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Big Blue View ct17's Giants mock

Sort of pointless two days before, but I'm in the frenzy thinking about football. Unlike BBI I have not found a way to inhabit the body of Jerry Reese. However, I have been meditating to clear my mind to attune myself to the Earth's natural energy currents which carrry the secrets of the perfect draft. Based upon past experience, I anticipate that none of these picks will be right. When considering who would be available at the Giants picks', I looked at 3-4 different draft boards and only took players that had a good chance of being available. So the falling BPA is not affecting these picks.



1 - Alshon Jeffery, WR, South Carolina - A preseason Top 10 pick, so VALUE. Powerful WR. Not fast like Manningham, but fills his role as an outside WR. And when I compare the 2011 Giants to the 2010 Giants, I see the ball being thrown outside to avoid those tipped INTs. Backshoulders, come back routes, corners; that is what Jeffery is going to run. Box out the corners and extend the arms. The middle will be left for Cruz and Jernigan.

Alternatives - Doug Martin, RB, Boise State is the ideal Giants RB. But he's not a superstar, which the Giants are looking for in Round 1. Amini Silatolu, G, Midwestern State, is the ideal Giants guard. Size, athletic, moves well. Not far from where they drafted Snee. But there is better positional value available. Stephen Hill, WR, Georgia Tech is a 6-4 athletic freak that should be gone, I'd draft him over Jeffery.



2 - Casey Hayward, CB, Vanderbilt - He may not be 6 feet tall, but he's 5-11 and change. He also does not have a great 40-yard dash. But every other box is checked. The top 20-yard shuttle. One of the top 3-cone times. So no long speed, but short area quickness and change-of-direction speed. Intelligent. Highly successful in actual coverage of the top WRs in the SEC. The comment I keep seeing on him is "Ideal CB for zone". He's our future nickel CB. Same round as Webster and Thomas. And we're only keeping one of those guys next year.

Alternatives - Tyrone Crawford, DE, Boise State - Height-weight-speed measurables. Arm length. Plays with a lot of hustle, but is raw. The guy you pick if you want JPP for the left side. Dwayne Allen, TE, Clemson would be a great fit on the team, but I don't think he lasts to our spot.



3 - Robert Turbin, RB, Utah State - Short but well-built powerful RB that can run between the tackles and handle the load of a primary ballcarrier. Largest arms for a RB that I've ever seen. Surprised everyone with his athleticism at the combine. Of all of my picks, this is the one I am most worried about losing to an earlier team.

Alternatives - Cyrus Gray, RB, Texas A&M was in for a visit, but I think Turbin fits our scheme better. Michael Egnew, TE, Missouri has the size and athleticism, but I think he goes earlier in the third. Brandon Hardin, S, Oregon State has great size and measurables, 6-3 215 but ran under 4.45 and played CB in college, but again would not be surprised if he is already gone.



4 - Justin Bethel, S/CB, Presbyterian - A college CB, and at only 6-0 200 not our ideal size for safety. Similar to Hayward in running times, which makes him fast for a safety. But a more physical player. Leg power shown in jumping measurements. The all-time conference leader in career tackles - as a CB. Ball skills. Long arms - 9 career blocked kicks. Intelligent. Fits the Rolle flexible CB/S role well as the big nickel/TE cover guy.

4 - Lucas Nix, G/T, Pittsburgh - It was really hard finding a player I liked for this pick. This is the best player here that makes some sort of sense for the team. At 6-5 317 has the size we like. Played a variety of positions in college, but projects as a guard in the pros. Good pass blocker at the position - good enough to have done the Diehl and played as an injury replacement at LT. In fact he projects very close to Diehl coming out of college. Thereby making Diehl expendable in 2013.

Alternatives - If we don't get a RB earlier, here we can get some good inside runners in Vick Ballard, RB, Mississippi State, Tauren Poole, RB, Tennessee, maybe even Terence Ganaway, RB, Baylor. If Audie Cole, LB, North Carolina State slips this far he could be our future SAM. A lot of good WR talent should be left. I like DeVier Posey, WR, Ohio State.



6 - Adrien Robinson, TE, Cincinnati - This year's Jacquian Williams. We have future questions at the position, and we have the roster spot to develop a raw talent. 6-4 264 fits the bill. Maybe this guy is our next Boss, just faster and more athletic. Better place to take a risk than with the TEs getting 3rd-4th round grades.



7 - Mike Ryan, T, Connecticut - Might not be a roster spot for him this year. But he is a tackle that can play both sides of the line, hard to find this late in the draft. 6-5 1/2 327 with good power. Practice squad for a year.

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Mocking The Draft 4-round Pre-Free Agency Mock

I wanted to get this out before free agency changed everything, but it looks like I am running a little late. So of course this is not updated for anything happening today. I also left my Rams-Washington trade in there to show what I was thinking. Mostly this will show where I have player values. I'm really confused on KC because Crennel is collecting an interesting mix of coaches. I have Riley Rieff in the 2nd. Jeff Allen there as well. I think QBs will be interesting. Not many starters retiring soon, I think there are few slots for the college guys to compete for.

1st Round

1

IND

Andrew Luck, QB

Duh

2

STL - WAS

Robert Griffin III, QB

Traded for 2012 1,2,5 and 2013 1,4. Redskins have cap room for free agents [NOT ANY MORE] and management has to show results soon, they outbid other teams.

3

MIN

Matt Kalil, LT

Duh #2

4

CLE

Chris Claiborne, CB

Two shutdown CBs. Awesome.

5

TB

Trent Richardson, RB

Smart, explosive player, used to sharing carries.

6

WAS - STL

Justin Blackmon, WR

Toss up with Floyd.

7

JAC

Melvin Ingram, DE/DT

Floyd a character concern, Ingram versatile and my top rusher on board.

8

MIA

Ryan Tannehill, QB

A surprise like Locker last year, but Miami needs a franchise QB and the physical skills are there. Maybe Peyton helps develop him.

9

CAR

Malcolm Floyd, WR

Not a need, but the best player on the board.

10

BUF - CLE

Brock Osweiler, QB

Traded for 2012 1,2,4. Love the physical skills, like last year desire for QBs causes teams to grab them early, Buffalo wants out, afraid of picking another Maybin. KC and Seattle jumped.

11

KC

Dontari Poe, NT

Don't ignore tape, unless a player has elite physical tools to train. Poe is that player, and Crennel knows his d-linemen.

12

SEA

Quentin Coples, DE/DT

Always had him fitting with Seattle because of the way they rotate players. I can see him being used like Tuck, inside on passing downs.

13

ARI

Jonathan Martin, LT

Arizona fans are so happy, they ignore the rest of the draft.

14

DAL

Dre Kirkpatrick, CB

A BPA and need pick, no way they can let him slip past.

15

PHI

Luke Kuechly, MLB

Hate this overdone pick, but the combine confirmed it.

16

NYJ

Courtney Upshaw, OLB

Ready to play right away, experienced OLB. Not athletic? How many points did LSU score?

17

CIN (OAK)

David DeCastro

Still think this is early for a guard, but Cincy has two picks in the 1st and a need there.

18

SD

Alshon Jeffrey, WR

The mold that AJ Smith likes at WR, fits even if VJax resigned.

19

CHI - SF

Kendall Wright, WR

Traded for 2012 1,2, 2013 5. The 40 will get faster. SF needs a weapon at WR and is afraid the teams in front of them will be taking all of the good ones.

20

TEN

Nick Perry, DE

Hard to separate the top DEs, speed/power combo goes first.

21

CIN

Janoris Jenkins, CB

Also looked at RB here, but Jenkins is an elite talent and I think is less of a risk than he at first appeared. Again, I think you can take more of a chance with two first round picks.

22

CLE (ATL) - BUF

Andre Branch, DE

Move down to take a rusher than can play either side, good run defender if the pass rush does not pan out.

23

DET

Cordy Glenn, G/T

This comes down to BPA more than anything, which the Lions have been following lately. Upgrade at guard, or maybe he kicks Cherilus inside or to the curb.

24

PIT

Donta Hightower, ILB

I can see them hoping for Glenn, or that Poe falls or Thompson justifies the pick. Or replacing Wallace. But this has always been a LB team, he complements Timmons well.

25

DEN

Stephon Gilmore, CB

I don't see Cox returning even with the acquittal. Gilmore is raw but can learn from Bailey. I could see Fox wanting a RB here as well, or a DT.

26

HOU

Stephen Hill, WR

They have put together a solid team and the only weakness, a serious one, is WR depth. A good running team keeps the defense honest by having a long ball threat. And Hill won't be a prima donna about targets.

27

NE (NO)

Whitney Mercilus, OLB

Carter filled in ably as the pass rusher last year, but he is old and the rest have not shown great talent.

28

GB

Fletcher Cox, DE

Losing Jenkins and Jolly have hurt, and there are a bunch of good DTs here, I like Cox the best.

29

BAL

Peter Konz, C

If he passes his medical tests he is good value here. He abuses defenders in run blocking. Can play LG if Grubbs walks.

30

SF - CHI - STL

Michael Brockers, DT

Traded for 2012 6. The raw talent has fallen, St. Louis makes a small jump to keep him from the Super Bowl teams.

31

NE

Kendall Reyes, DE

An impact player for the line, a player I have liked all year.

32

NYG

David Wilson, RB

Looking for an impact player at 32, I think Zach Brown also possible but was just not physical enough for this team.

2nd Round

33

STL-CHI

Mohamed Sanu, WR

They need a WR who can move the sticks.

34

IND

Brandon Thompson, DT

One of my favorite players, a 1-tech DT or NT.

35

MIN

Zach Brown, WLB

Some good DBs here but Brown a unique talent .

36

TB

Chase Minnifield, CB

It has to be a corner here.

37

CLE - BUF

Alfonzo Dennard, CB

People are forgetting all of his good tape.

38

JAC

Riley Reiff, RT

Short arms, now I understand the waist bending. Tony Pauline says some teams are relabeling him as a guard, but his feet are too good.

39

WAS - STL

Michael Adams, T

Probably a RT, a poor combine but the talent is there. And it saves $8 million a year.

40

CAR

Devon Still, DT

I'd be patient on McClain and Fua, but most will see him as a BPA pick here.

41

BUF

Vincent Curry, DE

Doubling up at DE. Poor 40? How far away is the QB? Look at the 3-cone.

42

MIA

Kelechi Osemele, RT

Peyton's not coming if Colombo is the RT, and Colombo was an upgrade.

43

SEA

Nick Foles, QB

I like him. His coach was awful (and hence now unemployed). There is real talent in that arm.

44

KC

Lamar Miller, RB

Great value, and Charles may not be 100%.

45

DAL

Alameda Ta'amu, NT/DE

Jerry goes for the big potential impact player, altthough the safeties are tempting.

46

PHI

Doug Martin, RB

Brown failed as the #2 back, Martin is a good blocker and can run between the tackles.

47

NYJ

Marvin McNutt, WR

They need to support Sanchez, McNutt is underrated, he made the big catches in college. Need for offense trumps safety need.

48

NE (OAK)

Mark Barron, S

Belichick knows exactly how and what Barron has been taught.

49

SD

Andrew Datko, T

They can play him on the right, or on the left if McNeill cannot get healthy.

50

CHI

Kevin Zeitler, G

Regime change on the offense, time to stop making do with moving guys around.

51

PHI (ARI)

Jayron Hosley, CB

They have always liked quick CBs, if Samuel goes this year or next Hosley can compete to start.

52

TEN

Michael Brewster, C

A real smart, hardworking lineman for Munchak.

53

CIN

Harrison Smith, S

Great value here, Bengals need to push out some of their safety reclamation projects.

54

DET

Markelle Martin, S

Another BPA that will indirectly improve the CB play.

55

ATL

Coby Fleener, TE

With a shortage of picks I am looking at needs more, this is where the value is at a need position.

56

PIT

Amini Silatolu, G

Need line help but no left tackles here, this guy reminds me of a younger Kemoeatu

57

DEN

Jared Crick, DT

They get their DT now, a guy I loved last year, strength and hustle, gets into the backfield.

58

HOU

Jeff Allen, G

Fell in love with this guy at the Senior Bowl practices as a guard, Texans will have trouble keeping all of their interior OL with their success.

59

NO

Chandler Jones, RDE

Spags has seen the impact of physically gifted DEs, Smith is making $1 million per sack, poor use of money.

60

GB

Shea McClellin, OLB

In order to get rid of the embarassing "discount double-check", the Pack starts an "Are you jellin' with McClellin" ad campaign.

61

BAL

Ronnell Lewis, OLB

A value pick if Johnson is not resigned or they just want youth at the position.

62

SF - CHI

Dwayne Allen, TE

Tice will give his tackles blocking help.

63

NE - BUF

Lavonte David, WLB

Traded for 2012 3,4. Buffalo has extra picks, trades up over some WILL-needy teams to get a top talent and a need for the transition to 4-3.

64

NYG

Casey Heyward, CB

Good size, good college history, not a burner but great times in some of the other drills.

3rd Round

65

IND

Orson Charles, TE

I made this pick before the DUI and Pro Day, and before Clark was released. Similar type player to Clark, Luck used to throwing to TEs. Considered WR as well here.

66

STL

Jerel Worthy, DT

Already went DT but great potential here, and they could use two.

67

MIN

Marvin Jones, WR

Atlanta traded up for Julio Jones because of Michael Jenkins. I could also see DBs here again.

68

CLE

Chris Polk, RB

Every team needs a good RB.

69

TB

Mychal Kendricks, MLB

Schiano likes speed on defense, Foster moves to SAM.

70

WAS

Bobbie Massie, RT

Need to protect that huge investment.

71

JAC

A. J. Jenkins, WR

An under-the-radar Kendall Wright type, dangerous everywhere on the field.

72

BUF - NE

Ben Jones, C

Completes the overhaul of the OL.

73

MIA

Tank Carder, WLB

Proved his athleticism at the combine.

74

CHI (CAR)

Brandon Boykin, CB

Good value here, Lovie has no fear of smaller CBs.

75

KC

Brandon Weeden, QB

At this point KC has all the impact positions except QB. He falls because of his age and a lack of QB need. They could still make a move for a QB high next year (like the Panthers).

76

SEA

Isaiah Pead, RB

A speed back to complement Lynch's hard running style.

77

PHI

Michael Martin, DT

Philly loves to draft DTs, this guy fits their mold.

78

NYJ

Brandon Mosley, RT

Ducasse will supposedly be competing for this job, but call me a skeptic based upon his lack of playing time so far. Mosley played the left side against Branch and did very well.

79

OAK

Lost for supplemental pick

The last Al Davis "but he can run" pick.

80

SD

Bruce Irvin, OLB

Will not be pressured to start right away, which is what he needs.

81

CHI

Cyrus Gray, RB

They need a backup plan for Forte.

82

ARI

Tommy Streeter, WR

Tall, deep threat to bring some safety attention away from Fitz.

83

DAL

Philip Blake, C

They have a bunch of late rounders in the middle but need a solid player to anchor the line.

84

TEN

Josh Robinson, CB

Finnegan may be gone and it's easy to like this guy's numbers.

85

CIN

LaMichael James, RB

Very different runner from Benson.

86

ATL

Cam Johnson, RDE

There seems little interest in resigning Abraham and Sidbury does not seem to be a favorite. Johnson is very athletic but inconsistent so far.

87

DET

Jairus Wright, WR

I almost put him in the 2nd round. As Young improves Burleson is in line to become the most expensive #3 WR in football, I'd rather give that money to Avril..

88

PIT

Josh Chapman, NT

They are filling the need, replacing Hampton with a cheaper model.

89

DEN

Robert Turbin, RB

The classic strong inside runner a defensive coach wants on his team.

90

HOU

Joe Adams, WR

The opposite skill set of Hill, giving another look for the offense, and don't like any players at need positions here.

91

NO

Brendan Washington, G

Nicks appears unlikely to be resigned.

92

GB

Dwight Bentley, CB

CB depth play fell off this year.

93

BAL

James Brown, LT

Ravens have gone for smaller OL before, and being short with long arms has to be good for blocking the Steelers' OLBs.

94

SF

Derek Wolfe, DE

With SF locking up their free agents, they can pick a BPA at a strong position needing depth.

95

NE

Reuben Randle, WR

Pats need to open up the underneath with a deep threat.

96

NYG

Tyrone Crawford, DE

Not what I expected to do. The prototypical Giants DE, size, short-area quickness, hustle. He somehow slipped to the end of the 4th before I decided they would not let him past here.

4th Round

97

STL

Nigel Bradham, LB

The size and athleticism to play WILL or SAM, would be higher if that translated better to field performance.

98

IND

Ryan Broyles, WR

Hard to believe he fell this far, but there are a lot of choices at WR.

99

MIN

Justin Bethel, CB

Finally got a DB in, great movement skills and good size.

100

PHI (TB)

Kirk Cousins, QB

Great value here, need a healthy backup for Vick with his many minor injuries. I'd have him higher but there is no team left that needs a starter in 2012.

101

CLE - BUF

Christopher Givens, WR

A replacement for Parrish who was never able to turn speed into production.

102

JAC

Brian Quick, WR

Had to start going small school, a different type of WR than Jenkins (and Thomas), large target.

103

WAS

Shaun Prater, CB

Good quickness, fills a need for CB depth.

104

MIA

Brandon Taylor, FS

Finally someone with the athletic ability to play free safety instead of the many strong safeties tried there.

105

CAR

Jamell Fleming, CB

I have him lower than most, maybe I watched the wrong games.

106

BUF - NE

Jonathan Massaquoi, OLB

The second OLB for NE. Undersized for their standards, but maybe Bill tries something new. Cannon was different.

107

SEA

Sean Spence, WLB

I had been reading about Hill's personal problems even before the latest charges. Spence is a great player, but size could be an issue. Interesting mix of large and small on Seattle's defense already.

108

KC

Mitchell Schwartz, RT

This need has been ignored for awhile now, I did not consider anything else here.

109

NYJ

Trumaine Johnson, FS

Fell a bit for being a CB/S tweener, Jets need coverage skills at safety.

110

WAS (OAK)

Bobby Wagner, ILB

Fletcher will retire at 50.

111

SD

Billy Winn, DE

Looks good in games, but showed no athleticism at the Senior Bowl or combine. But a similar skill set to Castillo.

112

CHI

Jake Bequette, LDE

Tremendous athleticism for his build.

113

ARI

Zebrie Sanders, T

Long arms and decent feet, but no power. Worth a try here for a team with no better options.

114

DAL

Chris Rainey, WR/RB/RS

Pure speed, a different type of weapon for the offense.

115

PHI

Keenan Robinson, LB

Could be a SAM, or large WILL in place of Rolle on some downs.

116

TEN

George Iloka, SS/WLB

He works here because Tennessee could go younger at either spot.

117

CIN

Josh Norman, CB

A bigger CB to contrast Jenkins, depth was still needed.

118

DET

Matthew McCants, LT

Has the athleticism but needs coaching, and to get stronger.

119

CLE (ATL)

Matthew Reynolds, G/RT

Good pass blocker.

120

PIT

Dwight Jones, WR

A good spot to take a chance on a player with high upside, especially since he will be far down the depth chart to start.

121

DEN

Lucas Nix, G/RT

The change in offensive philosophy is trouble for small fries like Beadles and Hochstein, and the latter does not have age on his side. Could also kick Franklin inside.

122

HOU

Kheeston Randall, DE

Looking at a BPA here, a run-stuffer than can take some snaps from Smith.

123

NO

Lardarius Green, WR/TE

He's a TE by label only, really more of a big WR that can run.

124

GB

Anthony Allen, S

Really like his tape. Collins has the serious injury and Peprah was a big downgrade.

125

BUF (BAL)

Michael Egnew, TE

Chandler had a lot of TDs last year but is not as good as the hype. Egnew is athletic with a good frame, just needs to learn the pro position.

126

SF

Brandon Brooks, G

Powerful and athletic, SF likes them big. I felt the next best RT was a reach here.

127

NE

Nick Toon, WR

Contrasting the raw athleticism of Randle with the possession WR Toon.

128

NYG

DeVier Posey, WR

Size and surprising speed to replace Manningham, and decent college production given the QB situations.

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Big Blue View Giants Draft History and Future

Since a few people have mentioned this post lately, I decided to get around to posting it here. I originally posted it on Mocking the Draft earlier than expected when too many mocks over there annoyed me. I knew not to post draft discussions on here until the season was over. My main goal in putting this together was to show that the Giants have a well-developed drafting strategy and that the advice Giants fans were giving others was backed up by some factual history.

I decided to do an in-depth analysis of the Giants' draft history to back up my statements. I went back over the past two decades, with picks grouped into 1992-2001 or 2002-2011. This may seem like too long of a time to be relevant. But there have been only three GMs and four head coaches in that time. The GMs were hired from within, and three of the head coaches were assistants under Parcells in the 1980's. So the thought process has not varied greatly (although we did start the 90's with a 3-4 defense). Since the core staff has remained the same, I also think that it is important to see what mistakes were made in the past that may have affected recent drafts.

Here is the Giants draft history chart. The first row for each position is 2002-2011, the second row is 1992-2001. The column headings are the draft round. I added notes at the end of the row; comments generally are in comparison to the other decade. I do not list all of the players here since that would be too much. If you want to see the actual picks, I would suggest the Giants draft history page at nfl.com.

Number of Players Picked by Draft Round

Position

Decade

1st

2nd

3rd

4th

5th-7th

Comments

WR

02-11

1

3

3

5

College production = more success

92-01

2

2

2

1

Height + speed = failures

TE

02-11

1

2

1

Strong + athletic = better results

92-01

1

2

Big but not athletic = poor results

RB

02-11

2

2

Better results

92-01

2

2

1

1

Many big guys, failures

T

02-11

1

1

2

1

Performance related to draft spot

92-01

1

1

1

2

Performance related to draft spot

G/C

02-11

1

4

One high pick all-pro

92-01

2

3

DE

02-11

2

1

1

2

Size & athleticism

92-01

1

1

2

3

DT

02-11

1

2

1

1

Good results but for the 1st

92-01

1

1

3

Not given positional value

LB

02-11

1

1

4

7

Special teams players

92-01

1

3

5

Special teams players

CB

02-11

2

2

1

4

6'0"+ players

92-01

1

3

1

5

S

02-11

1

4

High when need great

92-01

1

1

2

High when need great

Positional Value

A few things jump out from this chart. Linebackers and interior OL are continually picked low. Wide receivers, cornerbacks, and defensive ends, the "skill" or "impact" players, are given high and numerous picks. I would say that the TE picks would be higher than league average. This shows the Giants value certain positions more than others. People are constantly commenting on how the Giants linebackers could be better. This has been true for the entire decade. THE LINEBACKERS ARE THEIR WEAKEST POSITION BECAUSE THEY PLANNED IT THAT WAY. The Giants would rather improve an already strong position that they value rather than a weak position that they do not value.

Linebackers

The Giants have not favored drafting college linebackers to develop as pro linebackers. The one 2nd round LB pick had a 1st round grade on their board - a BPA pick in a year they had two 2nd rounders. And the damn Rams beat us to Laurinaitis. They have often sought free agents for MLB - Mike Barrow, Mike Brooks, Antonio Pierce. They have drafted college DL for the LB position - Ryan Phillips, Corey Widmer, Reggie Torbor, Clint Sintim (the 2nd rounder), Adrian Tracy. Kiwanuka is playing SAM right now.

BPA

The Giants are also known as a team that takes the best player available. That does not mean that they will ignore needs. It means that they will surprise people with an unexpected pick in the top rounds of the draft. Prince Amukamara and Marvin Austin were not on the high need board last year. Jason Pierre-Paul, Matthias Kiwanuka, and even Justin Tuck were surprises at DE. Kerry Collins was doing fine at QB when they picked Manning. But they were picking at #4, so they felt they had to grab a franchise QB.

"The idea philosophically (is) take the best player who is on the board. That way you are not doing any reaching, you are not trying to make somebody up who doesn't belong there. And I think we have always done that. If you just take the first two picks in the draft (Prince Amukamara and Marvin Austin), we have two guys (who belong in) in the first round. And I think that speaks highly of itself. Do you solve all of your problems? Of course not." - Tom Coughlin, from "Giants add Speed and Size", 4/30/11, www.giants.com

"Size and Speed"

This is something that is often mentioned by Giants fans. The reason why is that these words have come directly out of Jerry Reese's mouth on a frequent basis. I am including a few relevant quotes and a comment to illustrate my point:

"We took a flyer on the guy [Da'rell Scott] because he is big and fast," Reese said. "He is fast, he had a terrific sophomore season. His production fell off, but late in the draft this is what you look for. You look for guys with some redeeming qualities. This guy is big and fast." - from "Giants Add Speed and Size", 4/30/2011, www.giants.com

Here is Jerry Reese on the 2006 draft, from "Jerry Reese Addresses the Draft", by Ken Palmer, 5/23/2006, www.nyg.scout .com:

"He [Gerris Wilkinson] was attractive to us because he was very smart, he has size and speed."

"He [Guy Whimper] just out-athletes everybody right now. He is big, he has long arms, he is fast."

"Gerrick [McPhearson] has good size and speed"

Quick, use three words to describe an offensive lineman:

"James Brewer, Indiana - height, weight, speed, offensive tackle. A bit of a late bloomer, but we think he has a tremendous upside." - "GM Reese on OT James Brewer", 4/30/2011, www.giants.com

And other professionals notice it too:

""The Giants bring a system that really wants to have big guys that are fast," said former NFL general manager Mike Lombardi, an analyst for the NFL Network." - from "Giants vs. Eagles: Eli Manning, Giants aim to end six-game slide against rivals", The Star-Ledger, by Zach Berman, 9/25/2011

A look at the draft picks shows the type of favored player. Jason Pierre-Paul is a great example - one year of major college ball, but look at those backflips and wingspan. In the 2011 draft, they selected Da'rell Scott, Jacquian Williams, Prince Amukamara, and Marvin Austin, all whom turned in great 40-yard dash times for their positions, and none are small for their position. Austin put up the second best combine bench number for DT. James Brewer had a great 40 times for a large 6'8" man, the players his size that beat him were 1st and 2nd round picks. In 2010, they drafted Mitch Petrus (top bench in combine) and Linval Joseph (second-best combine bench at DT). Phillip Dillard had the third-best 40 time at the combine for MLBs/ILBs. In 2009, the speedy Travis Beckum placed first in the bench press among TEs (yeah, I could not believe this either). Probably would have been first in the 40 if he had run. William Beatty finished fifth in the 40 and sixth in the bench among tackles.

Learning From Mistakes / Adapting Over Time

The draft position of RBs and DTs flipped between decades. Poor RB draft results in the 1990's may be partially to blame. In the 1990's and early 2000's they favored WRs that were tall and fast. None of them became good players. In recent years it has been mixed. There have been small speedy guys like Sinorice Moss and Jerel Jernigan, to larger players like Hakeem Nicks and Ramses Barden, to route runners with no distinguishing physical traits or abilities like Steve Smith and Victor Cruz (undrafted). Except for Moss, picked several years ago, all of them had college production. The good college producers in the 1990's (Amani Toomer and Ike Hilliard) had the greatest success as well.

Thinking Ahead

Many of the comments and analysis done on the mock drafts on this site and everywhere else are based upon talent levels at various positions and age. Sometimes oversized contracts or known free agency situations are considered. But it is rare to attempt to analyze needs and free agency for future years. The Giants do that in their drafts. Prince Amukamara was seen as a pure BPA pick but the Giants #2 and #3 CBs are free agents now. James Brewer was drafted last year because Kareem McKenzie completed the last year of his contract. Linval Joseph was a 2nd rounder drafted a year before Barry Cofield hit free agency. The Giants like to slowly develop players. The last Giants rookie to start more than half of the games in his rookie season was Aaron Ross in 2007. The last to win a starting job out of training camp was Barry Cofield in 2006.

Conference Favoritism?

In the 1990's the Giants were well known as a Big 10 team. Looking at the first four rounds, the Giants drafted players from the Big 10 twice as much as any other conference. In the last 10 years, that has changed. The Giants have drafted players from the ACC twice as much as any other conference. Another trend that has emerged is a willingness to spend high picks on smaller school players. In the last 10 years, they have picked players from minor conferences in the first four rounds twice as much as the next highest major conference after the ACC. The way scouting has progressed over time, this may be true of the NFL as a whole.

Character

There has been a lot of talk here in past years about the Giants being a "character" team. While I think that is true, it is not necessarily in relation to the draft. The Giants have been willing to take chances on some players with minor (stupid things college kids do) infractions that have fallen in the draft past the slot their talent deserves. Marvin Austin, Mario Manningham, and Ahmad Bradshaw fit this category. As a result I would believe that all of the Ohio State players are on their board. I think the character reputation comes more from the top of their organization. The owners display a lot of class. The same for the management and coaching staffs. There are no negative comments, there is no gossip. They like to promote people from within the organization. They are generally patient with their staff. The players are allowed more freedom to act as they choose. However, the one thing I would add is that the Giants have shown an interest in drafting and signing players from good academic schools. They have two Ivy Leaguers right now, tops in the NFL, and have had players from Duke, Northwestern, William & Mary, etc. on the roster.

How This Applies to the 2012 Draft

The Giants have needs. Our starting MLB missed last season with an ACL tear and Kiwanuka may eventually be moved back to DE. But the idea that they would draft two LBs early is completely contrary to their draft history and philosophy. More important to the draft is that their 3rd WR and two important CBs are unrestricted free agents. The Giants have a bunch of late-round draft picks and undrafted players at linebacker that show promise. They will sooner roll the dice on one of them being successful than use an early pick on a linebacker instead of a player at a position that has a greater influence on the outcome of a game.

So in the first 2-3 rounds, instead of asking "What are the Giants needs", you should be asking "What kind of player fits the Giants mold? Who has size and speed? Which player is a potential game changer?"

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Big Blue View Roster Predictions with Salary Cap 2012-2014

This post not only looks at the upcoming season's roster and salary cap issues, but also the two following seasons as well. I was particularly interested in reviewing 2013 because so many of our key players are free agents then. Also, the moves made this year affect future years. But why three? It's because I'm a religious man. Does not the holy book say "Three shall be the number thou shalt count, and the number of the counting shall be three."

For easier review and discussion below I divided up the post into sections by year. For each year I list a 53-man roster, which may be a player name or a generic identifier like "5th CB", because it does not matter who the particular player is, just that there is a slot for someone who should be making a minimum salary. I lumped most of the LBs into piles that I'll let the coaches sort out, I'll stick to predicting the approximate cap cost, so don't read anything into who is where. After the player name is an identification if they are a free agent and the specific type. In these first two columns, parentheses indicate that the player or his original free agency status has been replaced. The next column is a brief description of the action in that player slot for the offseason. This covers a variety and combination of actions such as cut, re-signed, reworked, drafted, new free agent. If a player is cut or contract reworked I will provide the old cap number that would have applied. Details on new contracts and drafted player names will appear separately below. The next column is their cap increase from the previous season as listed in their contract as of today. I wanted to show some of the big jumps that affect our cap number; this column becomes less relevant with time. The last column will be the cap number for that season. At the bottom of the roster I will add the roster cap number, the dead contract number (see next paragraph), an allowance for players on injured reserve (or more accurately, their replacements), and the cost of the practice squad to achieve a final cap number. This will be compared to the anticipated cap number, which right now on mostly consensus speculation will be 4% higher in 2012, meaning that NFL revenue increased by 8%. I used this same increase for 2013 and 2014.

