 Alternative Drafts: Mocking Around QB

bleedgreendaily87 — Sat, 16 Mar 2013 16:53:14 -0000

Most are under the impression Nick Foles is the Answer! Nick has looked good at times and was pretty comfortable in the pocket, however he is not the second coming of Tom Brady or Peyton Manning,in my opinion. Now if he becomes that sooner or later I will wholeheartedly apologize for my utter stupidity; I just don't see it, just like I didn't see it in Kolb. With that said we will need another QB because Vick is a stopgap until the new Qb learns the offense. We have heard enough about these guys to know the pros and cons of each, also all three guys we might target had there stock rise over the last couple weeks or so. So lets predict what each draft will look like with us picking each QB.

What a Geno Smith Draft may look like?

via www.usasports360.com

1. Geno Smith, QB

2. Deandre Hopkins, WR

3.Justin Pugh, OT

4. Tyrann Mathieu,CB

5.William Gholston, DE

7.Kwame Geathers, NT

7. Sam Barrington, OLB

What might a EJ Manuel draft look like?

via l3.yimg.com

1. Eric Fisher, OT

2. EJ Manuel, QB

3. Phillip Thomas, S

4.Marcus Lattimore, RB

5.Everette Dawkins, DT

7. Kwame Geathers, NT

7.Chris Barker, OG

What might a Matt Scott draft look like?

via tucsoncitizen.com

1. Sharrif Floyd, DT

2. Johnathan Cyprien,S

3. Matt Scott, QB

4.Darious Slay, CB

5.Aaaron Mellette, WR

7.Kyle Juszczyk, FB

7. Kwame Geathers, NT

You may not like my picks, but I tried to think BPA and make estimated guesses without giving us unreasonable players. I was also trying to tame my bias which would make me pick as if every other team is stupid lol. I am not a GM just a fan eager for a Lombardi having a little fun to pass the time. Enjoy!

What a Geno Smith Draft may look like?

via www.usasports360.com

1. Geno Smith, QB

2. Deandre Hopkins, WR

3.Justin Pugh, OT

4. Tyrann Mathieu,CB

5.William Gholston, DE

7.Kwame Geathers, NT

7. Sam Barrington, OLB

What might a EJ Manuel draft look like?

via l3.yimg.com

1. Eric Fisher, OT

2. EJ Manuel, QB

3. Phillip Thomas, S

4.Marcus Lattimore, RB

5.Everette Dawkins, DT

7. Kwame Geathers, NT

7.Chris Barker, OG

What might a Matt Scott draft look like?

via tucsoncitizen.com

1. Sharrif Floyd, DT

2. Johnathan Cyprien,S

3. Matt Scott, QB

4.Darious Slay, CB

5.Aaaron Mellette, WR

7.Kyle Juszczyk, FB

7. Kwame Geathers, NT

MOCK DRAFT/FREE AGENCY

bleedgreendaily87 — Fri, 08 Mar 2013 12:26:43 -0000

I am obsessed with the monster we call the off-season. It is such an amazing time or mystery and guess-work. I think the unpredictability of the off-season is what intrigues me the most and also seeing how dynamic of a change a team can make from one season to the next with a key player here and there. We have a new coach who will set up a new set of trends, have a new set or type of player they like and will bring in a new personality.

I, for one, and very eager to see this team pick up a "tough-guy" mentality on defense with a "silent-confidence". With that in mind I did a mock draft and a free agent list that I think will create this personality and make us a contender for years to come.Without further waiting, I present my off-season plans.

immediate Cut/Walk list

Nnamdi

DRC

Kurt Coleman

Pre- Free Agency MOCK DRAFT

1.Eric Fisher, OT

2.JOHNATHAN CYPRIEN,S,

3. MATT SCOTT, QB,

4. Honey Badger, CB

5.KWAME GEATHERS,NT

6.CHRIS HARPER, WR

7.TRAVIS LONG, OLB

7.MONTORI HUGHES, DT

FREE AGENCY

I looked at the age of each free agent and decided that if we are going to build a strong team we should build around need and youth. I was thinking about who could be on the team for 3-4 years, bring immediate impact, and grow and help the team get better. I thought that these guys could do that.

JARED COOK, TE

ANDY LEVITRE,OG

Paul Kruger, OLB

KEENAN LEWIS, CB

WILLIAM MOORE, S,

TERRANCE KNIGHTON, NT

RICKEY JEAN-FRANCIS, DE

immediate Cut/Walk list

Nnamdi

DRC

Kurt Coleman

Pre- Free Agency MOCK DRAFT

1.Eric Fisher, OT

2.JOHNATHAN CYPRIEN,S,

3. MATT SCOTT, QB,

4. Honey Badger, CB

5.KWAME GEATHERS,NT

6.CHRIS HARPER, WR

7.TRAVIS LONG, OLB

7.MONTORI HUGHES, DT

FREE AGENCY

JARED COOK, TE

ANDY LEVITRE,OG

Paul Kruger, OLB

KEENAN LEWIS, CB

WILLIAM MOORE, S,

TERRANCE KNIGHTON, NT

RICKEY JEAN-FRANCIS, DE

Byrd will get the Tag!!

bleedgreendaily87 — Fri, 01 Mar 2013 18:14:05 -0000

Byrd will get the Tag!!

Adam Schefter reports. Does this mean Levitre walks?

Also Brandon Graham shedding weight and working with Lamarr Woodley

https://twitter.com/SheilKapadia/status/307555064669671425

How fast do our QB's get the ball out: THE TRUTH!!!!

bleedgreendaily87 — Fri, 01 Mar 2013 17:13:30 -0000

How fast do our QB's get the ball out: THE TRUTH!!!!

