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It's been too long...
But the NBA will be back soon enough. And with it comes another great season of GSOM posts and chatter. I have a ton of great aspirations for this season but I wanted to gauge how every else felt about our future.
I find myself caught up in the J.Tyler buzz and feel that this kid has the raw potential. I want to see what everyones BOLD (yet realistic) predictions will be. Let's get 3 bold yet achievable predictions and see who hit's 3 for 3 at the end of year.
1. I think Jeremy Tyler will be the most impactful rookie on the Warriors this year.
2. Monta finally makes an All Star team. But it won't be on the Warriors.
3. Ekpe takes a nice leap forward and ends with 10 ppg, 7 rebs, and close to 2 blks per.
Not saying this is what I would like to happen. I'd love for Klay to just ball out of the gate and for Monta to stay a "Warriors" if possible. Ekpe contributing significantly would probably mean we didn't improve our front court dramatically, but I think these are real possibilities. And if these things do happen, I do hope it's all in a winning season where we'll be finally seeing the playoffs again. What do you guys think?
Golden State's got Talent!
Well, if they don't make it as NBA players Klay might be a good Warrior girl! As for Jeremy, I hope this isn't the effort we see from him all year.
NBA 2K11 Steph Curry question.
Anyone not like Steph Curry's shot? Well, after a many seasons worth of gameplay, I think I need to change his shooting stroke. The default is Kelenna Azubuike's shot, which I think is far from Steph's. Any players you think have a similar shot to Steph curry out there, form wise?
"They do remember me from 'Space Jam,' but not from basketball," Jordan said. "So I felt like this would be a good opportunity to kind of expose them to that."
Steph sprains his ankle @ US practice. UPDATED
Curry landed on a teammate's foot during a scrimmage and immediately went down, and those who witnessed it said the injury initially appeared serious.
"I think he was a little scared," coach Mike Krzyzewski told ESPN.com.
But the team's athletic trainers later told the coaching staff there was no structural damage to the ankle, and Krzyzewski said he had "no idea" if Curry would be available for practice Thursday
I think the Warriors curse is in full effect! What's it gonna take? For Lacob and Gruber to sign on the dotted line?
Anyway, here's the link to the full article.
http://sports.espn.go.com/oly/olybb/news/story?id=5473409
Now I think the question comes down to this. Is it worth it for him to try and continue? Coach K says he's not sure if he'll make the next practice, but I'd have to assume that he wouldn't make the last cut if that's the case. And that may be the best thing for the Warriors organization.
UPDATE:
It hurts. To miss a great practice like this with the scrimmaging and all -- it's never great to have an injury, especially in a pressure situation like this," Curry said at the Magic Box center on the outskirts of the Spanish capital. "I just have to make sure I get back this weekend."
Looks as if he's day to day and yet still may be able to play this weekend and try to make the squad. I like his determination to play on this team and just hope he'll be fine the rest of the way through.
Here's link to the update...
http://sports.espn.go.com/oly/olybb/news/story?id=5476023
Dorrell Questions...
Sup Folks,
First off Congratulations are in order for your squad being able to put together the conglomerate you know have in the organization. I'm sure the haters are gonna keep hating for the simple fact that that's what they do. But I got family in Miami who I'm excited for as this upcoming season rolls around.
Now on to my main reason for being here today...

, I'm a die hard GS Warriors fan, and whenever we acquire a player that I have limited knowledge about, I like to get first had opinions on what the team acquired and the pros and cons for that players from the fans, who I've noticed general give a better perspective that the media.
Dorrell Wright seems like a pretty good person overall, good skill set, good height, good athletic ability, with potential still to be developed.
But there are a few questions we're mulling over as a fanbase.
How much has he improved over the past few season? Is there room for more? Is he the defense minded player that he's made out to be?
I'd appreciate any insight you guys could offer and whether you think it was good pick up or not for our up tempo system.
Thanks for the time and congrats and good luck this coming season.
Dorrell Wight Q&A w/ Miami Beat Writer
I checked back a bit on fan shots, didn't see this posted. I'm sure it'll be erased if it already was. But it's a pretty good article with a Heat beat writer who gives a perspective as to what Dorrell Wright actually brings to a team.
I was trying to sign up over at the Heat forum to ask the fans, as they usually tell it how it is, and what a players worth really is. But this is some good insight.
Enjoy
Is all this FA chatter and plotting good for the NBA? The Fans?

I originally loved the idea that so many elite players are considering playing musical chairs with the teams in the league. However, I think I'm looking at this from a different perspective now....
Ok...now, I love the off season(Because I'm a Warriors fan), it's an opportunity to improve your team, not matter if your a Minny Fan, or a Lakers fan, you'll see all fans hitting up the ESPN Trade machine trying to work out trades that will magically mean immediate success for the coming season. It's a time of hope that THIS will be the year that your team turns that corner into a playoff contender or championship hopeful.