Everyone understands the concept of salary. You do this work, you get this much money. But the key factor in salary cap number crunching is signing bonuses. Signing bonuses in the NFL are paid out in a particular year (typically all in the first year of a new contract), but are prorated to count against the salary cap equally throughout the length of a contract (except that the new CBA limits the prorating to five years). The player gets their money up front, and the team gets to lower their immediate cap number, because they can usually offer a very low salary in the first year since the signing bonus replaces salary. So for a 4-year contract for $24 million which includes a $8 million signing bonus, the salaries might be 1, 5, 5, 5 while the cap numbers would be 3, 7, 7, 7 and the actual cash paid out is 9, 5, 5, 5. The signing bonus also impacts releasing players during their contracts. If a player is cut before the end of their contract, and there is remaining signing bonus money that is to be counted against future salary caps, it all becomes counted against the current year's cap. This is called "dead" money. So signing bonuses can be a tactic that players use to become too expensive to be cut. Eli and Baas are in that situation now. Of course, if a player thinks he can get a better contract, he may want a lower signing bonus number and a higher salary number to increase the chance he is let go.

But here are the cap hits from potential player cuts over the next few years:

2012

2013

2014

(in millions of dollars)

Baas

6.8

5.1

3.4

Boley

2.8

1.4

Canty

4.2

2.8

1.4

Diehl

1

0.5

Jacobs

2

Rolle

6

4

2

Snee

4.5

2.25

Tuck

3.6

1.8

Umenyiora

0.75

Webster

4.5

1.75

Roster or workout bonuses are a different story that does not really affect my cap calculations. They are all counted in the year paid. The general concept is that by forcing a team to make an early payout, which will then count against the cap, you are increasing the likelihood that the team will keep the player and pay the remainder of his salary due (otherwise they lose their down payment for nothing) or you are forcing them to cut the player early, giving them the best chance for finding a new team. If they make the payment but later cut him, the player gets to keep the roster bonus to help make up for missing time in free agency.

So here's the main event:

2012

Player/Slot

Status

Action

Increase

Cap Number

(all numbers in millions of dollars)

Manning

2.25

15.2

Carr

UFA

re-sign

1.25

Bradshaw

1.75

4.5

Jacobs

cut - Draft 4th - due $7

2

0.685

Ware

1

Scott

0.5

Hynoski

0.5

Nicks

2

Cruz

0.5

Manningham

UFA

Draft 3rd

-1.5

0.5

Barden

0.75

Jernigan

0.6

Thomas/Hixon/6th WR

UFA

minimum contract

0.675

Ballard

ERFA

IR - Draft 1st

1.75

Pascoe

RFA

re-sign

1.25

Beckum

IR - Hopkins from PS

0.375

Beatty

0.75

McKenzie

UFA

Ugoh

-6

0.675

Brewer

0.465

Diehl

cut - Draft 6th - due $4.3

0.375

Snee

2.25

7.75

Petrus

0.5

Boothe

0.5

1.5

Baas

2.25

5

Umenyiora

cut - due $4.65 - LB spot

0.75

0.5

Tuck

1.25

7.5

Pierre-Paul

0.25

3.75

Tollefson

UFA

minimum or rookie FA

0.375

Trattou

0.5

Canty

0.5

7.67

Joseph

1

Austin

0.85

Bernard

UFA

re-sign

1.25

Goff

UFA

re-sign

1

Boley

0.5

5.65

Kiwanuka

rework - due $5.5

2.5

3.5

Williams

0.5

Jones/Blackburn

0.5

Sintim/Herzlich

cut Sintim - due $1.25

0.5

Paysinger/Tracy

1 LB gets Osi's slot

0.5

Webster

1.5

8.75

Thomas

UFA

re-sign

1

Ross

UFA

Draft 2nd

-1.5

0.685

Amukamara

-0.5

1.75

5th CB

0.565

Rolle

5.5

9

Phillips

0.25

2

Grant

UFA

Draft 5th

0.375

Sash

0.5

Martin/special teamer

UFA

re-sign

0.675

Weatherford

UFA

re-sign

1.5

Tynes

1.5

DeOssie

1.1

Roster Cap Number

14.5

113.995

Dead Contracts

4.15

IR Adjustment

5

Practice Squad

0.75

TEAM SALARY

123.895

Salary Cap

124

Cut: Jacobs, Diehl, Umenyiora

Not Re-signed: Manningham, McKenzie, Ross, Grant, role players not taking minimums

Re-signed: Carr (3 years $4.25 million), Pascoe (1 year $1.25 million), Bernard (2 years $2.5 million), Goff (3 years, $5.5 million - annual 1, 2.25, 2.25), TThomas (1 year $1 million), Weatherford (4 years $7.5 million, $2 million signing bonus), role players taking minimums

Reworked: Kiwanuka (5 years $40 million, $7.5 million signing bonus), starts this year

Drafted: 1st - Dwayne Allen, TE, Clemson - Witten-type player, more agile than fast, blocker but not a pile pusher, good hands

2nd - Brandon Boykin, CB/RS, Georgia - Our new nickel CB, fast with good return skills, small but tough, good tackler

3rd - A.J. Jenkins, WR, Illinois - Speed WR fills Manningham's role

4th - Vick Ballard, RB, Mississippi State - Between the tackles strong runner

5th - Neiko Thorpe, FS, Auburn - Tall CB converted to FS last year

6th - Blake DeChristopher, G/T, Virginia Tech - power run blocker that can pull, college RT but NFL guard

This is not going to be popular. But as you can see we have large increases to the cap numbers of players under contract. And the new CBA lowered the salary cap from the 2009 level. So teams near the top need to shed money. There is no space for additions, especially because I am saving cap room for 2013. Kiwanuka gets extended because it saves cap room this year, and the early signing bonus allows us to get a lower overall price. He will be playing more DE. Osi and Diehl are gone simply because they are the cheapest to shed. Jacobs is not worth his salary. We don't have the cap room to be patient with Sintim, and he is a free agent next year anyway. Everyone loves Tolly, but if some team shows him a little money, it would be hard for us to match. There are certainly ways to move around a quarter million here, a quarter million there. But this should illustrate the seriousness of our situation.

The league and draft boards are filled with QBs, so Carr is never going to get a starting shot again. But you find a backup you like and pay him decent money or you wind up like Indy last year. Guarantee his contract to keep him around. Guarantee most of Weatherford's deal too to keep him. Goff starts out low so we can cut him if he fails. Pascoe needs to get a decent payday since he is the only experienced TE on the roster, although I am bringing over Hopkins from the practice squad. But the $1.25 million protects Pascoe because it would cost a team a 6th rounder to sign him away. Bernard could probably get less, or be let go for the savings. But he had some good snaps this year, so I kept him around with a little raise to keep him from wandering off.

Where Brewer was drafted in the 4th last year, you expect a starter at right tackle. So it's going to have to be him. We can't afford to keep Diehl around as an option, and is a draft pick this year going to start? Draft a right tackle in the 2nd, and Thomas' knee can't cut it, all of a sudden Rolle is back at nickel and Sash is starting. Trust in Reese that the less visible draft picks last year will perform. You don't have a choice. There will be competition for the starting CB, MLB, and LG jobs.

2013

Player/Slot

Status

Action

Increase

Cap Number

(all numbers in millions of dollars)

Manning

2.25

17.5

Carr

1.5

Bradshaw

0.75

5.25

(Jacobs)

(UFA)

replaced by 4th

0.85

Ware

UFA

low pick or UDFA

-1

0.375

Scott

0.55

Hynoski

0.5

Nicks

0.25

2.25

Cruz

RFA

re-sign

3

(Manningham)

replaced by 3rd

0.6

Barden

UFA

minimum or low pick

0.465

Jernigan

0.7

Thomas/Hixon/6th WR

minimum contract

0.675

(Ballard)

(RFA)

replaced by 1st

1.25

Pascoe

UFA

Draft 4th

0.4

Beckum

UFA

Bllrd/Psco/Hopk/Beck

1.75

Beatty

UFA

re-sign

4

(McKenzie) Ugoh

0.81

Brewer

0.55

(Diehl)

replaced by 6th- due $4.6

0.5

Snee

cut - Draft 2nd - due $8.75

1

0.75

Petrus

0.5

Boothe

UFA

re-sign

1.5

Baas

1.25

6.25

(Umenyiora)

(UFA)

Draft 1st

2

Tuck

reworked - due $8.3

0.8

5.8

Pierre-Paul

0.5

4.25

Tollefson

minimum, rookie FA, or LB

0.5

Trattou

or LB

0.5

Canty

0.25

8

Joseph

1

Austin

0.25

1

Bernard

1.25

Goff

2.25

Boley

0.25

6

Kiwanuka

(UFA)

9

Williams

0.55

Jones/Blackburn

0.55

Herzlich

or low draft pick

0.5

Paysinger/Tracy

0.55

Webster

reworked - due $9.25

0.5

4.75

Thomas

Draft 5th

0.4

(Ross)

replaced by 2nd

0.85

Amukamara

0.5

2.25

5th CB

0.675

Rolle

cut - Draft 3rd - due $9.25

0.25

0.6

Phillips

UFA

re-sign

3

(Grant)

replaced by 5th

0.465

Sash

0.55

Martin/special teamer

re-sign

0.675

Weatherford

2

Tynes

UFA

re-sign

1.5

DeOssie

UFA

re-sign

1.1

Roster Cap Number

7.8

113.49

Dead Contracts

6.25

IR Adjustment

6

Practice Squad

1

TEAM SALARY

126.74

Salary Cap

128

Cut: Snee, Rolle

Not Re-signed: Ware, more than one TE, role players not taking minimums

Re-signed: Cruz (4 years $28 million, $8 million signing bonus), someone at TE, Beatty (3 years $14 million, $3 million signing bonus), Boothe (2 years $3 million), Phillips (5 years $30 million, $10 million signing bonus), Tynes (3 years $4.5 million), DeOssie (3 years $3.3 million), role players taking minimums

Reworked: Tuck (2 years $10 million, $6 million signing bonus), Webster (3 years $13 million, $6 million signing bonus)

Drafted: 1st - William Gholston, DE, Michigan State - In a loaded pass rusher draft, a prototypical Giants DE falls to us - or Devin Taylor, DE, South Carolina

2nd - Chance Warmack, G, Alabama - The next Snee, agile and strong

3rd - Rashard Hall, S, Clemson - Good size, athletic

4th - Michael Williams, TE, Alabama - The best blocking TE in years, 6-6 270

I think this year will make people happier. We resigned all of our key guys. Let's hear some celebration. "Oh baby Reese, Reese got what we need..." Phillips is expensive but the safety talent out there is awful. Cruz probably gives us a small discount to stay near his family and play with Eli, and because he is a RFA. Beatty has not proven himself as a top tackle yet, I'm watching Joe Staley this offseason to get an idea of where Beatty's value lies. But money needs to be found for these guys. I fought long and hard with the numbers to keep Canty. Snee, Webster, and Tuck are all in the last and most expensive year of their deals. Snee was the one to go because his position can least justify the high salary. That leaves Boothe, Petrus, DeChristopher, and Warmack to fight it out for the two guard spots. Tuck will likely retire soon, as I can see him, like Strahan, recognizing when he is done. His new deal and Webster's were designed to pay them the same amount of cash this year, but extend them at lower salaries in future years to flatten out their cap numbers. Both are at the age where they have seen the last of increasing pay. Rolle is gone because it makes no sense to use 10% of your cap on the safety position. At this point he will likely be the highest-paid safety in the league. I'd rather keep KP over him.

There are some ways to free up more cap space. They could keep Christian Hopkins as the third TE and let the older TEs go; I put in a generous cap number. If Goff does not win the starting MLB job he can also be cut to save money. Also, Eli's annual raises over $2 million each year have to be renegotiated. It eats up half the cap increase. If he wants to keep his WRs, he's got to make the cap room available. Maybe he enables us to keep Snee for one more year. Or he antes up if our WRs get better offers.

Usually the Giants are drafting players before they are needed. But the new salary cap and our past free agent moves have limited our ability to do that. Snee and Rolle are being replaced by picks in this year's draft, although I do not necessarily think the draft picks start right away. There's a good pool of competition at guard, and at safety you have Sash, Thorpe (last year's fifth), and possibly even Chad Jones in the mix. Not ideal but something you have to do for a year. Even if they find a way to keep Snee I think they still draft Warmack, unless Petrus has proven himself, but he is a free agent next year and we cannot afford to give him a big raise if he does play very well.

2014

Player/Slot

Status

Action

Increase

Cap Number

(all numbers in millions of dollars)

Manning

2.1

19.6

Carr

1.5

Bradshaw

0.25

5.5

(Jacobs)

replaced by 4th

1

(Ware)

Draft 3rd

0.6

Scott

0.65

Hynoski

0.65

Nicks

UFA

re-sign

3

Cruz

8

(Manningham)

replaced by 3rd

0.75

Barden

minimum or low pick

0.55

Jernigan

0.8

Thomas/Hixon/6th WR

minimum contract

0.81

(Ballard)

replaced by 1st

1.75

Pascoe

replaced by 4th

0.5

Beckum

3rd TE

1.75

Beatty

4

(McKenzie) Ugoh

0.81

Brewer

0.65

(Diehl)

(UFA)

replaced by 6th

0.55

(Snee)

(UFA)

replaced by 2nd

1

1

Petrus

UFA

minimum or low pick

0.75

Boothe

1.5

Baas

0.5

6.75

(Umenyiora)

replaced by 1st

2

Tuck

(UFA)

-6.75

6

Pierre-Paul

reworked - due $4.5

0.25

6.325

Tollefson

rookie FA or LB

0.55

Trattou

0.65

Canty

cut - Draft 2nd - due $8.25

0.25

0.75

Joseph

UFA

re-signed

2.5

Austin

0.25

1.15

Bernard

UFA

re-signed

1.25

Goff

2.25

Boley

UFA

Draft 4th

-6

0.4

Kiwanuka

9.5

Williams

0.65

Jones/Blackburn

0.65

Herzlich

or low draft pick

0.5

Paysinger/Tracy

0.65

Webster

(UFA)

5

(Thomas)

replaced by 5th

0.5

(Ross)

replaced by 2nd

1

Amukamara

-0.25

2

5th CB

Draft 1st

2.25

Rolle

replaced by 3rd - due $9.25

0.7

Phillips

6.5

(Grant)

replaced by 5th

0.55

Sash

0.65

Martin/special teamer

0.675

Weatherford

2

Tynes

1.5

DeOssie

1.1

Roster Cap Number

-8.4

122.12

Dead Contracts

1.4

IR Adjustment

6

Practice Squad

1

TEAM SALARY

130.52

Salary Cap

132

Cut: Canty

Not Re-signed: Boley

Re-signed: Nicks (5 years $38 million, $10 million signing bonus), Bernard (1 year $1.25 million), Joseph (3 years $9 million) - not really sure on this last one, figured the cap number I gave could also cover a larger deal with signing bonus

Reworked: Pierre-Paul (5 years $55 million, $15 million signing bonus)

Drafted: 1st - CB - The future replacement for Webster

2nd - DT - The replacement for Canty

3rd - RB - The future replacement for Bradshaw

4th - LB - Lots of LB contracts expiring, could use a higher pick for once

Canty's run ends in the final year of his deal, not a huge surprise. Boley should be replaceable by someone in our stable of linebackers, although possibly we could work out a short deal to keep him for less money. The big key was securing our franchise players, Nicks and JPP. Nicks could probably get a little more money, but adding $500k a year does not affect my numbers. I resigned JPP a year early. I originally started working on a new contract him for him as a way to save money in 2014, but the end result paid him more. I kept it anyway. Starting him a year early allows us to get better contract terms. Possibly the contract gets renegotiated during the season, which would push off the cap hit until 2015.

The draft returns to the Reese of old, grabbing players before they are needed. I debated leaving a high pick open as an "emergency pick", assuming that one high draft pick from an earlier year was a bust. This could certainly still be done, as most of these picks could be pushed back a round or saved on a need basis for next year. But I felt it was more valuable to see where I would go if I could. You may notice that I have not been guessing at lower round players. This is because I decided to assume that none would be valuable starters for the franchise, and the picks would be used as needed to fill depth at certain positions such as OL, WR, and LB.

While I did not analyze 2015 in detail, it should be noted that there will be a lot of pressure to meet that salary cap since the new Nicks and JPP contracts will kick in full force. Coming off the books to help pay for those will be Bradshaw and Tuck, both of whom should be done based upon their injury history. Maybe we can keep Bradshaw around for cheap. You also have expiring contracts from the huge roster class from the 2011 draft. Amukamara, Austin, Brewer, JWilliams, and Hynoski are starters on my roster, and perhaps one or two of the other linebackers as well. Webster is the only potential cut that I see, although Baas will finally be cheap enough (in terms of dead money) to be a cut option. Eli will be a free agent in 2016, so I think that contract will have to be reworked if not done previously. At this point he may be the highest-paid player in football. He will probably have to shave about $5 million a year off his cap number to keep the team running strong.

A note on player contracts. They are difficult to predict with great accuracy with the new CBA rules still kicking in. The cap is in place, but the floor is not in full effect until 2013. Right now we will be seeing player dumping to get under the cap, which will gradually give way to larger signings to make the floor. The underlying fact, however, is the teams that have been willing to spend money can no longer spend it, and the teams that are cheapskates are unlikely to spend a dime more than they have to. So I do not see a great change in player salaries from where they are today. I think the really high contracts, except for QBs, disappear, since for the most part the big free agent signings have been busts. I see it being more likely that teams will cluster good players in the $5-$10 million range as I have done here.

Right now only a handful of WRs are making more than $9 million a season, guys like the two Johnsons, Fitzgerald, and Marshall. Greg Jennings is at the bottom of that list making $9 million even. This helps me think a number of around $8 million was reasonable for Nicks and Cruz. I think factors such as the two Super Bowl wins and playing with Eli give us a cushion where other teams would have to offer more than $1 million more a season to take them away. Cruz is also a local product with nearby family, and we could give him as low as $2.5 million in his RFA season to keep him, because I don't see teams giving up the money plus a first round pick to snatch him away. Also, several years of strong drafts at WR should continue to depress salaries at the position. In 2011 there was no action except for Sidney Rice, and that did not produce good results. We'll see what Manningham draws this year.

This whole scenario shows no major free agents signing with the team because of our lack of cap space. Sure, we could let one of our expensive free agents go and sign someone cheaper. But I think we will continue to search the bargain bin for players willing to take league minimum. We had a lot of success with our low-cost signings last year. Players seem to continually choose the Giants over other teams. With the second Super Bowl win under Eli under our belts, I think you will again see lots of interest from players looking to win a championship before they retire. So we may be able to fill some important holes with veterans willing to get paid less to win.

If you have any questions, let me know. I have all of the information in one large spreadsheet so that I can run various scenarios, also plan to keep this updated on a consistent basis into the future so I don't have to do all of this work again.

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Mocking The Draft Giants Draft History and Future

Warning - this is long. If you want to cheat and just get instructions on who to mock the Giants, you can skip to the end. This may be more appropriate on Big Blue View, but I know not to post draft discussions on there until the season is over. I just wanted to show that there is a reason for my comments on mocks.

On this site we rely upon the fans of other teams to give us insights into the personnel decisions of other teams. But what if we are all idiots? The Giants fans here (myself among them) frequently pontificate on the drafting strategies of our team. Especially since every mocker this year insists on giving us at least one linebacker. It's good to know that no one thinks we have any other holes.

I decided to do an in-depth analysis of the Giants' draft history to back up my statements. I went back over the past two decades, with picks grouped into 1992-2001 or 2002-2011. This may seem like too long of a time to be relevant. But there have been only three GMs and four head coaches in that time. The GMs were hired from within, and three of the head coaches were assistants under Parcells in the 1980's. So the thought process has not varied greatly (although we did start the 90's with a 3-4 defense). Since the core staff has remained the same, I also think that it is important to see what mistakes were made in the past that may have affected recent drafts.

Here is the Giants draft history chart. The first row for each position is 2002-2011, the second row is 1992-2001. The column headings are the draft round. I added notes at the end of the row; comments generally are in comparison to the other decade. I do not list all of the players here since that would be too much. If you want to see the actual picks, I would suggest the Giants draft history page at nfl.com.

Number of Players Picked by Draft Round

Position

Decade

1st

2nd

3rd

4th

5th-7th

Comments

WR

02-11

1

3

3

5

College production = more success

92-01

2

2

2

1

Height + speed = failures

TE

02-11

1

2

1

Strong + athletic = better results

92-01

1

2

Big but not athletic = poor results

RB

02-11

2

2

Better results

92-01

2

2

1

1

Many big guys, failures

T

02-11

1

1

2

1

Performance related to draft spot

92-01

1

1

1

2

Performance related to draft spot

G/C

02-11

1

4

One high pick all-pro

92-01

2

3

DE

02-11

2

1

1

2

Size & athleticism

92-01

1

1

2

3

DT

02-11

1

2

1

1

Good results but for the 1st

92-01

1

1

3

Not given positional value

LB

02-11

1

1

4

7

Special teams players

92-01

1

3

5

Special teams players

CB

02-11

2

2

1

4

6'0"+ players

92-01

1

3

1

5

S

02-11

1

4

High when need great

92-01

1

1

2

High when need great

Positional Value

A few things jump out from this chart. Linebackers and interior OL are continually picked low. Wide receivers, cornerbacks, and defensive ends, the "skill" or "impact" players, are given high and numerous picks. I would say that the TE picks would be higher than league average. This shows the Giants value certain positions more than others. People are constantly commenting on how the Giants linebackers could be better. This has been true for the entire decade. THE LINEBACKERS ARE THEIR WEAKEST POSITION BECAUSE THEY PLANNED IT THAT WAY. The Giants would rather improve an already strong position that they value rather than a weak position that they do not value.

Linebackers

The Giants have not favored drafting college linebackers to develop as pro linebackers. The one 2nd round LB pick had a 1st round grade on their board - a BPA pick in a year they had two 2nd rounders. And the damn Rams beat us to Laurinaitis. They have often sought free agents for MLB - Mike Barrow, Mike Brooks, Antonio Pierce. They have drafted college DL for the LB position - Ryan Phillips, Corey Widmer, Reggie Torbor, Clint Sintim (the 2nd rounder), Adrian Tracy. Kiwanuka is playing SAM right now.

BPA

The Giants are also known as a team that takes the best player available. That does not mean that they will ignore needs. It means that they will surprise people with an unexpected pick in the top rounds of the draft. Prince Amukamara and Marvin Austin were not on the high need board last year. Jason Pierre-Paul, Matthias Kiwanuka, and even Justin Tuck were surprises at DE. Kerry Collins was doing fine at QB when they picked Manning. But they were picking at #4, so they felt they had to grab a franchise QB.

"The idea philosophically (is) take the best player who is on the board. That way you are not doing any reaching, you are not trying to make somebody up who doesn't belong there. And I think we have always done that. If you just take the first two picks in the draft (Prince Amukamara and Marvin Austin), we have two guys (who belong in) in the first round. And I think that speaks highly of itself. Do you solve all of your problems? Of course not." - Tom Coughlin, from "Giants add Speed and Size", 4/30/11, www.giants.com

"Size and Speed"

This is something that is often mentioned by Giants fans. The reason why is that these words have come directly out of Jerry Reese's mouth on a frequent basis. I am including a few relevant quotes and a comment to illustrate my point:

"We took a flyer on the guy [Da'rell Scott] because he is big and fast," Reese said. "He is fast, he had a terrific sophomore season. His production fell off, but late in the draft this is what you look for. You look for guys with some redeeming qualities. This guy is big and fast." - from "Giants Add Speed and Size", 4/30/2011, www.giants.com

Here is Jerry Reese on the 2006 draft, from "Jerry Reese Addresses the Draft", by Ken Palmer, 5/23/2006, www.nyg.scout .com:

"He [Gerris Wilkinson] was attractive to us because he was very smart, he has size and speed."

"He [Guy Whimper] just out-athletes everybody right now. He is big, he has long arms, he is fast."

"Gerrick [McPhearson] has good size and speed"

Quick, use three words to describe an offensive lineman:

"James Brewer, Indiana - height, weight, speed, offensive tackle. A bit of a late bloomer, but we think he has a tremendous upside." - "GM Reese on OT James Brewer", 4/30/2011, www.giants.com

And other professionals notice it too:

""The Giants bring a system that really wants to have big guys that are fast," said former NFL general manager Mike Lombardi, an analyst for the NFL Network." - from "Giants vs. Eagles: Eli Manning, Giants aim to end six-game slide against rivals", The Star-Ledger, by Zach Berman, 9/25/2011

A look at the draft picks shows the type of favored player. Jason Pierre-Paul is a great example - one year of major college ball, but look at those backflips and wingspan. In the 2011 draft, they selected Da'rell Scott, Jacquian Williams, Prince Amukamara, and Marvin Austin all whom turned in great 40-yard dash times for their positions, and none are undersized. Austin put up the second best combine bench number for DT. James Brewer had a great times for a large 6'8" man, the players his size that beat him were 1st and 2nd round picks. In 2010, they drafted Mitch Petrus (top bench in combine) and Linval Joseph (second-best combine bench at DT). Phillip Dillard had the third-best 40 time at the combine for MLBs/ILBs. In 2009, the speedy Travis Beckum placed first in the bench press among TEs. Probably would have been first in the 40 if he had run. William Beatty finished fifth in the 40 and sixth in the bench among tackles.

Learning From Mistakes / Adapting Over Time

The draft position of RBs and DTs flipped between decades. Poor RB draft results in the 1990's may be partially to blame. In the 1990's and early 2000's they favored WRs that were tall and fast. None of them became good players. In recent years it has been mixed. There have been small speedy guys like Sinorice Moss and Jerel Jernigan, to larger players like Hakeem Nicks and Ramses Barden, to route runners with no distinguishing physical traits or abilities like Steve Smith and Victor Cruz (undrafted). Except for Moss, picked several years ago, all of them had college production. The good college producers in the 1990's (Amani Toomer and Ike Hilliard) had the greatest success as well.

Thinking Ahead

Many of the comments and analysis done on the mock drafts on this site and everywhere else are based upon talent levels at various positions and age. Sometimes oversized contracts or known free agency situations are considered. But it is rare to attempt to analyze needs and free agency for future years. The Giants do that in their drafts. Prince Amukamara was seen as a pure BPA pick but the Giants #2 and #3 CBs are free agents at the end of this season. James Brewer was drafted this year because Kareem McKenzie is in the last year of his contract. Linval Joseph was a 2nd rounder drafted a year before Barry Cofield hit free agency. The Giants like to slowly develop players. The last Giants rookie to start more than half of the games in his rookie season was Aaron Ross in 2007. The last to win a starting job out of training camp was Barry Cofield in 2006.

Conference Favoritism?

In the 1990's the Giants were well known as a Big 10 team. Looking at the first four rounds, the Giants drafted players from the Big 10 twice as much as any other conference. In the last 10 years, that has changed. The Giants have drafted players from the ACC twice as much as any other conference. Another trend that has emerged is a willingness to spend high picks on smaller school players. In the last 10 years, they have picked players from minor conferences in the first four rounds twice as much as the next highest major conference after the ACC. The way scouting has progressed over time, this may be true of the NFL as a whole.

Character

There has been a lot of talk here in past years about the Giants being a "character" team. While I think that is true, it is not necessarily in relation to the draft. The Giants have been willing to take chances on some players with minor (stupid things college kids do) infractions that have fallen in the draft past the slot their talent deserves. Marvin Austin, Mario Manningham, and Ahmad Bradshaw fit this category. As a result I would believe that all of the Ohio State players are on their board. I think the character reputation comes more from the top of their organization. The owners display a lot of class. The same for the management and coaching staffs. There are no negative comments, there is no gossip. They like to promote people from within the organization. They are generally patient with their staff. The players are allowed more freedom to act as they choose. However, the one thing I would add is that the Giants have shown an interest in drafting and signing players from good academic schools. They have two Ivy Leaguers right now, tops in the NFL, and have had players from Duke, Northwestern, William & Mary, etc. on the roster.

How This Applies to Mocks Here

The Giants have needs. Our starting MLB missed this season with an ACL tear and Kiwanuka may eventually be moved back to DE. But the idea that they would draft two LBs early is completely contrary to their draft history and philosophy. More important to the draft is that their 3rd WR and two important CBs are unrestricted free agents. The Giants have a bunch of late-round draft picks and undrafted players at linebacker that show promise. They will sooner roll the dice on one of them being successful than use an early pick on a linebacker instead of a player at a position that has a greater influence on the outcome of a game.

So in the first 2-3 rounds, instead of asking "What are the Giants needs", you should be asking "What kind of player fits the Giants mold? Who has size and speed? Which player is a potential game changer?"

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Mocking The Draft 2012 Compensatory Draft Pick Predictions

I have again this year decided to try to predict compensatory draft picks to feed my draft obsession. Last year I did rather well, in that I was able to correctly assign picks for players with the exception of Seattle and Baltimore, where a midseason contract renegotiation with Cory Redding that I was not aware of gave Baltimore a pick instead of Seattle receiving a rather high pick from losing Burleson. I was also off by a round for a few picks, most of which I can relate to playing time differential.

I again claim no credit for the basis behind this work, as I did nothing original. I shamelessly used AdamJT13's publicly posted guidelines as best as I could. You can find his work at adamjt13.blogspot.com. Unfortunately it looks like he has abandoned his research. If you are unfamiliar with his work, the basics that affect comp picks are:

1. Players that are cut or not tendered as RFAs and ERFAs are not counted.

2. Players earning minimum salaries do not count.

3. Each player signed cancels out one player lost.

4. The round of the pick awarded is primarily determined by the annual value of the contract signed. Signed players cancel out lost players with equal contracts, then lower contracts, before canceling out higher contracts.

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Mocking The Draft ct17 4-round Dec mock

Had to get this posted before the order reset again. I use NEPatriotsDraft, which updates the draft order by strength of schedule each week, and I modified it for playoffs.

I placed guys based upon where they were on my board, then look at team need. If you want to debate a player's draft position, I'd be glad to, too much talk about need and not enough about the players.

Any player that I thought had a shot at the 1st round in 2013 or a large improvement I kept out as "returned to school". Names of note were Osweiler, Wilson (Arkansas), Wagner, Eifert, Rhodes (Florida State), and Worthy.

So here goes:

FIRST ROUND:

1 (1) - IND - Ryan Lindley, QB, San Diego State - Just kidding, it's Luck.

2 (2) - MIN - Matt Kalil, LT, USC - Obvious. Best player, positional value.

