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Arrowhead Pride AP group Chiefs Only Mock Draft - Round 1 #5 pick - REVISED 1-21-10 6:38 AM

All future posts on this series will be located in the weekly "Official AP Mock Draft Thread" that is located in the recommended fanposts section.  The Second Round #36 pick will be posted in the comments section this morning.

This is the third fanpost of this series.  If you have missed the previous fanposts, and would like to view them go here

The team needs poll from yesterday is now closed, and the results are available in a pdf file at the following file sharing site link here as well as a recap of the results I prepared here

A quick recap of the team needs poll results are as follows:

                Team Need 1 - NT

                Team Need 2 - ILB - Mike (NT was the top vote getter, but already voted #1 team need)

                Team Need 3 - SS

                Team Need 4 - C

                Team Need 5 - RG

                Team Need 6 - RB complementary powerback

                Team Need 7 - KR/PR (RB comp. power was the top vote getter, but won #6 team need)

                Team Need 8 - CB - nickel

                Team Need 9 - WR #3 - slot and ILB - Will tied (RB power and KR/PR both received more votes)

                Team Need 10 - TE (KR/PR and CB - nickel both received more votes)

The total votes per position, for the top 10 positions only, (votes in team need 1-10 totaled) were as follows:

                Most total votes received - NT

                2nd - C

                3rd - SS

                4th - RB - complementary powerback

                5th - RG

                6th - ILB - Mike

                7th - KR/PR

                8th - ILB - Will

                9th - WR #3 - slot

                10th - FS

Before, we begin with the mock draft portion of this series, I'd like to explain how I'm making certain assumptions and where certain information I'll reference can be found. 

Prospect rankings and their projected draft positions - I understand there are numerous locations to find this information, both free and with a subscription.  I will use CBS NFLDRAFTSCOUT and the sister site for most of my prospect availability assumptions.  At this time, neither site has included declared underclassmen in their ranks, so even if the same site is used by us all, some guess work will be involved.  The draft order is based on walterfootball's information.

Draft-pick trades up/down - I will also be including some trade up/down scenarios in the mock draft polling.  I won't attempt to determine an exact trade partner, but rather an approximate 5 slot position and a value received/given for that trade.  I will only consider draft picks as compensation... i.e. no player trades.  Here is an example. (KC trades back from #5 to (#11-15) and receives 2010 1st round  #11-15, 2010 2nd round (#43-47) and 2010 4th round (#107-111) selections)  How did I come up with the trade compensation?  I used a trade value chart, there are several available at different sites, but here is a link to a pdf file of the exact version I use, so you can see how I'm basing the compensation.

Again, I know many people don't like trades incorporated in mock drafts, if you fall in that category don't select a trade selection.  If a trade up/back gets the most votes, the following day a new post and poll will be given reflecting the new position and potential prospects available at the new position.

2010 Chiefs Only Group Mock Draft - Round 1 #5

Now that the team needs have been determined, what are we going to do with the #5 overall pick of 2010 NFL Draft?  I know there are several different directions we could go with this selection, and good arguments can be for and against each.  Yesterday, there were two very good posts that were front-paged on this topic.  Here are links to each article.  It really doesn't matter and The great debate, if you are unsure what direction you think we should go with this pick, take at look those articles. 

Here we go.... The poll will remain open until Wednesday, January 20th at 9 PM.  The following post will follow the next morning.

Just go to the Poll and cast your vote.  Vote here.   

22 comments  |  3 recs | 

Arrowhead Pride AP group Chiefs Only Mock Draft - Team Needs

In order to avoid 10 posts on this topic, Chris Thorman suggested an online poll creator.  So, if this works....team needs should be able to be voted on all in one post.  Thanks again, Chris.

To those of you that voted or commented to the fanposts yesterday, please stick with me on this....I hope it will be smooth sailing from here on out.

Here is a link to the team needs poll.  Vote here

If you missed the first post and are unsure what this is all about, here is a link to the first fanpost in this series.

14 comments  |  3 recs | 

Arrowhead Pride AP group Chiefs Mock Draft?