But I think we all agree this year is different.
I don't remember any other period when so many top tier/elite FA's we're either free to roam and explore the options out there, simply jumped ship in order to find greener pastures. Under any other circumstances the fans of the league should be elated at the opportunity to see if their squad could make a move to land any one of these guys. But we also all know that this isn't the case. Being that these players have been able to communicate and plot within themselves to go "Voltron" on us and create a huge, sword wielding super-bot only means that the rest of the teams in the league will be hard pressed to have any real shot at taking their division, much less a championship.

In a league where in the last 30 years, we've seen the same 4-5 teams take home the championship, speckled with a few teams like Miami's one and done year, how could this possibly be good news for the rest of us? The fans of those sub-par teams (like us) can now only have pipe dreams of reaching the playoffs, much less actually standing a chance of going for it all. Even those teams that generally make the playoffs year to year have fans that have to realize that it'll that much less likely it'll happen.
I know the concept is far from setting a precedent, we've seen what the "Big 3" have been able to provide a Celtic teams that was just flapping in the wind. But KG and Jesus Shuttleworth were far from being in their prime, though obviously still very effective as a tandem, they paid their dues by bringing a competitive chance to the T-Wolves and the Sonics in the playoffs, respectively.
And even prior to that, the last ditch efforts of Malone and Payton trying to get a ring w/ the Lakers. Though they faltered since it was in the twilight of their careers and the ring was the only thing missing.

As fans, we want to win, we want the playoffs, we want a championship. But with the BEST players in the sport collaborating to make 1 or 2 lucky cities in the league the unquestioned favorites to win it all, with MAX contract around 6 years a piece. Most small market teams or teams in not so "prime" locations won't have much to look forward to for the next half decade, and then some as it'll just happen again.
What do you guys think? I understand if you don't see that way one bit. But how does it make you feel as fan who wants to have a winning team?
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Well, that's that then! Randolph will be here this season...
"I told (Randolph) Monday, 'I'm not trading you unless there is a heck of a player on the other side of the deal. You're not going anywhere,' " Riley said.
Read more:http://www.realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/67270/20100618/gm_tells_anthony_randolph_hes_not_being_shopped/#ixzz0rFDT1qKn
Of course Riley leaves the door open for any deal involving a "heck of a player".
In this realgm.com ariticle it states that Randolph isn't being shopped. I'll take that as AR will be our PF for the upcoming season. And actually, as much as I'd like to see some form of drastic change in the organization, I think his potential is too much to give up on at this point.
I have to say, I LOVE GSoMers for some of the great posts I've been seeing lately. Very well written and supported opinions of why or why not to keep this young man, and what are true needs are as an organization. But I hope with the rumor winds swirling, we're able to let this one die down a bit. As for the movements of Monta, Maggs, and everyone else not named Steph Curry. I'm sure as the draft gets closer and closer, we'll all get riled up again for the possibility of a blockbuster. Unfounded as our hopes may be.
Though I was open to moving him for a improvement piece, I'm glad Riley actually stepped up and commented. Are you guys ok with another season of Project AR?
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Update: J-Rich tweets about the Ad. It will be in this Thurs's AZ Republic Paper.
UPDATE: We finally got out message across to J-Rich, lets all keep up the support and hope the Suns keep the momentum till the end! I really can't thank you guys enough for not only chipping in little by little for the donations, but for the support and help getting the word out. I can't take the credit, this was definitely a collective group effort! I applaud you all!

(Thanks Eutychus for posting this)
We made it happen Folks! This Thursday it'll be in the Arizona Republic. They should still be in Arizona then, so hopefully J-Rich will get a look at it. Either way! We ARE the best fans in the NBA, and I thank you for making this happen! We collected $577.66 towards the add, I'll cover any extra charges as well as trying to get some sent our way.
Any extra, I'll still donate to Red Cross!
THANKS GUYS!
(What I sent over)

(Here's the actual Ad)

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Archives: Missing Signatures (4/19/06)
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J-RICH AD: WE DID IT!
UPDATE 5/25: Well Folks, We actually did it! Thank you to all of you who donated! We received a $100 donation @ the end that put us over the top! I was amazed this morning to see our total stands at over $578!
I was in touch w/ the Arizona Republic yesterday, however the woman who I dealt with was saying that the price was different than the gentleman I had spoken to originally. He is back from vacation today however and I'll be speaking with him shortly, hopefully. Either way, I'll get our Ad over to them, and they say it takes 2 days to run it. So we should get it in there in time for the NEXT game, not tonight unfortunately.
It will read...