3 (3) - STL - Justin Blackmon, WR, Oklahoma State - Strong look at Richardson here. Considered Claiborne as well. Two guys that will play well on turf. But Blackmon is my #3, and Lloyd is not the next Holt - 1 good season, not young.

4 (4) - JAC - Morris Claiborne, CB, LSU - Between Claiborne and Floyd. Sorry, no senior captain with a clean record here.

5 (5) - CAR - Michael Floyd, WR, Notre Dame - I don't see this as much of a need, but he is the best non-QB on the board.

6 (6) - MIA - Matt Barkley, QB, USC - Ready to play right away, looks good in the pocket.

7 (7) - WAS - Robert Griffen, QB, Baylor - I bet he could complete passes upside down. Deep ball accuracy, accuracy on the run is unbelievable.

8 (8) - ARI - Jonathan Martin, LT, Stanford - He does not belong any higher. The need locks in this pick.

9 (9) - PHI - Alshon Jeffrey, WR, South Carolina - The Eagles I know don't pick a LB this high. And this creates a monster WR core. Yes, they still extend Jackson too.

10 (10) - CLE - Trent Richardson, RB, Alabama - A good value here, and you need weapons to help McCoy. Who gets one more year.

11 (11) - KC - Landry Jones, QB, Oklahoma - No one seems to think Cassel is anything special. Which means you need a better QB. And they need to keep their starting CBs. Yes, Jones had a bad game yesterday. But you can't let that affect the pick. Go back on MTD to 2009 around this time and see what we were saying about Bradford. Or 2010 about Locker. Cassel is entering the cheapest year of his contract, Jones does not have to play right away.

12 (12) - SEA - Quentin Coples, DE/DT, North Carolina - I think Seattle can make use of Coples' abilities with they way their D-line operates.

13 (13) - SD - Dre Kirkpatrick, CB, Alabama - Gave a lot of thought to his teammate Upshaw here, especially with Gilchrist and Wright drafted last year. I would have grabbed Jeffrey if he had fallen. CB and OLB are positions that will be hit by free agency soon, and I'd keep Phillips over an aging Jammer and Cason.

14 (14) - TB - Alfonzo Dennard, CB, Nebraska - Need and value match, thought about Konz here as well.

15 (15) - BUF - Courtney Upshaw, OLB, Alabama - Merriman is just dead weight. Upshaw is a true OLB that can get the QB but also play the run and some coverage.

16 (16) - TEN - Luke Kuechly, MLB, Boston College - Ruud has been a bust and Kuechly is just too good to pass up. He makes so many tackles because he's always in the right place. Always.

17 (17) - NYJ - Mike Adams, RT, Ohio State - It really vexes them that they cannot run or protect Sanchez, this pick solves both problems. I think Adams could play LT, but obviously not here with Ferguson.

18 (18) - DEN - David Wilson, RB, Virginia Tech - Great combination of size and speed, Fox will want to run the ball to help Tebow. The only other pick that I considered here was Zack Brown, but three LBs were drafted last year.

19 (19) - NYG - Peter Konz, C/G - Powerful but can pull, perfect Giants lineman. Although not a typical position pick this high, like the Jets, the desire to run the ball trumps all else.

20 (20) - CLE from ATL - Mohammed Sanu, WR, Rutgers - They need a do-it-all WR that can run all of the routes, get open, and make the catch. That's Sanu. The size and speed to play outside, yet does most of his work over the middle. Zach Brown again considered here, but the offense needs more help.

21 (21) - DAL - Janorris Jenkins, CB, Northern Alabama - Proved his ability last year against top SEC WRs, pot smoking at college is hardly a unique incident.

22 (22) - CIN from OAK - David DeCastro, G, Stanford - Great on his feet, tough. Between him and Boling it is hard to tell who will play left and who will play right, one will probably have to bulk up a little. Much more athletic combo than big Bobbie Williams and Livings.

23 (23) - CIN - Chase Minnifield, CB, Virginia - Physical player yet quick enough to play the slot for Virginia, Mike Brown knows the lineage well.

24 (24) - CHI - Dwight Jones, WR, North Carolina - Like Cleveland, they need a multi-ability WR. Knox and Hester are fast (understatement of the year), but someone has to run the full route tree.

25 (25) - DET - Riley Reiff, LT, Iowa - I think it's safe to call Backus old now. Many have Reiff higher, but I think that is ignoring talent for need. He lets a lot of rushers get inside him and needs some work. But he has the athletic ability to play the left side, and teams picking this low can't afford to pass good left tackle prospects if they have a need.

26 (26) - HOU - Brandon Thompson, NT, Clemson - A huge value pick that could have gone earlier, I'd consider giving him to KC at 11. But 1-tech DTs do not have positional value and a lot of higher teams are set in the middle.

27 (27) - NE - Melvin Ingram, OLB/DE, South Carolina - The ability to play multiple positions, but with Haynesworth gone and Ellis and Carter short-timers it would make sense to go back to a 3-4. I love his speed off the end. But he could play LDE. Or rush DT.

28 (28) - NE from NO - Jared Crick, DE/DT - Watch his tape from 2010. Or the Wisconsin game this year. Gets push on double teams. Bull rushes single blockers. Chases QBs to the sideline. I could give a crap that he's not 300 lbs. I look for results. He's a 3-4 DE in the Seymour mold, but he could play 3-tech DT like he does at Nebraska.

29 (29) - BAL - Vontaze Burfict, ILB, Arizona State - It helps to have Ray Lewis as a mentor. A defense with veteran leaders to try and straighten Burfict out. Because he needs straightening. Physical attacker needs to improve his thinking processes.

30 (30) - SF - Jayron Hosley, CB, Virginia Tech - Quick feet and tough for a small guy, a slot CB that will hit you. Sticks to WRs like glue. Keeps the tall Culliver outside.

31 (31) - PIT - Barrett Jones, LG/T, Alabama - Strong and agile, can play multiple positions, fits the Steelers mold. I'm leaning towards left guard, especially with my later picks.

32 (32) - GB - Vincent Curry, OLB, Marshall - A late riser on my board. I see him as an OLB, he hustles around the field and covers ground. Which is good because with Matthews on the other side he won't be a full-time rusher.

SECOND ROUND:

1 (33) - IND - Mike Brewster, C/G, Ohio State - Not the position Indy fans want, but I do not see a greater need I like here (see how far down my next WR and CB are picked). Indy has more regular players (starters and subs that play numerous snaps) as free agents than any other team, including at guard, so there are holes to fill. Brewster is not the strongest in this class, but he moves well and is intelligent - teams line up their DTs away from him, and he does a good job figuring out which guard to help - or often helps both.

2 (34) - STL - Zach Brown, OLB, North Carolina - A BPA pick that fell because of so many 3-4 teams drafting in the 20's. Rams have so many holes, they have to really focus on BPA.

3 (35) - MIN - Markelle Martin, FS, Oklahoma State - He's higher on my board than many others, I could also see him going to the Rams. Covers a lot of ground, makes intelligent decisions.

4 (36) - CAR - Kevin Zeitler, G, Wisconsin - The best offensive lineman left on my board, he can play left or right sides. Don't see any other good players to fit needs here, and this is a need.

5 (37) - MIA - Don'ta Hightower, ILB, Alabama - A BPA pick, can't believe he fell this far. Faster than everyone thinks (he played injured last year). Big hitter.

6 (38) - JAC - Brandon Jenkins, RDE, Florida State - I'm liking him more as a RDE now than an OLB, Kampman cannot be relied upon, a different kind of player than the larger DEs on the Jags roster. Small but moves off the left tackle well.

7 (39) - PHI from ARI - Manti Te'o, MLB, Notre Dame - This is where the top MLB usually falls. Although this does not match Philly draft history, I think LB is a special concern this year. Te'o and Chaney can play either MLB or SAM.

8 (40) - PHI - Nick Foles, QB, Arizona - A shocker. One QB goes to the desert, one comes back from the desert. I have him as a first round talent. Threads the needle more than any other QB in the draft. Vick is getting hurt often, backup QB gains high priority. Or future starter????

9 (41) - CLE - Whitney Mercilus, RDE, Illinois - Still looking for pieces to complete the swtich to 4-3, WILLs here but RDE ranks higher.

10 (42) - KC - Lamar Miller, RB, Miami - With Charles coming off a major injury and Jones aging, I see this as a necessary pick.

11 (43) - SEA - Ryan Tannehill, QB, Texas A&M - Really rethinking this after watching the Texas game. Physical skills but mentally lacking, but he is "new" at QB. Fans claim they want a mobile QB. Who starts in 2012 would be a big question. But without trading up, it's either Tannehill or wait until 2013.

12 (44) - SD - Dwayne Allen, TE, Clemson - A value pick to a team that knows how to use him, I keep reading reports that Gates' injury is long-term trouble, and he is not young.

13 (45) - TB - Kelechi Osemele, RT/G, Iowa State - I think very little of Trueblood, and the interior line could use help too. Blount needs big holes.

14 (46) - WAS - Casey Heyward, CB, Vanderbilt - Had this pick last week when Washington was higher, more comfortable with it now that they moved down the draft. Also happy to see a Redskins fan suggest it in another post. Heyward, like Jenkins, proved his worth one-on-one against top WRs..

15 (47) - BUF - Jarius Wright, WR, Arkansas - I have this guy at the top of the 2nd tier of WRs, can replace Parrish who was never that successful.

16 (48) - NYJ - Marvin McNutt, WR, Iowa - A late season riser with good hands and good routes, runs more of the tree than Edwards or Burress.

17 (49) - DEN - Stephen Gilmore, CB, South Carolina - He's athletic but I have him further back then most because his coverage skills are not great. Send him to live with Bailey.

18 (50) - NYG - LaMichael James, RB, Oregon - I'm not sure if I believe this myself. Bradshaw is a constant injury threat and Jacobs is declining, James brings speed and toughness for his size. Almost went Pead here.

19 (51) - TEN - Mark Barron, S, Alabama - Took a hard look at Ben Jones here. Titans have free agents and age at the safety position, and Barron is a very smart defender ready to play right away.

20 (52) - ATL - Andrew Datko, LT, Florida State - The uncertainty over his shoulder pushes him past the top of the 2nd round. The pros have better doctors. Good feet. Baker is coming up on free agency and has never performed at a 1st round level.

21 (53) - NE from OAK - Ben Jones, C, Georgia - A lot of teams will be looking at him. Koppen is likely done, and this completes the makeover of the old OL, only Mankins is left.

22 (54) - CIN - Cyrus Gray, RB, Texas A&M - He played hurt in the beginning of the year, and now is out. Neither career threatening. I remember 2010 when we were talking about a future 1st rounder. Considering Michael was healthy, don't know why A&M played him through the hamstring injury.

23 (55) - CHI - Brandon Washington, G, Miami - Better off moving back to guard. Can't really explain what the Bears are doing, and why Garza got a multi-year extension at his age and ability level, so don't be surprised if they draft zero OL. But I'm giving them one.

24 (56) - DAL - TJ McDonald, FS, USC - More secondary help for Dallas, a large athlete that needs to learn discipline, but Jones likes flashy.

25 (57) - DET - Ryan Broyles, WR, Oklahoma - Drops because of the injury, so a BPA here, but Burleson might become too expensive by the end of his contract.

26 (58) - NE - Jeff Fuller, WR, Texas A&M - Another big dropper, but he won't be expected to carry the load here so he would have time to develop. NE should use all of its picks this year to make a push while Brady and Wilfork are still dominating, plus, acquiring lots of picks has filled many holes, but had some misses, there are only a few holes left that need good young talent.

27 (59) - NO - Lavonte David, OLB, Nebraska - The speed to use in the dome, and a great job playing the run the last few weeks.

28 (60) - HOU - Kendall Wright, WR, Baylor - How scared were the fans when Johnson was injured? They definitely need more talent and depth at WR, and Wright is a good value here.

29 (61) - BAL - Robert Lester, S, Alabama - He's not going to be the next Ed Reed, but he understands his coverage responsibilites. Needs to come out now, he could look worse next year with two new CBs in front of him.

30 (62) - SF - Billy Winn, DE, Boise State - I know your DEs are playing well. But Winn is an incredible athlete and the best player available here, Smith will last longer if you give him some occasional rest.

31 (63) - PIT - Josh Chapman, NT, Alabama - The last step in Smith-Hampton-Keisel becoming Hood-Chapman-Heyward.

32 (64) - GB - Devon Still, DE, Penn State - Not a favorite player of mine but GB likes to rotate the D-line and they have had some turnover at DE.

THIRD ROUND:

1 (65) - IND - AJ Jenkins, WR, Illinois - Indy loves those 6-0 fast guys. Wayne should resign but Gonzalez is headed for semi-pro and Garcon could draw interest from other teams.

2 (66) - MIN - Alameda Ta'amu, DT, Washington - Big does not equal nose tackle. Needs a lot of technique work, hopefully Pat will stick around and help out. Strong upper body, quick for his size, but trouble anchoring. At this point, Minnesota should be looking for free agent WR help.

3 (67) - STL - Kawann Short, DT, Purdue - Need to get some pass rush up the middle, and he is the BPA here.

4 (68) - MIA - Greg Childs, WR, Arkansas - Size and speed if he can overcome his injuries, needs to shut down after the bowl game Might go Toon here or Cordy Glenn if he fails his medicals.

5 (69) - JAC - Nick Toon, WR, Wisconsin - Reliable hands and route running, a little less flashy because Wisconsin spreads the ball around.

6 (70) - CHI from CAR - Kendall Reyes, DT, Connecticut - A player I really like, good pursuit speed, and the pass rush a key aspect of the Lovie Smith defense.

7 (71) - PHI - Montee Ball, RB, Wisconsin - 30+ touchdowns, probably because he never tried to pitch the ball backwards from the goal line.

8 (72) - CLE - Cordy Glenn, RG, Georgia - McCoy is taking a beating back there, and it's not because of Joe Thomas. Glenn is a great athlete for a big man, good feet.

9 (73) - KC - Zebrie Sanders, RT, Florida State - Much better athlete than anyone else the Chiefs have tried at right tackle.

10 (74) - SEA - Chris Polk, RB, Washington - Forsett had a good rookies year but has been slowly falling out of favor..

11 (75) - SD - Ronnell Lewis, OLB, Oklahoma - English is officially a bust and both current starters at OLB are free agents in 2013..

12 (76) - TB - Isaiah Pead, RB, Cincinnati - The exact opposite of Blount, real exciting player.

13 (77) - WAS - Joe Adams, WR, Arkansas - Last year they drafted taller outside WRs, this year they get a guy for the slot. Don't see any OL here for Shanahan's offense.

14 (78) - ARI - Chase Thomas, OLB, Stanford - Porter is done, and Thomas and Acho makes them younger and better. Also considered guards here.

15 (79) - BUF - Keith Tandy, CB, West Virginia - I think he has the potential to be a starter, good speed and coverage ability, many disappointments in Buffalo at CB. Can cover the slot.

16 (80) - DEN - Kirk Cousins, QB, Michigan State - No one is sure about Tebow, Cousins has a big arm and was impressive on a run-first team.

17 (81) - NYG - Keenan Robinson, LB, Texas - Giants stop squeezing players into the SAM role. A big, athletic, hard-hitting linebacker who will start when Kiwanuka moves back to DE.

18 (82) - TEN - Blake DeChristopher, G, Virginia Tech - Another team with a coaching change looking for bigger OL. Not quick enough for RT but he pulls very well.

19 (83) - NYJ - Shea McClellin, OLB, Boise State - Versatile athlete that can rush the passer but also handle the coverage responsibilites that the Jets put on their OLBs, takes the place of Thomas.

20 (84) - ATL - Coby Fleener, TE, Stanford - The new TE is overdone to Atlanta. But they need more pass catchers and Fleener is a good value here.

21 (85) - CIN - DeVier Posey, WR, Ohio State - Has looked good since returning to play, even though Miller is not throwing the ball much, and the cops are not monitoring his house for drug activity.

22 (86) - CHI - Cliff Harris, CB, Oregon - With good mass transit in Chicago Harris will not need to drive, Bears are a veteran team that can take in a young wildcard.

23 (87) - DAL - Kheeston Randall, DE, Texas - A lot of enphasis on defense but that is how the board is falling, and you have to do better than Kenyon Coleman, a career "because there is nobody better" player.

24 (88) - OAK - Lost due to drafting Terrelle Pryor in the 2011 supplemental draft.

25 (89) - DET - Levy Adcock, RG, Oklahoma State - I'm not sold on him as a tackle, but his tackle skills make him a good guard for a passing team.

26 (90) - NO - Stephen Hill, WR, Georgia Tech - They are bound to lose a WR in free agency just like the Colts, and they can afford to wait while Hill learns a real passing offense.

27 (91) - HOU - Brandon Taylor, FS, LSU - With everyone watching their corners, people are missing their great safety play. Texans can ditch Manning's ridiculous contract to pay their OL.

28 (92) - NE - Neiko Thorpe, FS, Auburn - Still learning the position but a guy I see around the ball a lot, may be a slight reach here but it is hard to find a good free safety.

29 (93) - BAL - Brandon Mosley, LT, Auburn - Another player lost in the shadow of Cam. I was scouting Branch on Clemson early in the year, noticed Mosley instead.

30 (94) - SF - Eric Page, WR, Toledo - Great hands and catching ability, replacing Ginn in the slot.

31 (95) - PIT - Matt Reynolds, LT, BYU - I have a higher rating on him than most other people do. And the Steelers favor larger linemen like Starks.

32 (96) - GB - Brandon Weeden, QB, Oklahoma State - Need a good backup for this offense, maturity a plus in this instance. A lot of talk about other teams looking at Flynn

FOURTH ROUND:

1 (97) - IND - Leonard Johnson, CB, Iowa State - Speedy CB that has done well against top competition.

2 (98) - STL - Doug Martin, RB, Boise State - A do-it-all back with good speed and receiving ability.

3 (99) - MIN - Jordan White, WR, Western Michigan - Later than I wanted to address WR but the board did not cooperate, since there are a lot of holes to fill.

4 (100) - JAC - Juron Criner, WR, Arizona - Very good hands, just not very quick.

5 (101) - CAR - Brandon Boykin, CB, Georgia - Good athlete that still needs work on coverage skills, but plays physical, and can handle returns.

6 (102) - MIA - Mike Ryan, RT, Connecticut - Much more athletic than their other recent RTs.

7 (103) - CLE - Travis Lewis, LB, Oklahoma - A good value here to play WILL, pushed back by too many 3- 4 teams.

8 (104) - KC - Dontari Poe, NT, Memphis - Needed even with Powe drafted last year, Gregg is ancient.

9 (105) - SEA - Frank Alexander, DE, Oklahoma - Taking value off the board, and another outside rusher to pair with or back up Clemons.

10 (106) - SD - Ryan Miller, RT, Colorado - Tall and athletic, will upgrade the pass protection.

11 (107) - PHI from TB - Emmanuel Acho, LB, Texas - Athletic LB with size, could be used as a size upgrade over Rolle or a speed upgrade over Chaney.

12 (108) - WAS - William Vlachos, C, Alabama - Small but powerful center that opens big holes for the running game.

13 (109) - ARI - Marquis Maze, WR, Alabama - They can use a slot WR, speed and elusiveness, can handle returns if Peterson becomes too valuable to risk.

14 (110) - PHI - Nate Potter, T, Boise State - I have him lower than most, don't like him a LT. He's a better backup than Dunlap, though, and can allow Herremans to move back to guard if necessary.

15 (111) - BUF - Bruce Irvin, OLB, West Virginia - A role player only, but good value here.

16 (112) - NYG - BJ Cunningham, WR, Michigan State - He catches the football when it hits his hands and makes plays.

17 (113) - TEN - TY Hilton, WR, Florida International - A team full of outside WRs can use a good slot guy.

18 (114) - NYJ - D'Anton Lynn, FS, Penn State - They draft a coach's son to play coverage safety.

19 (115) - DEN - Lucas Nix, G/RT, Pittsburgh - Similar to ex-teammate Pinkston is that he's a guard-tackle tweener that can play multiple positions, maybe Franklin moves inside.

20 (116) - CLE from ATL - Audie Cole, LB, North Carolina State - Will move back to SAM for a 4-3 team.

21 (117) - CHI - Kellen Moore, QB, Boise State - On an offense built around the QB, you need a great backup.

22 (118) - DAL - Julian Miller, OLB, West Virginia - Looking for someone to push Spencer.

23 (119) - WAS from OAK - Tank Carder, ILB, TCU - I can't believe he fell this far. How can you pass on a player named Tank?

24 (120) - CIN - Trumaine Johnson, CB/FS, Montana - He drops a little with the character concerns, but the cop pulled a taser out to break up a noisy party, I can hardly blame him.

25 (121) - DET - Andre Branch, DE, Clemson - After dropping this far the Lions grab the top player still on the board. I don't think he's quick enough to go higher, but he plays the run well. Future LDE if Avril moves over?

26 (122) - HOU - Moe Petrus, C/G - The strength of the Texans is the interior OL play. Petrus insures against injury or free agent losses.

27 (123) - NE - Kenny Tate, S, Maryland - Belichick will find a way to make use of him.

28 (124) - NO - Cam Johnson, DE, Virginia - It's hard to ignore BPA pass rushers in the late rounds, Romeus is still an unknown.

29 (125) - BUF from BAL - Bernard Pierce, RB, Temple - Jackson's injury showed the need for someone else to be physical and absorb some carries.

30 (126) - SF - Trenton Robinson, FS, Michigan State - Need a long-term solution at the position.

31 (127) - PIT - Aaron Henry, S, Wisconsin - Taking a shot at upgrading Clark.

32 (128) - GB - Jerry Franklin, ILB, Arkansas - Restoring some depth to the position, a guy that caught my eye when I was not scouting him.

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Big Blue View An "interview" with Kevin Gilbride



This was beamed directly to my head last night, so no one else may have heard it.  But this is my account of a reporter (R) questioning Gilbride (KG) after the game.

I am not advocating a complete overhaul here.  But I continually see easily fixed minor issues that repeat week after week.  Do we not watch our own game tapes?  Here is a question that I would love to ask:

If the curtains in your house are on fire, do you:  1) Put them out with a fire extinguisher, or 2) Do nothing because the curtains are not on fire in the world that you expected.

 

R:  There has been a lot of complaining about the number of draw plays run recently.  Can you explain what you are trying to do there?

KG:  Well, we are trying to counter the defense's blitzes and pass rush by getting them to start upfield, and then running the ball through the "A" gap.

R:  But don't most teams blitz through the "A" gap nowadays?  Is that not why so few other teams run draw plays now?

KG:  Gee, I have not really thought about that.  Maybe we'll run some more screens instead.

R:  The screen pass is supposed to be a high-percentage throw. Why then do you suppose that you only complete 50% of them?

KG:  Well, the other teams have done good jobs reading the play.

R:  Do you think it has something to do with the fact that so many of your screens go up the middle as well?  Where the defenders are already in the way because of A-gap blitzes or because the DT was not able to get penetration even though the offensive line is trying to let them through?  Is it a good idea to throw the ball into a pile of bodies?

KG:  Gee, I have not thought about that either.  But our one screen last game was not up the middle.

R:  Yes, the one to Ballard that fell incomplete.  If I recall on that play, Ballard stayed at his spot on the left side of the line of scrimmage, turned around, and Eli missed him with the throw because he was rushed.  The linebackers were right on that play.  Do you think that might have been because the Eagles were in zone coverage, and Ballard was the only eligible receiver on that side, so the SAM had nothing else to do but watch him?  Or the fact that since Ballard was on the line of scrimmage, the offensive line could not get in front of him to block because it was a pass play?

KG:  Hmm, maybe that play needs tweaking.

R:  Maybe you should throw more traditional screens to the flat.  Where the RB sneaks out toward the sideline, behind the line of scrimmage, and two offensive linemen get out in front.  The way every other team from high school to the pros does it.  Do you realize that absent two excellent individual efforts from defenders, that play has gained positive yardage every [every = four] time that you have tried it?  Including against the Eagles?

KG:  Well, it's too late to do anything about that now.  Our offensive game plan is already set for the season.

R:  I was wondering if you noticed during the game that the Eagles receivers are always running when the ball is thrown to them, either upfield or toward the sideline, while the Giants receivers are frequently standing still or coming back to the QB?  Can you explain that?

KG:  Well, we don't want Eli taking chances.  And it is easier to throw to receivers standing still than ones moving.  Last year, we ran more of those slants that you guys are always talking about.  But our receivers kept tipping balls in the air for interceptions.  So we got rid of the slants.

R:  So your solution to your receivers having poor hands is to expect less of them?  How about playing different receivers?  Or working on Eli throwing the ball lower?

KG:  Once things are set they are set.  Once you have your playing group, and once a QB is comfortable with his mechanics, it's better just to leave things the way they are.  Everyone is comfortable.

R:  So your team has played some teams that have notoriously poor safety play this year.  How does that affect your game planning?

KG:  As I said earlier, the game plans are already set.  If there is a safety back in coverage, we do not throw it anywhere near there.  Keep the ball to the sidelines.  Trying to avoid those interceptions.  Look what happened this week.  The linebacker picked off Eli's throw.

R:  But that was a poor throw.  Cruz was wide open, as he was in front of the safeties over the middle several times in that game.

KG:  But Eli could make a poor throw again.  It's better to play it safe.

R:  How do you explain Eli's success in the 4th quarter, when you are more pressed to put points on the board, than the first three quarters?  Eli seems to produce better when given more freedom to throw the ball and is not forced to play ball control.

KG:  Well, I think luck has a lot to do with it.  He's still the same person throwing to the same guys.  It's not like the play calls are that much different.  I'm still in charge.

R:  What happened to that great bootleg that Eli ran in for a touchdown in the first game of the season?

KG:  We really do not like to use trick plays.  That was an once-in-a-lifetime call.

R:  So you consider a bootleg a trick play?

KG:  Yes, it's no different than a reverse [zero in 2011], or a flea flicker [zero in 2011], or a fake field goal [no statistic needed].

R:  So the fact that Jernigan had a 172.1 passer rating and two TDs in college...

KG:  Don't go there.  Never gonna happen.

R:  Not even to run with the ball?

KG:  Nope.  Too dangerous.

R:  Have you tried working Jernigan into the offense in any other way in practice?

KG:  What do you mean?  Jernigan runs routes in practice just like everyone else.  Just like Nicks.  Just like Manningham.  Just like Cruz.

R:  But shouldn't players with different skill sets have different plays to utilize their skills?

KG:  Why?  We treat every player the same.  They get the same chances.  They can fit into our system, or they can move on.

R:  Back to your system.  Coughlin is quoted last night as saying that the offensive line got outplayed by the Eagles "front eight".  As teams are constantly putting a safety in the box, have you thought about trying to game plan around it?

KG:  You are not listening.  Our game plan is set.  We are a running team.  We run the ball up the middle.  I don't care what the defense does.  We are going to play our game.  Our guys are going to beat their guys.  Just wait and see.

R:  I'm waiting......

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Big Blue View My problem with the Giants defensive alignment

 

I may lack some of the technical jargon for this discussion, but I have a pretty good handle on the physics of movement, and this is something that has been bothering me since the start of the season.

 

Some people do not like the Cover 2 zone defense we have been playing.  Some people have been criticizing the frequency with which we blitz.  Or the logic behind our occasional 3-man rushes.  My thoughts on these topics vary.  I may not like these elements, but I can live with them.  But I have a very simple, yet influential problem with our base defense.  I do not like the way we line up.

 

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via www.football-plays.com

 

 

From www.football-plays.com/formations/11/4-3-defense-formation.php

This is our base defensive formation.  I call this 4-3 "stacked", where all three linebackers are standing in a row in the middle of the formation.  It is a very common defense.  I DO NOT LIKE IT IN GENERAL.  I HATE IT FOR THE GIANTS.

In my opinion, this does not work with either modern zone and second-level blocking, or with the Giants personnel.  In modern run-blocking schemes, offensive linemen are assigned to block linebackers, either as a primary duty, or more likely after releasing off a defensive lineman.  This defensive alignment allows for a single offensive lineman to block two linebackers.  How?  If the line of scrimmage is not pushed back, the middle linebacker just needs to be held up or pushed to one side on inside runs to wall off one of the outside linebackers.  This linebacker is standing rather flatfooted off the snap, waiting because the play is coming near him.  More than likely he is just shuffling his feet.  He's suddenly surrounded by big, round bodies that weigh more than him.  The running back is hitting the hole with some speed.  Can the outside linebacker tiptoe through a gap without getting pushed around?  Can he suddenly accelerate to force himself through a gap, get push on the pile, or catch the running back as he passes the middle linebacker?  All difficult tasks.  There are too many bodies in the way.

The flatfooted issue also affect outside runs.  Before the running back gets the handoff, the linebackers are trying to read the play.  But it could go inside, it could go outside.  So they are shuffling their feet again.  The running back is going to get the ball and is going to be able to instantly accelerate or cut and accelerate.  He is probably faster than the linebackers.  He is almost definitely quicker in change of direction than the linebackers.  He knows where the play is designed to go.  If it is going out wide, it is a quick foot plant while already moving forward, and go.  The linebacker is in the midst of his foot shuffle.  He must now plant and accelerate.  He was only lined up three feet outside of the QB at the snap.  Is the linebacker going to beat the running back to the sideline?  No.  I take you to Lynch's big outside run to the right last week.  Jacquian Williams was the linebacker on that side.  At the snap, he took two light steps forward.  Those two steps took him completely out of the play.  By the time he turned his hips to run for the sideline, the play was by him.  Many of you did not notice this because he was nowhere near the action.  And he is our fastest linebacker. 

This is the 4-3 formation I would prefer:

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via upload.wikimedia.org

 

From Wikipedia, search topic: formation (American football)

I will call this the 4-3 "split".  The linebackers start out wide and closer to the line of scrimmage.  The WILL is going to have empty space in front of him, the SAM will likely have a tight end.  At the snap, if they make a run read they are free to try and come upfield to prevent the outside run.  They are in a position where they can beat the running back to the outside spot.  Force the run inside to your tacklers.  If the run goes the other direction, they can pursue from the backside to try and eliminate slower-developing cutbacks.  On runs up the middle, they will be running into the play from the side.  Harder to account for with blocking assignments.  They are coming with speed and force, giving them an advantage if they have to go through someone or squeeze through a gap.  The speed is also an advantage with making the tackle.

If you watch the successful runs of McCoy, Wells, and Lynch against us, you will see that the majority of big runs were to the outside, and rarely were linebackers in the play.  The only time Arrington gained yardage against us was on the sideline.  Everyone recalls Kiwi running by Wells on the goal line; what made it memorable was that it was the only time someone other than Webster was on the edge.  McCoy was making cuts out in the flat.  But he had room to make these cuts, and there was space for him to run through.  It was not our linebackers out there forcing the cuts, it was Rolle and the other defensive backs.

