Hey,

Been lots of passion about the Broncos getting Peyton Manning. Just want to say I did not mean to offend anyone with my passion. SO i thought I would just put some bullet points of the issues as I see it. Thanks for giving me the forum!

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Hey,

As a PROFESSIONAL COACH in the same industry as Mike McCoy, I have never been so DISGUSTED in a fellow coach as he called plays today. The guy is DISGRACE and I will tell you why.

Follow me after the jump!....

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OK,

Listen up everyone. This will be short and sweet, but to say I am pissed off by our "supposed" fan base and some idiotic concepts that some of these geniuses are putting out there would be understatement.

1. If Tebow cant beat Orton he wont be our Franchise QB: Listen up you MSM stooges. You do understand a couple of things here, right? Tebow has not even played a whole season, Orton is a 7 year vet, its DENVER vs KANSAS CITY and apparently its a team game. Tebow is still 7-3 as a starter.
2. Tim Tebow cant pass so he will never be any good: This is one of my favorites, and one I see here and all over the MSM. Make predictions from a vacuum much? Couple of things with this that completely stand in the face of common sense and logic. One, these assumptions are based that Tebow is as good as he will ever be. Two, they totally discount anything he did in college, while at the same time, other QB prospects are lauded for what they have done in college (go figure). It was interesting, a friend of mine new to football watching Drew Brees last night says "Tebow will never be that." Yep, you are right, Tebow is a better athlete for a start! But I explained it this way: All the experts say Tebow needs to learn to throw better. Agreed. And its totally coachable. But do you ever hear experts say "Brees/ Brady/ Manning need to learn to run better." Of course not. Yet, Tebow CAN run. So, if I am looking at upside, I have a QB who runs great and is already winning games with massive upside. What am I missing.
3. Changing the playing field: Hating vs Real Criticism: Has anyone else noticed how critics and "experts" love changing the playing field with regards to Tebow. First, he wont win in NFL? Check that off. He wont maintain winning? he is 7-3 this season. His team mates wont play for him in this style of offense? Mmm....OK. Whats even more insane is that people compare Tebow to HOF guys like Brady, Brees, Rodgers. They hold him to unreasonable standards that they dont hold other QB's with. Hell, even comparing him to Orton and Cassell based on all the critics original assessments is unfair (remember 2-3 year project!). I would suggest EVERYONE assess TT for where he is in his career. He is not thru his first season for goodness sake, and he has a winning record and is progressing. if this was anyone else with out the name Tim Tebow there would be NO questions from the fan base or team....they would be pumped. Tebow has to improve, just like every other young player...just like Von Miller, Eric Decker, Demaryius Thomas. Thats fair and reasonable, but some of the expectations put on this kid by fans and MSM alike are ridiculous.
4. Does everyone understand we have 2 chances to make the play offs?: Just want to make sure that everyone understands that we have 2 chances to make play offs. We win, or Oakland loses. The way half you cats are carrying on you would think we had a 4-12 season....you do remember that 4-12 season, right?
5. This is a TEAM sport: While many want to drop the last 2 weeks all at the feet of Tim Tebow , here are some things to think about. In the 10 games that Tebow has started, the WR corps has dropped over 30 passes...closer to 40. Von Miller has been injured, as has Dawkins (and by the way, go watch some highlights.....Von was HORRENDOUS last weekend...did not record 1 stat, and badly missed on Spiller and over pursued everywhere!). Bad turnovers by the O and Special teams (Is Quan Cosby still on the team?), many big plays given up, bad tackling, silly penalties, did I mention drops (just making sure you are paying attention!). This TEAM has screwed the pooch...not one player, or a couple of players...this TEAM. The same way the BRONCOS won games is the same way we have LOST games....as a team effort.
6. The world aint black and white!: Some of the comments on here, in the MSM and on blogs are so black and white. Here are some of the common ones we have all seen here. Critical of Kyle Orton, you are a Tebow lover. Critcal of Tebow? You are a hater, Supporton or not a good fan of the team. Critical of coaching? You a smart ass that thinks you know more than the coach. Critical of Elway? You are not a fan. Guys, we live in a world of grey. Here are some things that will happen: Our team will play well, our team will screw the pooch, Tebow will play great, average and poorly. Von will have some multi sack days, and then go missing in action. Good players will get injured, some UDFA's will shine and become starters, some 1st round draft picks will suck. World of grey fellas.....we live in shades of grey, not black and white, so I hazard ALL of us (especially me) to not make over the top statements of fact based on one random minute in time. It is akin to pausing a movie and basing your whole opinion of that movie on that one snap shot. Silly, and you might miss some surprises in the future.
7. We have a chance for the play offs: Dudes and dudettes. Now is not the time for stupid carte blanche statements, fanciful opinions or to put the boot into certain players just so you can tell everyone how right you were. We have a chance....a REAL TANGIBLE chance to go to the play offs, and once there, its a new game. We need to come together and support our team. Thats how simple it is. Thats what real fans do!

Thanks for reading. GO BRONCOS!

Hi Y'All,

Been following all the "outrage" on Twitter world regarding Elway's comments on Tim Tebow today. To be honest, I did not take them as much....and I will explain this in my post.

First, a little story: I tweeted John Elway the other day after the Jets game. I congratulated him on the win and the team, but also on the opening of his new restaurant in Vail, named funnily enough, Elways (I am from Vail). Told him I was excited to check it out with my family.