We Still Believe in J-Rich
There are players that play for the money,
There are players that play for the game,
Congratulations on your season and success with the Suns,
You have ALWAYS been a true Warrior on the court.
From your Golden State friends and fans at...
Golden State of mind
BEAT LA!
What do you guys think? And I have a question for the MODS, do you mind if I over lay this on the GSOM logo on the upper right hand corner? I've got it already layed out on a Word Doc if you want me to email it to one of you to check it out? Let me know ASAP, so I can get in touch w/ AZ Republic.
UPDATE 5/24: Suns helped our cause out w/ a win over the weekend. We stand @ $392! We've done a great job and are extremely close to the 4x4 Ad. I need to ask everyone to please keep mentioning the donations to any Warrior fans out there, also, if you are able to donate a bit more, please do so. At this point, I'm looking to add more than the amount I had originally planned if only we can get a bit closer.
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UPDATE 5/20: Well, we're getting close guys! We're at $333.75! Unfortunately, since the Suns lost yesterday, their time in the playoffs seems to be winding down a bit, and the discounted rate was for while they were in! So lets keep pushing this! We're very close at this point!
UPDATE 5/17: So we've hit a bit of a wall, we received 2 donations Saturday, and 2 donations on Sunday. With a grand total of 26 donations, we're WAY short of the 200+ people who voted that they'd be willing to donate. We're just about @ $250, 1/2 way there to the 4x4 inch ad! Seems we'll have to extend the collection time a bit in order to get this done.
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UPDATE 5/15: So pay pal charged about $0.45 per transaction of $5.00, roughly hitting our total a bit, out current total is $200 not including my portion of course. So roughly $260. Please ask any Warrior fans you know if they'd be willing to donate as we're going to need as many people as possible to reach the goal of $560 for the 4x4 ad! Thank you to all of you that have contributed thus far!
EDIT: I've set up the Pay Pal account HERE. Whatever you can donate would be appreciated, lets try to keep it to a $5 minimum, but if you can do more please do so as we will be cutting it close for a standard ad size.
Please note that NO funds will be wasted, We'll get the largest Ad possible, and any extra money earned I will donate to the American Red Cross! Thank you! Lets try and make this thing work! We're the best fans in the NBA! Lets show this!
Ok, in speaking to my boy the other night, we were talking about all the current Warriors who were/are in the playoffs(Nice post by the way). And of course J-Rich is the undoubted Warriors fan favorite. How couldn't you be after the "We Believe" run, and the heart he showed as he (and others) took out apology ad to fans back in '06 after another disappointing season?
This gave me a bit of an idea...hit the jump

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What's Big Ben's worth?
Sup people. I read the posts on here quite often, but haven't posted on Niners Nations before. I'm a die hard bay sports fan...at least the good teams in the bay that is. Niners,Dubs,Giants. I've been a long time member of the GSoM blog since before SB Nation and I really enjoy reading all the post on here.
I just received an interesting text from a friend, in which he describe that Adam Schefter is reporting the Steelers are contacted a few teams regarding the interest for Big Ben. The Niners among them, he said the Rams and Bill have declined. But he asked an interesting question....should he be availalbe for a 2nd Rnd pick, is that something that we pull the trigger on? A 3rd Round pick instead?
Knowing he will be suspended for 6 games, he could be had for a little less than his actual value. There's no doubt the guy can play, but do we bring in a previous media darling, who is now a sideshow type of act? I wanted to gauge your opinions on this one as I'm a bit on the fence about it. I'm leaning towards thinking that it may be worth it in the long run.
What your guy's take on this? Even if you think we shouldn't bite on Big Ben, what is his worth?
THIS is why Curry will win ROY...
Well, for starters I'm pretty much a homer, though I do believe that I can objectively look at the Warriors and discern fact from fiction when it comes to our team.
I've been having the argument w/ some of my boys about how Steph Curry is and may end up being the better player than Tyreke. And IMHO he deserves a good shot @ the ROY and should WIN it. So I figured I'd look @ some numbers and show folks a bit of a foundation for my argument.
First off, let me define my interpretation of what the ROY award is. I know it's pretty much up for interpretation, but the award is given to the "Top" Rookie of the year. It's a matter of whether that really means best statistical year, or best player overall, which we know can be 2 different forms of measurement. For my argument, I'll be using the best overall player approach with a bit of stat comparisons. Lets look at the current stat lines, per game:
Tyreke: 20.0 Pts, 5.8 Ast, 5.3 Reb Steph: 16.8 Pts , 5.8 Ast, 4.2 Reb
EDIT: Adding Curry's #'s w/o Monta, just a quick summary of 17 games: 22.2 PPG, 8 Apg, 5.5 Reb

via i.cdn.turner.com
These are the primary and simplest measures of a players production, from comparing these two, I'd say Tyreke clearly is the slightly better player.