Think of what we are asking Boley, Kiwanuka, and Greg Jones to do.  None of these guys are sprinters.  They are probably slower than the average NFL player at their position.  Yet we are asking them to cover large sections of the field.  We are asking inexperienced players to make quick reads to get into the right position.  Meanwhile, the strength of this team is supposed to be the defensive line.  We have plus run stoppers at defensive end in JPP and Tuck, and we have big run-stuffers at defensive tackle.  We should be directing the running backs into them, not away from them.  We should be playing to our strengths.  But our formation at the snap does not allow us to accomplish this goal.

I could also get into the proven failure of one defender up, two defenders back when the offense puts three receivers on one side, but that is for a different day.

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Mocking The Draft ct17's Big Board

It is too early in the season to reasonably guess at draft order, so I decided to just rank the college players based upon where I thought there talent should land them.  I have groups of QBs and CBs in the Top 20 range and a group of MLB/ILBs in the Top 32 range; probably some of these would fall lower because teams will consider position need when drafting.

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Big Blue View Where o where will my Barry be?

 

I started thinking about handicapping Cofield's chances of landing with another team a few weeks before the draft, then held off figuring the pictures of other teams would be clearer.  Little did I think we would make a move that would make it almost certain that Cofield will be gone.  Between Fewell not being a DT rotation guy, to drafting Joseph and Austin, to paying Canty $7 million a year, to having numerous other free agents to pay, I am barely even going to consider him staying with the Giants.  Is it possible?  Sure.  The DT market is not strong, with college teams playing 4-3 and half of pro teams playing a 3-4, you need less DTs.  So perhaps we can resign him at a reasonable price (the original planned focus of my story), and we won't just hand the job over to our draft picks. 

I think the most likely scenario under which we keep him is that there are simply no other teams that are interested in spending the money.  Cofield is most likely considered as a 1-tech DT in a 4-3 alignment and a LDE in a 3-4 alignment.  Those are not big money positions, except for the occasional star such as Pat Williams on the Vikings or Ty Warren on the Patriots.  His height/weight is not ideal for a NT, but he has the skills for the position.  He might have had a career-high four sacks last year, but he is not what teams are looking for when money is spent on a 3-tech DT.

Another issue is whether he leaves this year or next, and how he leaves.  We have the second-round tender on him for now.  But the rules could change with the new contract, and I'd bet against 5 year restricted free agents remaining (owners can give the players collectively less money if the players have individual chances of increasing their salaries earlier).  In either case the short free agent time period will make it difficult to make trades or sign new players.  I think we would take the second round pick rather than match an offer higher than our tender.  If teams do not want to give up the second rounder, maybe there is a sign-and-trade agreement where he accepts the tender, we trade for a lesser pick, and he signs a contract extension with the new team.  I don't think we would take less than a 3rd or a 4th, because if we lose him as an unrestricted free agent we get a compensatory pick, and value-wise it makes sense to hope for the 4th rather than take a lower safe pick.  At 6th round comp pick money we may sign him regardless of our other DTs - it's Bernard-level money.

So below are the teams I see in the Cofield market.  If these seem like reaches, it shows the limited demand for his services.

 

Most Interested:

Denver Broncos (2011 & 2012) - Everyone knows they need DTs, probably two of them.  Their run defense last year was awful, and Von Miller will be of little help there.  Although Fox was long gone from the Giants before Cofield was drafted, he knows people within the organization, and is likely to feel comfortable signing a player like Cofield.  Cofield will likely hear good recommendations on Fox.  This is the best-case scenario for everyone.

Dallas Cowboys (I apologize, please choose carefully the object on which you will release your rage from reading this) (2011) - Spears is an unrestricted free agent at LDE and has never lived up to his 1st round draft status.  Their top backup Bowen is also a free agent, along with another DE, Hatcher (who was drafted a round before Cofield, HAH!).  Bowen also has five years in like Cofield.  Barry would be a huge upgrade for them, Jerry has deep pockets, and it would be stealing from a division rival.

 

Medium Interest:

St. Louis Rams (2011 & 2012) - Spagnuolo knows Cofield and has not been shy about bringing in his former players from the Giants (but not the Eagles, interesting?).  Many people talk about the bigger need being a future 3-tech to replace Robbins, but Robbins last year like Abraham in Atlanta did not look like he needs replacing soon.  They have a couple young DTs at the 1-tech slot they are developing, but Spags could grab Cofield if he thinks the talent upgrade is worth it.

Houston Texans (2011 & 2012) - They are switching to the 3-4 and in my opinion have nobody to play NT or LDE.  They did not draft a NT, and the guy they are talking about, Earl Mitchell, entered the NFL as a 285-lb. DT.  I also think Williams and Watt are both RDEs, and in the last day there has been talk about giving Williams snaps at OLB, so perhaps an extra body that could play LDE would be useful as well.  If the first season in the 3-4 has its problem on the DL, Cofield could be an option in 2012 if not now.  Phillips has some familiarity with him from coaching Dallas.

Minnesota Vikings (2012) - Pat Williams is planning to return for another year, even though he is likely to be suspended for four games.  I do not see interest this year, because it is unlikely they have the money to pay two guys for one position and Cofield does not need to be developed or taught.  But they know the value of a good 1-tech and they are trying to rebuild their roster without starting from scratch, so Cofield would be a fit next year if Williams retires.

New Orleans Saints (2012) - The team that wanted Cofield last year.  This year, they grabbed Shaun Rogers, and like Minnesota they do not have the means to pay two guys for one spot.  But if Rogers becomes a 1-year rental Cofield could be in play next year.

 

Low Interest:

San Francisco 49'ers (2011) - Franklin is a free agent at NT, but they want him back and the only major interest would likely be from Houston.  He and Sopoanga at LDE have some age on them, and "Soap" is a two-down player only.  But Cofield is hardly younger or a better rusher, and Harbaugh will be given time to build through the draft.

Seattle Seahawks (2011) - Their best DT, Mebane, is a free agent that they also want back.  The assortment of other DTs is nothing special, and have some age, but they do not indicate a need and are also building through youth.  Seattle runs many unusual fronts (DTs at LDE, for example) and seems to like the players they have.

Pittsburgh Steelers (2012) - They keep talking about Hampton retiring in the future at NT.  They drafted Hood and Heyward to replace their older DEs, which is probably what they will do with Hampton, but if their veterans suddenly retire they may want a veteran presence on the team.  Yeah, this is weak.

Tennessee Titans (2012) - This offseason they expressed a desire to get bigger on the DL, their roster is on the small side.  Then they drafted 6-1 300 lb. Jurrell Casey and Karl Klug, the smallest DT on record.  Maybe he plays LDE.  Maybe Jason Jones plays LDE.  It's hard to say because counting their free agents, they have a zillion DL on the team.  Many have had decent stats but are no-name guys.  They have injury concerns with some of them, think they will lose some of them to other teams, and question whether young guys like Marks will ever develop.  So next year, if they are not happy with their DT play, Cofield becomes an option.

Indianapolis Colts (2012) - They have been told for years they need better run defenders at DT.  And like this year with Nevis, they pick 3-tech pass rush DTs.  The Colts are not a team that signs free agents from other teams.  They build through the draft.  But if run defense is still a problem, maybe they sign a known quantity if they get a good price.

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Mocking The Draft 7 round mock

 BBI wins the readability award for his 7-rounder (I might steal that format next time).  I went for the detailed information route.  Thought I'd provide reasoning for most of my picks, share the other players I was thinking about.  Of course, by the time I got around to writing the explanations, I forgot most of the alternate options.  So you are left with my opinion of the player or team need.  I worked off my own big board.  Lost my kicker/punter need sheet, so left them out.  Oh well, only affects a few picks anyway.

Thought a little about free agents.  With free agency unknown, more teams draft for need, most free agents resign with their old teams.  McNabb reworks his contract, gets traded to Minnesota for a 2012 4th or 5th rounder.  Gets one last year to prove he still has talent.  Mentors the QB they draft below.  If Kolb gets traded, it is for one of the 2nd round drafted QBs below.  New team gets more known quantity, Eagles get backup to develop if Vick fails, safe under contract for a few years.  Palmer, if let go, sees little interest.  Bengals grab Mankins for left guard using money from cutting/not resigning underperforming veterans.  Asomugha goes somewhere surprising that does not affect draft.

 

1ST ROUND:

1 - CAROLINA - A.J. Green, WR, Georgia - The best player in the draft.  I've never seen a WR his size run underneath routes so well.   A catch-everything guy.

 

2 - DENVER - Marcel Dareus, DT, Alabama - Size & athleticism, good college experience.  Fills huge need.  No flaws.

 

3 - BUFFALO - Robert Quinn, SOLB, North Carolina - Can play the run as well as rush the passer.  Will line up opposite Merriman in the 3-4, play RDE in the 4-3.  I'm thinking the 3-4 does not last long.

 

4 - CINCINNATI - Cameron Jordan, DT, California - Yes, this high.  A playmaker in the middle.  Will clog the run and rush the passer.  Plays every down hard.

 

5 - ARIZONA - Patrick Peterson, CB, LSU - Incredible athleticism, great coverage ability, good size.

 

6 - CLEVELAND - Julio Jones, WR, Alabama - Talent and need match, I have Jones rated higher than any DL here.

 

7 - SAN FRANCISCO - Von Miller, WOLB, Texas A&M - The speed rusher they lack, here he can be the primary rusher all of the time.

 

8 - TENNESSEE - Blaine Gabbert, QB, Missouri - Someone has to throw the ball, Gabbert has the arm and mobility, consensus safest QB.

 

9 - DALLAS - Nick Fairley, RDE, Alabama - The big name falls, Jerry jumps.  Too early for a RT.

 

10 - WASHINGTON - Cam Newton, QB, Auburn - Big arm, mobile, reminds me of so many Denver QBs. Shanahan and Snyder look to boost their egos by taking the project.

 

11 - HOUSTON - Prince Amukamara, CB/FS, Nebraska - Not sure which he will play, but he is the best talent left.  Too high for Taylor, but some OLBs could go here as well.

 

12 - MINNESOTA - Ryan Mallett, QB, Arkansas - Mallett goes to a veteran team where there are existing leaders to take some of the pressure off of him.  Keep him under control by rooming him with the Stanford grad.  Helps to resign Rice.

 

13 - DETROIT - DaQuan Bowers, LDE, Clemson - Bowers falls with injury/one-year-wonder concerns, but he will join the DE rotation and push Avril to the future starter at RDE where he is best.

 

14 - ST. LOUIS - Aldon Smith, RDE, Missouri - Incredible athleticism, pushes Long over to LDE.  WR a reach here.

 

15 - MIAMI - Mark Ingram, RB, Alabama - They had their greatest success in recent years when they could run the ball.

 

16 - JACKSONVILLE - Ryan Kerrigan, RDE, Purdue - Like Ingram this is way overdone, may not be flashy but is consistent.

 

17 - NEW ENGLAND - Anthony Castonzo, LT, Boston College - The most-ready LT in the draft, starts right away, Light leaves.

 

18 - SAN DIEGO - Justin Houston, OLB, Georgia - I could also see a DE here, but it's hard to pass up a pass rusher used to the OLB position.

 

19 - NEW YORK GIANTS - Michael Pouncey, C, Florida - Big, agile pulling lineman fits Giants run game, could also wind up at LG.  Tyron Smith also gets a look.

 

20 - TAMPA BAY - J. J. Watt, LDE, Wisconsin - They need help at LDE and RDE, pass rush and run defense, this pick covers both.  They would probably prefer a RDE but none worth this pick.

 

21 - KANSAS CITY - Phil Taylor, NT, Baylor - Chiefs have shown willingness to spend high picks on Dline.  Taylor is more of an athlete than most at NT.

 

22 - INDIANAPOLIS - Tyron Smith, LT, USC - Tremendous athlete, and if not ready for LT can play RT for a year, but I doubt it.

 

23 - PHILADELPHIA - Gabe Carimi, RT, Wisconsin - Justice got benched in the playoffs, has been inconsistent, Philly regretting his extension.  Carimi has the size Reid likes, good mobility for a RT.

 

24 - NEW ORLEANS - Adrian Clayborn, LDE, Iowa - With a need at both ends and no RDE valued here, NO gets someone to pressure the QB.  Also considered LeShoure here.

 

25 - SEATTLE - Corey Liuget, DT, Illinois - Quick and strong, 3-down DT that can play either DT spot.

 

26 - BALTIMORE - Akeem Ayers, SOLB, UCLA - I cannot see Kindle ever getting medical clearance to play again.  I prefer Ayers in a 3-4, and think his skills are similar to Kindle's.  Complements Suggs and Johnson.

 

27 - ATLANTA - Derek Sherrod, LT, Mississippi St. - He can run block, which is important on this team, needs some work pass blocking.  May not start right away, but Baker is considered just average and is approaching free agency.

 

28 - NEW ENGLAND - Muhammad Wilkerson, RDE, Temple - Patriots get back their Seymour.

 

29 - CHICAGO - Marvin Austin, DT, North Carolina - A beast to replace Tommie Harris, his suspension reason not worth a draft drop.  Solder gets a look here.

 

30 - NEW YORK JETS - Cameron Heyward, RDE/LDE, Ohio St. - Strong player with pursuit ability, will be groomed to replace Ellis and will cover DeVito on passing downs now if Ellis resigns.

 

31 - PITTSBURGH - Brandon Harris, CB , Miami -  Taylor is slowing down and none of the CBs are considered elite.  Top DL and OLBs gone and too early for Cannon.

 

32 - GREEN BAY - Nate Solder, LT, Colorado - May not be ready to start right away, but the Super Bowl champs can afford this pick.  Tauscher is done and Clifton not far behind.

  

SECOND ROUND:

 

 

1 (33) – NE – Danny Watkins, RG, Baylor – Neal is gone and the OL is getting younger, so they can afford a more mature and likely disciplined player.

 

2 (34) – BUF – Kyle Rudolph, TE, Notre Dame –BPA at the top of 2nd has become popular, huge upgrade at position, can block and catch, supports the weak RT position.

 

3 (35) – CIN – Jake Locker, QB, Washington – Falls because of the accuracy issues, Cincy takes the chance, may still keep Palmer no matter what he says.

 

4 (36) – DEN – Stephen Paea, DT, Oregon State – Yep, two DTs.  Sets the new front four, eliminates the run defense problem.  Probably plays 1 tech, but Dareus and him can play both. 

 

5 (37) – CLE – Allen Bailey, LDE, Miami – Superb athlete at his best fit position, leaves Roth and Benard to battle it out for RDE.

 

6 (38) – ARI – Colin Kaepernick, QB, Nevada – Another big QB for Whisenhunt, will have to compete with Skelton, but a better player than any other needs here.  Almost thought Wilson as a SOLB or SILB.

 

7 (39) – TEN – Martez Wilson, LB, Illinois – Can play any of the LB positions, the talent has declined from the McNair years.

 

8 (40) – DAL – Marcus Cannon, RG/RT, TCU – Fits the Cowboys mold, I like him better at RT but he can play either depending on other personnel moves.

 

9 (41) – WAS – Rodney Hudson, C/G, Florida State – A favorite of the pro analysts, could play several spots for the Redskins.

 

10 (42) – HOU – Titus Young, WR, Boise State – Walters may be OK but he allows a permanent double-team on Johnson, Young shakes things up and gives defenses two threats to cover.  They should have noticed by now how Indy always has multiple threats at WR.

 

11 (43) – MIN – Aaron Williams, FS/CB, Texas – This is not that Williams can't play corner, it's that Minny needs speed at the back end.  They are in a passing division now.

 

12 (44) – DET – Greg Jones, LB, Michigan State – Local product that can play middle or weak, quickness should play well on turf.

 

13 (45) – SF – Christian Ponder, QB, Florida State – Alex Smith may be kept around but they will not put all their eggs in one basket, Ponder was an afterthought early because of his injury history but his injuries are not all ongoing concerns, recent performance rises him up, but not a 1st rounder.

 

14 (46) – DEN – Bruce Carter, WLB, North Carolina – Fox has time as a rookie coach switching systems to wait for Carter to heal, gets 1st round talent.

 

15 (47) – STL – Jonathan Baldwin, WR, Pittsburgh – Drops down because he needs some coaching on running routes, but the Rams have Avery and Amendola to do that, they are looking for the big target.

 

16 (48) – OAK – Ras-I Dowling, CB, Virginia – Injury history is scary but Al is willing to take risks.

 

17 (49) – JAC – Rahim Moore, FS, UCLA – People get excited about 10 INTs, but numbers like that are as much luck as skill (see the tape).  I still find a lot to like about this guy.  And the need is huge.

 

18 (50) – SD – Christian Ballard, RDE, Iowa – Castillo has declined and the rest of the DL is solid but not spectacular, Ballard is a high motor guy perfect for a 3-4 DE.

 

19 (51) – TB – Quan Sturdivant, MLB, North Carolina – Ruud looks like a goner and in a class where few players are projected as pro MLBs they cannot afford to let Sturdivant slip past.

 

20 (52) – NYG – Mikel LeShoure, RB, Illinois – I did not want to go RB here but cannot ignore the value of this pick.

 

21 (53) – IND – Quinton Carter, SS, Oklahoma – An extremely overdone pick, but it fits because Indy values the SS and Carter is a good all-around player.

 

22 (54) – PHI – Curtis Brown, CB, Texas – The major needs left are CB and RG, and CB is the value pick here.

 

23 (55) – KC – Leonard Hankerson, WR, Miami – This had to be done.  Most high school option teams had #2 WRs with better numbers than Chambers.

 

24 (56) – NO – Ryan Williams, RB, Virginia Tech – The lack of a running game really hurt the Saints last year, Williams has natural ability.

 

25 (57) – SEA – Jimmy Smith, CB, Colorado – A lot of rumors that Seattle likes this guy, and he falls on character concerns, and the fact that I don’t think he has great coverage skills.

 

26 (58) – BAL – Torrey Smith, WR, Maryland – They go for the local guy with good character, who complements Boldin perfectly as the deep threat that can open up the underneath, hopefully Boldin or Mason can teach him to run routes.

 

27 (59) – ATL – Randall Cobb, WR, Kentucky – Another team with one dominant WR, lots of big guys, no small, quick guys.

 

28 (60) – NE – Sam Acho, OLB, Texas – Looking for a better pass rusher, still could be Cunningham, but Banta-Cain has maxed out his talent.

 

29 (61) – SD – Austin Pettis, WR, Boise State – Not a burner but great hands and good small-area quickness, with the size SD likes.

 

30 (62) – CHI – Benjamin Ijalana, LT, Villanova – They could skip LT once but not twice, Ijalana is popular lately but untested against top competition.

 

31 (63) – PIT – Orlando Franklin, RG, Miami – I like Franklin better at guard than tackle, and he has the size that the Steelers like for their OL.

 

32 (64) – GB – Dontay Moch, WOLB, Nevada – Now they have athletic freaks on both sides.

 

 

 

THIRD ROUND:

 

 

1 (65) – CAR – Drake Nevis, 3DT, LSU – Same skill set as Fairley, just smaller.

 

2 (66) – CIN – Deunta Williams, FS, North Carolina – 2nd rd talent fills a need.

 

3 (67) – DEN – Jordan Todman, RB, Connecticut – Fox is going to demand a stronger run game, Todman is tough for his size.

 

4 (68) – BUF – Mason Foster, SILB/LB, Washington – Another player that can fit 3-4 or 4-3, I think he slips because he is a SLB/WLB tweener.

 

5 (69) – ARI – Brooks Reed, SOLB, Arizona – A larger OLB to complement Porter & Schofield, the athleticism of Clay III.

 

6 (70) – CLE – Jurrell Casey, 3DT, USC – With so many DTs rated highly, some were going to fall.

 

7 (71) – DAL – Brandon Burton, CB, Utah – The highest rated secondary player left on my board, and a good value here.

 

8 (72) – NO – Jabaal Sheard, RDE, Pittsburgh – Another DE for the other side of the line because the need is there and the value fits.

 

9 (73) – HOU – Kenrick Ellis, NT, Hampton – It was just a matter of time until a NT was worth their pick.

 

10 (74) – NE – William Rackley, LG, Lehigh – Another OL?  They have the need.  I was tempted by Wiz here because center could be a future need, but I am just too high on Rackley.

 

11 (75) – DET – Davon House, CB, New Mexico St. – The NFC North is a pass-happy division, Lions brought in a lot of new blood but could still use another potential starter.

 

12 (76) – SF – Jerrel Jernigan, WR, Troy – May not be the need CB is, but a value pick here that can run the underneath routes.  Harbaugh is not running an offense with Ginn as the #3 WR.

 

13 (77) – TEN – Stefen Wisniewski, C/G, Penn State – The middle of the OL was bad last year, Mawae was missed more than they would like to admit.

 

14 (78) – STL – Shane Vereen, RB, California – Jackson keeps getting hurt and keeps getting older, needs someone to share the load, Vereen should be quick on turf.

 

15 (79) – MIA – Andy Dalton, QB, TCU – I don’t blame Henne, but Miami is not happy, and a 3rd is not too high to risk in case he becomes the backup.  Also have to be afraid the Jags take him next.

 

16 (80) – JAC – Nate Irving, LB, North Carolina St. – Not sure where he’ll play in a 4-3, not sure who loses their job first.  Some flexibility to play “worst man out” here.

 

17 (81) – OAK – John Moffitt, C/G, Wisconsin – Before the Raiders were about speed, they were about attitude.  Moffitt brings that back, as well as filling a major need.

 

18 (82) – SD – Marcus Gilchrist, CB/S, Clemson – Has the CB skills, they at least need a nickel, and preferably someone who can push to start, like Gilchrist.  Can also play FS if Weddle becomes too expensive to keep.

 

19 (83) – NYG – K. J. Wright, SLB, Mississippi St. – Big, athletic LB that can cover, fits their mold and greatest need, reduces reliance on third safety.

 

20 (84) – TB – Jacquizz Rodgers, RB, Oregon State – Some interesting photos will be taken of the TB backfield duo.  Love this guy, runs hard like Emmitt Smith.

 

21 (85) – PHI – James Carpenter, RG, Alabama – What Reid likes, a tackle converting to guard.

 

22 (86) – KC – Kristofer O’Dowd, C, USC – Wiegmann is threatening to quit before age 45.

 

23 (87) – IND – Sione Fua, 1DT, Stanford – Need to lose the “can't stop the run” label.

 

24 (88) – NO – Colin McCarthy, WLB, Miami – The OLB positions have needed upgrades for some time.  I like this kid, nonstop hustle.

 

25 (89) – SD – Marcus Gilbert, RT, Florida – A passing team needs a RT that can pass block.

 

26 (90) – BAL – Joseph Barksdale, T, LSU – They'll see who plays the left side better, my guess is Oher right now, but Gaither has been written off for a long time.

 

27 (91) – ATL – Lance Kendricks, TE, Wisconsin – No need to get too excited replacing Gonzalez, they find a player with good hands and better blocking skills here.

 

28 (92) – NE – Terrence Toliver, WR, LSU – NE has been scouting a lot of RBs, but in my first foray off the line I find them a big WR to replace Moss.  I like his potential.

 

29 (93) – CHI – Vincent Brown, WR, San Diego St. - The reliable route runner and “go-to guy” that Cutler needs, they have too many athletes and not enough WRs. 

 

30 (94) – NYJ – Chris Conte, FS, California – Their young CBs will be better with good safety play, I have Conte as a value pick here over stronger needs.

 

31 (95) – PIT – Jarvis Jenkins, DE, Clemson – I had a lot of trouble with this pick, defaulted to BPA, youth for the DL.

 

32 (96) – GB – Clint Boling, LG, Georgia – More investment in protecting their franchise player, can play RT if needed if Solder not ready and Clifton gone (Bulaga to LT).

 

33 (97) – CAR – Johnny Patrick, CB, Louisville – Filling the biggest needs with this and the next pick, coverage ability over athleticism in a division with possession WRs.

 

 

 

FOURTH ROUND:

 

 

 

1 (98) – CAR – DeMarcus Love, G, Carolina – Slow feet for a tackle but will be fine at guard, has the push for the run game.

 

2 (99) – SEA – Jason Pinkston, G/RT, Pittsburgh – Not a measurables guy but a skilled player that could wind up at several different positions.

 

3 (100) – BUF – Cortez Allen, CB, Citadel – The consensus skill corners are gone and the athletes with potential are on the board, this guy shows the most promise and is the most ready.

 

4 (101) – CIN – Lee Ziemba, RT, Auburn – The end of the Smith experiment, and Roland is just painful to watch, although another tall guy bending low to get Woodley might not be the best idea.  But Ziemba has LT skills if not the speed.

 

5 (102) – CLE – Kendall Hunter, RB, Oklahoma St. - Another little guy paired with a big guy, allows some offensive variety, and can handle pass blocking.

 

6 (103) – ARI – Luke Stocker, TE, Tennessee – The Cards have nothing at TE.  Stocker starts immediately and is a value pick here.

 

7 (104) – PHI – Jaiquawn Jarrett, SS, Temple – Picking the local boy since Mikell seems unlikely to return, hits like Dawkins.

 

8 (105) – HOU – DeAndre McDaniel, SS, Clemson – Going with the value pick here and filling an opening in the starting lineup.

 

9 (106) – MIN – Justin Boren, G, Ohio State – AP had trouble getting holes last year, need a big guy to push some of the big DTs in division.

 

10 (107) – DET – Roy Helu, RB, Nebraska – A bigger back to complement Best, who last year showed he needed some help.

 

11 (108) – SF – Rashad Carmichael, CB, Virginia Tech – The CB need finally filled.

 

12 (109) – TEN – Aldrick Robinson, WR, SMU – On a team filled with big WRs, a smaller guy to get open underneath.

 

13 (110) – DAL – Chris Culliver, FS, South Carolina – I like him better at safety than corner, and they need speed and cover skills deep.

 

14 (111) – MIA – Jake Kirkpatrick, C, TCU – More ammo for the running game and a player I rate higher than most.

 

15 (112) – STL – Robert Sands, S, West Virginia – Spags like those big safeties like Butler, Sands is an upgrade at SS more likely than the new FS, but the athleticism is intriguing.

 

16 (113) – OAK – Ross Homan, WLB, Ohio State – Listening to Raiders fans here who identified a need to upgrade the weakside LB, Homan had college production backed up by a good combine.

 

17 (114) – JAC – Pat Devlin, QB, Delaware – Needs to learn a pro system but a guy I like with good underlying skills.

 

18 (115) – SF – Lawrence Guy, LDE, Arizona State – Could have gone corner again but the DL is getting older and Guy has potential but needs development time.

 

19 (116) – TB – Chimdi Chekwa, CB, Ohio State – I was thinking about corner here before the Talib news broke because I’m not sold that Lewis stays at CB.

 

20 (117) – NYG – Curtis Marsh, CB, Utah State – Not sure if they go for a faster CB to help deep coverage or one that is a better in short coverage like Burney.

 

21 (118) – KC – Chris Carter, OLB, Fresno State – An undersized athlete that many people like, would provide a different look from Hali.

 

22 (119) – IND – Shareece Wright, CB, USC – Indy fans may be waiting for their second OL here but I’m following Polian history, there always seems to be new faces competing at CB.

 

23 (120) – PHI – Kendric Burney, CB, North Carolina – There is a need for multiple CBs, they like big OL but are not afraid of small CBs, here there is less size concern because they are looking for a nickel/dime guy,

 

24 (121) – JAC – Greg Little, WR, North Carolina – They get great value here at a position of need, slips a bit because of the lack of experience, but he provides the large target opposite Thomas.

 

25 (122) – BUF – James Brewer, RT, Indiana – Brewer looked very healthy at the combine and has great potential, Fitzpatrick needs a shot with better blocking.

 

26 (123) – BAL – Tyler Sash, SS, Iowa – This is a value pick that improves the position, also considered CB but it could be lose one/sign one in free agency.

 

27 (124) – ATL – Greg Romeus, DE, Pittsburgh – No one told Abraham he is getting old, Romeus has some time to heal as a potential future RDE and is large enough to get some snaps at LDE.  I’m still holding out hope for Sidbury.

 

28 (125) – NE – DeMarco Murray, RB, Oklahoma – NE is scouting RBs hard, they draft a guy used to operating out of a shotgun, can pick up some of Faulk’s roles, but needs to bulk up first.

 

29 (126) – NYJ – Jeremy Kerley, WR, TCU – They lack a true slot-type WR (although Holmes has similar skills), a quick outlet guy that can get open quickly and run with the ball, and they could lose starters to free agency.

 

30 (127) – CHI – Brandon Fusco, C/G, Slippery Rock – Climbs the board a little because of his potential, and he has the size to play guard.

 

31 (128) – PIT – Jerrell Powe, NT, Mississippi – Powe avoids rising simply because he plays NT, worth a shot here to see if he can be groomed to replace Hampton.

 

32 (129) – GB – Buster Skrine, CB, Tennessee-Chattanooga – Elite athlete who can learn from the best, in a situation where he is not needed to play right away.

 

33 (130) – TEN – Steve Schilling, G, Michigan – Still improving the OL and drafting what Munchak knows best.

 

34 (131) – GB – Niles Paul, WR, Nebraska – With Jones’ status in question and Driver aging this become a need, and good value at WR here.  Torn between Salas and Paul, went Paul for special teams play, with Hester, Logan, and Harvin in division.

 

 

 

FIFTH ROUND:

 

 

 

1 (132) – CAR – D. J. Williams, TE, Arkansas – Shockey only has so much left in him, Williams brings a whole new facet to the offense.

 

2 (133) – BUF – Greg Salas, WR, Hawaii – Good route runner and hands, Johnson and Nelson are developing but Evans had an off year, so Salas could become the future go-to guy. Culture shock in store for Salas.

 

3 (134) – CIN – Ugo Chinasa, RDE, Oklahoma St. - With Odom's injuries and Johnson unproven, the Bengals add another player to compete for the important RDE spot.

 

4 (135) – KC – Derek Newton, RT, Arkansas St. - A more athletic player than their existing options at RT.

 

5 (136) – ARI – Tim Barnes, C/G, Missouri – The OL has been a weakness, Barnes has the size to play guard or center, is the top OL available here.

 

6 (137) – CLE – Lawrence Wilson, WLB, Connecticut – When switching from 3-4 to 4-3, the weakside LB is often the one position you will not find on your roster, Fujita played it in NO but is better suited for strongside.

 

7 (138) – HOU – Cheta Ozougwu, OLB, Rice – I really like this guy's potential, quick, local product, needs work.  Probably not an immediate starter, LB positions are probably more fluid than discussed until they see who they have in camp.

 

8 (139) – MIN – Cecil Shorts, WR, Mount Union – Great value here, he will compete for Berrian's starting slot.

 

9 (140) – KC – Jeremy Beal, SILB/OLB, Oklahoma – Bad measurables but good college production, could be tried at several positions.

 

10 (141) – SF – Mark Legree, FS, Appalachian St. - Under-the-radar prospect should push aside Goldson.

 

11 (142) – TEN – Terrell McClain, DT, South Florida – Marks has disappointed and free agency is a concern with the current starters.

 

12 (143) – DAL – Jah Reid, RT, Central Florida – The big size they like, quick feet, replaces Colombo.