First, I'd like to thank Joel and Chris Thorman, Matt Conner and all the regular contributors of Arrowhead Pride for making this site what it is.  This is my first stop for all things Chiefs and one of my favorite sites, period.  Recently, kcchiefstd has been posting a series on 2010 draft prospects by position.  Those posts have both given me an idea for a new series and motivated me to finally contribute to this site with more than a comment or fanshot of an interesting link. 

The idea .... A series of a posts resulting in a group Chiefs only mock draft prior to free agency.  This would be a group effort.  I know some of the members here are not big fans of mock drafts, but lots of us are.... So if another mock draft will frustrate you, please change the channel. 

 First, I will post a series of posts to determine team needs by position and priority with ten posts and polls (I know we only have 8 picks...now).... what do APers feel is our 1st need, 2nd need, ect.  Next, I would provide a write up for potential draft choices in the given round and pick, potential trade ups or downs, and a poll with the various choices to be voted on by the AP faithful.  I would wait at least 24 hours to allow voting on each post, before proceeding to the next post based off the results of the poll.  The subsequent posts would take into account the 1st post of team needs to help determine the players included in the write up of the given round.  (If Eric Berry and another Safety have been selected with previous polls... I won't continue to include possible safety selections in later rounds (polls))

I know many people think it is a waste of time to speculate on potential trades, and I agree to a point.  However, the entire mock draft process is speculation, and a waste of time, according to some.  If you think trades shouldn't be considered, vote accordingly.  If a trade back or up is chosen in the polls, I'll provide another post for the round with new potential prospects based on our new position.

So to recap, the series would be as follows (without trade up or backs):

Posts 1-10 - Define team needs:  10 posts including polls with all 22 positions to determine how AP sees our positional needs and their corresponding priority. (Iniatially, I was going to do this in one post, but only one poll per post is possible. I don't want to wait 24 hours between posts for team needs or wipe all the other fanposts away from the current posts... any ideas)

Post 11 - Round 1, Pick 5

Post 12 - Round 2, Pick 36

Post 13 - Round 2, Pick 50 (ATL - Tony Gonzalez)

Post 14 - Round 3, Pick 68

Post 15 - Round 4, Pick 100

Post 16 - Round 5, Pick 133

Post 17 - Round 5, Pick 139 (MIA - Tyler Thigpin)

Post 18 - Round 5, Pick 141 (CAR - Tank Tyler)

Since, polls are going to be such a big part of this post series, and I have never done a post with a poll.  I'm going to make my first poll, and get your feedback as to whether I should go through with this idea or forget the whole thing.... Let me know what you think AP.

Poll
Should I continue with this Chiefs Only Mock Draft idea?
Yes, I'll participate.
74 votes
No, it's a bad idea.
10 votes
Yes, but with a major change. See my comment.
2 votes

86 votes | Poll has closed

25 comments  | 

Scouting Report on one of the players that could be this years 1st round pick by the Chiefs.

over 2 years ago Kc_tiny chrisclark_dfw 30 comments

Brandon Marshall has played his last game in a Bronco's uniform?

over 2 years ago Kc_tiny chrisclark_dfw 0 comments

Chris Steuber of Scout.com compares Aaron Hernandez, Florida TE to Tony Gonzalez. Interesting....don't agree, but interesting.

over 2 years ago Kc_tiny chrisclark_dfw 1 comment

Includes all trades to this point. It shows us having a sixth in addition to the 3 fifth rounders.... did he just overlook the Alleman/Ndukwe compensation or did we get that pick back along with the 5th for Thigpin?

over 2 years ago Kc_tiny chrisclark_dfw 5 comments

Any fans of USC S - Taylor Mays for our 2010 1st please chack this out.

over 2 years ago Kc_tiny chrisclark_dfw 8 comments

I'm gonna miss Al Davis! Great offseason for a Chief's Fan with the Denver implosion and Oakland's, well, just being Oakland.....

almost 3 years ago Kc_tiny chrisclark_dfw 1 comment