Now lets look @ a few more stats, a little more in depth.
45.8 FG%, 43.0 3P%, 88 FT%, 35.8 MPG
45.5 FG%, 26.5 3P%, 74 FT%, 37.4 MPG
Who's better?
The top represents Steph percentages through out the year, while the bottom is Tyreke's. I'd say this clearly goes to Steph in that he's been much more efficient. Then we look a bit deeper, it gets even better for him.
Steph has taken 1046 FG's compares to Tyreke's 1095 FG's.
Steph has taken 349 3's compared to Tyrekes's 136
Steph has taken 172 FT's compared to Tyreke's 442 Steph has played 75 games, compared to Tyreke's 68
This is my counter to peoples perception that the Warriors "Pace of Game", inflates Curry's stats. Even though he's played 7 more games thus far through the season, Steph has LESS shots. It's a coincidence that the percentage of 3's made by Steph compared to Tyreke, is EXACTLY the same percentage of FT's made by Tyreke compared to Steph.
What this says to me is that Tyreke's differential to Steph in PPG's is really a matter of taking easier shots. That is regular FG's and FT's. Not to discredit Reke for being able to get to the line like he does, we all know that it's a great ability to have. (A-la-Maggette)
Now lets get to players in "real time". Currently, I averaged month to month stats since the turn of the new year.
Tyreke: 20.1 PPG, 6.5 Ast, 5.4 Reb
Curry: 20.1 PPG, 7.0 Ast, 4.7 Reb
(Not counting April where Curry has clearly had the advantage 23.7 PPG, 8.7 Ast, 4.3 Reb compared to Tryeke's 14.0 PPG, 6 Ast, 7 Reb)
Tyreke has had 30+ ppg 3 times this season, while Curry has done it 7 times, all since December.
Tyrekes has had 10+ apg 7 times this season, Curry has done it 8 times, all since December.
This makes the ROY race much, much closer if you look at who the better player is right now. And if current trends continue, Curry is improving month to month, while Tyreke's play seems pretty steady and seems to be "All you see is all you get" type.
Lastly I want to point the intangibles of each players situation. Curry has played with Monta (25.5 ppg) and Corey (20.2 ppg) most of the season, league wide the 6th and 16th best PPG in the league. Tyreke hasn't had another 20 ppg player to contend with all season, aside from the 22 games w/ K.Martin(19.8 ppg) who struggled with injuries, and Carly Landry who just came aboard averaging 18 ppg. The only consistent King he's had to compete with for points is Beno Udrih @ 12.9 ppg. This also effects each player current PER ratings, as Curry has had to content with much better "performers" on a his team that Tyreke, and PER is a per minute productivity measure.
In summation, I think the ROY of the year race should be MUCH closer than most people anticipated. I agree that Tyreke is def deserving in the comparison of their whole body of work to this point, however I think Curry has made a great argument as to why he deserves this as much as any Rookie in the league.
Taking into consideration the "What have you done for me lately" approach to the ROY voting, I think Curry takes the slight edge over Tyreke.

I'd like to hear some Kings fans perspective to this, and what the rest of GSoM thinks? Lets Go Warriors!
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Would we go after T-Mac? Does he even fit?
Hypothetically speaking, it's not out of the realm of possibility that we may make a play for T-Mac. I'm not one for various random trade posts a-la-Solutions over there. But I wanted to gauge what our communities position would be on trying to bring in T-Mac, not because I think it's a good Idea(nor a bad one), but rather because I think the FO is looking at all options.
And he could immediately do a few things for the franchise, here's they way I look at it.
Any negotiations for T-Mac would need to include a few players as we're looking @ $23 Mil+.
So we could ideally package up Rad Man($6.5 thru 2011), Speedy ($5 mil Exp), Raja ($5 mil Exp), and the icing is Magg's $10+ Contract over the next few years would be off our books.
So that's about $26.5 Mil going out, T-Mac would be $23.5. That would leave about $3 mil...this is what would make the deal for me. If we could get Carl Landry's $3 Mil in this I would be ecstatic. I don't think Houston would be to inclined to make this deal though, however I think Scola's contract is up this year, and they're going to have give him a nice offer to keep him, not to mention Yao would be coming back. So play time could be cut for Landry and he may walk.
If not, some pieces like Dorsey and Mensah-Bonsu may be added.
I think the FO would go for this since we get out from under Magg's Contract, while keep Salary relief w/ T-Mac's Exp contract and a HUGE boost in ticket sales/attendance with such a big name coming in. Not to mention the potential he would bring if he could be at 80% of the player that he was.
What do you guys think? Would it benefit us in any way?
Cohan for Governor! Who's with me?