 

13 (144) – WAS – Delone Carter, RB, Syracuse – Tough runner is a great value here, a good running game will help Newton.

 

14 (145) – STL – Ray Dominguez, G, Arkansas – They have been scouting guards hard, Dominguez is a power guy that is not a plodder.

 

15 (146) – MIA – Edmund Gates, WR, Abilene Christian – Flat out speed to keep the safeties honest.

 

16 (147) – JAC – Ahmad Black, CB/SS, Florida – Grabbing the local guy, could compete as a nickel CB or push Greene at SS.  Can't believe he fell this far.

 

17 (148) – OAK – Zach Hurd, G, Connecticut – A tall guard to replace Gallery, but more importantly a strong guard that can improve the power game.

 

18 (149) – PHI – Derrick Locke, RB, Kentucky – The team with a million picks grabs a different type of RB.

 

19 (150) – MIN – Douglas Hogue, WLB, Syracuse – Allows them to let Leber go (his money was spent on Greenway), increased speed at the position.

 

20 (151) – TB – Pierre Allen, RDE, Nebraska – The strongest need and a better player than any OL here.

 

21 (152) – IND – Graig Cooper, RB, Miami – Brown finished strong but Addai has been declining and could wind up as a UFA.

 

22 (153) – PHI – Pernell McPhee, LDE, Mississippi St. - With so many picks, they will grab a clear BPA.

 

23 (154) – DET – Tandon Doss, WR, Indiana – Replaces Bryant Johnson as the #3 WR, a tall athlete with potential.  Better value here than OL needs.

 

24 (155) – WAS – Chris Neild, NT, West Virginia – They need an anchor on the Dline, they still have too many 4-3 players in their 3-4.

 

25 (156) – SEA – Chykie Brown, CB, Texas – Another tall, fast CB, the position needs multiple picks.

 

26 (157) – SEA – Cliff Matthews, RDE, South Carolina – An edge pass rusher with great potential.

 

27 (158) – ATL – Terrance Turner, WR, Indiana – Similar to his mate Doss, a player with the desired physical attributes that need to be developed, and room on the roster for him and Cobb.

 

28 (159) – NE – Jalil Brown, FS/CB, Colorado – I see him more as a safety, Meriweather could be leaving and CB depth is useful.

 

29 (160) – CHI – Justin Rogers, CB, Richmond – I'm surprised I dropped him this far, great value here and the position of greatest need left.

 

30 (161) – NYJ – Bruce Miller, OLB, Central Florida – A pass rush specialist to replace Taylor, high motor guy.

 

31 (162) – PIT – Joseph Lefeged, FS, Rutgers – Clark can be upgraded, Lefeged is fast and a good hitter, always important in Pittsburgh.

 

32 (163) – GB – Noel Devine, RB, West Virginia – A change-of-pace back since they have so many big RBs.

 

33 (164) – BAL – Daniel Thomas, RB, Kansas St. - Many will be surprised to see him this far down, but I see him as too skinny for his height and not fast enough.

 

34 (165) – BAL – Ricky Stanzi, QB, Iowa – Ravens are on the top of my list for needing a backup QB.

 

 

 

SIXTH ROUND:

 

 

 

1 (166) – CAR – Richard Sherman, CB, Stanford

 

2 (167) – CIN – Ronald Johnson, WR, USC

 

3 (168) – CLE – Virgil Green, TE, Nevada

 

4 (169) – BUF – Andrew Jackson, G, Fresno State

 

5 (170) – CLE – Chris Hairston, RT, Clemson

 

6 (171) – ARI – Jarriel King, LT, South Carolina

 

7 (172) – MIN – Ian Williams, 1DT, Notre Dame

 

8 (173) – SEA – Willie Smith, RT, East Carolina

 

9 (174) – SF – Adam Grant, G/RT, Arizona

 

10 (175) – TEN – Anthony Sherman, FB, Connecticut

 

11 (176) – DAL – Chris White, ILB, Mississippi State

 

12 (177) – WAS – Dwayne Harris, WR, East Carolina

 

13 (178) – HOU – David Carter, DLE, UCLA

 

14 (179) – MIA – Jordan Cameron, TE, USC

 

15 (180) – BAL – Brandon Hogan, CB, West Virginia

 

16 (181) – OAK – Lee Smith, TE, Marshall

 

17 (182) – JAC – Adrian Moten, WLB, Maryland

 

18 (183) – SD – Kelvin Sheppard, ILB, LSU

 

19 (184) – ARI – Mark Herzlich, SILB, Boston College

 

20 (185) – NYG – Henry Hynoski, FB, Pittsburgh

 

21 (186) – DEN – Rob Housler, TE, Florida Atlantic

 

22 (187) – TB – Jeron Johnson, SS, Boise State

 

23 (188) – IND – Zack Williams, C/G, Washington State

 

24 (189) – DEN – Scott Lutrus, SLB/MLB, Connecticut

 

25 (190) – SF – Brandon Bair, RDE, Oregon

 

26 (191) – BAL – Casey Matthews, ILB, Oregon

 

27 (192) – ATL – Korey Lindsey, CB, Southern Illinois

 

28 (193) – NE – Owen Marecic, FB/ILB, Stanford

 

29 (194) – NYJ – Josh Thomas, CB, Buffalo

 

30 (195) – CHI – Mike Mohammed, SLB/MLB, California

 

31 (196) – PIT – Thomas Keiser, OLB, Stanford

 

32 (197) – GB – Sealver Siliga, DE, Utah

 

33 (198) – NYG – Dane Sanzenbacher, WR, Ohio State

 

34 (199) – KC – Greg McElroy, QB, Alabama

 

35 (200) – MIN – Shiloh Keo, SS, Idaho

 

36 (201) – SD – Da’rell Scott, RB, Maryland

 

37 (202) – NYG – Cedric Thornton, DT, Southern Arkansas

 

38 (203) – CAR – Alex Green, RB, Hawaii

 

 

 

SEVENTH ROUND:

 

 

 

1 (204) – GB – T. J. Yates, QB, North Carolina

 

2 (205) – DET – Darius Morris, RG, Temple

 

3 (206) – BUF – Nathan Enderle, QB, Idaho

 

4 (207) – CIN – Taiwan Jones, RB, Eastern Washington

 

5 (208) – NYJ – Tori Gurley, WR, South Carolina

 

6 (209) – SEA – Stanley Havili, FB, USC

 

7 (210) – ATL – Martin Parker, DT, Richmond

 

8 (211) – SF – Brandyn Thompson, CB, Boise State

 

9 (212) – TEN – DeJon Gomes, CB/S, Nebraska

 

10 (213) – WAS – Johnathan Freeny, OLB, Rutgers

 

11 (214) – HOU – Steven Friday, OLB, Virginia Tech

 

12 (215) – MIN – Ricardo Lockette, WR, Fort Valley State

 

13 (216) – STL – Will Hill, FS, Florida

 

14 (217) – MIA – Vai Taua, RB, Nevada

 

15 (218) – MIA – Harold Ayodele, NT, Emporia State

 

16 (219) – OAK – DeMarcus Van Dyke, CB, Miami

 

17 (220) – DAL – Dion Lewis, RB, Pittsburgh

 

18 (221) – NYG – Andrew Rich, SS/LB, BYU

 

19 (222) – TB – Zane Taylor, C, Utah

 

20 (223) – KC- Jamie Harper, RB, Clemson

 

21 (224) – WAS – David Arkin, G, Missouri State

 

22 (225) – BAL – Armon Binns, WR, Cincinnati

 

23 (226) – NO – Blaine Sumner, 1DT, Colorado School of Mines

 

24 (227) – PHI – DeAndre Brown, WR, Southern Mississippi

 

25 (228) – STL – Brian Rolle, WLB, Ohio State

 

26 (229) – ATL – Jerrard Tarrant, S, Georgia Tech

 

27 (230) – ATL – Ryan Winterswyk, DE, Boise State

 

28 (231) – SF – Ryan Whalen, WR, Stanford

 

29 (232) – PIT – Nick Bellore, ILB, Central Michigan

 

30 (233) – GB – Eddie Jones, OLB, Texas

 

31 (234) – SD – Julius Thomas, TE, Portland State

 

32 (235) – MIA – Curt Porter, RT, Jacksonville State

 

33 (236) – MIN – Charlie Gantt, TE, Michigan State

 

34 (237) – PHI – Joshua Portis, QB, California (PA)

 

35 (238) – TB – Daniel Kilgore, G, Appalachian State

 

36 (239) – SF – Charles Clay, FB/TE, Tulsa

 

37 (240) – PHI – J. T. Thomas, LB, West Virginia

 

38 (241) – OAK – Mario Fannin, RB, Auburn

 

39 (242) – SEA – Jermale Hines, S, Ohio St.

 

40 (243) – NO – Akeem Dent, SLB, Georgia

 

41 (244) – CAR – Byron Stingily, T, Louisville

 

42 (245) – BUF – Eric Hagg, S, Nebraska

 

43 (246) – CIN – Laupepa Letuli, G, Hawaii

 

44 (247) – DEN – Byron Maxwell, CB/S, Clemson

 

45 (248) – CLE – Josh Bynes, MLB, Auburn

 

46 (249) – ARI – Jeff Maehl, WR, Oregon

 

47 (250) – SF – Ryan Bartholomew, C, Syracuse

 

48 (251) – TEN – Daniel Hardy, TE, Idaho

 

49 (252) – DAL – Da’Norris Searcy, SS, North Carolina

 

50 (253) – WAS – Karl Klug, RDE, Iowa

 

51 (254) – HOU – Chris Rucker, CB, Michigan State

 

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Mocking The Draft Comp Pick Predictions

 

 

It looks like AdamJT13 has abandoned his excellent work in predicting compensatory picks.  Since I want to start working on my final 7-round mock now, I decided to look at slotting comp picks myself.  I claim no credit for this work, as I did nothing original.  I shamelessly used AdamJT13's publicly posted guidelines as best as I could.  You can find his work at adamjt13.blogspot.com.  If you are unfamiliar with his work, the basics that affect comp picks are: 

1.  Players that are cut or not tendered as RFAs are not counted. 

2. Each player signed cancels out one player lost. 

3.  The round of the pick awarded is primarily determined by the total value of the contract signed.

I will first list the comp picks awarded and then provide the related team free agent activity at the end.  I am not explaining teams that did not get comp picks to save time.  But if you want an explanation or additional information for any of the 32 teams, let me know.  I also need your help.  If you know that one the players listed in the explanation section was cut by his previous team or was an untendered restricted free agent, please let me know.  They should not be in the comp pick analysis.  I relied on what information I could find.

I awarded 19 normal comp picks.  I am fairly confident in this number, but less confident in their round placement, because I am not sure how much the amount of playing time alters the placement by salary.  AJ Feeley did not take a snap, maybe that knocks him back a round.  Kampman and Vanden Bosch had the same contracts, but Kampman missed significant time.  The order of picks inside the late rounds is a mystery to me; AdamJT13 seemed to indicate playing time was more of a factor.  I awarded 2 net value picks (value difference between player lost and signed).  Since 32 comp picks must be awarded, that leaves 11 additional picks at the end, which follow the first 11 picks of the first round.

 

Compensatory Picks Awarded (round - team - player)

3 - Carolina - Julius Peppers

3 - Tennessee - Kyle Vanden Bosch (possibly a 4)

4 - Green Bay - Aaron Kampman  (possibly a 3)

4 - Seattle - Nate Burleson (possibly a 5)

5 - Baltimore - Justin Bannan

5 - New York Giants - Fred Robbins (possibly a 6)

6 - Miami - Nate Jones

6 - Minnesota - Chester Taylor

6 - San Diego - Brandon Manumaleuna

6 - Minnesota - Artis Hicks

6 - New York Giants - David Carr

6 - Carolina - AJ Feeley

6 - Kansas City - Wade Smith

7 - Philadelphia - Sean Jones

7 - Philadelphia - Jason Babin

7 - San Diego - Kassim Osgood

7 - New York Jets - Jay Feely

7 - Tampa Bay - Jimmy Wilkerson

7 - San Francisco - Arnaz Battle

 

7 - New Orleans

7 - New England

 

7 - Carolina

7 - Denver

7 - Buffalo

7 - Cincinnati

7 - Arizona

7 - Cleveland

7 - San Francisco

7 - Tennessee

7 - Dallas

7 - Washington

7 - Houston

 

Explanations (with contract signed):

Baltimore - Lost:  Bannan (5 yr $22 million), Edwards (4 yr $18 million)

                        Signed:  Redding (2 yr $6 million)

Carolina - Lost:  Peppers (6 yr $91.5 million), Feeley (2 yr $6 million)

Green Bay - Lost:  Kampman (4 yr $26 million)

Kansas City - Lost:  Smith (4 yr $12 million)

Miami - Lost:  Taylor (2 yr $13 million), Jones (4 yr 13.6 million)

                        Signed:  Dansby (5 yr $43 million)

Minnesota - Lost:  Taylor (4 yr 12.5 million), Hicks (3 yr $9 million)

New York Giants - Lost:  Robbins (3 yr $12 million), Carr (2 yr $6.2 million)

New York Jets - Lost:  Alan Faneca (2 yr $5 million), Feely (2 yr $3.5 million)

                                    Signed:  Taylor (2 yr $13 million)

Philadelphia - Lost:  Babin (1 yr $1 million), Jones (2 yr $3 million)

San Diego - Lost:  Manumaleuna (5 yr $15 million), Osgood (3 yr $6.675 million)

San Francisco - Lost:  Pashos (3 yr $10.5 million), Battle (3 yr $3.9 million)

                                    Signed: Carr (2 yr $6.2 million)

Seattle - Lost:  Burleson (5 yr $25 million), Redding (2 yr $6 million)

                        Signed:  Hamilton (1 yr $2 million)

Tampa Bay - Lost:  Allen (3 yr $6.25 million), Wilkerson (1 yr $1 million)

                        Signed:  Jones (2 yr $3 million)

Tennessee - Lost:  Vanden Bosch (4 yr $26 million), Crumpler (2 yr $2.4 million)

                        Signed:  Babin (1 yr $1 million)

 

Net Value Explanations:

New Orleans - Lost:  Fujita (3 yr $14 million)

                        Signed:  Wilkerson (1 yr $1 million)

New England - Lost:  Watson (3 yr $12 million)

                        Signed:  Crumpler (2 yr $2.4 million)

 

Other Interesting Tidbits:

New York Giants and Seattle saved their comp picks by signing players (Bulluck and Pitts) after the end of the free agency period on July 23.

Houston lost their 3 (from Dunta Robinson) by signing Wade Smith and Neil Rackers.

Arizona led the league in qualifying free agency transactions and prediction difficulty.  They lost their 3 (from Karlos Dansby) by signing more players than they lost.

 

If you think I made any errors or omissions, please let me know.

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Big Blue View Comp Picks Predicted for Giants

 

 

For those of you not obsessed with the draft, you may not be familiar with the work of AdamJT13.  He is, as far as I know, the only person that has ever done original work to figure out the method the NFL uses to award compensatory draft picks.  Since his blog is quiet this year, I decided to use the information he posted to make my own educated guesses about comp picks. 

And lo and behold, it looks like the Giants should get 2 picks!  I believe that we will get a 5th rounder for Fred Robbins and a 6th rounder for David Carr.  In the worst-case scenario we should get a 6th and 7th.

Both players are eligible for consideration because they were unrestricted free agents that were not cut by the Giants.  Salary is the primary factor in determining value, followed by playing time.  Robbins signed with St. Louis for 3 years / $12 million, which is right on AdamJT13's borderline of 5th/6th round value.  The fact that Robbins started all 16 games should give him a 5th round value.  Carr signed with San Fran for 2 years / $6.2 million, which is in the middle of the 6th round value segment, which should give us breathing room because Carr only played in one game.

And now we give Reese a pat on the back.  You lose a potential comp pick if you sign an eligible player during the free agent signing period, which last year ended on July 23.  We signed Keith Bulluck on July 24.  This timing saves us the Carr pick, as Bulluck's $1.1 million salary would have taken off the lower of our two picks. 

No other players figured in the comp plan equations.  Ineligible players were as follows:

Kevin Dockery - non-tendered RFA

CC Brown - non-tendered RFA

Practice squadders - no rights

Bryan Kehl - cut

Danny Clark - cut by new team (Houston)

Jim Sorgi - cut by Colts

Deon Grant - cut by Seattle

Antrel Rolle - cut by Arizona

Shawn Andrews - cut by Philly

Brian Jackson - cut by Jets

Jamon Meredith - cut by everybody

Devin Thomas - cut by Carolina

Michael Clayton - cut by Tampa Bay

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Mocking The Draft 2011 mock 2 - 5 rounds

This started as a 4-round mock, but ENs and Montell shamed me into doing 5.  The 5th round was an easy round, actually, because the available talent really influenced the picks.  Explanations for the first round only, after that you have to ask.

I have QBs going early, DTs going late.  I'm just not that enamoured with Fairley.  Started good with RB, but many fell late, as always happens in mocks.  With such a large pool of second-tier CBs, some of them went later than they should also.  There is a lot of demand for OL.  Not a great year for the OL, but I think the RT class is solid.

Please excuse the formatting, I start these in Excel, and I never seem to get it over 100% intact

 

 

1ST ROUND:

CAROLINA - A.J. Green, WR - The best player in the draft. Despite the promise shown by LaFell and Gettis, there is no comparison. Instantly makes Clausen better.

 

DENVER - Patrick Peterson, CB - Elite athlete, he may give up some catches but he is never beat. More worried about Cox than Bailey, the NFL takes his charges seriously. Not surprising, Cox had character concerns coming into last year's draft.

 

BUFFALO - Robert Quinn, OLB - The other top athlete at the top of the draft, the opposite of Maybin. Will obtain his needed development from Merriman, can play 4-3 if they switch back. Can play the run as well as rush the passer.

 

CINCINNATI - Da'Quan Bowers, DE - Cincy picks production instead of potential this time. Dunlap stays on the left side, goes inside on passing downs. Palmer is given another chance.

 

ARIZONA - Jake Locker, QB - The QB most ready to play, they are not going to take a chance on another team's discards again.

 

CLEVELAND - Julio Jones, WR - Talent and need match, I have Jones rated higher than any DL here.

 

SAN FRANCISCO - Prince Amukamara, CB - QB is a major need, but I don't think they like anyone here.

 

TENNESSEE - Ryan Mallett, QB - Tennessee goes for the traditional pocket passer, similar to Collins but with a stronger arm. He's going to break fingers.

 

DALLAS - Marcel Dareus, DE - Not the biggest need, but Dallas picks the best player left, a Day 1 starter.

 

WASHINGTON - Blaine Gabbert, QB - Big arm, mobile, reminds me of so many Denver QBs. With the Shanahans' control issues, they avoid the star power of Newton.

 

HOUSTON - Akeem Ayers, OLB - Barwin will rush the passer and Ayers will play more coverage. I think this is early for Paea, and think he is more of a DT than NT, despite Phillips having Ratliff in Dallas.

 

MINNESOTA - Cam Newton, QB - I think they will still chase a veteran QB like McNabb for now, but they want a long-term solution at QB as well.

 

DETROIT - Brendan Harris, CB - The best fit of the top players left, but I also think there is an outside chance that Ingram goes here.

 

ST. LOUIS - Nick Fairley, DT - Spags likes DTs that can pressure the QB, and he is a great value here.

 

MIAMI - Mark Ingram, RB - They had their greatest success in recent years when they could run the ball.

 

JACKSONVILLE - Ryan Kerrigan, DE - No major need players here, he will be the future replacement for Kampman. Very consistent college production, got to the QB every game last year.

 

NEW ENGLAND - Cameron Jordan, DE - A playmaker that they used to have with Seymour, a handful to block.

 

SAN DIEGO - Von Miller, OLB - I could also see a DE here, but it's hard to pass up a pass rusher used to the OLB position.

 

NEW YORK GIANTS - Gabe Carimi, RT - A player that fits the Giants power run game.

 

TAMPA BAY - Adrian Clayborn, DE - They need help at LDE and RDE, pass rush and run defense, they would prefer Kerrigan but will take the next best option.

 

KANSAS CITY - Jonathan Baldwin, WR - No production at WR except for Bowe.

 

INDIANAPOLIS - Anthony Castonzo, LT - Ready to start and skills fit Indy's system.

 

PHILADELPHIA - Kyle Rudolph, TE - I did not want to reach for a need here, instead found a big target for Vick to match with the small, speedy WRs, in a similar spot to where Gresham and Pettigrew went.

 

NEW ORLEANS - Mikel LeShoure, RB - The offense had problems with an inconsistent running game this year, LeShoure's variety of skills might come in handy if Bush is a salary casualty. Bailey and Beal also considered.

 

SEATTLE - Allen Bailey, LDE - Gives them a pass rush presence on the other side of the line, could also be a rush specialist at DT on passing downs.

 

BALTIMORE - Justin Houston, OLB - It looks like Kindle will never play, gives them a rusher to eventually replace Suggs and his high price tag, looks very comfortable as an OLB.

 

ATLANTA - Derek Sherrod, LT - They have the luxury of picking a developmental player, someone much more athletic than Baker. Torrey Smith also a possibility, but they seem to like Jenkins for some reason.

 

NEW ENGLAND - Stefen Wisniewski, G/C - The replacement for Mankins who could also slide over to replace Koppen someday.

 

GREEN BAY - DeMarcus Love, T - Will compete with Bulaga for the left tackle slot, loser plays right. Tauscher is a medical retire, maybe Clifton plays one more year while the young guys learn. Had Houston to them before the playoffs changed the order.

 

NEW YORK JETS - Cameron Heyward, DE - Strong player with pursuit ability, will be groomed to replace Ellis and will cover DeVito on passing downs now. Watt or Beal were other thoughts.

 

CHICAGO - Mike Pouncey, OL - I'm leaving the position open. With some additional training, he might make it as a center. With his quickness, I could even see him at RT. But he should at least be able to force Garza into retirement. Love would be another great versatile pick for them if he falls.

 

PITTSBURGH - Jimmy Smith, CB - Pitt's corners were better this year than last, but they could still use young talent for the future. I don't see Paea as a NT for them and don't like Cannon as a guard for them in the first. Watt would be my second choice.

 

2ND ROUND:

NE

Jeremy Beal, OLB

BUF

Tryon Smith, T

CIN

Stephen Paea, DT

DEN

Drake Nevis, DT

CLE

J.J. Watt, LDE

ARI

Aldon Smith, OLB

TEN

Jake Kirkpatrick, C

DAL

Marcus Cannon, RT/G

WAS

Jason Pinkston, G

HOU

Rahim Moore, FS

MIN

Nate Solder, LT

DET

Martez Wilson, LB

SF

Pat Devlin, QB

DEN

Bruce Carter, WLB

STL

Torrey Smith, WR

OAK

Greg Jones, WLB

JAC

Aaron Williams, CB

SD

Brandon Burton, CB

TB

Quan Sturdivant, MLB

NYG

Ryan Williams, RB

IND

Tyler Sash, SS

PHI

John Moffitt, G/C

KC

Jerrell Powe, NT

NO

Mason Foster, SLB

SEA

Marvin Austin, DT

BAL

Titus Young, WR

ATL

Randall Cobb, WR/RS

NE

Rodney Hudson, G

SD

Christian Ballard, DE

CHI

Jurrell Casey, DT

GB

Dontay Moch, OLB

PIT

Benjamin Ijalana, G/RT

3RD ROUND:

CAR

Corey Liuget, DT

CIN

DeAndre McDaniel, FS

DEN

Jordan Todman, RB

BUF

Luke Stocker, TE

ARI

Joseph Barksdale, LT

CLE

Muhammad Wilkerson, DT

DAL

Deunta Williams, FS

NO

Sione Fua, DT

HOU

Kenrick Ellis, NT

NE

Ahmad Black, FS/CB

DET

Kristofer O'Dowd, C/G

SF

Jerrel Jernigan, WR

TEN

Mark Herzlich, LB

STL

Shane Vereen, RB

MIA

Orlando Franklin, G

JAC

Ras-I Dowling, FS/CB

OAK

Danny Watkins, G

SD

Leonard Hankerson, WR

NYG

Robert Sands, SS/SLB

TB

Greg Romeus, RDE

PHI

Davon House, CB

KC

Marcus Gilbert, RT

IND

Jarvis Jenkins, DT

NO

Sam Acho, RDE

SD

Lee Ziemba, RT

BAL

Johnny Patrick, CB

ATL

D.J. Williams, TE

NE

Austin Pettis, WR

CHI

Curtis Brown, CB

NYJ

Jaiquawn Jarrett, S

GB

Greg Little, WR

PIT

Phil Taylor, NT

4TH ROUND:

CAR

Stephen Schilling, G

SEA

Chimdi Chekwa, CB

BUF

Andrew Dalton, QB

CIN

Christopher Hairston, RT

CLE

James Carpenter, RT

ARI

Rashad Carmichael, CB

PHI

Clint Boling, G/RT

HOU

Dwayne Harris, WR

MIN

Quinton Carter, S

DET

Lawrence Wilson, WLB

SF

Jabaal Sheard, OLB

TEN

Lance Kendricks, TE

DAL

Justin Boren, G

MIA

Ronald Johnson, WR/RS

STL

K.J. Wright, SLB

OAK

Justin Rogers, CB

JAC

Greg McElroy, QB

SF

Lawrence Guy, DE

TB

DeMarco Murray, RB

NYG

Marcus Gilchrist, CB/FS/RS

KC

Christian Ponder, QB

IND

Jacquizz Rodgers, RB

PHI

Kendric Burney, CB

JAC

Nate Irving, LB

BUF

Colin McCarthy, ILB

BAL

Tim Barnes, C

ATL

Terrance Toliver, WR

NE

Daniel Thomas, RB

NYJ

Steven Friday, OLB

CHI

DeAndre Brown, WR

GB

Brandyn Thompson, CB

PIT

Tejay Johnson, FS

5TH ROUND:

CAR

Shareece Wright, CB

BUF

Kelvin Sheppard, ILB

CIN

Colin Kaepernick, QB

TB

Will Rackley, G

ARI

Jordan Cameron, TE

CLE

Kendall Hunter, RB

HOU

Korey Lindsey, CB

MIN

Will Hill, S

DET

Delone Carter, RB

SF

Dejon Gomes, FS/CB

TEN

Andrew Jackson, G

DAL

Adam Grant, RT/G

WAS

Vincent Brown, WR

STL

Cliff Matthews, RDE

MIA

Alex Linnenkohl, C

JAC

Tandon Doss, WR

OAK

Casey Matthews, LB

PHI

Noel Devine, RB

MIN

Laupepa Letuli, G

TB

Jah Reid, RT

IND

Brandon Fusco, C/G

PHI

David Carter, DT

KC

Graig Cooper, RB

WAS

Ian Williams, NT

SEA

Derek Hall, RT

BAL

James Brewer, RT

ATL

Pernell McPhee, LDE

NE

Chris Culliver, FS/CB/RS

CHI

Derek Newton, T

NYJ

Jeremy Kerley, WR/RS

GB

Ricky Stanzi, QB

PIT

Brandon Bair, DE

 

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Big Blue View Bowl games Giants fans should watch



The college bowl season is in full swing.  But how do you choose which games to watch?  I'd suggest doing some advance scouting for the draft.  See which players you would like to be Giants.  So with that in mind, here are my suggestions for bowl games from tonight through this weekend with a list of a few possible Giants in them.  I also added in some other prominent players that will go early to other teams.

 

Tonight (12/30):

NEBRASKA VS. WASHINGTON

NEBRASKA:

Alex Henery, K/P - He kicks.  He punts.  He leaps over tall buildings in a single bound.  Best kicker in the draft, maybe the best punter.  68-76 lifetime on FGs, with a long of 57.  30 punts inside the 20 last year.

Lavonte David, LB - At 6-1 215, he will be a SS in the NFL.  Perfect for the Deon Grant S/LB tweener role.  A junior that may return for his senior year.

Niles Paul, WR/KR/PR - Since the Giants always seem to value size, this could be a guy considered as a late round returner, also about 6-1 215.

Roy Helu, RB - Mid- to late round prospect

Prince Amukamara, CB - Likely 1st round pick, could wind up in Dallas.  Could play safety.

Jared Crick, DT - Monster strength, could also play 3-4 DE

Eric Hagg, S, DeJon Gomes, CB/S - late round backup picks

WASHINGTON:

Jake Locker, QB - One of the top QBs in the draft, could get a look from Washington.  Very inconsistent.

Nate Williams, S - Could get a look in the mid- to late rounds.

 

NORTH CAROLINA VS. TENNESSEE

NORTH CAROLINA:

Bruce Carter, LB - Injured and not playing.  Crap.  ACL tear is a concern.

Quan Sturdivant, MLB - For all the Goff upgraders out there, he may be the top MLB in the draft.

Kendric Burney, CB - Good quickness, but would the Giants consider a guy 5-9?

Deunta Williams, S - Big guy around 6-2 215, having a very poor year.

TENNESSEE:

Luke Stocker TE - One of the top TEs in the draft, big body, good hands

 

 

Saturday, January 1:

FLORIDA VS. PENN STATE

FLORIDA:

Marcus Gilbert, RT - 6-5 320, played a little LT and G, but not really the LT type.

Mike Pouncey, G - Twin brother of the Steelers' center, did not have much luck trying to play center earlier this year.  Not as talented as his brother, but still a top draft prospect.

Ahmad Black, S - Rising up the draft boards, but maybe not for the Giants at 5-9.

Will Hill, S - A junior that may not come out, local Jersey product

Janoris Jenkins, CB - Hurt shoulder and not playing, but could be a 1st rounder if he comes out as a junior.

PENN STATE:

Stefen Wisniewski, C - Possibly the top center in the draft, uncle played guard for the Raiders.

 

WISCONSIN VS. TCU

WISCONSIN:

Gabe Carimi, LT - 6-7 320, mauler.  Concerns about foot speed have many projecting him at RT, but a great hand punch slows down the outside rush.  Top run-blocking tackle in the draft.

John Moffit, LG - 6-5 320, another big powerful blocker.  Played some center at Wisconsin, so the Giants could have interest because of that.

JJ Watt, DE - A big guy at 6-6 285, has been flying up draft boards because of his performance this year.  Hustles every play.  Could see a lot of interest as a 3-4 DE.

TCU:

Marcus Cannon, LT - At 6-5 350, is probably going to be a RT or G in the NFL.  But quicker than people give him credit for, he will be very attractive to our competitors the Eagles and Cowboys.

Jake Kirkpatrick, C - One of the top centers in the draft.

 

OKLAHOMA VS. CONNECTICUT:

OKLAHOMA:

Travis Lewis, LB - With Carter's injury is likely to be the top LB taken in the draft.  Oklahoma likes to move him around to let him make plays.

Quinton Carter, FS - Expected to be a middle round talent similar to Jones last year

DeMarco Murray, RB - One of those good-at-all-things-expert-at-none players, I would compare him to Tiki.  Can block and catch.

Jeremy Beal, DE/OLB - Pass rusher expected to go in early rounds, not likely to Giants.