Really fascinating article!!!

Garrard to Jets

bleedgreendaily87 — Fri, 01 Mar 2013 17:07:09 -0000

Garrard to Jets

Jets wheeling and dealing with David Garrard!!! Weird but true.

Quarterback Competition Just Got Real!

bleedgreendaily87 — Fri, 01 Mar 2013 09:33:13 -0000

via i3.photobucket.com

Just when you thought the Philadelphia Eagles were done looking for quarterback depth, in comes 6-2, 234, G. J. Kinne. Kinne,24, is a former Tulsa graduate who signed with the Jets as a undrafted free agent in April. He was released on June 28, 2012. His former quarterback coach, Press Taylor, is now on the team as a Offensive Quality Coach.

As a starter in Tulsa, he was named Conference USA Offensive Player of the Year after completing 60 percent of his passes, throwing for 3,650 yards and 31 touchdowns. In his career at Tulsa, Kinne had 10,831 total yards, passed for 9,472 and rushed for 1,359 yards with 81 touchdowns.

He originally transferred from the University of Texas following his sophomore red-shirt season. Kinne will officially join the Eagles once formally released from the San Antonio Talons of the Arena League. Reuben Frank of CSNPHILLY broke this story.

Here are some scouting notes from ProFootballWeekly on this guy:

Positives:

Has good feet and a quick-armed release. Throws with conviction. Functional arm strength. Has backyard athletic ability — throws naturally on the move and can make plays when the pocket breaks down. Generally knows where to go with the ball. Mentally and physically tough and will play hurt.
Negatives:
Lacks ideal height. Operated a spread offense vs. mid-major competition. Has a low, three-quarters release, and balls tend to come out with a loose wobble. Inconsistent placement. Rarely pushed the ball deep and struggles to drive downfield throws on a line.
Summary:
A tough, competitive, Texas-bred passer, Kinne lacks stature to ever thrive as a traditional dropback, pocket passer. However, has enough arm, athletic ability and moxie to entrust in a pinch with a controlled, rhythm offense where he could make short-to-intermediate throws, sprint out and create. Has a gunslinger’s mentality, and you always will have to live with mistakes that accompany the plays he makes. Ceiling is a No.

This guy has gone through some crazy things in life, here is a tidbit from the PE website:

Prior to his collegiate career, Kinne experienced a heart-wrenching series of events as a high school quarterback in 2005 when his father Gary Joe, the team’s coach, was shot by a disgruntled and deranged father of one of Kinne’s teammates. Kinne was initially told that his father had passed away, only to find out that his father had indeed survived despite being given a "10 percent" chance of doing so.

Here is a little Video on him:

and last but not least his tweets:

I am officially a Philadelphia Eagle
— GJ Kinne (@GJKinne) February 28, 2013

Growing up an Eagles fan is what makes this even more special. Scroll to the bottom, my favorite NFL team is listed tulsahurricane.com/sports/m-footb…
— GJ Kinne (@GJKinne) March 1, 2013

This new pick up may lead people to believe that Chip likes a dual threat Quarterback,contrary to belief that this is all he has really had to deal with at Oregon and went with it. It may even contradict the talks that Kelly is indeed infatuated with the only true pocket passer left on the roster.

We resigned Vick, signed Dennis Dixon, are about to sign Kinne and Kelly tried to recruit draft prospect E J Manuel, who is considered prospect for us in the draft if he is still around. Is Foles just that good that he makes Kelly rethink his "usual" QB or is this a ploy to beef up trade talk with Jets, Cards, Jaguars, Bills and the like? Are these tell-tale signs of significance? Let the trade talk begin again.

via i3.photobucket.com

Here are some scouting notes from ProFootballWeekly on this guy:

Positives:

Has good feet and a quick-armed release. Throws with conviction. Functional arm strength. Has backyard athletic ability — throws naturally on the move and can make plays when the pocket breaks down. Generally knows where to go with the ball. Mentally and physically tough and will play hurt.
Negatives:
Lacks ideal height. Operated a spread offense vs. mid-major competition. Has a low, three-quarters release, and balls tend to come out with a loose wobble. Inconsistent placement. Rarely pushed the ball deep and struggles to drive downfield throws on a line.
Summary:
A tough, competitive, Texas-bred passer, Kinne lacks stature to ever thrive as a traditional dropback, pocket passer. However, has enough arm, athletic ability and moxie to entrust in a pinch with a controlled, rhythm offense where he could make short-to-intermediate throws, sprint out and create. Has a gunslinger’s mentality, and you always will have to live with mistakes that accompany the plays he makes. Ceiling is a No.

This guy has gone through some crazy things in life, here is a tidbit from the PE website:

Prior to his collegiate career, Kinne experienced a heart-wrenching series of events as a high school quarterback in 2005 when his father Gary Joe, the team’s coach, was shot by a disgruntled and deranged father of one of Kinne’s teammates. Kinne was initially told that his father had passed away, only to find out that his father had indeed survived despite being given a "10 percent" chance of doing so.

Here is a little Video on him:

and last but not least his tweets:

I am officially a Philadelphia Eagle
— GJ Kinne (@GJKinne) February 28, 2013

Growing up an Eagles fan is what makes this even more special. Scroll to the bottom, my favorite NFL team is listed tulsahurricane.com/sports/m-footb…
— GJ Kinne (@GJKinne) March 1, 2013

Poll

Do you think we keep Nick Foles when the week one roster is set?

Yes

51 votes

No

33 votes

84 votes | Poll has closed