I think Chris Cohan has shown through his 16 year tenure with the GSW that he is not only adept, but IDEAL in playing a pivotal political role in our society today. Who else would be able to fill the shoes of the Governator? I mean who else would be best suited to step into a field they know diddly squat about and be able to ACT like they know WTF he's doing, while running the show into the ground?
The Warriors FO was right, Randolph is going to be a "Special" player in this league, just not w/ the god forsaken Warriors!!!! Of course not, as Cohan and Rowell sit there in panic mode and put up the ENTIRE squad on the trade block, they'll more than happily sacrifice the future of OUR team, for a few quick ticket sales and some (much needed) revenue for Cohan.
What an about face, huh? At the beginning of the year the FO said they had "big plans" in store mentioning the acquisition of "Beef" up front and what do we get? Devean "Who the F*** Cares" George and Mikki "Feed me"Moore. WAY TO GO guys! It's not the players faults, they'll take the contract they can get and put in as much effort as they want.(See S.Jackson Extension) But like any good politician, you over promise and under achieve. At least your sticking to the stereo type you bastards.
But.....
Then they turn into the "Rebuilding" mode and state that we're working around the young core of players in Randolph, Curry, Morrow....remember, with no mention of Monta at first....and Now what? The ENTIRE squad is on the trading block? ARE YOU F'n KIDDING ME?
I guess the Christmas season applies to discounted Warrior players also? HURRY, HURRY, 50% off on all young talent! Not only that, but we honor ALL Coupons, yep, ANY expiring contract you can throw our way, we'll give you twice the value! How could you pass up that deal?
Randolph is not living up to the hype huh? That's where we're at? At 22 MPG, 11 pts, 7 Reb is pretty damn good if you ask me. I think we all forget the kid is only 20 years old! As I had posted prior to the season if Randolph could come in somewhere near 15pts 8 Rebs a game , while STARTING I would have been happy. This isn't that for off considering Min.
And in watching the games, it's true he's taking some Maggette/Baron/Jackson like bad shots, early in the shot clock, but his all around game is still unmatched by ANY Warrior big IMO. As for his Attitude problem that I've been hearing about. Isn't it a coincedence that damn near EVERY player has been rubbed the wrong way by the FO? So who's the real problem there, huh?
Everyone of our players has had their faults. Monta is a turnover MACHINE, Morrow can't create for himself, Maggette is a black whole who has a memory span of about 10 seconds because he can't remember that he can't hit 3's.
I know some of you agree with me, some don't. Each one of us has the "cure" for the Team in our own minds. But I think realistically we have to admit at this point there is nothing we can do. We have been and ARE the laughing stock of the entire league, while our talent should have been the focal point of our look to the future, it will now be the reason we have to sell low on our players. Just a few days ago, ESPN's article about the chance to make the playoffs listed us at 0.05%, like we didn't know that all ready, but they also listed which teams have a future, we were 2nd to last, even with all of out "talent", primarily because of the font office, now SI ran a story about being the Worst Franchise of the DECADE!
You never know, we may put together a package and bring in someone that will have GSoM buzzing again, a Bosh, a Gay, a Boozer, whoever. But realistically, we know we have to over pay with talent, and that is ruining the future of this squad, after all, once that player gets here, I'll take odds on how long the FO and Nelly will take to make some stupid comment about them and piss them off.
I don't believe in Karma, so I'll be the first to say that I wouldn't care the slightest if lighting came and struck down Chris Cohan. Like any other politician, or corporate CEO, what he or his organization says should be taken with a grain of salt. The Warriors are in this for the money, what little they can get, if WE BELIEVE that they have any interest in the fans and our views of hopelessness, then we have fallen into their grand scheme of things. Not that it's any different from any other organization, but at least their better at deceiving us by putting togethr some resemblence of an attempt at winning.
Sorry my rant was so long, I love the Warriors to the point that writing this makes me angry, and I hope like all of you that this ship gets turned around soon, however I think it'll be best to call a mutiny, make the Captain walk the plank, burn it,sink it and build a new one.
Was Griffin on the cover of the new Madden?
Because he definitely qualifies w/ his busted kneecap. They say it could could take up to six weeks, but like back injuries, knee injuries can linger for quite some time, thats if they ever go away of course.
Not that I wish injury on anyone....let me rephrase this. Not that I wish injuries on the specifically Griffin or the Clippers, but this definitely hurts the chances of them in the Pacific. Do you guys think,in a screwed up way, this ends up opening up a little for the Dubs?
Not to mention the ROY competition just got a little more like " 3 Fly's Up"
Here's the link....
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=4597949
Sad for the Clippers that the curse is alive and well.