Ryan Broyles, WR/PR - Will be picked as a WR before we could nab him as a returner, may return for another year.

CONNECTICUT:

Jordan Todman, RB - A smaller back (5-9 190) that may return for his senior year, but a guy with tons of production that is hard to catch.

 

Missed this one originally:

Michigan State vs. Alabama

MICHIGAN STATE:

Greg Jones, MLB - Rorschach's least favorite player, can play MLB or WLB and has put up big tackling numbers over the last few years, a 2nd round player that could push into the 1st with a good postseason.

 

ALABAMA:

Mark Barron, S - A big hitter that played a very disciplined 2-deep zone safety this year, a 2nd-3rd rounder.

Donta Hightower, ILB - A huge body around 260 lbs., fills the gap like Harry Carson.  Not fit for a 4-3.

Mark Ingram, RB - The son of our ex-WR, best RB in the draft.

Greg McElroy, QB - Will get a look somewhere as a backup QB.

Julio Jones, WR - Size and speed, should be picked early in the 1st round.  If he falls, maybe the Giants bite as a BPA pick.

Marcel Dareus, DE (3-4) - Many believe he is a Top 10 pick, could play DT in a 4-3.

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Mocking The Draft Drafttek 7 rounds as per YOUR needs

So after Steve_Chiefs posted a 7-rounder from Drafttek here based on his own Chiefs picks, I became interested in how the picks were generated.  I thought that the idea of a more professional, unbiased, automated draft sounded interesting.  So I looked at how it was set up.  They have 32 people there that provide the "need" rating for their team, that in concert with their player ratings creates the draft.  But I found I disagreed with their need ratings more than the player ratings.  They have Indy as the most likely team to reach for a need.  Several times.  Pittsburgh with a demand for a center.  The Jets with zero need for a WR despite the fact that both starters are free agents.  Numerous ratings seem to have been based on this season's injury issues, as if none of the injured players were ever going to play again.

So I went back through this site to find the team needs that you have posted.  The division team needs fanposts were very useful for half of the teams, as was the 32-team QB analysis fanpost.  I completely rewrote the drafttek need chart.  I tried to defer to BPA more than need, creating almost a two-tiered system where several positions were listed as strong needs and several were listed as lesser needs.  The result is below.  In general, for those do not know the system, the CRI of P1 represents the strongest need, decreasing in intensity to P6.  I only had one P1 (Arizona QB).  The delta numbers reflect how far the player has been picked from where drafttek has them on their big board.  The higher the need rating, the further down the big board they will look for the position.

The needs ratings are absent for rounds 5+.  I found that some computer error mangled the needs ratings beyond recognition.  Rounds 5 & 6 I had to heavily manually modify because of this.  Drafttek really wanted NE to pick 2+ TEs again this year.  They also gave me a lot of problems with Cincy every time I ran the mock.  Biased programming?  I used their rankings of players, except for QB where I exercised a little discretion.  They have Kaepernick rated very high, I had to work to move him back a little, I stuck him with NE because they have a zillion picks and can afford the chance.  They have RBs and ILBs rated higher than most people want them, so some teams got those positions earlier than they wanted.  Interior O-line and CBs were rated lowly, so many teams that had those wants missed out on them.  Beyond the usuals  in rounds 1 & 2, they had few CBs with mid-round ratings.

I edited the position labels a little to show why I found those players acceptable in their spots.  The drafttek site draft can separate LT from RT, but the public one cannot.  One of several features they use but the public cannot.  I also found it very annoying you cannot save anything, so my edited needs chart is gone.  I won't be doing this again.  Drafftek is a great concept, but needs more finishing touches on the programming level and better sources for rating team needs.

 

Round Pick Team Selection Psn School CRI Delta ReachValue
1 1 Carolina Andrew Luck QB Stanford P1 0 Value
1 2 Cincinnati A.J. Green WR Georgia P3 -6 Reach
1 3 Denver Nick Fairley DE34 Auburn P2 1 Value
1 4 Detroit Prince Amukamara CB Nebraska P3 1 Value
1 5 Buffalo Robert Quinn OLB34 North Carolina P3 -4 Reach
1 6 Arizona Patrick Peterson CB LSU P3 -1 Reach
1 7 Dallas Da'Quan Bowers DE34 Clemson P3 3 Value
1 8 Tennessee Bruce Carter OLB43 North Carolina P2 -3 Reach
1 9 San Francisco Marcell Dareus DE34 Alabama P3 3 Value
1 10 Washington Cameron Newton QB Auburn P3 -2 Reach
1 11 Cleveland Julio Jones WR Alabama P1 -4 Reach
1 12 Houston Brandon Harris CB Miami (FL) P3 -10 Reach
1 13 Seattle Derek Sherrod RT Mississippi State P3 3 Value
1 14 Minnesota Akeem Ayers OLB43 UCLA P6 -4 Reach
1 15 St Louis Cameron Jordan DE43 California P3 2 Value
1 16 New England Anthony Castonzo LT Boston College P3 2 Value
1 17 Miami Mark Ingram RB Alabama P2 12 Value
1 18 Indianapolis DeMarcus Love LT Arkansas P3 -3 Reach
1 19 Kansas City Justin Blackmon WR Oklahoma State P2 -1 Reach
1 20 San Diego Von Miller OLB34 Texas A&M P3 -6 Reach
1 21 Tampa Bay Ryan Kerrigan DE43 Purdue P2 -10 Reach
1 22 Jacksonville Janoris Jenkins CB Florida P3 -11 Reach
1 23 Green Bay Justin Houston OLB34 Georgia P2 -6 Reach
1 24 Chicago Gabe Carimi OT Wisconsin P3 -6 Reach
1 25 NY Giants Greg Jones OLB43 Michigan State P3 2 Value
1 26 NY Jets Adrian Clayborn DE34 Iowa P2 10 Value
1 27 Philadelphia Marcus Cannon OG TCU P2 -8 Reach
1 28 Baltimore Michael Floyd WR Notre Dame P3 -8 Reach
1 29 New Orleans J.J. Watt LDE43 Wisconsin P3 4 Value
1 30 Pittsburgh Stephen Paea NT Oregon State P3 2 Value
1 31 Atlanta Kyle Rudolph TE Notre Dame P3 14 Value
1 32 New England Stefen Wisniewski OG/OC Penn State P3 -2 Reach
2 33 New England Cameron Heyward DE34 Ohio State P3 -6 Reach
2 34 Cincinnati Ryan Mallett QB Arkansas P4 10 Value
2 35 Denver Corey Liuget NT Illinois P2 -13 Reach
2 36 Detroit Jason Pinkston OG Pittsburgh P2 -1 Reach
2 37 Buffalo Nate Solder OT Colorado P3 -10 Reach
2 38 Arizona Jake Locker QB Washington P1 -39 Reach
2 39 Dallas Ahmad Black FS Florida P3 1 Value
2 40 Tennessee Jimmy Smith CB Colorado P2 -11 Reach
2 41 San Francisco Ryan Broyles WRslot Oklahoma P5 -3 Reach
2 42 Washington Allen Bailey DE34 Miami (FL) P3 -1 Reach
2 43 Cleveland Kendall Hunter RBC Oklahoma State P4 1 Value
2 44 Houston Travis Lewis OLB43 Oklahoma P4 12 Value
2 45 Seattle Rodney Hudson OG Florida State P3 -13 Reach
2 46 Minnesota Mark Barron S Alabama P2 -10 Reach
2 47 St Louis Drake Nevis DT43 LSU P3 7 Value
2 48 Oakland Jake Kirkpatrick OC TCU P3 -7 Reach
2 49 Denver Mikel LeShoure RB Illinois P4 30 Value
2 50 Indianapolis Shane Vereen RB California P4 23 Value
2 51 Kansas City Jerrell Powe NT Mississippi P3 -16 Reach
2 52 San Diego Torrey Smith WR Maryland P3 -2 Reach
2 53 Tampa Bay Quan Sturdivant OLB43 North Carolina P3 4 Value
2 54 Jacksonville Tyler Sash FS Iowa P3 -3 Reach
2 55 Green Bay Orlando Franklin OT Miami (FL) P2 -11 Reach
2 56 Chicago Brandon Burton CB Utah P5 -6 Reach
2 57 NY Giants Davon House CB New Mexico State P3 -22 Reach
2 58 NY Jets Jonathan Baldwin WR Pittsburgh P3 -7 Reach
2 59 Philadelphia Aaron Williams CB Texas P2 -25 Reach
2 60 Baltimore Brian Lainhart S Kent State P4 -12 Reach
2 61 New Orleans Mason Foster OLB43 Washington P3 -7 Reach
2 62 Pittsburgh Matt Reynolds RT BYU P3 -14 Reach
2 63 Atlanta Leonard Hankerson WR Miami (FL) P3 -12 Reach
2 64 New England Jeremy Beal OLB34 Oklahoma P4 -5 Reach
3 65 Carolina Sione Fua DT43 Stanford P3 -8 Reach
3 66 Cincinnati Marvin Austin DT43 North Carolina P3 -22 Reach
3 67 Denver D.J. Williams TE Arkansas P4 22 Value
3 68 Detroit Martez Wilson LB Illinois P4 27 Value
3 69 Buffalo Pat Devlin QB Delaware P3 -33 Reach
3 70 Arizona Aldon Smith OLB34 Missouri P3 -20 Reach
3 71 Dallas Benjamin Ijalana OG Villanova P3 -21 Reach
3 72 Tennessee Lance Kendricks TE Wisconsin P3 12 Value
3 73 San Francisco Christian Ponder QB Florida State P3 -21 Reach
3 74 Washington Dontay Moch OLB34 Nevada P3 0 Value
3 75 Cleveland Christian Ballard DE34 Iowa P2 -11 Reach
3 76 Houston Rahim Moore FS UCLA P3 -22 Reach
3 77 San Diego Curtis Brown CB Texas P3 -35 Reach
3 78 New England Ryan Williams RB Virginia Tech P6 32 Value
3 79 St Louis Austin Pettis WR Boise State P2 -4 Reach
3 80 Oakland Mike Pouncey OG Florida P3 -5 Reach
3 81 Miami Kristofer O'Dowd OC USC P2 -13 Reach
3 82 Indianapolis Ras-I Dowling FS/CB Virginia P4 -14 Reach
3 83 Kansas City Tim Barnes OC Missouri P3 -30 Reach
3 84 San Diego James Carpenter RT Alabama P4 2 Value
3 85 Tampa Bay Danny Watkins OG Baylor P3 -22 Reach
3 86 Jacksonville Colin McCarthy MLB Miami (FL) P6 34 Value
3 87 Green Bay Andy Dalton QB TCU P5 16 Value
3 88 Chicago Stephen Schilling OG Michigan P3 -30 Reach
3 89 NY Giants Joseph Barksdale OT LSU P5 -28 Reach
3 90 San Diego Jared Crick DE34 Nebraska P4 0 Value
3 91 Philadelphia Tank Carder OLB43 TCU P4 32 Value
3 92 Baltimore Chimdi Chekwa CB Ohio State P3 -28 Reach
3 93 New Orleans Jordan Todman RB Connecticut P5 40 Value
3 94 Pittsburgh Courtney Upshaw ILB Alabama P6 30 Value
3 95 Atlanta Tyron Smith LT USC P3 -7 Reach
3 96 New England Colin Kaepernick QB/WR Nevada P6 46 Value
4 97 Carolina Dwayne Harris WR East Carolina P3 -8 Reach
4 98 Cincinnati DeAndre McDaniel FS Clemson P4 -3 Reach
4 99 Seattle Johnny Patrick CB Louisville P3 -46 Reach
4 100 Detroit Mark Herzlich OLB43 Boston College P3 -4 Reach
4 101 Buffalo Luke Stocker TE Tennessee P3 38 Value
4 102 Arizona Lee Ziemba OT Auburn P3 -24 Reach
4 103 Dallas Curt Porter RT Jacksonville State P3 -39 Reach
4 104 Tennessee Brandon Fusco OC Slippery Rock P3 -26 Reach
4 105 San Francisco Jabaal Sheard OLB34 Pittsburgh P3 -4 Reach
4 106 Philadelphia DeMarco Murray RB Oklahoma P6 45 Value
4 107 Cleveland Sam Acho OLB34 Texas P3 -15 Reach
4 108 Houston Kendrick Ellis DT43 Hampton P6 11 Value
4 109 Buffalo Don'ta Hightower ILB Alabama P5 19 Value
4 110 Minnesota John Moffitt OG/OC Wisconsin P3 -33 Reach
4 111 St Louis Nate Irving OLB43 North Carolina State P3 -4 Reach
4 112 Oakland Jurrell Casey DT43 USC P4 -20 Reach
4 113 Miami Dejon Gomes FS Nebraska P6 4 Value
4 114 Indianapolis Jarvis Jenkins DT43 Clemson P3 -22 Reach
4 115 Kansas City Titus Young WR Boise State P6 -1 Reach
4 116 San Francisco Shareece Wright CB USC P3 -41 Reach
4 117 Tampa Bay Noel Devine RBC West Virginia P6 26 Value
4 118 Jacksonville Ronald Johnson WR USC P4 -9 Reach
4 119 Green Bay Daniel Thomas RB Kansas State P4 47 Value
4 120 Chicago Devier Posey WR Ohio State P5 -19 Reach
4 121 NY Giants Quinton Carter FS Oklahoma P4 0 Value
4 122 NY Jets Lavonte David SS Nebraska P4 44 Value
4 123 Philadelphia Rob Housler TE Florida Atlantic P6 9 Value
4 124 Baltimore Kai Forbath PK UCLA P6 21 Value
4 125 Jacksonville Kevin Kowalski OC Toledo P3 -41 Reach
4 126 Pittsburgh Lawrence Guy DE34 Arizona State P6 -7 Reach
4 127 Atlanta Jerrel Jernigan WRslot Troy P6 28 Value
4 128 New England Andrew Rich S BYU P6 -1 Reach
5 129 Carolina Alfonzo Dennard CB Nebraska
-42 Reach
5 130 Cincinnati Adam Grant RT Arizona
-24 Reach
5 131 Tampa Bay Kelvin Sheppard LB LSU
44 Value
5 132 Detroit Vincent Brown WR San Diego State
-18 Reach
5 133 Buffalo Owen Marecic FB/ILB Stanford
52 Value
5 134 Arizona Josh Bynes ILB Auburn
9 Value
5 135 Dallas Chase Minnefield CB Virginia
-64 Reach
5 136 Tennessee Ricky Stanzi QB Iowa
-13 Reach
5 137 San Francisco Johnny Brown FS Mississippi
-19 Reach
5 138 Washington Derrick Locke RBC Kentucky
32 Value
5 139 Cleveland Chris Hairston RT Clemson
-16 Reach
5 140 Houston Randall Cobb WRslot Kentucky
17 Value
5 141 Seattle Pernell McPhee LDE43 Mississippi State
-6 Reach
5 142 Minnesota Konrad Reuland TE Stanford
23 Value
5 143 St Louis Jeff Demps RB Florida
43 Value
5 144 Oakland Taylor Potts QB Texas Tech
-4 Reach
5 145 Miami Anthony Gray NT Southern Miss
-17 Reach
5 146 Indianapolis Clint Boling OG/RT Georgia
-42 Reach
5 147 Kansas City Wayne Daniels OLB34 TCU
13 Value
5 148 Philadelphia Mike Hartline QB Kentucky
-18 Reach
5 149 Tampa Bay Zane Taylor OC Utah
-55 Reach
5 150 Jacksonville Quinton Coples DE43 North Carolina
-14 Reach
5 151 Green Bay Casey Matthews ILB Oregon
13 Value
5 152 Chicago Ross Homan OLB43 Ohio State
-1 Reach
5 153 Minnesota Marcus Gilchrist CB Clemson
-58 Reach
5 154 NY Jets Preston Dial TE Alabama
10 Value
5 155 Philadelphia Zach Hurd OG Connecticut
-43 Reach
5 156 Seattle Graig Cooper RB Miami (FL)
19 Value
5 157 New Orleans Greg Romeus DE43 Pittsburgh
-22 Reach
5 158 Pittsburgh Colin Jones S TCU
-3 Reach
5 159 Atlanta Matt Bosher PK Miami (FL)
24 Value
5 160 New England Donnie Fletcher CB Boston College
-63 Reach
6 161 Carolina Stephen Good OG Oklahoma
-49 Reach
6 162 Cincinnati Vince Browne DE43 Northwestern
-11 Reach
6 163 Cleveland Mike McNeill TE Nebraska
11 Value
6 164 Seattle Mike Blanc DT43 Auburn
1 Value
6 165 Buffalo Edmund Gates WR Abilene Christian
-4 Reach
6 166 Arizona Zach Pianalto TE North Carolina
-4 Reach
6 167 Dallas Jacquizz Rodgers RB Oregon State
43 Value
6 168 Tennessee Jeremy Kerley WRslot TCU
37 Value
6 169 San Francisco Rashad Carmichael CB Virginia Tech
-63 Reach
6 170 Washington Harold Ayodele NT Emporia State
-14 Reach
6 171 Cleveland Jeremy Kellem FS Middle Tennessee
-20 Reach
6 172 Houston Nate Potter OT/OG Boise State
4 Value
6 173 San Francisco Marcus Gilbert OG/OT Florida
-9 Reach
6 174 Minnesota Cecil Shorts III WR Mount Union
-8 Reach
6 175 St Louis Greg McElroy QB Alabama
-8 Reach
6 176 Oakland Elijah Joseph OLB43 Temple
16 Value
6 177 Miami Brandon Weeden QB Oklahoma State
-18 Reach
6 178 Indianapolis DeAngelo Tyson DT43 Georgia
-13 Reach
6 179 Kansas City Nathan Enderle QB Idaho
-52 Reach
6 180 San Diego Chris White ILB Mississippi State
40 Value
6 181 Tampa Bay Brooks Reed DE43 Arizona
-4 Reach
6 182 Jacksonville Kendric Burney CB North Carolina
-76 Reach
6 183 Green Bay Greg Little WR North Carolina
-20 Reach
6 184 Chicago Alex Linnenkohl OC Oregon State
-62 Reach
6 185 NY Giants Stanley Havili FB USC
90 Value
6 186 NY Jets Mike Mohamed ILB California
40 Value
6 187 Detroit Davonte Shannon S Buffalo
-13 Reach
6 188 Baltimore James Brewer RT Indiana
1 Value
6 189 New England Lee Smith TE Marshall
9 Value
6 190 Pittsburgh Ryan Van Bergen DE34 Michigan
13 Value
6 191 Atlanta Nigel Bradham OLB43 Florida State
10 Value
6 192 Denver Alex Wujciak ILB Maryland
18 Value
7 193 Carolina Justin Boren OG Ohio State
-37 Reach
7 194 Cincinnati Mario Fannin RB Auburn
43 Value
7 195 Denver Matt Conrath DE34 Virginia
-9 Reach
7 196 Detroit Pierre Allen DE43 Nebraska
-25 Reach
7 197 Buffalo Bryant Browning OG Ohio State
-50 Reach
7 198 Arizona Scott Lutrus ILB Connecticut
23 Value
7 199 Dallas Ryan Bartholomew OC Syracuse
-68 Reach
7 200 Tennessee Deunta Williams S North Carolina
-6 Reach
7 201 San Francisco Jamie Harper RB Clemson
60 Value
7 202 Washington Jason Kelce OC Cincinnati
-78 Reach
7 203 Cleveland Michael Egnew TE Missouri
14 Value
7 204 Houston Chris Carter OLB43 Fresno State
12 Value
7 205 Seattle Tyrod Taylor QB Virginia Tech
-6 Reach
7 206 Minnesota Rob McGill OT Louisiana Tech
-32 Reach
7 207 St Louis Delone Carter RB Syracuse
40 Value
7 208 Oakland Lawrence Wilson OLB43 Connecticut
-9 Reach
7 209 Miami Greg Salas WR Hawaii
-11 Reach
7 210 Indianapolis Collin Franklin TE Iowa State
5 Value
7 211 Kansas City Chris L. Rucker CB Michigan State
-30 Reach
7 212 San Diego Ben Thayer TE Eastern Michigan
-3 Reach
7 213 Tampa Bay Will Hill FS Florida
-11 Reach
7 214 Jacksonville Keith Williams OG Nebraska
-123 Reach
7 215 Green Bay James Rodgers WRslot Oregon State
18 Value
7 216 Chicago Kheeston Randall DT43 Texas
-12 Reach
7 217 NY Giants Alex Henery PK Nebraska
27 Value
7 218 NY Jets Derek Wolfe DE34 Cincinnati
-19 Reach
7 219 Philadelphia Mario Butler CB Georgia Tech
-57 Reach
7 220 Baltimore Eddie Jones OLB34 Texas
18 Value
7 221 New Orleans Tydreke Powell DT43 North Carolina
-23 Reach
7 222 Pittsburgh Chris Culliver CB/S Idaho
-48 Reach
7 223 Atlanta Chris Galippo LB USC
15 Value
7 224 New England Chase Beeler OC Stanford
-61 Reach

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Mocking The Draft Fitting OL with teams

 

Most people know which teams play a 4-3 and which teams play a 3-4, which greatly affects which players they draft.  Quarterbacks get drafted on throwing ability and cornerbacks get drafted on coverage ability, and while we may disagree on exact rankings for most players there is general consensus on who is in the Top 5, Top 10, etc.  But some teams definitely have their own preferences for offensive linemen based upon coaching schemes or personnel philosophies.  And just because a team is using a zone-blocking system, for instance, does not mean they are only interested in smaller offensive linemen.  So what I am trying to do here is to identify teams that have displayed a preference for smaller or larger offensive linemen, based upon current personnel, coaches, recent draft history, and my own knowledge.  Hopefully this will aid everyone else when working on their own mock drafts.  This is intended to function as a group post.  So if anyone thinks there should be additions or subtractions to this list, let me know, and if there is consensus I will edit the list.

This list is not a rule.  Some positions, left tackle most notably, vary from this list because pass protection ability gets ranked above all.  But I think that if you approached the fans of KC and Miami in the beginning of the 3rd round last year and told them they would be drafting a guard named John (or Jon), 90% of them would know that KC was taking Asamoah and Miami was taking Jerry.

All teams are not listed because I do not think all teams have a preference.  In fact, I am surprised by how many teams I listed here.  Also, the list is organized by who a team is unlikely to draft.  A team that likes large or small OL probably often drafts averaged-sized guys.  They do not necessarily pick the largest or smallest players, but they are less likely to pick someone far outside their comfort zone. 

Teams that favor bigger players (less likely to draft Rodney Hudson, Jason Pinkston, Nate Potter):

Baltimore

Cincinnati

Dallas

Miami

New Orleans

New York Giants

New York Jets

Philadelphia

Pittsburgh

San Diego

San Francisco

 

Teams that favor smaller players (less likely to draft Marcus Cannon, Ben Ijalana, Matt Reynolds):

Buffalo

Denver???

Houston

Indianapolis

Kansas City

New England

Seattle

Tennessee

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Big Blue View Grading the Coordinators



I wanted to look at the coaches' performance from a more rational standpoint.  I broke up the coordinators' grades into their various duties.  I did not try to give an overall grade.  Grades are A, B, C, or F.  Be warned, you will have to read some nice comments about Gilbride below.  I added in special teams, even though the duties are more task-based  than offense and defense because the system is more static from game to game.  And I just wanted to vent at Quinn.

  

Offensive Coordinator Kevin Gilbride:

 Developing an Offensive System-

The Giants run a fairly simple offensive system. Few gimmick plays. Basic run and pass formations, with the exception of increased use of a T as a blocking TE. But a lot of this is Coughlin's influence. People forget Gilbride once ran a run-and-shoot offense. Coughlin likes conservative. The upside of the current offense is that the players have learned it fairly quickly and adapt to personnel changes. The downside is the common complaints that we are predictable and boring, and we do not use all of our assets.

 Grade: B

 

Game Planning-

To most of us seems like the Giants do not do any specific game planning. They look the same every week. Or they are inconsistent in their planning. We took advantage of Houston's poor secondary. But we did not take advantage of Detroit's poor secondary. Our idea of testing the CBs was WR screens. Yet when you look at the pass plays, there were few throws that could have generated tipped balls in the middle of the field. So perhaps the game plan was to limit opportunities for turnovers. Look what happened in Dallas when we went back to middle-of-the-field passes.  And after the Indy debacle, the next game we were helping out the tackles with chips on the DEs. So there are little tweaks here and there.

 Grade: B

 

In-Game Adjustments-

It is difficult to tell what is Eli and what is Gilbride. For the most part they stick with their game plan. They are more willing this year to stick with the passing game when it is working. And the running game is working better late than early. At a more detailed level, there was no help for Diehl and MacKenzie throughout the Indy game. And there does not seem to be a lot of variety in the passing game inside a single game. Although they do notice where the safeties are playing

 Grade: Incomplete (see first sentence)

 

Developing Personnel/Education-

A LG became a LT. Our starting TE was a converted basketball player in college. The backup TE became a fullback. The other backup TE played mostly LB at college. A T became the backup C. If there is one area where the offensive coaching staff has excelled, it is teaching players their roles and turning them into solid starters.

 Grade: A

 

Using the Personnel-

This team melds players into the system, and does not develop the system around the players. While this is probably the best idea for offensive consistency, the dominance of the system fails to take into account the abilities of the players, even to the point of keeping out plays that may work with one player only. This is most often the case cited with Beckum. The guy has great hands and good speed, but we use him as a conventional TE. No plays designed to take advantage of the speed mismatch with LBs. Instead, in Dallas they lined him up at WR, giving him DB coverage. Bradshaw has Westbrook-like elusiveness, yet we only throw him the ball on screens. People couldn't wait to see Barden run a fade route in the end zone after we drafted him. We have not seen it yet. Boss is underutilized, as was Shockey before him.

 Grade: C

  

Defensive Coordinator Perry Fewell:

 Developing a Defensive System-

We were worried about bringing in a zone guy after the Lewis fiasco. But Fewell has adapted his system to the players' strengths. The corners are playing a lot of full or limited man-to-man coverage. The three-safety system has worked well in several games. It hides our weakness at SLB. The players have caught on to the new system very quickly. There have been few blown coverages or guys out of place, and never deep. The "big play" concerns have disappeared. Fewell also kept the pass rush system of moving Tuck or Kiwi inside on passing downs.

 Grade: A

 

Game Planning-

There are slightly different looks from the defense depending on the opponent, especially regarding 3rd safety or SLB play. It is hard to tell because we have played so many teams featuring a passing offense that heavily involves the TE. While most here were unhappy with the Indy result, I give him credit for trying something new. Conventional defenses do not work against Peyton.

 Grade: A

 

In-Game Adjustments-

And here is where the Indy game fell apart. You try something, it does not work, you have to adjust. It took them a long time to adjust against Indy. At the end of the Dallas game, we were blitzing more and more, and it was working less and less. Why all-out blitz on 4th and 1? It's likely going to be too quick of a play to matter. And we missed Witten breaking off the line twice. Don't want to see it next game. No other team has really forced adjustments to be made. A lot of the points we have given up have been on a short field.

 Grade: C

 

Developing Personnel/Education-

It's not really possible to grade this at this stage. JPP looks good, starting to show some skills. Goff has played well, but not sure who gets the credit. The secondary has learned their roles well. The safety system has gone off seamlessly, probably helps that the guy who moves around most (Grant) is a veteran.

 Grade: Incomplete

 

Using the Personnel-

Extra DEs are still getting onto the field in obvious passing downs. Tolly still gets some playing time. Rolle is being used a nickel/dime corner, since he is a better corner than Bruce Johnson. But the DT rotation seems to have disappeared. One of the things you notice at the game is how few substitutions they make. Now with Kiwi out, on passing downs, Tuck is always the DT, JPP the LDE. No different looks. No different personnel. And Cofield often the true DT in this group - the guy gets no rest.

 Grade: B

   

Special Teams Coordinator Tom Quinn:

 Punt Returns-

There is no blocking. None. Every game you see, there is an obvious difference between us and the other team.

 Grade: F

 

Kickoff Returns-

An improvement over punts - there is some blocking. But no holes. Reynaud seems unable to create anything by himself.

 Grade: C

 

Punt Coverage-

There has been no consistency from the punter. But there is little coverage on good punts. You watch the Dez Bryant return, he scores on that play if it is one-hand touch with the Giants holding yardsticks. Easily.

 Grade: F

 

Kickoff Coverage-

The one unit that has made a few plays. Sometimes good, sometimes bad. But improving.

 Grade: C

 

Onside Kicks-

What we learned last week is that there are no backups for the "hands" team. And no thought as to who should be out there and where they should line up. Wilkinson (and now Sintim) is lined up as the closest guy to the ball on one side. Whether I use geometry or common sense, it seems clear that this guy has one of the best chances to get the ball. And we put a linebacker there. And then his inexperienced sub. And the ball promptly glances off of his shin. I don't know how Sintim is getting credit for his play here. You either get low and get the ball, or jump over it. NEVER let it bounce off you towards the other team.

 Grade: F

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Mocking The Draft 2011 mock - 2 rounds

I'm feeding my addiction by mocking this early.  I really need a healthier habit like drinking.  Did not want to spend a lot of time on draft order.  Borrowed Dan's top 10 (thanks), for the rest I used point differential to break record ties.  Moved up the division champs as recognized by the NFL standings.  Best NFC team got Super Bowl credit.



1st Round:

1. CAR - Prince Amakamura, CB, Nebraska
Because of the merchandising opportunities with a tandem of Prince and Captain.

2. BUF - Andrew Luck, QB, Stanford
This QB from Stanford is better than the last one. He's young, expect a learning period.

3. SF - Patrick Peterson, CB, LSU
Not sold on replacing Smith, and I like Carr. Patience needed. Peterson is the best player left.

4. DET - Robert Quinn, DE, UNC
VandenBosch can teach his replacement.

5. CLE - Julio Jones, WR, Alabama
Combination of size, speed, and consistent production make him the #1 WR.

6. DAL - Marcell Dareus, DE, Alabama
An upgrade at DE and no need picks worth this slot.

7. SD - A.J. Green, WR, Georgia
I did not plan to give them a WR, but then I did not expect them to be picking this low.

8. NE from OAK - Cameron Heyward, DE, Ohio State
Seymour is missed.

9. DEN - Allen Bailey, DE, Miami
I thought the front 3 needed to be addressed in the draft last year.

10. CIN - Ryan Mallett, QB, Arkansas
A tough pick. I can see Clayborn or Baldwin here as well. A good fit for Mallett as he would have time to develop.

11. MIN - Brandon Harris, CB, Miami
Need a healthy CB. Cook could always be pushed to FS if Winfield and Griffin stick around awhile.

12. STL - Mark Ingram, RB, Alabama
Spags knows the value of a multi-back system, and Jackson has not played 16 games in many years.

13. WAS - Adrian Clayborn, DE, Iowa
A team with a lot of needs, they pick the best player available.

14. GB - Akeem Ayers, OLB, UCLA
An athlete to complement Matthews Jr. I don't like him, but I'll defer to others for now. Also thinking Baldwin, Driver cannot play forever.