Now, I have tweeted Elway a few times, both positive and negative, but never received a  tweet back from him...until yesterday!

He was very nice, said thanks, and sent me a link to the new restaurants email site. Wonder why?

Anyway, follow some of my thoughts after the jump......

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Hey Guys,

This is basically a reply to put to Troy Hufford's fun read. It relates to the development stages for all athletes and teams and I thought some of you might like the information.

I use the same stages for the development of all my athletes. Check it out and get back to me with questions or comments. Enjoy!

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Hey dudes,

This will be a post of raw emotion with no punches pulled. I will probably insult some people, call people out, bag on myself and piss people off, but at this stage, I just dont give 2 shits. Because here is the problem: Football, and in particular, our Denver Broncos, are just aint fun any more.

We all work jobs, are at university, are moms, dads...have stresses.....and MHR, Football and the Broncos used to be a release. I used to able to come from work, unwind with a glass of vino and chat with friends about the broncos, learn from guys like BroncoBear, Styg, HoosierTeacher, TedBartlett, TJ and The Sports Guru...it was like cyberspaces version of Cheers, and it was fun. Now, its more work to deal with than my real job. For an emotional cat like me that wears his heart on his sleeve, enough has become enough.

Our team was fun to watch. Jake Plummer was exciting, his own person and played with heart and soul. Rod Smith was a legend, we had characters like Mike Anderson, guys like Kyle Johnson. Shanahan might have driven me nuts, but he would have a go and roll the dice.

We had our controversies, like when jay Cutler took over from Plummer, but Plummer was a man about it, and we saw the potential in Cutler, and Jake left on his own terms, with a great winning record. 

But now, well, guys it just aint fun. Following this team is just plain hard work.  It is the first time when there is absolutely nothing I like about the team., nothing about the franchise and nothing about the future.

I find myself being negative, which has now turned to absolute apathy where I dont even care how we go any more. And my opinions, WOW.....I am bringing a ton of neagtivity myself, and in general life, that just aint my style.

This has become Lord of the Flies, with 2 distinct camps. I find myself honestly believing that half you guys are complete and utter idiots....I cant believe that ANYONE in their RIGHT mind could support Kyle Orton. He sucks.

ANd half you guys think I am an absolute prick...and you know what...I am not.....and half of you are NOT idiots, but this is where I have found myself.

I am sick of crew telling us how to be fans, sick of crew bemoaning MHR becoming like DP, yet them not realizing comments like that just add to the cause.

I am sick of arguing with dudes I  like...and find myself grinding my teeth (particularly KK's opinion of Tebow) when people speak stuff I vehemently disagree with  but...damn....KK and I are good mates. How the hell has it got this far. Why am I vehemently disagreeing with ANYTHING.....its football....its suppose to be fun!

I, more than anyone, have added to the chaos. I am emotional, I have started dreading coming here because I know there will be another QB thread, and off we go again. Opinions are so divided. And what is sad.....I cant in good conscience support Kyle Orton...I think hes dreadful and the worst thing wrong for our team...its starting to get personal. i am full of negativity....I did not even care we lost to the raiders......thats how bad its got.

I think Fox is an idiot and pretty clueless. Elway is an amateur and I would not trust him as far as I could kick his lying ass across the street. Xanders is just plain incompetent. McCoy is a yes man that has no idea how to creatively run an offense. But where has this negativity come from...as I honestly believe this.....but how did I (and I am sure many of you) get to this place. It just aint positive! I was even prepared to send a check to those guys who are getting "The fire Kyle Orton" billboards. I have become everything that I HATE about over the top, out of control fans

Guys, it just aint fun anymore. One of my favorite members Montana, relayed how he had to take a break from the Broncos for a while, and how it did not make him a bad fan. Well, I agree.....this game needs to be fun again, I need to be excited about football, and most importantly, the Broncos.

Maybe this is something we all need to do. Maybe this hits a chord with a few of you. I wanted to post this in the hope that some of you are feeling the same way. Maybe use this post to vent...shit, as long as someone gets something out of it.

So, that being said, I am turning a new leaf. I just aint going to care anymore until the Broncos excite me again, until there is something tangible I can get behind. I am not going to argue with friends on here. I am only going to visit occasionally and read things that interest me. i am going to spend more time with my wife and kids, I am going to avoid anything to do with Kyle Orton. I might watch the games, I might not. I am going to wish my team the best and take a chill for a while.

To anyone out there, that I got into with, my apologies. There are some cool ass people on here, and want you to know you have much respect from me. I still believe that EFX has much to prove, and they need to earn ALL our trust.

My last thought I would leave you with is that its cool to hold our franchise accountable. We dont work for them, they work for us, so our opinions should count.....ALWAYS should count. Form your own opinions, and dont blindly believe that the coaches, the Broncos and the "experts" know more than you...some of the best knowledge I have ever got came , not only from the writers here at MHR and over at IAOFM, but from normal, well informed fans like us. 

And always remember.....GO BRONCOS!

Peace everyone, hope some of you get something out of this!

Hey All,

This is just a fascinating article.

Before you read it understand I like a good conspiracy.

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Hey Broncos Bretheren,

Whats up?

Anyone had a gut full with all the controversy going on with our team? I sure as hell have......so here is new fun way where we can all get on board and actually agree on something...eventually!

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