Steph's Summer League performance
The Anthony's have torn it up during Summer League and I'm def excited to see what they add to the young Dubs squad during the season. But I think we're all a little underwhelmed by Stephs play during the last few games. But today, one thing stood out to me that was writtin in a True Hoops story.
At the conclusion of the Warriors/Hornets game, a crowd of kids gathers to try and get an autograph from Morrow. Morrow finishes with media and throws his jersey into the throng of kids, only to have them lunge at it and break the security barricade fighting for it. A younger fan desperately clutches the jersey while another fan struggles to rip it away from him.
While this scene is unfolding, I am interviewing Steph Curry and the two of us stop to watch what's going on. We are both a little unsure of what to do to comfort the boy who is about to cry. Curry then stops the interview, goes over and gives the boy who lost out on the jersey his game-worn shoe.
Now I know this doesn't count for Points/Stats/ Or Wins when it's all said and done. Which is how he'll be measured by us the fans in the long haul. But in hearing Curry speak to the media and seeing the type of leadership and character he brings to the team. I have to say it's refreshing to feel like we have something that will, in time, develop into what this and every team needs. Players that care about they fans of the sport, and the people who support them. Aside from the required "NBA Cares" commercials.
So though some of you may be disappointed in his debut performance, we should all realize that along w/ the performances that AR and Ammo have put together, Steph's should also be taking w/ a grain of salt. He's young, new and brings a good energy to the squad.
So I hope that if nothing else, he follows in the line of fan favorite Warriors like JR and Adonal. Guys who give it all because they KNOW we care.
Here's the link to the rest of it....
http://myespn.go.com/blogs/truehoop/0-42-88/Anthony-Bests-Anthony.html
Does Amar'e think we're mediocre?
So ESPN recently asked Amare some questions regarding his future w/ the Suns. I'm not sure how to read the comments, as he spoke about a "mediocre team", and I hope he's not talking about the Dubs.
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A different angle perhaps? How about the FA pool?
So we're all buzzing off the the Amar'e possibility. But seems like that Suns are butt hurt that we got Stephen Curry @ #7 and the deal could be losing it's legs. No indication the Warriors would go this way, but what if they look to add that "beef" through Free Agency?
It just feels like something big is gonna go down....doesn't it?
With all the rumors swirling from Baron being offered up to us constantly, and the fact that the Warriors are taking some hard looks at swing players, even though we've been stacked at that position for quite a while, do any of you GSoMer's get the feeling that we gonna be picking in the mid-late first round instead?
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RealGM:Nellie thinks we're set, Baron offered from Clips...
First off, here's the link...
http://www.realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/57381/20090219/warriors_will_stand_pat/#
What do you guys think? With Randolphs recent insert into our rotation after Biendrins went down, I think the kid has shown that he could play? I've been a big proponent of our most recent 1st rounder, and I think with a little smoothing of the edges, we could have something special.
As for the BD to the Bay article, I'm not sure what it would take. But if it could comprise of some smalls, and maintain most of our bigs, I don't see why we would do that. Cap allowing of course. The interesting thing is that the Clips have a surplus of bigs at this point, so I'm not sure they'd be seekin that in return. This could be interesting.
What impact does you believe this will have on the West?
With a current lineup of as follows:
1. Crawford
2.Morrow/Buike
3.Jacks
4.Magg
5.Andris
This is in my opinion the most "Realistic" liineup for our squad to put on the court as soon as we get Jamal in Uni. Since Monta's wrapped up and place under our Christmas tree until we can unwrap him in late December(if that early), how do you feel about the new look Dubs?
In reading Hollinger's analysis on ESPN, this caught my attention and got me thinking....
"So in a nutshell, the Warriors improved their present without severely impacting their future, while the Knicks improved their future without severely impacting their present. All the attention will be on the latter aspect because of the implications for the Great LeBron Sweepstakes. But don't underestimate the former -- the path to a spot in the West's top eight just got measurably tougher, so fans in places like Dallas and Denver should care about this trade just as much as those in Cleveland."
link..http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/columns/story?columnist=hollinger_john&page=Perdiem-081121
When Monta comes home and we get to put a squad consisting of 4, YES...count'em....4.....20 PPG Scoreres, how well are our chances of seeing the playoffs this year?
I'm starting to like this deal more and more the day goes on!!!!
What do you guys think?
Let the trade talks begin....Reported Al for Curry trade.
Real GM says that Donnie Walsh is once again lookin to pick up Al Harrington to play in D'Antoni's system. Looks like the Knicks wanna give up Curry, but the spurs want to get in on the deal and have Curry go their way, so they might give up a piece to the Warriors...but who?
The Dubs want David Lee, straight up.
This sounds feasible for us, hope to see something develop sooner rather than later. What do you guys think?
Here's the Link...
This goes out to all the GSoM Ladies...maybe some of you guys too!