15. JAC - Jake Locker, QB, Washington
Fans are tiring of Garrard, and he is a better value than any DB here.

16. TB - Da'Quan Bowers, DE, Clemson
Pass rush needed. Needs to have a productive season to keep this high spot

17. MIA - Ryan Williams, RB, Virginia Tech
Ronnie and/or Ricky could be gone in FA. Although this is high for Williams, maybe a safety belongs here.  Or O'Dowd.

18. SEA - Janoris Jenkins, CB, Florida
Could also be a DE for Seattle, but I think none justify this slot.

19. TEN - Travis Lewis, LB, Oklahoma
A great player to fill Bulluck's shoes.

20. BAL - Deunta Williams, S, North Carolina
Ed Reed has talked retirement, and there is nothing special at SS.

21. ARI - Derek Sherrod, LT, Mississippi State
No QB worth the pick here.

22. KC - Jonathan Baldwin, WR, Pittsburgh
A great value here and a big need.

23. HOU - Ras-I Dowling, CB/FS, Virginia
An obvious need addressed.

24. CHI - Gabe Carimi, RT, Wisconsin
They need a solid guy to run and pass block, their system requires a good RT.

25. NYG - Aaron Williams, CB, Texas
Replaces their existing Texas CB named Aaron who has disappointed.

26. NO - Bruce Carter, LB, North Carolina
Also could use a DE, but this is the better pick here.

27. ATL - Michael Floyd, WR, Notre Dame
A good #2 WR has been missing for some time.

28. IND - Michael Pouncey, G/C, Florida
The best lineman on the board, and versatile.

29. NE - Kristopher O'Dowd, G/C, USC
Replaces Mankins.

30. PIT - Cameron Jordan, DE, California
The front 3 is aging.

31. PHI - Marvin Austin, DT, North Carolina
Improves the DT rotation and has upside. Don't want to reach for OL.


32. NYJ - Jared Crick, DE, Nebraska
Ellis is aging and the other DEs are nothing special.

 

2nd Round:

 

1. NE from CAR - DeMarco Murray, RB, Oklahoma
Carolina's trade looks bad now. A RB with experience in a similar offense.

2. BUF - Von Miller, OLB, Texas A&M
Maybin looks like a bust, they need a pass rush.

3. SF - Christian Ponder, QB, Florida State
I'd still give Smith a chance, but I'm, hedging my bets. Big difference between here and #3 overall sitting on the bench.

4. DET - Greg Jones, MLB/LB
All other things being equal, you pick the local guy.

5. CLE - Jeremy Beal, OLB, Oklahoma
Tempted to go Rudolph here.

6. DAL - DeAndre McDaniel, S, Clemson
Do Dallas fans still think that safety is not a problem?

7. SD - Curtis Brown, CB, Texas
No depth at CB after trading Cromartie.

8. OAK - Blaine Gabbert, QB, Missouri
Al falls in love with the arm strength and athleticism.

9. DEN - Kyle Rudolph, TE, Notre Dame
Great value here.

10. CIN - Rahim Moore, FS, UCLA
One of my easiest picks, fits need and slot.

11. MIN - Jerrell Powe, DT, Mississippi
Pat Williams retiring, huge hole to fill.

12. STL - Nick Fairley, DT, Auburn
Robbins is not young, and more inside rush could help Long.

13. WAS - Rodney Hudson, G, Florida State
A coach that does not mind small linemen, and a player everybody raves about.

14. GB - Jimmy Smith, CB, Colorado
Youth needed at the position.

15. JAC - Stefen Wisniewski, C, Penn State
No appropriate DBs here again.

16. TB - Joseph Barksdale T, LSU
Inconsistent opinions on this guy. TB needs line help and the tackles are approaching UFA status. Barksdale could be tried on either side.

17. DEN from MIA - Sione Fua, NT, Stanford
A guy rising up the boards, Williams does not have much left.

18. SEA - Greg Romeus, DE, Pittsburgh
Clemons may be having a career year, but you have to wonder why he could not stick anywhere else. Also, Lawyer Milloy is 2nd on the team in sacks.

19. TEN - Ben Ijalana, G, Villanova
Johnson is not getting the holes he once had.

20. BAL - Ryan Broyles, WR, Oklahoma
Some of the current WRs may be rentals and there is age at the position.

21. ARI - Quan Sturdivant, ILB, North Carolina
Another draft where ILBs fall, no QB worth the pick here again

22. KC - Mark Herzlich, OLB, Boston College
An all-around player to soon replace Vrabel.

23. HOU - Jurell Casey, DT, USC
No DBs fit this slot, and Casey is a value pick here

24. CHI - Justin Boren, G, Ohio State
The OL still needs help.

25. NYG - Nate Solder, T, Colorado
Competition for Beatty or a true tackle backup.

26. NO - Ryan Kerrigan, DE, Purdue
Measurable be damned, this guy keeps producing.

27. ATL - Sam Acho, DE, Texas
Future competition for Sidbury, but this might be too high for him.

28. IND - Anthony Constanzo, T, Boston College
I have him lower than most because I think he needs to get stronger.

29. NE - Matt Reynolds, T, BYU
Pats will not have to resign Light.

30. PIT - James Brewer, RT, Indiana
Flozell is a temp.

31. PHI - Marcus Cannon, G, TCU
A big guy like Philly loves.

32. NYJ - Ronald Johnson, WR, USC
Can't see both Edwards and Holmes coming back.

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Big Blue View The Optimist Sees



I'm actually in a good mood today.  Because I liked a lot of what I saw in the last game.  Since most of you seem to have missed it, let me tell you what I saw:

 

Bradshaw with 6 yards per carry.

Beckum showing good speed running with the ball.  And anyone notice how he chipped the left end before running the route?  Exactly what we all wanted to see the week before.  The Giants adapted.

Only two sacks allowed, one by a blitzing linebacker, to a team that had nine in the first two games.

Cofield and Tuck disrupting play after play.

The whole team shutting down one of the best running attacks in the league until garbage time.

No pass plays against them for more than 20 yards.  No blown safety coverages.

A passing game that can find numerous targets.  Even Steve Smith was a deep threat.

Koets playing ably, no missed blocks, just that false start, even on the safety tried to block two people when he realized an assignment was missed.

Goff continues to give up no YAC when covering TEs and RBs on pass routes.

Terrell Thomas may need to work on coverage but he cannot be beat in run support.

JPP making a play.  Playing at ILB was intriguing, can you imagine trying to throw over his head if he drops back into coverage?

 

I see those things and think, gee, if we could just give up the stupid stuff, we could be a really hard team to beat.  1-2 means nothing.

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Mocking The Draft mathematical analysis of draft success



I found the research paper linked below thanks to an article in my local paper.  Two college professors, trying to measure decision-making success, chose the NFL draft for their study.  They update their research paper every year with every draft.

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Mocking The Draft *ct17 1-round mock for contest*


A few updates made from my last 7-rounder:



1ST ROUND:
 
1. St. Louis Rams - Sam Bradford, QB, Oklahoma
 
2. Detroit Lions - Ndamukong Suh, DT, Nebraska
 
3. Tampa Bay Buccaneers - Gerald McCoy, DT, Oklahoma
 
4. Washington Redskins - Russell Okung, T, Oklahoma State
 
5. Kansas City Chiefs - Eric Berry, S, Tennessee
 
6. Seattle Seahawks - Derrick Morgan, DE, Georgia Tech
 
7. Cleveland Browns - Earl Thomas, S, Texas 
 
8. Oakland Raiders - Bruce Campbell, T, Maryland
 
9. Buffalo Bills - James Clausen, QB, Notre Dame

10. Jacksonville Jaguars -  Rolando McClain, MLB, Alabama   


11. Denver Broncos -  Sean Weatherspoon, ILB, Missouri 
 
12. Miami Dolphins -  Jason Pierre-Paul, OLB, South Florida 
 
13. San Francisco 49ers  - C.J. Spiller, RB, Clemson
 
14. Seattle Seahawks - Trent Williams, T, Oklahoma
 
15. New York Giants - Bryan Bulaga, T, Iowa
 
16. Tennessee Titans - Joseph Haden, CB, Florida 
 
17. San Francisco 49ers - Brandon Graham, OLB, Michigan 
 
18. Pittsburgh Steelers - Mike Iupati, G, Idaho
 
19. Atlanta Falcons - Everson Griffen, DE, USC
 
20. Houston Texans - Dan Williams, DT, Tennessee 
 
21. Cincinnati Bengals - Taylor Mays, S, USC 
 
22. New England Patriots - Jared Odrick, DE, Penn State
 
23. Green Bay Packers - Jerry Hughes, OLB, TCU
 
24. Philadelphia Eagles - Kyle Wilson, CB, Boise State 
 
25. Baltimore Ravens - Jermaine Gresham, TE, Oklahoma
 
26. Arizona Cardinals - Anthony Davis, T, Rutgers 
 
27. Dallas Cowboys - Dez Bryant, WR, Oklahoma State 
 
28. San Diego Chargers - Terrence Cody, NT, Alabama
 
29. New York Jets - Sergio Kindle, OLB, Texas
 
30. Minnesota Vikings -Devin McCourty, CB, Rutgers
 
31. Indianapolis Colts - Charles Brown, T, USC
 
32. New Orleans Saints - Carlos Dunlap, DE, Florida

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Big Blue View My 7-round Giants & NFC East mock


I just finished my last 7-round mock in Excel, and I don't have the time to reformat it for posting here.  But here are my Giants picks with explanations, and the other NFC East picks after:

 

1.  Bryan Bulaga, T, Iowa - I think McClain, Weatherspoon, Morgan, Thomas, and Spiller are gone.  It came down to Dan Williams, Price, Bulaga, or Anthony Davis.  I think the Giants expect more from Canty this year, while McKenzie is in all likelihood in his last year with his expensive contract expiring.  Bulaga may not be his equal as a run blocker, but he is good and he will shut off the pass rush from the right side.

 

2.  Brian Price, DT, UCLA - He is starting to fall in many mocks, for no apparent reason except for a failure to get his name in the news.   But he had only one big year in college, and his testing numbers don't shine.  Detroit and Tampa get their DTs in the 1st, and I think Oakland goes with the flashier Atkins.  No one else in the early 2nd is looking at DTs.  He may not be at the top of the Giants need board, but he should be at the top of their value board here, just like Sintim last year.  Price can defend the run and pressure the QB.

 

3.  Pat Angerer, MLB, Iowa - Tackling machine, good athlete, 5 picks as a junior.  I think Jacksonville takes McClain in the first, and Oakland grabs Chaney in the early 3rd.  Yes, for the first three rounds we are taking Oakland's second choices.

 

4.  Akwasi Owusu-Ansah, DB/KR, Indiana U. of Pennsylvania - People are picking him high because of his Pro Day 40, but he lacks positional skills and his combine 40 was slower, so I think he falls.  I am not picking him here as a CB or S, I think he will be no better than 4th on the depth chart at either.  I have him here for special teams.  Not only returning kicks, but also in kick coverage.  He has straight line speed and good strength.  I think he will make a great gunner, one of the most important and overlooked needs for the Giants.

 

5.  Eric Olsen, C, Notre Dame - Koets and Seubert are not real centers.  We need a more experienced backup, and although Olsen is a converted guard, he at least has a full season at the position under his belt.  O'Hara is one of our older players, and I think Olsen projects to be a similar type player.

 

6.  Kyle McCarthy, S, Notre Dame - Played strong safety in college, defensive captain (leadership), good tackler, good agility.  Caught my eye at the combine.  Will contribute on special teams, fight Johnson for a safety spot, or try to hold on to a spot until Grant is gone.

 

7.  Keenan Clayton, LB, Oklahoma - A good-sized safety that Oklahoma converted to a weakside linebacker two years ago.  Fast, addresses the defensive speed issue.  Will help on special teams.

 

I did not pick a RB.  None called out to me in the right slots, and the Giants already have 5 on their roster.  I think management is more confident than the fans.  I thought about a blocking TE late, but I think we can get one as an undrafted free agent.  Some may be disappointed with no Zoltan, but it looks like the Australian guy will be challenging Feagles.  Also could have gone kicker, but I figure that will also be addressed outside the draft.  But I did consider special teams contributions when making my picks.  Our coverage teams need work, and I think that will be how a lot of guys make the roster this year.

 

Washington:

1.  Russell Okung, T, Oklahoma State

4.  Major Wright, S, Florida

5.  Thaddeus Gibson, OLB, Ohio State

7.  Stephen Williams, WR, Toledo

 

Dallas:

1.  Dez Bryant, WR, Oklahoma State

2.  Vladimir Ducasse, G, UMass

3.  Jared Veldheer, T, Hillsdale

4.  Brian Jackson, S, Oklahoma

6.  David Pender, CB, Purdue

7.  Michael Greco, S, South Florida

 

Philadelphia:

1.  Kyle Wilson, CB, Boise State

2.  Daryl Washington, LB, TCU

2.  John Jerry, G, Mississippi

3.  Darrell Stuckey, S, Kansas

3.  Roddrick Muckelroy, LB, Texas

4.  Trevard Lindley, CB, Kentucky

4.  Colt McCoy, QB, Texas

5.  Danario Alexander, WR, Missouri

6.  Brandon Lang, DE, Troy

6.  Nate Collins, DT, Virginia

7.  Shawnbrey McNeal, RB, SMU

7.  Sherrick McManis, CB, Northwestern

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Mocking The Draft 7-round mock with comps

I apologize ahead of time for this being slightly boring.  I had an interesting mock going until free agency hit.  Then everyone fell into the usual places.  I really wanted to not give Haden to Cleveland and Brown to Indy among others, but the picks fell that way.  Where appropriate, I distinguished between left tackles/right tackles, strong safeties/free safeties, etc. because I think that is important.  Mostly left this out for backups.  Provided a few explanations, but wanted to keep this as short as possible.

This was insanity.  I'm never doing 7 rounds again.

 

1ST ROUND:
 
1. St. Louis Rams - Sam Bradford, QB, Oklahoma
 
2. Detroit Lions - Ndamukong Suh, DT, Nebraska
 
3. Tampa Bay Buccaneers - Gerald McCoy, DT, Oklahoma
 
4. Washington Redskins - Russell Okung, LT, Oklahoma State
 
5. Kansas City Chiefs - Eric Berry, S, Tennessee
 
6. Seattle Seahawks - Derrick Morgan, RDE, Georgia Tech
 
7. Cleveland Browns - Joseph Haden, CB, Florida
 
8. Oakland Raiders - Bruce Campbell, LT, Maryland
 
9. Buffalo Bills - James Clausen, QB, Notre Dame
 
10. Denver Broncos - Rolando McClain, ILB, Alabama
 
11. Jacksonville Jaguars - Earl Thomas, FS, Texas
 
12. Miami Dolphins - Dan Williams, NT, Tennessee
 
13. San Francisco 49ers  - C.J. Spiller, RB, Clemson
 
14. Seattle Seahawks - Trent Williams, LT, Oklahoma
 
15. New York Giants - Bryan Bulaga, RT, Iowa
 
16. Tennessee Titans - Jason Pierre-Paul, LDE/RDE, South Florida
 
17. San Francisco 49ers - Brandon Graham, OLB, Michigan
BPA - Neither Lawson or Haralson are all-pros.
 
18. Pittsburgh Steelers - Mike Iupati, G, Idaho
 
19. Atlanta Falcons - Everson Griffen, LDE, USC
 
20. Houston Texans - Brian Price, DT, UCLA
 
21. Cincinnati Bengals - Taylor Mays, FS, USC
A good fit for Mays - a good defense with a serviceable FS already in place.
 
22. New England Patriots - Jared Odrick, DE, Penn State
 
23. Green Bay Packers - Jerry Hughes, OLB, TCU
 
24. Philadelphia Eagles - Kyle Wilson, CB, Boise State
Sheldon Brown did not learn from Lito Sheppard's case.
 
25. Baltimore Ravens - Sean Weatherspoon, ILB, Missouri
The future captain of the defense when Ray Lewis is done.
 
26. Arizona Cardinals - Anthony Davis, LT, Rutgers
The Ravens stole their guy.  No ILB or OLB worth the pick here, not with Spikes' 40 time.
 
27. Dallas Cowboys - Dez Bryant, WR, Oklahoma State
Dallas is the most likely team to go pure BPA in the 1st round.
 
28. San Diego Chargers - Terrence Cody, NT, Alabama
 
29. New York Jets -Golden Tate, WR, Notre Dame
 
30. Minnesota Vikings -Devin McCourty, CB, Rutgers
 
31. Indianapolis Colts - Charles Brown, LT, USC
 
32. New Orleans Saints - Carlos Dunlap, LDE, Florida
 
 

2ND ROUND


1. STL - Washington, WLB, TCU
 
2. DET - Ghee, CB, Wake Forest
 
3. TB - Benn, WR, Illinois
 
4. KC -Saffold, RT, Indiana
 
5. WAS - Norwood, OLB, South Carolina
Switching to the 3-4 makes no sense for this team.  Carter is not going to transition well to OLB at his age.
 
6. CLE - Burnett, FS, Georgia Tech
 
7. OAK - Atkins, DT, Georgia
 
8. SD from SEA - Matthews, RB, Fresno State
 
9. BUF - Thomas, NT, North Carolina
 
10. TB from CHI - Franks, CB, Oklahoma
 
11. MIA - Gresham, TE, Oklahoma
Parcells loves talented tight ends - in an early mock I had Gresham going to Miami in the 1st.
 
12. NE from JAC- Thomas, WR, Georgia Tech
 
13. DEN - Pouncey, C, Florida
 
14. NYG - Houston, DT, Texas
 
15. NE from TEN - Sapp, OLB, Clemson
 
16. CAR - LaFell, WR, LSU
 
17. SF - Jones, FS, LSU
 
18. KC from ATL - Kindle, OLB, Texas
 
19. HOU - Cox, CB, Oklahoma State
 
20. PIT - Jackson, CB, Alabama
 
21. NE - Gronkowski, TE, Arizona
 
22. CIN - Neal, DT, Purdue
 
23. PHI - Jerry, G, Mississippi
 
24. GB - Cook, CB, Virginia
 
25. BAL - Carrington, DE, Arkansas State
 
26. ARI - Worilds, OLB, Virginia Tech
 
27. DAL - Ducasse, G/RT, Massachusetts
 
28. SEA from SD - Williams, WR, USC
 
29. NYJ - Alualu, DE, California
 
30. MIN - Jones, FS, Georgia
 
31. IND - Petrus, G, Arkansas
 
32. NO - Bowman, SLB, Penn State
 
 
3RD ROUND
 
1. STL - McCluster, RB/WR, Mississippi
 
2. DET - Best, RB, California
 
3. TB - Washington, RT, Abilene Christian
Replaces Youngblood now but could play LT when Penn reaches UFA if he is not extended.
 
4. KC - Ford, WR, Clemson
 
5. OAK  - Chaney, MLB/LB, Mississippi State
 
6. PHI from SEA - Stuckey, SS, Kansas
 
7. CLE - Misi, OLB, Utah
 
8. BUF - Veldheer, LT, Hillsdale
Buffalo would prefer a LT ready to start, but the draft did not fall that way once they took Clausen.
 
9. MIA - Gibson, OLB, Ohio State
 
10. CHI - Walton, C/G, Baylor
 
11. JAC - Angerer, MLB, Iowa
 
12. NYG - Tate, RB, Auburn
I dislike making this pick.  But their need picks are reaches here.
 
13. TEN - Robinson, CB, Florida State
 
14. CAR - Gilyard, WR, Cincinnati
Two WRs in a row?  It's that much of a need.
 
15. SF - Calloway, RT, Iowa
 
16. DEN - Mitchell, WR, South Florida
 
17. HOU - Hardesty, RB, Tennessee
 
18. PIT - Jones, DE, Syracuse
 
19. ATL - Pitta, TE, BYU
 
20. CIN - Wilson, LDE, East Carolina
 
21. CLE from various - LeFevour, QB, Central Michigan
 
22. GB - Fox, LT, Miami
 
23. PHI - Muckelroy, SLB, Texas
 
24. ARI from BAL - Spikes, ILB, Florida
 
25. ARI - Lindley, CB, Kentucky
People hate this guy because he had a bad Senior Bowl.  But there is a reason he was once a high 2nd.
 
26. DAL - Wright, FS, Florida
 
27. SD - Lee, ILB, Penn State
Not many fans' priority, but the combine showed he is healthy, and he is a good value here.
 
28. CLE from NYJ - Graham, TE, Miami
 
29. MIN - Joseph, DT, East Carolina
 
30. IND - Arenas, CB/KR, Alabama
 
31. NO - Watson, WLB, Florida State
 
32. CIN - Edds, SLB, Iowa
This will allow Maualauga to move to the middle.
 
33. TEN - Ward, SS/FS, Oregon
 
34. ATL - Riley, WLB, LSU
 
 
4TH ROUND
 
1. STL - Hernandez, TE, Florida
 
2. DET - Newhouse, G, TCU
 
3. TB - Decker, WR, Minnesota
 
4. KC - Troup, NT, Central Florida
 
5. WAS - Johnson, FS, Utah
Landry is moved to SS where he belongs.
 
6. SEA - Asante, SS, Nebraska
 
7. CLE - Gerhart, RB, Stanford
 
8. OAK - Jefferson, CB, Fresno State
 
9. BUF - Williams, WR, Tulane 
 
10. JAC - Tebow, QB, Florida
Is this pick less offensive or humorous in the 4th?  They really do need a backup QB.
 
11. CHI - Coleman, FS, Ohio State
 
12. MIA - Lewis, FS, Vanderbilt
 
13. TEN - Brown, QB, West Virginia
Kerry Collins will not be playing much longer.
 
14. CAR - Snead, QB, Mississippi
 
15. SF - Shipley, WR, Texas 
 
16. DEN - Asamoah, G, Illinois 
 
17. NYG - Butler, MLB, Washington
 
18. PIT - Ross, NT, East Carolina
How does East Carolina have this many good players?

19. ATL - Roberts, WR, Citadel
 
20. HOU - Jackson, FS, Oklahoma
 
21. NE - Dwyer, RB, Georgia Tech 
 
22. CIN - Lauvao, G, Arizona State
 
23. PHI - Alexander, WR, Missouri 
 
24. GB - Dixon, RB, Mississippi State  
 
25. ARI from BAL - Dickerson, TE/WR, Pittsburgh 
 
26. NYJ from ARI - Spievey, CB, Iowa
 
27. DAL - Black, G/RT, LSU
He has looked bad at tackle, but should make a good guard.
 
28. SD - Warren, CB, Michigan
 
29. SEA from var. - McKnight, RB, USC
 
30. MIN - Beadles, G, Utah
 
31. IND - Cunningham, DE, Florida
 
32. NO - McCoy, QB, Texas
 
33. CIN - Murphy, CB, South Florida
 
 
5TH ROUND
 
1. STL - Lane, LDE, Murray State
 
2. DET - Wang, T, Virginia Tech
He could be the eventual Backus replacement.  What would we argue about then?
 
3. CLE from TB - Price, WR, Ohio
 
4. WAS - Skelton, QB, Fordham 
 
5. KC - Dickson, TE, Oregon
 
6. CLE - Wootton, DE, Northwestern
 
7. OAK - Owens, DT, Georgia
5 for 5 workout warriors for Al, yet no big reaches.
 
8. SEA - Johnson, G, Alabama
 
9. BUF - Moats, OLB, James Madison 
 
10. CHI - Young, RT, Notre Dame
 
11. KC from MIA - Tennant, C, Boston College 
 
12. JAC - Te'o-Nesheim, DE, Washington
 
13. KC from CAR - Owusu-Ansari, DB/KR, Indiana U. of Pennsylvania
As a kick returner his size and speed are dangerous.  Would make a good gunner also.

 
14. SF - Render, G, Virginia Tech
 
15. CLE from var. - Rolle, SS, Florida State/Oxford
 
16. NYG - Chancellor, SS, Virginia Tech
 
17. TEN - Brown, WR/KR, Central Michigan
 
18. ATL - Priest, CB, TCU
 
19. HOU - Sharpton, MLB, Miami
An option in case Ryans goes UFA in the future.
 
20. PIT - Blount, RB, Oregon
 
21. CIN - Moeaki, TE, Oregon 
 
22. TB from NE - Hardy, DE, Tennessee 
 
23. GB - Pike, QB, Cincinnati
 
24. STL from PHI - Cooper, WR, Florida
 
25. BAL - Geathers, DE, South Carolina 
 
26. BAL from ARI - McCoy, TE, USC 
 
27. OAK from var. - Edwards, QB/WR, Appalachian State
The wildcat comes to Oakland.  Is anyone surprised?

28. SD - White, WR, Michigan State 
 
29. CLE from NYJ - Byers, G, USC
 
30. MIN - Starks, RB, Buffalo
 
31. IND - Curran, LB, Georgia 
 
32. NYJ from var. - Tepper, RT, California
 
33. PIT - Olsen, C, Notre Dame
 
34. ATL - Carter, G/T, Texas Tech
 
35. PIT - Tracy, OLB, William & Mary
 
36. MIN - Harbor, TE, Missouri State
 
37. SD - McFadden, CB, Auburn
 
38. GB - Holliday, WR/KR, LSU
 
 
6TH ROUND
 
1. STL - Verner, CB, UCLA
 
2. ATL from DET - Estes, C, Hawaii
 
3. PHI from TB - Smith, DT, Louisiana Tech
 
4. MIA from KC - Easley, WR, Connecticut
 
5. MIA from WAS - Johnson, ILB, Kentucky
 
6. CAR from OAK - Pender, CB, Purdue
 
7. SEA - Mitchell, DT, Arizona
 
8. CLE - Selvie, OLB, South Florida  
 
9. BUF - Long, WR, Louisville
 
10. MIA - Bell, RB, Wayne State
 
11. JAC - Matthews, C, Texas A & M
 
12. CHI - McCarthy, SS, Notre Dame
 
13. SF - Stoudamire, CB, Western Illinois
 
14. DEN - Peters, DE, Kentucky
 
15. NYG - Banks, WR/KR, Kansas State
 
16. TEN - Larsen, C, North Carolina State
 
17. CLE from CAR - Oghobaase, DE, Duke
 
18. HOU - Briscoe, WR, Kansas
 
19. PIT - Thomas, CB, USC
 
20. ATL - Sanders, WR, SMU
 
21. NE - Hull, ILB, Penn State
 
22. CIN - Hiller, QB, Western Michigan
 
23. BUF from PHI - Capers, LT, West Virginia
Hedging their bets in case Veldheer does not work out as a LT, although Capers is an even longer-range project. 

24. GB - Eskridge, S, East Carolina
 
25. BAL - Williams, WR, Arizona State
 
26. ARI - Crompton, QB, Tennessee
 
27. DAL - Moore, CB, Kansas State
 
28. HOU from SD - Conner, WLB, Clemson
 
29. NYJ - Schofield, OLB, Wisconsin
If Gholston disappoints this year, here is his replacement 

30. MIN - Fitzgerald, LDE, Kansas State
 
31. PHI from IND - Robinson, QB, Oklahoma State
Expecting McNabb and Vick to be gone next year.

32. NO - Witten, RDE, Connecticut
 
33. CAR - Young, DE, North Carolina State
 
34. JAC - Ajirotutu, WR, Fresno State
 
35. CAR - Scott, G, Tennessee
 
36. NE - Sheffield, OLB, Troy
 
37. SF - Barnes, WR, Bowling Green
 
38. TEN - Fletcher, LDE, Wyoming
 
 
7TH ROUND
 
1. STL - Triplett, SLB, Minnesota
 
2. BUF from DET - Brown, RB, Oklahoma
 
3. TB - Coleman, SS, LSU
 
4. WAS - Hodge, WR, Mississippi
Following last year's deep WR class, and a decent class this year, talent falls.

5. MIA from KC - Sharpe, OLB, Texas Tech
 
6. SEA - Amaya, FS, Nevada
 
7. DET from CLE - Dillard, MLB/LB, Nebraska
 
8. OAK - Clayton, WLB, Oklahoma
 
9. BUF - Newton, CB, Buffalo
 
10. TB from JAC - Collins, DT, Virginia
 
11. CHI - Hall, QB, BYU
 
12. MIA - Lewis, FS, Mississippi
 
13. DEN - Williams, WR, Toledo
 
14. NYG - Thurmond, CB, Oregon
 
15. TEN - Sylvester, LB, Utah
 
16. CAR - Mathews, DT, Cincinnati
 
17. SF - Russell, DE, Wake Forest
 
18. PIT - D'Imperio, ILB, Rutgers
 
19. STL from ATL - Williams, DT, Pittsburgh
 
20. HOU - Webster, FS, Cincinnati
 
21. CIN - Karim, RB, Southern Illinois
 
22. NE - Stull, QB, Pittsburgh
 
23. GB - Hawkins, CB, LSU
 
24. NE from PHI - Wall, CB, Texas Tech
 
25. TB from BAL - Basped, DE, Nevada
 
26. ARI - Wilson, ILB, South Florida
 
27. DAL - Pawelek, ILB, Baylor
 
28. SD - Anderson, RB, Tulane
 
29. NYJ - McLaughlin, ILB, Boston College
 
30. MIN - Lawrence, WLB, Minnesota
 
31. IND - Lang, DE, Troy
 
32. NO - Woods, DT, LSU
 
33. IND - Smith, G, Colorado State
 
34. TEN - Roosevelt, WR, Buffalo
 
35. PIT - Hardman, T, Eastern Kentucky
 
36. PHI - McNeal, RB, SMU
 
37. PHI - McManis,CB, Northwestern
 
38. SEA - Reed, WR, Utah
 
39. IND - Shuler, TE, Penn State
 
40. NE - Quarless, TE, Penn State
 
41. NE - Sewall, WR, Brown
 
42. CAR - Graham, TE, Wisconsin
 
43. NE - Tyshovnytsky, T, Fordham
 
44. OAK - Daniels, DE, Cincinnati
 
45. MIA - Meier, WR, Kansas
How fun does the wildcat become with another guy that can throw the ball?  If he makes the team.

46. TB - Butler, CB, Clemson
 
47. STL - Marinelli, T, Stanford
 
48. DET - Polk, S, Indiana
 

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Mocking The Draft ct17 4-round mock v2



I added a round and made significant changes, so I felt it was worth posting a new one before the combine.  Have to start clearing some room on my DVR to tape the whole thing.

1st Round:

1. St. Louis Rams - Jimmy Clausen, QB, Notre Dame
Look at the teams with QB issues. They are drafting in the first 10. Haynesworth's team went went 4-12. This is why QB is always the pick at the top of the draft.

2. Detroit Lions - Ndamukong Suh, DT, Nebraska
No explanation necessary.

3. Tampa Bay Buccaneers - Gerald McCoy, DT, Oklahoma
Many holes to fill, looking for an impact player. Could also be Berry.

4. Washington Redskins - Russell Okung, T, Oklahoma State
Good blocking is the key to Shanahan's offense, and his line needs major help.