Saw an interesting post on Real GM, thought some of you may like it, and to tell you the truth, I hope I never see these guys like this again this season, cuz it'll be on the sideline next to Monta during game time. LOL..
Tony, you might enjoy some of these too as it's a look we don't see to often. Maybe you could go a little Good Fellas with these pics, or some GQ type stuff...haha.
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Warriors Talking about Tinsley w/ Pacers....
Well, to be honest, I thought the Pacers were done talking with the Warriors for a while after our last trade...And it's funny they're lookin to at Al back. But I think this does help both teams, Tinsley is a problem in Indiana, much like Jackson became, I can only hope if this were to come to terms, he would have the same resurrection Jackson had when heading to the Town.
What do you guys think about this one...Tinsley is a good point when healthy, and not a distraction, but is he worth it?
Link..
http://www.realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/54291/20080905/warriors_and_pacers_talking_about_tinsley/
EDIT: In addition, it says the Pacers would be trying to include Daniels, and the W's would have to include another 2 Mil worth. After using the Trade Checker, Al + Kosta for Tinsley and Daniels would work. But do we want another surplus of Guards again? Al is one of the only shooting(streaky of course) bigs that we have, Nelly revolves alot of his system around this type of player, though Al hasn't panned out as well, can we afford to let him go?
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THIS is the last straw!!! I officailly HATE Baron Davis
Now...I know it was a business decision, I know your an LA Kid. But if there's one thing I had more that the LA Lakers and the LA Clippers in General, it's this.....
http://www.nba.com/clippers/photogallery/bdavis_lad_080730_1.html?rss=true
This adds insult to injury in my book, and I KNOW some of you really won't mind but this, THIS....this is too much. I officially RENOUCE Baron Davis! I wasn't going to boo you, I wasn't going to knock what you did for you what did to Dubs Franchise, I would have even applauded you when you came to the Bay. BUT NOW, now it's ON. Thats TWO of my teams you've dissed now....and I can't takes no more!
It's OVER!
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You keep asking "WHY?" Well....Here's WHY!
Now, I'm not trying to knock any GSoMer's on here, but I keep hearing people questioning every move we have made this off season, and keep saying this guy or that guy is a horrible acquisition, but I just don't see your reasoning? Don't get me wrong, I love my Dub's and like most homers I get attached to the players. You root for guys like Barnes with his career on the brink of extinction, who all of a sudden resurrects himself to help the Dubs end the 13 year drought, or Azubuike who makes a name for himself in the D-League only to step up in the absence of our beloved J-Rich and become another fan favorite, Pietrus, the crazy/funny Frenchy who we drafted and came w// the hopes of "Air France", I'm not even going to get into the whole Baron debacle.
But here's the bottom line....Baron bolted for the Clips(I don't care who's fault it was),Pietrus wanted a bigger role and signed w/ the Magic, Barnes barely made the rotation last year and is now a Sun, and Azubuike will be joining Baron the LaLa Land.
Aside from Baron, the impact the rest of these guys had on the squad was minimal. Pietrus did a great job trying to become a 4 and rebound/defend for us, Buike did great as a starter for a short while, but just couldn't put it together consistently off the bench(Yeah, we know he was injured, it showed in his lack of hops/mobility), and Barnes, well, he just kind of fell off.
So I want to address all of you who have asked "Why?" This guy or that guy, and how I've heard some say " I don't see how he fits?" I've put together my scouting reports on these guys and compared them to a need for the Warriors or a deficiency that they fill.
Mags: This guys is the NBA equivalent of an up the middle running back, he just gets there. His ability to get to the rim, get fouled and get points from the stripe at 81% is something the Warriors have lacked for a few years now. How many of us sat there and got increasingly frustrated when we would keep throwing up 3's or settling for jumpers when we had a diminishing lead or the opposing team had a big name shot blocker in the paint? Not to mention he shot 45% from the field and 39% from long range last year? This guys 22 ppg will dramatically lessen the loss of Baron points. GREAT pick up, and adds a dimension the Warriors have lacked for quite some time.
Ronny: Lets see, he's described everywhere as a "High Energy" guy who comes off the bench to Rebound, Block Shots, and provide some good Hustle and Defense? Yet some say they don't know why we would pick him up? THIS is a combination of EVERYTHING the Warriors lacked last year. People feel we needed a Low-Post scorer, which on some teams would be essential, but with Nellie Ball, the rock wouldn't slow down enough to get to the post that often. So instead, we pick up another good big, in the mold of Biendrins who can bang with the low-post scorers that dominated us down low in the paint through out last season. At 6'10", 250 Lbs, he's not the "Ideal" 5 spot for teams, but in Nellie's Run-Gun style, you betcha he is.(Don't forget he can hit a 18-19 footer pretty consistently) Another great fit for the team.
Marcus Williams: Ok..coming out of college, everyone had him pegged as the best "Pure PG" in the draft. He hasn't panned out for the Nets. Don't get it twisted, he is NOT J-Kidd. Kidd plays at a whole different pace than we do, the Nets were molded around him. For a young, highly touted PG to fill those shoes? It's a ton of pressure. Watchin him @ UConn, the kid CAN play, he excelled in the open floor, he's got great court vision and handles, he has struggled in the half court set when trying to create a little too much for himself, he would be better suited on a team that can get up and down quickly so he can emphasize his strong points...Oh!...Wait! A team JUST like ours!! This is a gamble, but just like Mike DunNothin was NOT a good fit for our squad, now he's got Indy fans eating out of the palm of his hands, I'm sure the Warriors are hoping he'll be a product of his environment and develop into the PG he was supposed to be. (Oh..he's a 38% 3pt shooter also) So another good move that spells Monta(Yes he'll be a backup) at the 1 spot.
Mo Evans: Why O' Why didn't we just keep Azubuike??? Well, we don't know if we will or not, you can speculate we won't match because of this signing. But either way, it doesn't take away from Evans being a good(cheap) pickup. The guy can play in this league, he's proven it. He's got good D, he's a good athletic scorer w/ hops, can hit the 3 well, his knocks are his handles, so he's better suited for a 3 than a 2, but is under sized for that position on most teams...but NOT Nellie Ball. His game does remind me allot of Azubuike's but his 48%(+4%) from the floor and 39%(+3%) from 3pt land are BETTER than Kelenna's stats last year AND he's cheaper! How is this not a good pick up??
Update: Great to see Azubuike back, a little more expensive than Evans, but good to see the organization bring back a fan favorite.
I know we all root for our guys, and get attached, but people, this is a business, I would be all for beating down Mulson's door if they were just playing pick-up sticks with our roster after Baron bailed, BUT if you take a step back, count to 10 and rub your ear lobes while saying "OOOOSSSSAAA", you'll see that we're adding key pieces that do indeed fit our play style, and in fact, one can argue that the players we picked up, will see a significant improvement to they're production and numbers, while the guys that have decided to bail, will almost certainly see a drop, so goes Nellie Ball
We'll see during the season how things play out, but I believe the subtraction of Baron has jaded some of us, while other have noticed that the sum of the pieces which we have been added have essentially replaced what we'd be missing.
Keep Believing GSoMer's....it's what's gotten us this far in the first place.
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Homegrown? What about Eddie House?
Well, according to ESPN Insider, Eddies got a few offers on the table, and all the Celts want to give him is the league minimum @ 1 year, so he looks to be headin out. What do you guys think about the possibilites of pickin him up as the back up PG?
I grew up in Hayward and played him in some pick ups a couple times, the dude can shoot the lights out, and considering we're looking to have Belinelli and Jax handle the ball more often, a good scoring PG might not be a bad idea...and he has one of the lowest turnover ratios in the league...
Just seeing what the GSOM'ers think....I don't know if he'd be what we need?
Just watched Brands Interivew on ESPN.com...
And something I caught kinda made me double take...when he mentioned how the Warriors had offered the most money, and how Golden State was "Working on some things to get that team over the top..." THIS makes me feel good about the organization...Elton pretty much new the Warriors are trying to become that contending team, but he felt he had a better shot in Philly, considering they just made a good stand in the playoffs, not to mention it's MUCH easier in the East.
He goes on to say that Baron even encouraged him to join GS when they offered the most money, and he thanked Golden State for such a great offer..blah blah blah..Sounds to me like they let him on some of the idea's they had to shape the squad sans Baron, and it make me feel good to hear it coming from someone outside of the organization.
So far, I think we all felt Maggette was overpaid, though as I'm reading from most "insiders" and "anaylsts" they say that the price was pretty reasonable for him, now with Turiaf hopefully signing, I've check out Laker blogs/boards and the consensus is that he'll be a player the team will miss dearly, and he was the spark from they're bench more often that not.
Now, I know were not done, rumors about Al being shopped around(Thanks Pree) and a bunch of FA PG's out there, not to mention the cap space we have, we seem to be waiting for the next "Breaking News" report, but how well do you guys think Mully n Crew have handled this offseason so far?
Monta for $11 Mil a year....
According to RealGM.com and Janny Hu.
Of course it's not final, but I think we almost have to go that high to keep a player of his caliber/potential. I'm ok with it. Hopefully this while not put a kink in what we can offer Beans. I think we definitley need to keep this young core together.
What do you guys think?
Here's the link:
http://www.realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/53476/20080709/monta_to_average_$11m_a_year/
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