5. Kansas City Chiefs - Eric Berry, S, Tennessee
This defense needs a playmaker, and S is more of a need than ILB.

6. Seattle Seahawks - Sam Bradford, QB, Oklahoma
Hasselbeck is wearing down. Bradford gets time to heal and learn the offense.

7. Cleveland Browns - Rolando McClain, ILB, Alabama
They have Jackson, but Mangini comes from the Pats system, where they like to have two good ILBs. McClain is the best available player.

8. Oakland Raiders - Anthony Davis, LT, Rutgers
Easily the biggest need, besides a consistently good QB, which will not be found here.

9. Buffalo Bills - Bryan Bulaga, LT, Iowa
Would like a QB, but none left for here. After some poor 1st round picks, Bills choose the sure thing.

10. Denver Broncos - Dan Williams, NT/DE, Tennessee
Marshall has hinted at making nice. The d-line is weak. Williams could play NT, or lose a few pounds and play LDE.

11. Jacksonville Jaguars - Derrick Morgan, DE, Georgia Tech
The Jags had 14 sacks on the whole season, and they are not reaching for a DE here.

12. Miami Dolphins - Sergio Kindle, OLB, Texas
They want McClain. Kindle has the all-around athleticism, similar to Matthews Jr., to do everything.

13. San Francisco 49ers - Earl Thomas, FS, Texas
The SF fans want safety help. The CB situation last year was due to injuries more than talent.

14. Seattle Seahawks - Charles Brown, T, USC
This could be Spiller, especially with Carroll having coached Bush, but they need to keep Hasselbeck alive and Forsett is better than Mora thought. Carroll picks his guy from USC.

15. New York Giants - Brian Price, DT, UCLA
The best player left at one of their defensive holes.

16. Tennessee Titans - Joe Haden, CB, Florida
They have better DE depth than CB. Haden is the BPA, and CBs have been less of a risk in the 1st round.

17. San Francisco 49ers - C.J. Spiller, RB, Clemson
A weapon to create some excitement in this offense that needs it

18. Pittsburgh Steelers - Mike Iupati, G, Idaho
A mauler that fits the franchise.

19. Atlanta Falcons - Dez Bryant, WR, Oklahoma State
They need a #2 WR, they get a #1. Defense has needs but this is the best value.

20. Houston Texans - Donovan Warren, CB, Michigan
The best player at one of their defensive need positions.

21. Cincinnati Bengals - Golden Tate, WR, Notre Dame
The Bengals need a reliable WR.

22. New England Patriots - Jared Odrick, DE, Penn State
Seymour's replacement and in line with Pats draft history.

23. Green Bay Packers - Bruce Campbell, LT, Maryland
An obvious need, although I was leaning towards Von Miller before he went back to school.

24. Philadelphia Eagles - Everson Griffen, DE, USC
The Eagles like to rotate their line, and a lot of their good backup DEs are aging.

25. Baltimore Ravens - Damian Williams, WR, USC
Flacco needs targets, Williams is ready right away.

26. Arizona Cardinals - Sean Weatherspoon, ILB, Missouri
Will replace Dansby as the leader of this defense and play his position.

27. Dallas Cowboys - Chad Jones, S, LSU
A big athlete that can play run and pass.

28. San Diego Chargers - Terrence Cody, NT, Alabama
May only be a 2-down player but he is good at what he does.

29. New York Jets - Kyle Wilson, CB, Boise State
Fits the coach's personality and will be asked to start right away.

30. Minnesota Vikings - Brandon Ghee, CB, Wake Forest
A glaring need similar to the Jets, but is also an appropriate pick for this slot.

31. Indianapolis Colts - Daryl Washington, LB, TCU
Can play multiple LB positions and will fit the Colts system.

32. New Orleans Saints - Carlos Dunlap, DE, Florida
An upgrade at LDE and a team that can afford the risk.

2ND ROUND

1. STL - Gresham, TE, Oklahoma
A huge target for Clausen.

2. DET - Cox, CB, Oklahoma State
An upgrade is needed at the position.

3. TB - McCourty, CB, Rutgers
Barber is aging out, and the talent level at the position drops from here.

4. KC - Williams, RT, Oklahoma
A 1st round talent that fits best as a right tackle in a zone-blocking system.

5. WAS - Matthews, RB, Fresno State
The most likely back in the draft to be an every-down player. The Redskins need a sure thing

6. CLE - Burnett, S, Georgia Tech
Pool's return is questionable and Elam is nothing special. Will start at SS or FS.

7. OAK - Pierre-Paul, DE, South Florida
The type of athlete Al Davis loves can learn from Seymour.

8. SEA - Graham, DE, Michigan
The replacement for Kerney with a similar speed game

9. BUF - Spikes, ILB, Florida
The best player here to help the transition to a 3-4.

10. NE from JAC- Benn, WR, Illinois
A deep speed threat to add some variety to the passing game.

11. MIA - Angerer, ILB, Iowa
A guy that makes plays, measurables be damned.

12. TB from CHI - LaFell, WR, LSU
Good size and speed to help Freeman.

13. DEN - Pouncey, C/G, Florida
Guard is the talent need now but their center is older than me.

14. NYG - Allen, S, South Florida
The desperately needed safety that can cover.

15. NE from TEN - Hughes, OLB, TCU
The pass rusher they want and need.

16. CAR - Houston, DT, Texas
WR a big need, but the value here is at DT.

17. SF - Black, RT, LSU
A powerful run blocker that has experience against speed rushers in college.

18. KC from ATL - Sapp, OLB, South Carolina
Vrabel is aging, and will be a good teacher for his replacement, who shows good potential.

19. HOU - Mays, S, USC
He drops far enough to take a chance.

20. PIT - Franks, CB, Oklahoma
They need help with their two-minute defense, where the pressure is on the corners.

21. NE - Best, RB, California
An elusive runner, Maroney has disappointed and the other RBs are at the end of their careers.

22. CIN - Neal, DT, Purdue
They have big bodies but no pass rush up the middle.

23. PHI - Jerry, G, Mississippi
Goodbye Andrews brothers. Hello lower doctors' bills. The big guy Philly likes has shown good athleticism.

24. GB - Norwood, OLB, South Carolina
Replaces Kampman, will allow Matthews more freedom to play all over the field like his father.

25. BAL - Robinson, CB, Florida State
Has his ups and downs, but has talent so I don't see him slipping any further.

26. ARI - Calloway, T, Iowa
A solid player to protect the lefty Leinart's blind side, but I think he can play both tackle positions.

27. DAL - Ducasse, G, Massachusetts
Another team that likes big guys, and Dallas can afford the time to develop him.

28. SD - Dwyer, RB, Georgia Tech
Would benefit from playing behind Tomlinson for a year. Physical skills but needs teaching.

29. NYJ - Roberts, WR, Citadel
A weapon is needed at WR, Edwards unreliable but will be the short-term option until his UFA year.

30. MIN - Thomas, DT, North Carolina
Williams is talking retirement and Thomas would be a good replacement.

31. IND - Fox, LT, Miami
Assuming good medical tests, a player that fits Indy. I see a 4-way competition with Ugoh, Johnson, and Diem for the two tackle spots.

32. NO - Bowman, LB, Penn State
More speed and youth at the LB position, and a great value here.



3RD ROUND

1. STL - Jones, DT, Syracuse
Spagnuolo gets his attacking DT, and he's already used to playing in a dome.

2. DET - Johnson, G, Alabama
So I'm not in the hate Backus club. Interior is more of a concern.

3. TB - Rolle, S, Florida State
Intelligence is highly underrated in safeties.

4. KC - Shipley, WR, Texas
Cassell needs targets, Shipley has good hands and speed.

5. OAK - Arenas, CB, Alabama
Return game skills and help at CB in a division that is throwing the ball more.

6. PHI from SEA - Jones, S, Georgia
Does Sean Jones have vision problems or is he really that bad?

7. CLE - Hernandez, TE, Florida
Puts another weapon on the field to help the QB.

8. BUF - McCluster, RB/WR, Mississippi
The Bills need some excitement on offense. They will likely lose Owens and Lynch is a flake.

9. MIA - Johnson, S, Utah
Giants and Raiders fans could have told you that Wilson is not a free safety.

10. CHI - Saffold, LT, Indiana
This guy is climbing the charts. People just realized Indiana had a football program.

11. JAC - Tebow, QB, Florida
I feel shame in making this pick. But they can use a backup QB and he can play a wildcat-type role.

12. NYG - Sharpton, MLB, Miami
A reach here. The Giants have done well with Miami LBs and need speed. Don't want a RT project.

13. TEN - Hardy, DE, Mississippi
Falls due to weight and poor senior year.

14. CAR - Gronkowski, TE, Arizona
Can block and catch, a big upgrade at the position.

15. SF - Gilyard, WR, Cincinnati
A fast WR used to their spread offense.

16. DEN - Thomas, WR, Georgia Tech
Even if Marshall comes back, it might not be long term.

17. HOU - McKnight, RB, USC
Good hands and speed, and different type of runner than Slaton or Foster.

18. PIT - Stuckey, S, Kansas
A big tackler that fills a position of need.

19. ATL - Lindley, CB, Kentucky
Lack of depth was exposed by injuries, although starters were not stars, either. Lindley's poor Senior Bowl drops him back.

20. CIN - Edds, LB, Iowa
Allows Maualauga to move to the middle.

21. OAK from NE - Atkins, DT, Georgia
They need some fight on the inside.

22. GB - Jackson, CB, Alabama
An obvious need with two old corners.

23. PHI - Priest, CB, TCU
After watching Dallas WRs run by them, they pick a corner with speed.

24. BAL - Pitta, TE, BYU
Heap version 2.

25. ARI - Cunningham, OLB, Florida
The outside pass rusher they need.

26. DAL - Williams, WR, Tulane
A solid receiver that works hard to replace a Williams that does not.

27. SD - Alualu, DE, California
The d-line could use a quick player as well, and he is a good value here.

28. CLE from NYJ - LeFevour, QB, Central Michigan
Real competition for Quinn, Holmgren will look to finally stop the QB merry-go-round.

29. MIN - Petrus, G, Arkansas
Help is needed up the middle and this guy looks like a smaller Iupati.

30. IND - Lane, DE, Murray State
On a defense built around the pass rush, you need good backups. Lane provides a different look with his size, and he is not much bigger than Brock.

31. NO - McCoy, QB, Texas
Fits the NO system, and a good backup is needed for this team.

4TH ROUND

1. STL - Muckelroy, LB, Texas
Fills a need with a good athlete.

2. DET - Devine, RB, West Virginia
This could probably hold off until the 5th, but I wanted to get Detroit a good turf RB. There is also talent here at WR and DE.

3. TB - Young, RT, Notre Dame
A risk/reward player, but Youngblood was ugly last year.

4. KC - Tennant, C/G, Kansas City
Williams was not enough. They need an upgrade in the middle.

5. WAS - Lewis, S, Vanderbilt
Landry is a SS.

6. SEA - Tate, RB, Auburn
A partner for Forsett that does everything well.

7. CLE - Misi, OLB, Utah
Fans will probably want a CB by now. I went OLB because I think the talent is better than at CB here.

8. OAK - Watson, LB, Florida State
A fast LB for Al.

9. BUF - Troup, NT, Central Florida
Solves the problem of trying out Stroud and Williams for the nose spot.

10. CHI - Asante, S, Nebraska
I don't have any strong feelings for Chicago here. Pretend I picked whoever you wanted.

11. JAC - Walton, C, Baylor
Completes the o-line retool. Jones-Drew will get big holes this year.

12. MIA - Alexander, WR, Missouri
Another 4th round WR for Miami, a big target Henne can't miss.

13. TEN - Olsen, C, Notre Dame
Mawae will probably retire before 50. Probably.

14. CAR - Decker, WR, Minnesota
A replacement for Muhammad.

15. SF - Selvie, OLB, South Florida
Like Cleveland, I might have gone CB if the talent level was here. SF has good OLBs, but are hoping for a 10+sack guy.

16. DEN - Wootton, DE, Northwestern
A value pick that further upgrades the d-line. Also thinking about Pike here. Or an ILB.

17. NYG - Lang, DE, Troy
This is a no to Veldheer, and a warning to the DEs to produce.

18. PIT - Carrington, DE, Arkansas State
The whole Pitt d-line is aging, expect a NT next pick. A RB at some point also.

19. ATL - Wilson, DE, East Carolina
Has talent, needs coaching, a perfect fit at left end.

20. HOU - Smith, DT, Louisiana Tech
A plug for the middle.

21. NE - Gerhart, RB, Stanford
Two RBs! A good complement to Best, smart player for a smart team. Or this could be a CB.

22. CIN - Wright, S, Florida
A safety with a little more speed to help deep.

23. PHI - Hardesty, RB, Tennessee
Westbrook's concussions are a concern. Could also be a QB.

24. GB - Murphy, CB, South Florida
Two old corners, two young corners. Also thinking Dixon at RB.

25. BAL - Sheffield, OLB, Troy
The defense is aging and expensive. Reed, Lewis, Pryce, Bannan. But Sheffield is the top talent available here.

26. ARI - Hardman, T, Eastern Kentucky
Arizona needs two new tackles. Brown may get a shot to play at guard. Also thinking CB here.

27. DAL - Veldheer, T, Hillsdale
A replacement to be groomed for Colombo, should learn a lot from another tall guy.

28. SD - Owusu-Ansari, CB, Indiana U. of Pennsylvania
A project to turn into another Cromartie .

29. PHI from NYJ - White, WR, Michigan State
Depth is needed at WR.

30. MIN - Curran, LB, Georgia
A fast LB for a fast defense.

31. IND - Byers, G, USC
I was thinking DT, but they have a lot of young guys at that position. DeVan started 9 games and the fans have had enough. Tough crowd. Then again, the Giants are looking to boot Goff after 5. Good teams want results fast.

32. NO - Coleman, S, Ohio State
Harper and Sharper are free agents (RFA and UFA). While Jenkins could slide over, more help could be needed anyway.

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Mocking The Draft A real "mock" draft - sense of humor required



 

I've considered for awhile putting something humorous up here, since sometimes we take things too seriously. So this is a true "mock". I'm making fun of your teams, ownership, coaches, past draft history, or players. I don't necessarily believe the things I say, but they worked for quick jokes. I left out anything offensive (well, I named Al Davis). I went only 16 picks (halfway), because if you're team is drafting late it is harder to find things about them to make fun about.

My other idea is to put up a poll, who is more upset, the Lions fans being given a left tackle or the Cowboys fans being given an inside linebacker?

If you want any explanations, feel free to ask. Or come up with a better "mock" pick than I did. My first one is pretty weak.

  

1. St. Louis Rams - Brian Price, DT, UCLA

It's not enough they stole LA's team. Now they steal their best born and raised player as well.

2. Detroit Lions - Damian Williams, WR, USC

This one was too easy.

3. Tampa Bay Buccaneers - Jevan Snead, QB, Mississippi

Tampa realizes they no longer have 6 quarterbacks on their roster. Snead fits their prototype of physical potential over actual application of those skills.

4. Washington Redskins - Jimmy Clausen, QB, Notre Dame

As a QB Clausen's agent asks for the most money, therefore he is the best player.

5. Kansas City Chiefs - Sam Bradford, QB, Oklahoma

Positional value is more important than skill, and what it more important than a QB? Plus, Haley just decides he doesn't like Cassell, the guy is not his type of player.

6. Seattle Seahawks - Rolando McClain, ILB, Alabama

You pick the best player, regardless of need. Plus, Walter Jones has at least five years left.

7. Cleveland Browns - Tony Pike, QB, Cincinnati

Let's make the QB controversy even more confusing. And then wear them all down until they have no trade value.

8. Oakland Raiders - Joe Smith, K, Northeastern Idaho College

Smith runs a 4.48 in the 40, by far the fastest kicker in the draft. Al Davis figures he can use him to raise the threat of fake field goals.

9. Buffalo Bills - Navorro Bowman, DT, Penn State

Buffalo cares little about where everyone else ranks players or what position they play. As long as they are from Penn State.

10. Denver Broncos - Russell Okung, T, Oklahoma State

McDaniels throws a hissy fit after Clady forgets to send him a birthday card, after which he is kicked off the team, making tackle the position of most need.

11. Jacksonville Jaguars - Tim Tebow, QB, Florida

Gaining the attention of 16-year old girls has been the road to success for so many other sports franchises.

12. Miami Dolphins - Mike Williams, WR, Syracuse

Parcells is a laid-back guy that believes in high-flying offenses and giving players numerous chances.

13. San Francisco 49'ers - Brandon Spikes, ILB, Florida

A younger Spikes to replace the older, and it's not like Willis is any good.

14. Seattle Seahawks - Sean Weatherspoon, LB, Missouri

Have to keep picking BPA.

15. NY Giants - Derrick Morgan, DE, Georgia Tech

If they keep drafting pass rushers, one of them will get to the QB, right?

16. Carolina Panthers (giving this back to them) - Jonathan Dwyer, RB, Georgia Tech

A team that is consistently looking to improve its running game in the draft.

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Mocking The Draft 3-round mock draft

 

 

1st Round:

1. St. Louis Rams - Jimmy Clausen, QB, Notre Dame

Look at the teams with QB issues. They are drafting in the first 10. Haynesworth's team went went 4-12. New Orleans and Indianapolis have weak DT's. This is why QB is always the pick at the top of the draft.

2. Detroit Lions - Ndamukong Suh, DT, Nebraska

No explanation necessary.

3. Tampa Bay Buccaneers - Gerald McCoy, DT, Oklahoma

Many holes to fill, looking for an impact player. Could also be Berry.

4. Washington Redskins - Russell Okung, T, Oklahoma State

The Redskins cannot run or pass with their current line. Good blocking is the key to Shanahan's offense, not the QB.

5. Kansas City Chiefs - Eric Berry, S, Tennessee

This could be a tackle. But, I'm sorry to say, the Chiefs will likely be picking in the first part of the draft next year too. If they cannot land a decent tackle in the second round, at worst they can land the next Oher or Otah next year. An impact safety is tougher to find.

6. Seattle Seahawks - Sam Bradford, QB, Oklahoma

Hasselbeck is wearing down. And tackle can wait until later. A good fit for Bradford, he has time to rest his shoulder and learn the pro game from a vet.

7. Cleveland Browns - Rolando McClain, ILB, Alabama

They have Jackson, but Mangini comes from the Pats system, where they like to have two good ILBs. McClain is the best available player.

8. Oakland Raiders - Bruce Campbell, T, Oakland

Easily the biggest need, besides a consistently good QB, which will not be found here.

9. Buffalo Bills - Bryan Bulaga, T, Iowa

Might take Bradford if he falls. Were hoping Locker and Mallett came out. But tackle is a definite need. They'll take whoever is highest on their board at the position. The Bills need a sure thing rather than another 1st round disappointment.

10. Denver Broncos - Dan Williams, NT, Tennessee

If Marshall does not come back, this pick could be Dez Bryant. But the front three are the source of their defensive troubles. Williams could play NT, or lose a few pounds and play LDE.

11. Jacksonville Jaguars - Derrick Morgan, DE, Georgia Tech

The Jags had 14 sacks on the whole season. Tebow may help sell seats, but not if they do not win games, which they will not with their pash rush. They should hope Tebow falls to them in the 3rd - they need a backup QB anyway.

12. Miami Dolphins - Sergio Kindle, OLB, Texas

They would be happy if McClain falls. Spiller is an option because of Brown's injury or Williams' age. Parcells loves RBs but has never noticed speed. Kindle has the athleticism to rush the QB and defend the pass, similar to Matthews Jr. last year. Plus, he did not complain about his reduced pass rush role this year, showing he is a team player.

13. San Francisco 49ers - Earl Thomas, FS, Texas

Read the SF sites, safety is more of a need than corner, where they at least have several options when players return from injury. It's pretty bad when the safeties look bad with Willis in front of them, considering he covers more ground than any ILB in the game.

14. Seattle Seahawks - Charles Brown, T, USC

This could be Spiller, especially with Carroll as coach, but I think the new staff realize the player they have in Forsett and pick up a complimentary back later. DE is also an option, Kerney has nothing left. But Hasselbeck is running out of his nine lives. Carroll picks his guy from USC.

15. New York Giants - Brian Price, DT, UCLA

The best player left at one of their defensive holes. Spiller a possible choice with RB surgeries and their KR/PR a free agent, but he does not fit their offense. They could also choose Haden if they think Ross can stick at safety, but that would be a risk.

16. Tennessee Titans - Joe Haden, CB, Florida

They have Ford if VandenBosch leaves. Their backup corners are less talented. Haden is also the best player still on the board, and CBs have been less of a risk in the 1st round.

17. San Francisco 49ers - Anthony Davis, T, Rutgers

If they win the coin toss with Tennessee, Haden may be the pick. He is the best talent available, allows them to jettison Clements and his contract, and there will be good right tackles available in the second round. But Davis is a great athlete to have at right tackle.

18. Pittsburgh Steelers - Donovan Warren, CB, Michigan

There were times this year that the secondary could not hold for one play.

19. Atlanta Falcons - Dez Bryant, WR, Oklahoma State

The top corners are gone. A lot of complaints about Anderson at LDE, but Biermann has been helping. Jenkins has been a disappointment. They need a second good WR to free up White.

20. Houston Texans - C. J. Spiller, RB, Clemson

A lot of people see him going higher. But he is not the next Chris Johnson, he is the next Reggie Bush. Similar size, speed, abilities, and running style. Both available in the same metallic mint green paint. Watch the 10-min video on the Field Gulls site. Even when he runs up the middle, he tries to break for the sideline and use his speed to escape. Does not make tacklers miss. Will be more of a weapon catching the ball like Bush. The Texans will be a good fit for him.

21. Cincinnati Bengals - Golden Tate, WR, Notre Dame

The Bengals need a reliable WR. The two Jets games were painful to watch.

22. New England Patriots - Jerry Hughes, OLB, TCU

The pass rush disappeared this year. Seymour and Vrabel were missed.

23. Green Bay Packers - Trent Williams, T, Oklahoma

An obvious need, although I was leaning towards Von Miller before he went back to school.

24. Philadelphia Eagles - Mike Iupati, G, Idaho

A man among boys on the highlight tapes. With the Justice extension, allows the Eagles to jettison both Andrews brothers, freeing up lots of cash.

25. Baltimore Ravens - Brandon LaFell, WR, LSU

An obvious need. Has the physical gifts to succeed.

26. Arizona Cardinals - Ricky Sapp, OLB, Clemson

Any left tackle here would be a reach. Instead they pick a rush guy that played OLB in college.

27. Dallas Cowboys - Taylor Mays, S, USC

A big athlete that fills a need, for an owner that likes big athletes. May not face the pressure of having to start right away, giving him time to develop.

28. San Diego Chargers - Terrence Cody, NT, Alabama

A team with no big holes. Could use some young blood on the DL as well as a running back. Thought about changing the pick, but it would create too much work redoing my draft. RB is not a desperate need for a team that barely tries to run the ball.

29. New York Jets - Damian Williams, WR, USC

A fellow USC teammate for Sanchez. Edwards has too many drops and will demand too much money.

30. Minnesota Vikings - Chad Jones, FS, LSU

The safety talent still on the board here exceeds other positions of need.

31. New Orleans Saints - Sean Weatherspoon, LB, Missouri

The best 4-3 OLB in the draft. A solid player that would go higher in other years.

32. Indianapolis Colts - Everson Griffen, DE, USC

Would have been Lewis from Oklahoma if he came out, or Weatherspoon if they draft first. But Indy always surprises and does not reach for need. Although this actually is a need, with no depth at the position their defense revolves around. Griffen provides a good contrast to Mathis, the smallest LDE in the NFL.

2nd Round

:

1. STL - Gresham, TE, Oklahoma

Spagnuolo has seen what top TEs can do in the NFC East, and they do need a good set of hands. Similar to the Delmas pick last year in that you can say BPA.

2. DET - Best, RB, Cal

His quickness, like Harvin's, will play well on turf. Good complement to Smith in the backfield, and a running game is needed to take pressure off of Stafford.

3. TB - Ghee, CB, Wake Forest

Barber is on his last legs. This would give them two solid to potentially great CBs.

4. KC - Black, T, LSU

Can play left or right sides, depending on who they like best at what position. The offensive line needs a lot of help.

5. WAS - Matthews, RB, Fresno State

The most likely back in the draft to be an every-down player.

6. CLE - Burnett, S, Georgia Tech

Pool's return is questionable and Elam is nothing special. Will start at SS or FS.

7. OAK - Dunlap, DE, Florida

The athlete Al Davis loves is a reasonable pick here. With his size and speed he can play multiple positions on the line. It would be great if Seymour would stay and teach him.

8. SEA - Hardy, DE, Mississippi

The replacement for Kerney.

9. BUF - Bowman, LB, Penn State

Another Penn Stater for Buffalo. Maybe their scouts don't like to drive far.

10. NE from JAC- Benn, WR, Illinois

A deep speed threat to add some variety to the passing game. The Pats pass game has become too predictable, whereas in the early Brady years it was the most unpredictable with everyone getting the ball.

11. MIA - Spikes, ILB, Florida

The large physical ILB that Parcells loves. Could be Angerer if he was larger.

12. TB from CHI - Shipley, WR, Texas

Good hands and quickness - a good fit for a young QB.

13. DEN - Jones, DE, Syracuse

More help for the line.

14. NYG - Allen, S, South Florida

The desperately needed safety that can cover.

15. CAR - Decker, WR, Minnesota

A younger Muhammed, whoever their QB is will need some help. I hope they give Moore a chance.

16. NE from TEN - McKnight, RB, USC

A versatile RB that is used to playing on a strong passing team.

17. SF - Lindley, CB, Kentucky

They get a good corner here, if he has a good camp then it is the end for Clements. If they pick Haden in the first, I would choose Calloway at RT or Gilyard at WR.

18. KC from ATL - Norwood, OLB, South Carolina

Vrabel may be done and Hali is sill learning the position. Selvie from South Florida could be the choice if they want more athleticism.

19. HOU - Houston, DT, Texas

His jerseys will sell well for the novelty of the name. Provides the strength they need in the middle.

20. PIT - Johnson, G, Alabama

They need to both protect their QB and open holes for the running game.

21. NE - Alualu, DE, California

A natural 3-4 end to try and fill the large hole caused by the trade of Seymour.

22. CIN - Odrick, DT, Penn State

They have big bodies but no pass rush up the middle.

23. PHI - Stuckey, S, Kansas

A productive tackler from the safety spot, Sean Jones was a bust.

24. GB - Schofield, OLB, Wisconsin

A hugely productive year in college, will allow Matthews more freedom to play coverage. Could also be Selvie or one of the Troy ends, but I'll go with the in-state product.

25. BAL - Robinson, CB, Florida State

They miss McAlister and Rolle.

26. ARI - Fox, T, Miami

Warner does not play another year without some protection.

27. DAL - Gilyard, WR, Cincinnati

Will help them in the return game. With Austin outplaying Williams, the Cowboys will be looking to stick with the speed formula.

28. SD - Dwyer, RB, Georgia Tech

Would benefit from playing behind Tomlinson for a year. Not impressed by his bowl game.

29. NYJ - Cox, CB, Oklahoma State

Lito Sheppard's contract and trade conditions make it difficult to keep him, and the backups were constantly hurt. If Sheppard is kept, this could be a 3-4 DE.

30. MIN - Pouncey, C, Florida

The middle of the line needs help. Favre is fragile and Peterson did not get good holes this year.

31. NO - Neal, DT, Purdue

Ellis has been a disappointment considering his draft position.

32. IND - Washington, LB, TCU

Could play in the middle or outside, but Indy cannot let this talent pass by here. If they draft before NO, they could steal Neal.

 

3rd Round:

1. STL - Muckelroy, LB, Texas

Time to help the defense with a good athlete, the line can wait until the next pick.

2. DET - Franks, CB, Oklahoma

Their division competitors are all passing teams now.

3. TB - Calloway, T, Iowa

Trueblood was among the leaders in penalties and endangering the QB stats.

4. KC - Render, G, Virginia Tech

Expect last year's starters to hit the gym once the second lineman gets picked near the top of the draft.

5. OAK - Pierre-Paul, DE, South Florida

Will mature behind Ellis at RDE. Gives them two DEs with high upside for the future.

6. PHI - Jackson, CB, Alabama

If only Sheldon Brown could cover Dallas WRs as well as he complains about his salary.

7. CLE - Hernandez, TE, Florida

Puts another weapon on the field to help the QB.

8. BUF - McCluster, RB/WR, Mississippi

The Bills need some excitement on offense. And to not change the system the week before the opener.

9. MIA - Johnson, FS, Utah

Giants and Raiders fans could have told you that Wilson is not a free safety. I still have nightmares about the second-to-last play of the 2008 Super Bowl.

10. CHI - Young, T, Notre Dame

Cutler had better protection at Vanderbilt. I echo Urlacher, what happened to running the ball?

11. JAC - Tebow, QB, Florida

Will be drafted as a QB, backup for now, play the wildcat.

12. NYG - Angerer, ILB, Iowa

Makes plays, something no existing Giants LB can claim.

13. CAR - Gronkowski, TE, Arizona

Can block and catch.

14. TEN - Graham, DE, Michigan

Will compete with Ford for a starting job.

15. SF - Alexander, WR, Missouri

A big target used to their spread offense.

16. DEN - Pike, QB, Cincinnati

There were bound to be growing pains for Orton transitioning to an offense where they actually want him to throw the ball. Pike would fit the team well if Orton does not work out.

17. HOU - Jones, S, Georgia

Someone had to fall out of the pack of 2nd round safeties. Good value here.

18. PIT - Wright, FS, Florida

There are free agency and injury concerns with the safeties.

19. ATL - McCourty, CB, Rutgers

Lack of depth was exposed by injuries, although starters were not stars, either.

20. CIN - Edds, LB, Iowa

Allows Maualauga to move to the middle.

21. OAK - Jerry, G, Mississippi

A big force to assist the running game.

22. GB - Arenas, CB, Alabama

Falls because of his size, but will be an asset covering guys like Harvin and Knox.

23. PHI - Hardesty, RB, Tennessee

Westbrook's concussions are a concern, depth is needed at the position.

24. BAL - Brown, WR, Central Michigan

Need a speedy guy who can run as far as Flacco can throw.

25. ARI - Asamoah, G, Illinois

More QB protection.

26. DAL - Ulatoski, T, Texas

Dallas likes big lineman, and this guy is the biggest.

27. SD - Wilson, CB, Boise State

I have had many SD fans tell me that the corners played poorly this year.

28. CLE - Gerhart, RB, Stanford

Harrison is the primary, but they need a second back with different skills.

29. MIN - Thomas, WR, Georgia Tech

Eventual replacement for Berrian and a big target to help the next QB.

30. NO - McCoy, QB, Texas

May not have the most talent, but I'm looking at him strictly as a backup for this specific team. Should be best equipped to handle the pressure of leading a good team in big games.

31. IND - Capers, T, West Virginia

Because questions about Manning's blind-side protection cannot remain. If he has a blind side.

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